The Syndicate

this game was certainly more humorous when we were talking about seanzie's anal virginity but it's a lot more productive now lol.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:36 am yeah sure it's whatever I just wanna kill achro atm.

like achro goes from "come at me i never get mischopped one time in 6 years" to "chop me daddy" in the space of one game?
He was doing it from post 1 and I doubt he hops into scum chat and immediately goes "I'm gonna run it down guys, watch this". I am inclined to believe it is at least partially due to his IRL situation.

He is scummy anyway

I just don't vibe that he would ever do it as town like as town i'd expect "i'm not gonna be around but don't you dare sus me" type shit. It's a source of pride for him.

yeah sure it's whatever I just wanna kill achro atm.

like achro goes from "come at me i never get mischopped one time in 6 years" to "chop me daddy" in the space of one game?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:22 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:17 am Do you sus sabi?
I do.

what's the cause?

Do you sus sabi?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:13 am @Mac how confident on you are Sabi

Someone check if lucy/Porscha makes sense as partners from earlier interactions since they're treating each other very oddly.

Not very.

So the solve is achro and whichever of lucy/porscha make the most sense to be the partner.

Okay so now I've established that both Axe and Alison are in fact town. Hooray.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:59 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:52 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:51 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:46 am
My reads are good. Yours aren't.
You don't even have confident reads on anyone and were sheeping my axe read like 15 minutes ago before you suddenly decided you believed it beyond all doubt because you got caught overdefending your position.
I sheeped it out of respect for your read. I no longer thing you have a good or accurate grasp on the game.
Based on?
The part where you are confbiasing yourself into an extremely inaccurate read on me.
I'm not confirmation biasing. I am interrogating. And frankly I am enjoying it and also appreciate being able to do so to my full extent without getting made to feel like I'm being an asshole so thank you for being you.
hopefully I gave you the same you aren't an asshole vibes earlier

well you didn't give me the opposite so by proxy yes lol

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:58 am Funnily enough, I think I'm far more pro-town when I don't talk about the game like the last 2 I've played on site, this game I've been decidedly anti-town so far

agreed

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:52 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:51 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:46 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:45 am Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.
My reads are good. Yours aren't.
You don't even have confident reads on anyone and were sheeping my axe read like 15 minutes ago before you suddenly decided you believed it beyond all doubt because you got caught overdefending your position.
I sheeped it out of respect for your read. I no longer thing you have a good or accurate grasp on the game.
Based on?
The part where you are confbiasing yourself into an extremely inaccurate read on me.

I'm not confirmation biasing. I am interrogating. And frankly I am enjoying it and also appreciate being able to do so to my full extent without getting made to feel like I'm being an asshole so thank you for being you.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:46 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:45 am Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.
My reads are good. Yours aren't.
You don't even have confident reads on anyone and were sheeping my axe read like 15 minutes ago before you suddenly decided you believed it beyond all doubt because you got caught overdefending your position.
I sheeped it out of respect for your read. I no longer thing you have a good or accurate grasp on the game.

Based on?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:46 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:42 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:39 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:37 am Why?
1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.
1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.
Having one bad read means you made a mistake. Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

NAA falls into the latter category.
So you hold Axe's reads accuracy and commitment to pro-town play to a higher standard than Sabi and Falcon?
By a large margin. Maybe I wouldn't when I first met him but he has reformed and tries his best to win his games now. He is also has way better reads as town than Falcon and Sabi who are =rand and <rand respectively.

I'm going to leave Axe himself to be the judge of whether this is actually true or not.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:46 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:45 am Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.
My reads are good. Yours aren't.

You don't even have confident reads on anyone and were sheeping my axe read like 15 minutes ago before you suddenly decided you believed it beyond all doubt because you got caught overdefending your position.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:42 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:39 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:37 am Why?
1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.
1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.
Having one bad read means you made a mistake. Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

NAA falls into the latter category.

So you hold Axe's reads accuracy and commitment to pro-town play to a higher standard than Sabi and Falcon?

[VOTE: unvote seanzie] aubergine

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:43 am I reacted to Alison's reads when she came into the thread and how limp they were, many people have also called out the reads as being bad, BUT I'M CRAZY for voting ALISON?

Who is saying that?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:41 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:39 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:23 am she should not die
snooze cruise
something something my reads are better than Alison's
I don't understand how you and mac are giving the reason why Alison should die and not killing her for it.

When does day end? Is it in 5 minutes?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:39 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:37 am Why?
1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:36 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:33 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Do what things?
Vote me, you and Seanzie.
So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?
Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.
You forgot the townie bit. "But Mac does that all the time and ultimately reevaluates correctly so I'm not worried."

Probably because that sentence does nothing to benefit your wolf agenda.
I have repeatedly said you were town and have not expressed an iota of interest in voting you. I just think you're wrong which you admit you are as town all the time.

This time you added the bit that benefits your wolf agenda.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:36 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:33 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Do what things?
Vote me, you and Seanzie.
So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?
straw man
I'm just trying to understand how bloated Alison's head is to think that the holy ground she walks on can't be touched.

About 5 minutes ago I was thinking "we're just about at the point where Starv says something really mean and turns his camera off in anger".

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:32 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Do what things?
Vote me, you and Seanzie.
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would vote Alison, Mac and Seanzie.
This is the single least true thing anyone has ever said about him.
I strongly believe that a town NAA would not make those votes.

Why?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:34 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:33 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:26 am All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.
You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Do what things?
Vote me, you and Seanzie.
So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?
Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

You forgot the townie bit. "But Mac does that all the time and ultimately reevaluates correctly so I'm not worried."

Probably because that sentence does nothing to benefit your wolf agenda.

Voting you, Mac and Seanzie (sans context) is absolutely not reason enough to say he's not in his townrange. You've been caught bullshitting. Now what?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:32 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:26 am All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.
You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Do what things?
Vote me, you and Seanzie.
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would vote Alison, Mac and Seanzie.

This is the single least true thing anyone has ever said about him.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:30 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:26 am All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.
You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Do what things?
Vote me, you and Seanzie.

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would vote Alison, Mac and Seanzie.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:31 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:26 am All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.
You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.
Voting you isn't anti-town lel

If there was any doubt I had you might be mafia it is now gone.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:26 am All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.
You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?
Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:26 am All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

@achromatic i do hope this isn't your wolf game cuz it'd be disappointing to discover you're this easy to read lol.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:23 am [VOTE: Achromatic] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

I think these are the correct votes for now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:17 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:14 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:13 am I can't find Achromatic's partner if he is mafia.

It's not lucy, it's not Wilgy. It could be Sabi but Mac is asserting some behind the scenes history that makes them townie. So who is it? Seanzie and I miscleared him?
Nominally, I disagree that he is unpartnered with anybody frankly. There's literally no way that he can be spewed unpartnered with the entire game right now and there's no way that you in your right mind would ever make an argument so ridiculous in the middle of the first day of the game.
I gave you the arguments for Achro not being partnered with lucy or Wilgy. What is wrong with them?
Nothing specifically except for that there'd be no argument good enough to proceed to the next logical string of completely ruling them out as possible partners in order to try to townread the guy. It's such bogus logic especially from you.

Like we're at a point right now Alison where I am anti vibing basically everything you are saying and I cannot reconcile how you can be town and thinking the way you are so I am heavily considering just instructing the town to kill us both.
That's a terrible idea especially since I think you are town.

Can you seriously not see worlds where we are V/V and just disagree? Like, you know, in the game that ended just a couple of weeks ago where exactly that happened?
Can I see a world where you are a villager solving using logic the way you are?

You are trying to worldbuild on day 1 of a mountainous game.
You are making solves predicated on players not being clear partners, which is much easier to reconcile coming from wolf mindset than town.
You are ignoring clear and obvious meta you should have on players in order to push level 1 solves which, see above.

Can I see a world where you're doing this as town. Of course. But it's also all of your wolf meta rolled into one hamburger.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:17 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:14 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:13 am I can't find Achromatic's partner if he is mafia.

It's not lucy, it's not Wilgy. It could be Sabi but Mac is asserting some behind the scenes history that makes them townie. So who is it? Seanzie and I miscleared him?
Nominally, I disagree that he is unpartnered with anybody frankly. There's literally no way that he can be spewed unpartnered with the entire game right now and there's no way that you in your right mind would ever make an argument so ridiculous in the middle of the first day of the game.
I gave you the arguments for Achro not being partnered with lucy or Wilgy. What is wrong with them?
Nothing specifically except for that there'd be no argument good enough to proceed to the next logical string of completely ruling them out as possible partners in order to try to townread the guy. It's such bogus logic especially from you.

Like we're at a point right now Alison where I am anti vibing basically everything you are saying and I cannot reconcile how you can be town and thinking the way you are so I am heavily considering just instructing the town to kill us both.
That's a terrible idea especially since I think you are town.

Can you seriously not see worlds where we are V/V and just disagree? Like, you know, in the game that ended just a couple of weeks ago where exactly that happened?

Can I see a world where you are a villager solving using logic the way you are?

You are trying to worldbuild on day 1 of a mountainous game.
You are making solves predicated on players not being clear partners, which is much easier to reconcile coming from wolf mindset than town.
You are ignoring clear and obvious meta you should have on players in order to push level 1 solves which, see above.

Can I see a world where you're doing this as town. Of course. But it's also all of your wolf meta rolled into one hamburger.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:17 am No but seriously I am exhausted and like a good rp but Alison seems to be really trying here and I feel like the smart wolf move here is to keep the out of his head achro around awhile and they wouldn't do me the mercy of death like I asked for post 1 so probably not Alison tbh.

Alison is trying to project town and failing is what Alison is doing.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:15 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:10 am mac (if he dies early lol)

alison/Axe
sabi
seanzie
achro

falcon (null)

wigly/Porscha
I hate the fuck out of this solve coming from your fivehead ass.
???????

your solves are usually much more creative than whatever has got you to this point

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:14 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:13 am I can't find Achromatic's partner if he is mafia.

It's not lucy, it's not Wilgy. It could be Sabi but Mac is asserting some behind the scenes history that makes them townie. So who is it? Seanzie and I miscleared him?
Nominally, I disagree that he is unpartnered with anybody frankly. There's literally no way that he can be spewed unpartnered with the entire game right now and there's no way that you in your right mind would ever make an argument so ridiculous in the middle of the first day of the game.
I gave you the arguments for Achro not being partnered with lucy or Wilgy. What is wrong with them?

Nothing specifically except for that there'd be no argument good enough to proceed to the next logical string of completely ruling them out as possible partners in order to try to townread the guy. It's such bogus logic especially from you.

Like we're at a point right now Alison where I am anti vibing basically everything you are saying and I cannot reconcile how you can be town and thinking the way you are so I am heavily considering just instructing the town to kill us both.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:10 am mac (if he dies early lol)

alison/Axe
sabi
seanzie
achro

falcon (null)

wigly/Porscha

I hate the fuck out of this solve coming from your fivehead ass.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:13 am I can't find Achromatic's partner if he is mafia.

It's not lucy, it's not Wilgy. It could be Sabi but Mac is asserting some behind the scenes history that makes them townie. So who is it? Seanzie and I miscleared him?

Nominally, I disagree that he is unpartnered with anybody frankly. There's literally no way that he can be spewed unpartnered with the entire game right now and there's no way that you in your right mind would ever make an argument so ridiculous in the middle of the first day of the game.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:06 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02 am if achro flips scum, am I spewed town? @MacDougall
No but this post is too asinine for you to ever make as partners with him so I'll also say yes.
>be me, achromatic
>rand mafia with someone I have history with
>irl stuff going on that makes it hard to play
>lazily bus them and peace out

I don't buy it. lucy and achro are not w/w.

I mean, I just said that they aren't partners.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:07 am Why are you townreading Sabi, Mac!

Sabi as mafia would have TMI on me as town and would be dining the fuck out on that in this game given the conversations we've had outside of game about how polarised I am etc. Her sussing me in this game is essentially a townslip.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:04 am It is absolutely certain that NAA is wolfsiding extremely hard here. You'd be more trusting than me if you expect me to set that aside because of some nuance about his meta or whatever it is you are expecting me to read him off.

I know that you as a wolf hide fiercely behind game theory optimal behaviour. You always push for killing people who are being objectively anti town when you are mafia because you struggle to be able to see when that person is simultaneously being very obvious town while being anti town. You fall into this trap as mafia all the time.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02 am if achro flips scum, am I spewed town? @MacDougall

No but this post is too asinine for you to ever make as partners with him so I'll also say yes.

Achro - Sure he's got OGI reasons and stuff but he's just way off his town game
Alison - I have a dilemma because I have a bad but I think accurate reason to townread her but she is in her wolf meta.
DrWilgy - Probably spewed town and also town for lack of giving of fucks.
Falcon - Seems to be likely spewed town but also imma hedge on that one.
Lucy - Is trying very hard to act like she's not solving but she really is and she should probably just drop the no day 1 reads nonsense cuz clearly you can make them. That's townie imo.
NotAnAxehole - Squarely in his wtf meta. Kill if in f3.
Porscha - Solviest person in the game aside from me (and Alison but Porscha's solves are less agenda laden and more easy to parse).
Sabi - Frozen and crying in wolf chat. But also town.
Seanzie - Always town via Alison TMI or correct read.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:56 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:40 pm Yeah it's like super easy to believe Alison is just totally off lol.
I am honestly more on than I have been in my last three games. I am skeptical of you and NAA calling my tone "off" without giving specific examples.
You keep saying abjectly unbelievable things specifically about NotAnAxehole. You have so much experience with Axe right now I really struggle to understand how you can be telegraphing so many bad takes about how he plays. Your understanding of his playstyle would have to be better than is being shown surely.
What about that comment implied any comment on NAA's playstyle? He has said my interactions were fake. I'm skeptical of that read.
Firstly I didn't say your tone was off. I said YOU were off. And I am mostly referring to you making reads on NotAnAxehole that make no sense given your experience with him. You are trying to reduce my point down to a specific post on which I was not commenting but was rather commenting more generally on your play around him, which we have already gone over and disagreed on so you already know that I have basis for finding your dealings with him wack, and now you are pretending to be confused/incredulous about it.
My reads on NAA are very sensical.

They really aren't. To be specific you keep pushing or suspecting him for things that are clearly in his known townrange.

unvoting porscha

[VOTE: achro] aubergine

I think there is an absolutely strong chance Achro is mafia here and just being overwhelmed and struggling to keep his head above water with town sounding solutions.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:40 pm Yeah it's like super easy to believe Alison is just totally off lol.
I am honestly more on than I have been in my last three games. I am skeptical of you and NAA calling my tone "off" without giving specific examples.
You keep saying abjectly unbelievable things specifically about NotAnAxehole. You have so much experience with Axe right now I really struggle to understand how you can be telegraphing so many bad takes about how he plays. Your understanding of his playstyle would have to be better than is being shown surely.
What about that comment implied any comment on NAA's playstyle? He has said my interactions were fake. I'm skeptical of that read.

Firstly I didn't say your tone was off. I said YOU were off. And I am mostly referring to you making reads on NotAnAxehole that make no sense given your experience with him. You are trying to reduce my point down to a specific post on which I was not commenting but was rather commenting more generally on your play around him, which we have already gone over and disagreed on so you already know that I have basis for finding your dealings with him wack, and now you are pretending to be confused/incredulous about it.

Again there is nobody who is voting me and the other top vote getter. This keeps happening lol.

I retract Porscha/Alison solve.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:40 pm Yeah it's like super easy to believe Alison is just totally off lol.
I am honestly more on than I have been in my last three games. I am skeptical of you and NAA calling my tone "off" without giving specific examples.

You keep saying abjectly unbelievable things specifically about NotAnAxehole. You have so much experience with Axe right now I really struggle to understand how you can be telegraphing so many bad takes about how he plays. Your understanding of his playstyle would have to be better than is being shown surely.

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