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by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:53 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I am glad you're back Tutuu even though I now must destroy you
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:48 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I miss you @Baudib1
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:46 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

@DrWilgy
@Seanzie
@falcon45ca
@Jackofhearts2005
@Creature
@sig

If you had a bullet who would you kill? If you had a vest, who would you shield?
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:55 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Btw

Temperance - Balance, Moderation, Patience, Purpose. If the player who draws this card chooses to play it, a number of living civilians equal to the number of living mafia members will be randomly chosen. The posts made by each during the following day phase will be added up and compared. If the totals are balanced within 5 posts of each other, the player who drew the Temperance card will be granted one alignment check. If they are not in balance within 5 posts of each other, the player will only be told how many total players were tallied. As this card has no useful purpose for the mafia, if a mafia member draws it, their night kill becomes a strongman kill for the following night.

Town should probably try to coordinate to ensure this card is playable moving forward.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:34 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Anyway I hate mafia and quit.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:33 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Ever open an ISO and read it and be like "damn this is mafia/town" and start making a wall post and just... not want to do it anymore.

I just did that with Seanzie's ISO, which is just scummy as fuck.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:28 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:52 pm
Neon wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:44 pm Alison/Mac/Bau woofie woofers
Neon is pocketing me, and I kinda like it.




It's not nearly as bright as you might expect
I think this is mafia Falcon.
Going back to this, my read here at the time was Falcon mafia because I felt like Neon had just scumread three town in a way that felt like a town being wrong and Falcon's reply here feels like how a mafia replies to a town they know is wrong. It's a thought that a town should never have in reply to that post imo.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:18 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Voting with SPF til end of day.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:16 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Congratulations wolves you have defeated me.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:16 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I have decided to townread Jack for bad reasons.

I still think Tutuu is the key wolf.

I think Wilgy shielding Sabi from Falcon is mafia shielding town with TMI from another town.

I really just have nfi anymore. I want out.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:14 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

This game makes me sad man lol.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:38 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:36 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:21 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:02 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:35 pm Seanzie/SPF/Falcon does probably in fact contain exactly one wolf was the only thing I gathered overnight.
Sean is starting to ping me. I feel he's laying an undue amount of burden at Mac's feet...and he talks about a rotten towncore, but is he not part of said core? It's not as tho he's been a major wagon or anything
I'm not laying an undue amount of burden at Mac's feet. My burden is with the group {SPF, Mac, Bereft}. I don't think the burden I've placed on that group as a whole is undue.
Of those 3, I choose SPF.
why?
What's your solve right now? Who are your top 3 sus and why plz?
my current view of the game is that i would be mildly surprised if the pool of sabi/creature/jack didn't contain at least two mafia

sabi because sabi is very talented at projecting towniness/solveiness when they are town, and they also have a tendency to get extremely invested into games when they are town and post a lot of content/thoughts without needing to think much about them

whereas sabi here feels a lot more timid, a lot less invested, and it feels like they are choosing their words carefully in the majority of posts that they do make. i think that if sabi was town, it would be eaiser to find them as town right now, which is why i want more pressure on them today in general

creature is in my immediate POE because he fits the archetype of a wolf who has aggressively pushed for the consensus while maintaining a comfortable/protected view in the gamestate. his reads have consistently contained a level of confidence and bravado that do not feel proportional to his solving, and that also do not feel proportional to how creature usually solves games as town

im also pretty convinced that if creature was town he would be throwing a fit about me/mac needing to be deepwolves right now instead of just kind of passively sitting back in the gamestate and voting me without really expressing a particularly coherent view of the game. i think creature's passivity in this gamestate could be explained by him just wanting us to continue burying each other alive

jack because his push on alison on d1 was illogical and bad faith, and the type of stuff he pushed on alison for is not the stuff i think jack!town would care about as someone who was already very familiar with alison. i also think that his primary intention for the last phase has been to pocket me, sit back, and watch us set ourselves on fire

im working it out beyond that but i think bereft/tutuu contains 1 and that it is likely to be tutuu
I am 2 votes for you today.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:36 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:54 pm

I don't see the game going the way it has if that group is mostly town.
Seanzie you literally are a main cause for why it is the way it is. And you're blaming the abstract idea that we'd stop it. You tunneled the towniest player in the game right up until they died then moved on to me. Pull your fucking head out of your ass.
I'm not "blaming" anyone or anything. I'm making a read.
Your read is that if I was town that the game wouldn't be where it is when I've been fighting against a gamestate you've been far more complicit in. You're literally 1984 as fuck. You are doing shit and then blaming me for not preventing it. It's maddening.
My read is that a group {SPF, Mac, Bereft} should be leading us, and they aren't so the group has wolves.

I have not been complicit in the gamestate. My reads have been ignored and none of the people I have pushed for have gotten chopped. The only effect I've had on the gamestate is that I've defended people like Falcon and Creature, because I think they're more likely town than not, and I think I've helped avoid wagons on them.
You were one of the main people pushing Baudib on day 1. It's disingenuous to say you're not complicit in the gamestate when you did that AND voted Alison on day 1. You are not alone but you're part of the core group.
I did push Baudib, and I was wrong, but that isn't being complicit in anything. I only voted Alison when the day was almost done (5 minutes left) and a FS wagon appeared out of nowhere (unless you mean earlier in the day when I was voting Alison and Baudib to see how people would react to the tie). Alison was not a great choice IMO, but at that point, only Alison and FS were viable, at AT LEAST Alison is someone we talked about that day so their flip would be more beneficial than an infoless FS flip.

Neither of these things is being complicit in the gamestate.
Being awfully generous to yourself compared to others.
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:35 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Sabiplz wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:48 pm @MacDougall why did you at eod yesterday said creature is town and now at sod say creature eis mafia?
overnight reevaluation
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:26 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:24 pm How is tutuu being a wolf ignored in all of this.
WHY is Tutuu a wolf?
Maybe you should read the game you're pretending to try and solve
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:24 pm How is tutuu being a wolf ignored in all of this.
In what world is tutuu being ignored?
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:23 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm

If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.
What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.
I don't see the game going the way it has if that group is mostly town.
Seanzie you literally are a main cause for why it is the way it is. And you're blaming the abstract idea that we'd stop it. You tunneled the towniest player in the game right up until they died then moved on to me. Pull your fucking head out of your ass.
I'm not "blaming" anyone or anything. I'm making a read.
Your read is that if I was town that the game wouldn't be where it is when I've been fighting against a gamestate you've been far more complicit in. You're literally 1984 as fuck. You are doing shit and then blaming me for not preventing it. It's maddening.
My read is that a group {SPF, Mac, Bereft} should be leading us, and they aren't so the group has wolves.

I have not been complicit in the gamestate. My reads have been ignored and none of the people I have pushed for have gotten chopped. The only effect I've had on the gamestate is that I've defended people like Falcon and Creature, because I think they're more likely town than not, and I think I've helped avoid wagons on them.
You were one of the main people pushing Baudib on day 1. It's disingenuous to say you're not complicit in the gamestate when you did that AND voted Alison on day 1. You are not alone but you're part of the core group.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:02 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:57 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:53 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.
Why SPF? Meta thing? When I've caught SPF before it was due to PoE.
No. *when the game is obviously hard e.g. ive obviously whiffed on most people below SPF*

Why are you voting sig?
Because I'm not confident on you.

Creature is a fine option as well, but I don't think creature is contributing to the theoretical town infighting we are seeing.

Sig can definitely be along for the town in fight ride.
Not contributing to the town infighting literally is what the hypothetical mafia are doing in your hypothetical.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:01 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm
sig wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF
If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.
What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.
I don't see the game going the way it has if that group is mostly town.
Seanzie you literally are a main cause for why it is the way it is. And you're blaming the abstract idea that we'd stop it. You tunneled the towniest player in the game right up until they died then moved on to me. Pull your fucking head out of your ass.
I'm not "blaming" anyone or anything. I'm making a read.
Your read is that if I was town that the game wouldn't be where it is when I've been fighting against a gamestate you've been far more complicit in. You're literally 1984 as fuck. You are doing shit and then blaming me for not preventing it. It's maddening.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:59 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 72272

Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:27 pm

Game is clearly hard. Fact that you refuse to acknowledge that is bad.
The game being hard does not automatically mean Bereft/SPF/Mac contains mafia. If us three were dead and Baudib, Alison and Rondo alive you'd probably have the exact same argument with different names.
Keep on powerwolfing man, it's a reasonable thing to do. You're going to have to deal with me all day though.
Okay I'm done with you. I pleaded with you to work with me yesterday and you ignored me. I'm burying you today.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
From my POV, you have not tried to work with me at all. I explained my case on you yesterday and you just called it illogical and then got upset and started AtEing. Since you've used similar AtE on me when you were a wolf in the past, you burned the one "I'mma drop it in case this is real town frustration and not manipulative AtE" card you get. I don't think I've been rude to you, and I get how this game can get heated at times, and I believe your frustration is probably genuine, but I also know you expressing frustration in the thread is NAI, so you can't expect me to just change my reads because of it.

Bury away.
You have given me zero opportunity to explain my mindset to you in a way that could persuade you to change your read. I have been very townie. You have been a town killing machine and accusing me of the opposite. You should actually reevaluate me properly if you are town. I made a day 1 solve you quoted and questioned me on that so far has had 3 town flip from my towncore and 0 mafia. Largely players you've pushed. Either you're a cause or complicit in the destruction of the town wincon in this game imo.
I've suspected town, but I have not killed anyone. Who have I pushed that then got chopped because of it?

You can say my reads are shit, but town killing? no.

Why are you letting town from your towncore flip so easily?
Oh yes I forgot I control every vote in the game.

I literally created a wagon day 1 to try to save them. Fuck off.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:58 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Jack day 1 buried Alison and he has done nothing since. He's fallen off. He is mafia.

You wanna say I'm the cause of this gamestate. Eat shit.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:56 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm
sig wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF
If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.
What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.
I don't see the game going the way it has if that group is mostly town.
Seanzie you literally are a main cause for why it is the way it is. And you're blaming the abstract idea that we'd stop it. You tunneled the towniest player in the game right up until they died then moved on to me. Pull your fucking head out of your ass.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:55 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

There's stuff like this all through Tutuu's iso. Tutuu worked double time to ensure day 3 was nothing but a Roxy sleepwalk. Sheeping bad town legacy is a thing town do but I think Tutuu did it egregiously.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:54 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

tutuu wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:58 am So like I’m massively pinged by Creature. SPF and Mac have made meta cases against Creature. I want to yeet Creature. The closest thing I have to a reason not to do this is recently being wrong on Alison and a probably illogical worry that I’m going to receive more pressure and have less thread pull with a t!Creature yeet than a t!Roxy yeet. This does not override my scumread but it is in my brain.

Alison said to yeet Roxy. Roxy has done fuck all. Roxy has scum equity w/Creature. I want to yeet Roxy but given I haven’t read any Roxy posts that I didn’t specifically go looking for in her iso and given her very short iso, I don’t feel as confident there as I feel on Creature.

I’m hoping these are both wolves and it doesn’t fucking matter but in the spirit of working with my townreads to make them more affective, fucking order me from one wagon to the other as you will @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @tutuu.

This is also partly so I don’t get SPF twisting herself in a knot trying to figure out if I’m bussing or distancing or saving or whatever.


I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.
roxy first please, we promised alison :pray:

alison's last words were

roxy > neon > creature > sig iirc
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm
sig wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF
If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.
What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.
From my perspective it's practically impossible. I'm town and I've seen interactions between them that do not seem w/w. I don't think SPF had mafia partners in this game. I don't think either are mafia though.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:36 pm Day 1 Alison and Baudib1 got run up by players who mostly remain alive. Both town. I solved WITH them and tried to disrupt their wagons. I clearly was in their world.

Tutuu and Jack are just fucking mafia but instead of killing them I have to deal with Seanzie bullshit. I don't care anymore get the fuck out of my way.
I am willing to concede that Jack is more than likely mafia. However, I feel like we need to cut of my serpents head.
And why pray tell are you ignoring Tutuu?
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Tutuu fmpov is always mafia. Tutuu is deep and very good at mafia and has assassinated townies while pocketing the fuck out of me. Tutuu's handling of Roxy is egregious.

Jack/Sabi/Creature/Seanzie/Dennis probably contains a fuckload of mafia.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:50 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I think we should consider Roxy's Dennis read as worthy of consideration also.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:27 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.
Game is clearly hard. Fact that you refuse to acknowledge that is bad.
The game being hard does not automatically mean Bereft/SPF/Mac contains mafia. If us three were dead and Baudib, Alison and Rondo alive you'd probably have the exact same argument with different names.
Keep on powerwolfing man, it's a reasonable thing to do. You're going to have to deal with me all day though.
Okay I'm done with you. I pleaded with you to work with me yesterday and you ignored me. I'm burying you today.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
From my POV, you have not tried to work with me at all. I explained my case on you yesterday and you just called it illogical and then got upset and started AtEing. Since you've used similar AtE on me when you were a wolf in the past, you burned the one "I'mma drop it in case this is real town frustration and not manipulative AtE" card you get. I don't think I've been rude to you, and I get how this game can get heated at times, and I believe your frustration is probably genuine, but I also know you expressing frustration in the thread is NAI, so you can't expect me to just change my reads because of it.

Bury away.
You have given me zero opportunity to explain my mindset to you in a way that could persuade you to change your read. I have been very townie. You have been a town killing machine and accusing me of the opposite. You should actually reevaluate me properly if you are town. I made a day 1 solve you quoted and questioned me on that so far has had 3 town flip from my towncore and 0 mafia. Largely players you've pushed. Either you're a cause or complicit in the destruction of the town wincon in this game imo.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:46 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Just skimming Seanzie's iso.

Day 1 and day 2 he campaigned for Baudib to die. Baudib was the towniest player in the game.

He shielded Alison then voted her at the end.

He has tunneled me relentlessly.

Hes shielded actual scummy players.

Just kill him.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:39 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I also think Creature is mafia. And the last one is between Sig/Seanzie/Wilgy.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:38 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm If anyone wants to talk me about interactions and consequently possible scumteam worlds then I'd love to talk, don't think I will make any earthshattering revelations about individual players at the moment.
Jack's entire contribution to the game was to tunnel Alison for shit reasons day 1 and then slank. Baudib1 had a lock scum read on him. He is mafia.

Tutuu has ruthlessly pushed town near exclusively while doing nothing but blatantly pocket others. She is mafia.

Kate was scummy. Sabi subbed in and continued being scummy.

Start there.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:36 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Day 1 Alison and Baudib1 got run up by players who mostly remain alive. Both town. I solved WITH them and tried to disrupt their wagons. I clearly was in their world.

Tutuu and Jack are just fucking mafia but instead of killing them I have to deal with Seanzie bullshit. I don't care anymore get the fuck out of my way.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:27 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.
Game is clearly hard. Fact that you refuse to acknowledge that is bad.
The game being hard does not automatically mean Bereft/SPF/Mac contains mafia. If us three were dead and Baudib, Alison and Rondo alive you'd probably have the exact same argument with different names.
Keep on powerwolfing man, it's a reasonable thing to do. You're going to have to deal with me all day though.
Okay I'm done with you. I pleaded with you to work with me yesterday and you ignored me. I'm burying you today.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:33 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:26 pm Seanzie your appraisal of this gamestate is egregious. Bereft and SPF are the only people whose reads actually make sense. Why are you pushing into us 3 and not Jack/Tutuu/Wilgy and other actual wolfy players?
If multiple days go by with a rockstar twoncore and no wolves die, the rockstar towncore is rotten.
3 days have gone by.

Day 1 was all town wagons. I pushed a slanker over and spared Alison and Baudib who have both flipped town.

Day 2 the day was cut short by a card killing Alison before anything was able to be done.

Day 3 was a non day because the entire game including Roxy just slepwalked to that lim. It was a write off day for me because you and others treated me like hot confirmation biased garbage.

You are far more responsible for the gamestate than I am and are hard wolfsiding.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:27 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.
Game is clearly hard. Fact that you refuse to acknowledge that is bad.
The game being hard does not automatically mean Bereft/SPF/Mac contains mafia. If us three were dead and Baudib, Alison and Rondo alive you'd probably have the exact same argument with different names.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:28 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:21 pm seanzie does your read on me exist individually of my association with mac/bereft?
His read most likely exists because he's tactically choosing to play the wolf alignment by hard tunneling strong town players to run interference. He's been doing it to me for 2 phases and even made a post telegraphing that it was a valid tactic.
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:26 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Seanzie your appraisal of this gamestate is egregious. Bereft and SPF are the only people whose reads actually make sense. Why are you pushing into us 3 and not Jack/Tutuu/Wilgy and other actual wolfy players?
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:59 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

lucy wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:56 pm
lucy wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:55 pm mac how confident are you on tutuu scum
Is this where I pick another scumread that's town and everyone kills them and blames me?
it's where if you die i want to know how confident you are on tutuu to know that information for myself in my own analysis
It's a read I am willing to push eventually.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:59 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Sabiplz wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:52 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .
Where's creature
Over there being a town.
How is he town?

He hasn't doom and gloom posted?

Hasn't posted any paranoia over you or spf?

He's been not cranky.

Explain why is he town.
I like his direction. I like his reads.
But why does that make him town?
I like people who have reads I understand and agree with.

You're just meta reading him. I get it. Creature often plays without those tells as town once he gets a footing.

But I could be wrong and you could be right. Right now I don't want to kill someone who feels like they are siding with my gamestate.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:56 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

lucy wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:55 pm mac how confident are you on tutuu scum
Is this where I pick another scumread that's town and everyone kills them and blames me?
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:55 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Sabiplz wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:52 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .
Where's creature
Over there being a town.
How is he town?

He hasn't doom and gloom posted?

Hasn't posted any paranoia over you or spf?

He's been not cranky.

Explain why is he town.
I like his direction. I like his reads.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:55 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Or Sabi.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:54 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

I will vote Roxy over Creature.

I think Jack would be my preferred chop.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Sabiplz wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:52 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .
Where's creature
Over there being a town.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 72272

Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:51 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .
you're missing sig
I don't think Wilgy is mafia.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:43 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

I am now about 80% sure Roxy is town.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:20 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:17 pm If one puts:

Bereft
lucy
RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall
Porscha
Seanzie
staypositivefriend
falcon45ca

as town, then the game is near locked so I don't quite see the issue here.
Do you think all these players are town?
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:15 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Btw Andor is the best Star Wars universe product ever made imo.
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:15 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

We are in the midgame so I am just going to force myself not to weathervane cuz if I'm wrong we probably are going to lose and if I'm right we will lose unless I stop playing badly.

@falcon45ca @Seanzie @RondoDimBuckle @DrWilgy

I believe you four are town. I need you to find me town or I am going to be nothing but a distraction and it will continue to cyclically frustrate me all game. Whatever suspicion you have towards me needs to die now or this game will be a loss for town imo.

@staypositivefriend @Bereft I am choosing to disregard tinfoil towards you both. I am willing to just mason with you ride or die.

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