The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:07 pm Why does everyone hate me in this game.

Awwwh so cuteeee we're just teasing u coz we love youuuuuuu

Fuck your toxic love.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:05 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:03 pm Oh i remember doom saying itt she thinks im chastity. Is this why kate lust went after me? Probably right. We'll see from flip

I think you're chastity too cuz you're a prude.

Ive never had a partner nor a kiss so honestly true

So you didn't date Alexa Bliss in high school? Ha what a loser.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:04 pm Actually no fuck that. Let's blame Mac when he miselims Porscha with 9 people sheeping but when Mac outs info that helps Seanzie lock his solve in place Seanzie did it single handedly and Mac is sus.

Far out man. Far out. Imma go on tilt lol.

Its okiii maccie pattt pattt

Just relaxxx, breatheee, and let seanzie carry us all

Seanzie is a noob who sussed me for correctly townreading him and needed my info to solve 2 of the sins who telegraphed their alignment to him. Stop hoisting him on his petard pockety pockerson.

Why does everyone hate me in this game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:04 pm Actually no fuck that. Let's blame Mac when he miselims Porscha with 9 people sheeping but when Mac outs info that helps Seanzie lock his solve in place Seanzie did it single handedly and Mac is sus.

Far out man. Far out. Imma go on tilt lol.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:03 pm Oh i remember doom saying itt she thinks im chastity. Is this why kate lust went after me? Probably right. We'll see from flip

I think you're chastity too cuz you're a prude.

Actually no fuck that. Let's blame Mac when he miselims Porscha with 9 people sheeping but when Mac outs info that helps Seanzie lock his solve in place Seanzie did it single handedly and Mac is sus.

Far out man. Far out. Imma go on tilt lol.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:53 pm This is what happened.

I woke up at fuck oclock and saw a ping to sub my action. 3am taking a piss Mac subbed Kate and went back to sleep.

I wanted to track someone who otherwise doesn't self resolve and had the potential to be a deep wolf. That's all. Thank me by sussing me tho that'll help lol.

Don't get me wrong, you're playing fine but seanzie single handedly got me.

I'm not trying to take credit for it I'm just defending myself.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:59 pm This is my town

Dubz
Jack
Zenon
Tutuu (maybe JD but not a sin imo)
Falc
Seanzie
SVS

Everyone else is fair game imo.

Forgot Michelle. I think she's town.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:58 pm

So typical for you to be lust given your obsession with sending nudes

This is my town

Dubz
Jack
Zenon
Tutuu (maybe JD but not a sin imo)
Falc
Seanzie
SVS

Everyone else is fair game imo.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:54 pm Thunal is playing like John Doe and is my prime suspect for John Doe.

Maybe

Doom was one of the only if not only voice suspecting thunal d1 at least from my memory

Thunal is playing clean and I won't be able to prosecute her beyond feels bad but I just want her solved by mech or something.

Tutuu is either town or exactly John Doe.

Thunal is playing like John Doe and is my prime suspect for John Doe.

This is what happened.

I woke up at fuck oclock and saw a ping to sub my action. 3am taking a piss Mac subbed Kate and went back to sleep.

I wanted to track someone who otherwise doesn't self resolve and had the potential to be a deep wolf. That's all. Thank me by sussing me tho that'll help lol.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:46 pm Kate had me fooled too.

Except my lizard brain in the middle of the night wasn't so fooled.

I dont believe u are town tracker who tracked his top townread n1 but i guess there might be worlds where ur still town and theres more neighborhood chats and what not and i shouldnt say anything. But im also paranoid of the worlds where ur a sin so thats why i just want it voiced

I am town tracker and Kate wasn't my top townread.

If I am a fellow sin why in the world would I out two of them abruptly? Lmao fuck me I can't win in this game.

I'm insanely surprised they just both went belly up immediately though.

Kate had me fooled too.

Except my lizard brain in the middle of the night wasn't so fooled.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:40 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:18 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:13 pm That's OK we can tunnel my scum reads and see if tutuu gets nked in the mean time!

if mac flips scum im never getting nked coz i defended him. i might get chopped. rip me

if he flips town there's still hope i eat it

also i might just be poisoned i dunno (some dude sent me a pic of my avatar and told me im gonna die last night as i claimed at my sod post for those who didnt read / forgot and were gonna ask me why so i preemmptively answered ur question ur welcome)

There's still time for you to flip your read and pick up a nk tbh

cuz I'm him

The speed Thunal whipped around to having a genuine argument to vote Kate after sheeping her was wackistan.

I don't trust Thunal either fwiw.

John thought I was a miselim and now he gonna NK me.

Sucks to suck John.

I wonder if town somehow convert sins though. That would be preferable lol.

Role madness baby

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:44 pm I tracked Kate to Dennis n1. I'm an odd night tracker.

Okay, I thought so.

I am 100% sure Kate is Lust and 95% sure Dennis is Greed. The Kate thing is mech, the dennis thing is based off something Kate told me in a btsc I have with her. In particular, Kate told me she targeted Greed and got BTSC with them, but didn't tell me who greed was, but I had suspicion it was Dennis.

Let's goooo

I just didn't super like Kate's answer to their Dennis read in light of her targeting him n1 and given I'm odd night and widely scumread there's not much point keeping that info to myself.

I checked it was ok to claim.

I tracked Kate to Dennis n1. I'm an odd night tracker.

I think Kate and Dennis have w/w equity

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:40 pm Matahari looks like an obvious mafia to me. 5 post ISO that's easy to read. Looks pretty obviously not town.

Wolfy entrance post making wolfy guilty excuses for not posting much.
Solving through a forced dichotomy of Tutuu/Michelle/Doom based on nothing except they're wagons ie. opportunism.
No attempt to town. Naked vote on Tutuu.

Chance of being town. Low.
In a role madness game day 1 chop we could do worse than to just chop Matahari.

@Michelle just want to point this out cuz you sussed me for ignoring someone's push on Matahari. This was day 1 but I still have no qualms flipping Matahari and will demonstrate that assertively if given the chance.

I think it's worry. I feel like you worry fairly obviously as town and I dont think I've seen you transmit worry as much or at all as mafia.

Yeah my bad.

@Dennis what's your mum read.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:40 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:37 pm I believed myself to literally bet my entire mafia "career" on my read and I caved anyways.

So surely I'm allowed to be a brooding whiny bitch about myself. That's about myself but you.

But I'm not trying to piss you off I want to play mafia without feeling like every time I approach you I have to walk delicately across a sea of unhatched eggs or be the murderer of 1000 baby duckies

I'm not asking for you to do that I'm asking for you to stop replying to every post I make dunking on me because I can't solve that way and it leads to this.

I'm not dunking on you. Well maybe once. But for the most part I just want to fucking work with you Mac your literally my fucking idol in this stupid game ffs.

But I'm not the player that's going to like stop trying to move votes

You're one of my besties in mafia and I'd never try to upset you on purpose k.

I don't want to work with you today. I want you to have reads and engage with other people. I want you to find your own reads and lead. I don't want you to have to come to a point where you have two townreads wagoned and have to vote one begrudgingly. And I don't want you to react to my play. This isn't cuz I hate you or whatever. It's because we are tilting each other and it's choking the gamestate.

Optimally yesterday's Porscha c/w would have been your top wolf. Let's try to make today's wagons Mac and Zenon's top wolfread. Or preferably our top wolfreads. And see where we get to.

I have your list. I won't run up a townread of yours.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:18 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:59 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:43 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:40 am

Idc you're still town

Wanna mason?

Heck yeah let's kill mac and/or Sean

Okay which one?

I'm on mac rn but I'm not picky

Pretty sure Sean is town so you're batting 000.

Why am I town? I've been extremely underwhelming (even though I did have a good reason for D1)

How many times do I have to be right about townreading you before you stop asking me this question?

I feel like you have a different energy as mafia to town and you posting lots and trying isnt a requirement to me feeling it.

I'll elaborate more later if you insist but I wish you'd just accept being townread for once.

I'll be back later to read through no doubt many more tilting posts of people calling me emotionally abusive and emotionally inept in poorly coded language. I so look forward to that.

Quite literally the only way I can navigate you is to either stop posting or just agree with you. I even tried that by getting you to give me a list of names I can't suspect but you didn't even put Rondo or Epi on that list and had already been defending them from me!

I literally just can't win with you.

I would gladly just do nothing day 2 and let you have a shot given I had my shot and missed day 1 BUT I AM TOP SUSPECT AND YOU VOTED ME.

It would be completely horrible for me to just go belly up and let town miselim me after I caused a miselim day 1.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:46 pm Actually the real conclusion is Mac is town or we are both wolves but meh

Or I'm getting toyed with like that other game ib just played where a wolf made me genuinely feel bad about my play and abused my emotions. But since I do not think Mac would do that I'm locking him town for eternity so move.

This is so unfair. I am not abusing your emotions at all. I am trying hard to juggle my own volatility while achieving a reasonable outcome for both of us while not upsetting you. It's just too hard.

That's fine.

Please stop swearing at me.

I want to solve the game and ask people questions. Explain myself and make reads.

Every time I do this you have interjected to "playfully" dunk on me.

It isn't working for me.

So either I just give up and go belly up or try to resolve that.

I initially tried to resolve it by asking you to elaborate on reads, which is already hard because your choices put me immediately on tilt, but when your answers don't satisfy me and I tell you then YOU go on tilt.

So that doesn't work for me either.

So next stop is trying to get you to let me play the game without you interjecting. I just woke up so the game has had 8 hrs of not Mac at least. I think asking for some space to play for a but isn't that harsh.

But that tilts you also.

I have things to do this morning so I'm going to leave again now. But I'd very much like some time to just play the mafia game the way I need to before eod.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:32 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:04 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:55 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:25 pm You think the only way town can win is with Mac playing?

No, i think if he gets mischopped ppl will point fingers at the ppl pushing him and theyre almost all town and the third mischop is lined up. Hes only getting scumread coz he was wrong on porscha. If he flips the same alignment as her i dont think its logical for people to change their approach / logic halfway midgame and forgive his choppers

But that would be the case with any misyeet, though. This happens in like every game and town wins quite often.

In any case I knew you are going to defend him regardless, so have fun. I just think that argument could be applied to anyone, not just Mac. And it happens all the time. Maybe people want to resolve his slot.

Weren't you townreading me?

I was. Maybe still am. I repeated Tutuus terminology about *mis* yeeting. I also have some issues with you. I posted about it this AM. just becasue I think you're possibly town doesn't mean I think everything you say or do is right.

it may not sound like it, but I really respect you as a player. But when you aggressively lead a misyeet on someone, you could try showing a little humility, instead of insisting anyone suspecting you is bad.

I haven't done that? I literally said most of them are town?

Part of what is bothering me is people keep saying I'm doing things I didn't.

I didn't tunnel Porscha. Making a wrong case isn't tunneling. Responding to everything someone says confbiasing it as wolfy is tunneling.

And I haven't insisted everyone suspecting me is bad.

And yet here you are saying I said you tunnelled Porscha when I didn't say that.

I'm going to dinner, have a happy party parrot.

No I didn't. Come on!

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:37 pm I believed myself to literally bet my entire mafia "career" on my read and I caved anyways.

So surely I'm allowed to be a brooding whiny bitch about myself. That's about myself but you.

But I'm not trying to piss you off I want to play mafia without feeling like every time I approach you I have to walk delicately across a sea of unhatched eggs or be the murderer of 1000 baby duckies

I'm not asking for you to do that I'm asking for you to stop replying to every post I make dunking on me because I can't solve that way and it leads to this.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:33 pm I wanted to work with you on porscha it felt literally fucking impossible

I tried to engage you it felt like what I said didn't matter and eventually you essentially told me to fmpov shut up and leave the thread.

I didn't want to shut up and leave the thread I wanted to show you why you were wrong but nothing I said was going to convince you and eventually I did what I do every fucking mafia game and caved.

The correct answer is have your read, vote elsewhere, let me have mine and vote where I want and agree to disagree.

Your attempts to persuade me were ineffective because I was confident and your reasoning was articulated like "sure but this is also what Porscha as town looks like sometimes" which simply didn't persuade me.

There's not much to gain from rehashing this. I wasn't tunneling and I specifically tried to get you to just trust your own read like I was playing your conscience and prosecuting my own read. It's not easy trying to play chess with myself.

To say I haven't shown humility about the miselim is also wrong. I'm being respectful to the town and the game by not letting it disaffect my desire to solve it and I refuse to play it that way. So I haven't self flagellated and postured about how very sorry I am.

Well I'm not. I stand by my process and it turned out wrong. That's mafia and I refuse to feel bad about being wrong. It's okay to be wrong in a mafia game.

I'm just trying to keep everyone accountable for telling the truth while I'm top wagon and being pushed like this. That's the minimum responsibility as a town being wrongly accused.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:04 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:03 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:55 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:25 pm You think the only way town can win is with Mac playing?

No, i think if he gets mischopped ppl will point fingers at the ppl pushing him and theyre almost all town and the third mischop is lined up. Hes only getting scumread coz he was wrong on porscha. If he flips the same alignment as her i dont think its logical for people to change their approach / logic halfway midgame and forgive his choppers

But that would be the case with any misyeet, though. This happens in like every game and town wins quite often.

In any case I knew you are going to defend him regardless, so have fun. I just think that argument could be applied to anyone, not just Mac. And it happens all the time. Maybe people want to resolve his slot.

Weren't you townreading me?

I was. Maybe still am. I repeated Tutuus terminology about *mis* yeeting. I also have some issues with you. I posted about it this AM. just becasue I think you're possibly town doesn't mean I think everything you say or do is right.

it may not sound like it, but I really respect you as a player. But when you aggressively lead a misyeet on someone, you could try showing a little humility, instead of insisting anyone suspecting you is bad.

I haven't done that? I literally said most of them are town?

Part of what is bothering me is people keep saying I'm doing things I didn't.

I didn't tunnel Porscha. Making a wrong case isn't tunneling. Responding to everything someone says confbiasing it as wolfy is tunneling.

And I haven't insisted everyone suspecting me is bad.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm I'm info dumping because I don't want to fucking play this game anymore

It bothers me that I upset you but with all due respect you tilted me and I asked you to stop and I've crossed no lines in the context of a mafia game. I asked you yesterday to stop posting to let the game breathe and you refused and I asked you today to stop engaging me because you're overwhelming me by dismissing all my attempts to solve with one liner hot takes and showing no interest to "explore".

Like you're claiming you want to solve the game and explore it or whatever but instead of asking me to elaborate and showing me a different perspective you have been blunt and dismissive to me while also treating my slot in a weird way which has put doubt in my mind about whether I can even trust you anymore.

I don't go into mafia games with the intent to hurt or be cruel so I apologise if I've come off that way.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:23 pm Oh BTW assuming DubZ likes gifts you should speak to her she's got trips voting power.

Toodles

You aren't allowed to out info like this in this game.

@Kate what is your Dennis read

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:22 pm I'm not engaging you anymore go solve the game

Okay

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine