The Syndicate

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:28 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:27 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:25 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:09 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:05 am ender can you please case dya after u do ur live posting thing cos i think that will be the best way for me to find you. my primary issue with u is that whilst u feel towny when ur doing ur catchups and in live posts i feel like ur pushes have been quite tactical and i can see an agenda behind it.
I am going to case Dya now yes.

I said I would do it today and being exhausted doesn't stop me.

Also my D&D got cancelled so lol.
NOOOOOOOOOOO! Why didnt you tell me? I would have cancelled my plans. Well... maybe.. ok no. But I would have given you a sympathy word or two that in the grand scheme of things mean nothing
Because sympathy is eh. =P

Now read my case on Dya and sheep me.
ahhh

pick one

dya or 42
You pick one.

They will both result in the same outcome I feel.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:27 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:35 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:26 am I suppose it should right? Since roles were made before alignment so for the items to have a negative effect or to be duds then it would have had to have been designed after the rand.. I think? Idk I’m not good with setup spec and stuff like that
Do we have literally zero confirmation any of them have worked so far?
we have confirmation he can role block? So? Yes? I guess, at least from my pov

That is not what I was asking.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:25 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:09 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:05 am ender can you please case dya after u do ur live posting thing cos i think that will be the best way for me to find you. my primary issue with u is that whilst u feel towny when ur doing ur catchups and in live posts i feel like ur pushes have been quite tactical and i can see an agenda behind it.
I am going to case Dya now yes.

I said I would do it today and being exhausted doesn't stop me.

Also my D&D got cancelled so lol.
NOOOOOOOOOOO! Why didnt you tell me? I would have cancelled my plans. Well... maybe.. ok no. But I would have given you a sympathy word or two that in the grand scheme of things mean nothing

Open page 42. Read it. Give me 20 minutes of the level of analysis you provided that won town the game in KOTH.

I genuinely believe that the game is now about figuring out which of Lily and Neon is the town.

I really strongly doubt Ilario has actually read your burial bro. He is just doggedly defending a wolf teammate that just got buried. His MO while you were building the case and I was backreading day 1 was the same. He is just aggressively pushing away from the correct solve and taking refuge in audacity.

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:21 pm think mac is town. his attitude feels more free flowing than his recent wolf games

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:21 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:19 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:17 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:15 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:13 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:12 am Like I get what ur saying, but alota the things you think are wolfy such as focusing on specific slots is quite normal for dya, they normally open every game focusing on who they know best and solving one slot at a time. If they come into the game late then it’s quite expected their d1 worldview would be narrow imo
Remember that game where I cased Brad when you townread him and you told me that all of what I was calling scummy was entirely in his town meta?
yeah that was d1, then i read ur case, read the game and buried him the next 2 days lmao. and then killed his partner the day after
...

No?

It was D3.

Then I buried him and you eventually came around to it after I argued with you.

And I helped you find the last wolf.

That was the basketball game.

And sure it was one of my better town games. But I am no nonce.

ALSO

How do you explain my point about how Dya overtly treated Mac as if he was loverised?
what is wrong about dyas treatment there?
If Belzy is scum that loverised with Mac.

Who else treats them like they're a loverised town with a mafia partner?

Dya is the only one that overtly does that.

Go reread and tell me how I'm wrong on that.
But dya has had mac as confident town since d1, it’s not like the read came out of nowhere. Alison treated mac the same way lol

Bro, the read literally did come out of nowhere. Read her second post.

I've read that game recently, ender is telling it correctly...

I had brad as a scumread day 1 and alexa bullied me out of it... I had wiml as a separate world scumread and couldn't find brad/wiml together and alexa and I were locked in combat because i thought she was mafia for shielding brad and she thought i was mafia for pushing him and ignoring her read. I literally killed myself to get out of the game so that Alexa would reevaluate the game with me being town. I did suspect Ilario though that's fair, but it sure as fuck is not why I died you snake in the grass.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:19 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:17 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:15 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:13 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:12 am Like I get what ur saying, but alota the things you think are wolfy such as focusing on specific slots is quite normal for dya, they normally open every game focusing on who they know best and solving one slot at a time. If they come into the game late then it’s quite expected their d1 worldview would be narrow imo
Remember that game where I cased Brad when you townread him and you told me that all of what I was calling scummy was entirely in his town meta?
yeah that was d1, then i read ur case, read the game and buried him the next 2 days lmao. and then killed his partner the day after
...

No?

It was D3.

Then I buried him and you eventually came around to it after I argued with you.

And I helped you find the last wolf.

That was the basketball game.

And sure it was one of my better town games. But I am no nonce.

ALSO

How do you explain my point about how Dya overtly treated Mac as if he was loverised?
no cos im pretty sure on d2 i wanted to kill brad but then mac kept trying to kill me so somehow he ended up dying that day

that is a very ridiculous retelling of that game where I had a POE of literally brad/alexa/wiml the entire mafia team but go off king

noting that dyachei came into the thread moments ago to try to use ATE ON ME to get me to reconsider

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:15 am Ender: Posts a masterwork burial on an s-tier town that shows they blatantly pushed town all game while shielding an openly polarised mafia slot. Literally unredeemable.

Ilario: I just think ur confbiased
lets say dya flips town does that make ender outed? he will also be guilty of what you are accusing dya of.

thats why i think results based thinking like this are kinda circular, imo. the game isnt an easy solve, we've been trying for days and its still hard. in an environment like that it means it is quite normal and okay for townies to be wrong.

your endless hypotheticals designed to make me consider impossible worldviews and scumread town have run their course

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:16 am I think Belzy is absolutely loverised mafia with Mac, which means Mac if you shoot them tonight you kill yourself.

Which, unfortunately, I think you have to do kinda.

Haha I strongly doubt Belzy is going to survive this day even if it means I'm out.

But me flipping town and heading into DVC here is probably fine.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:15 am Ender: Posts a masterwork burial on an s-tier town that shows they blatantly pushed town all game while shielding an openly polarised mafia slot. Literally unredeemable and tried to gaslight the top poster in the game, and plausibly Ilario too. Unrepentantly incorrect town killing robot dyachei.

Ilario: I just think ur confbiased

Ebwop

Ender: Posts a masterwork burial on an s-tier town that shows they blatantly pushed town all game while shielding an openly polarised mafia slot. Literally unredeemable.

Ilario: I just think ur confbiased

@Lilypetal @Neon one of you is a wolf. Figure it out.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:11 am @EnderWiggin they are both just trying to head fuck you and it's blatantly obvious. They are mafia together. Ilario is not this prone to being pocketed. If he was town he'd be all over Dya like a rash. They are treating you the same way right now they've been treating me.
Lol I openly said it can be a pocket, I just don’t find his case convincing, but on the plus side I think it’s helped me find him as town haha

If you don't think that case is convincing there is not a case on Earth that would convince you my guy. You're just mafia. Let it goooo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:12 am Belzy
Dya
Ilario

Are all entirely outed mafia.

The only question I have is which of Lily/Neon is the other one.

Given I was in the process of highlighting how it's always Lilypetal and Ilario was blatantly pushing Neon instead, and their entire gameplan appears to be to just powerwolf like there's no tomorrow, I'm gonna assume it's Lilypetal.

At any rate Nanook and Millium are never mafia. Nor is Ender. So we have three very firm town here now.

Belzy
Dya
Ilario

Are all entirely outed mafia.

The only question I have is which of Lily/Neon is the other one.

@EnderWiggin they are both just trying to head fuck you and it's blatantly obvious. They are mafia together. Ilario is not this prone to being pocketed. If he was town he'd be all over Dya like a rash. They are treating you the same way right now they've been treating me.

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:18 pm Day 1 votecount

Arogame (9): Lily, Seanzie, Alison, Dya, SPF, Santy, Neon, Mac, Tigarial
Millium (5): Cham, Porscha, Belzy, Arogame, Millium
Cham (2): Rondo, Ender
Alison (1): Nanook
Porscha (1): Ilario

I think seanzie, alison, neon, and tilg are most suspicious. I think tilg maybe less than the others because the pile on at that point would probably be something mafia would avoid. Seanzie's actions all game have really confused me but I think he's probably played more games with aro on TS where aro is apparently revered.

alison is good at pushing her agenda when she has one.

ignores lily

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:59 am damn it i was gonna solve the game but ender has now distracted me with the most hilarious casing of all time
Are you saying it doesn't actually read like a proper case to you? I at least appreciate you enjoyed the humour I added in.

no dude it's a straight up slam dunk burial master case on someone who has been pinging me non stop all game, it's catharsis

@EnderWiggin now do ilario lol

damn it i was gonna solve the game but ender has now distracted me with the most hilarious casing of all time

"This push is toothless. This is not a real reason to scumread someone over Millium "Selfvote" Wisp and Porscha "Wolfy" Porscha."

this is the funniest post of the game...

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:50 pm I will also kill millium btw I believe aro/millium have the highest chances of a wolf rn

Contextually, this post is now outing.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:53 am team is neon rondo and todays vote on neon is just rondo trying to distance because he knows neon is never going over today

I really do not think that it is Rondo but we shall see what comes of this current process. Stop pushing Rondo and get back on page 42 with me biatch.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:53 am make how many players do you need to clear not named illario for us to win. im happy to help u townclear slots and u can keep me in the perma-poe which might actually be pro-town to do

Fucks me if Belzy is mafia not many. If Belzy is town... probably like, every town haha.

Like there's a LOT a lot.

Millium voted Porscha as half self pres half "this is a meh slot" and was like entirely apathetic to it in a way that is never partnery and then when they were perfectly placed there for distancing/bussing literally self voted instead of switching to arogame. Just like... if it's mafia good on you brah.

Anywho we just took a short detour into Millium town. Back to page 42 lol.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:06 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:04 pm lol there we go. I'll do those now Aro. Wasn't Lumi in this game?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Skimmed through Porscha ISO and this is fine.
make sure u vote in the poll at the top of the page as well

Aaaanyway there is more there that I am not going to spoonfeed you if you literally open Millium's ISO.

@Millium congratulations you now also have a shield and are incontrovertible town.

Town

Nanook
Millium

POE

Lilypetal
Neon
Dyachei
Ilario
Belzy

We play find the town in the POE list here and I think that is how we win this game.

Look at me, literally solving in real time, changing my reads in front of you based on actual posts... forcing my worldview on you.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:46 am Like it feels like ur moreso trying to force your worldview onto me rather than work with me, that’s the similarity I was noting

Oh no I'm so evil and forceful.

Bro wtf am I even doing here Millium is lock clear from their Porscha interactions.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:31 am tbf I like the fact that SPF called out Belzy's progression on me, even if I'm a bit conf biased on the matter
and they kinda poof out of existence since last night

and Ender was definitely more thoughtful in their progression in baby mafia than what I see here

arogame123
Belzy
Cham
dyachei
EnderWiggen
Neon
Porscha
santygrass
Seanzie
Tilgarial

Cham and day both feel up in the air at this point
Porscha has also done nothing, but I feel inclined to ask what should I expect from them lol
I think Neon's interactions with were good, and they really popped off with their last burst of posting (still kinda shrugging at the fact they twisted my words into wanting to kill a townie though, and from my POV Porshca still doesn't deserve a town lean.

arogame123
Belzy
EnderWiggen
Neon
Porscha
santygrass
Seanzie
Tilgarial

while I can see the argument that Santy feels to confident, this to me still feels more like their finals than semi's

arogame123
Belzy
EnderWiggen
Neon
Porscha
Seanzie
Tilgarial

this is the PoE I really want to shift through, and try to downsize it

yannoooo this post might just clear millium

interesting millium was the one you felt permitted to want to bury when I started going ape shit over all this

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:39 am (I appreciate the patience you are exhibiting with my hostile tone lol)
its fine lol, koba and achro did much in finals and semis. i have to warn you though they were both collectively correct on 0 reads so maybe ur not in great company rn (im just messing...kinda)

Yeah you know what you're right, the last person with any wim to bother trying to solve the game is possibly gonna wind up not doing so cuz Achro and Koba didn't in a different game. I should just give up.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:50 pm I will also kill millium btw I believe aro/millium have the highest chances of a wolf rn

I do believe that contextually this rules out Millium/Lily most probably.

While at the same time making the likelihood they are t/w higher.

(I can see now why Alison was tunneling Santy on day 2 btw)

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:49 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:48 pm Ok this game is now getting exciting and fun.

Who will side with who? Who will betray who heheh?
I hate this...

What's this then...

Sussy baka uwu 2 is now joining Sussy baka uwu 1 to defend Sussy baka uwu 3 from the evil Aro

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:39 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:38 am This isn't ending with Lily. And you better be reading the thread from the point I posted and start actually analysing shit properly instead of trying to roll off of it to bring asinine mech solves like herr derr rondo is mafia.
whycant rondo be mafia? his earlier posts today were pretty bad lol

Humouring players who are not appearing in this section of the game is disruptive to my process.

Here's an interesting little section. We have Seanzie shrug voting Millium suddenly and SPF sheeping it. This looks like the origin story of the Millium wagon.

(I appreciate the patience you are exhibiting with my hostile tone lol)

This isn't ending with Lily. And you better be reading the thread from the point I posted and start actually analysing shit properly instead of trying to roll off of it to bring asinine mech solves like herr derr rondo is mafia.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:36 am so then lily rondo works. Either me or Sean blocked a kp on n2 and lily used it to clear herself

Ilario if you want to have any chance of ending this session still snowing me please stop openwolfing. Just let me steer myself into a bad solve and sheep it like a smart wolf.

Let's scroll a bit.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:43 pm Voters: Millium, arogame123, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, EnderWiggin, ilario

Two lock wolves, a permanent memver of the POE, a top town, and a shrug slot.

Catch me on this wagon never.

Kinda wild that the entire Porscha wagon sans arogame who was the d1 chop is all still alive.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:33 am Is a polarized porcha really worth a slot tanking your entire towncred to save?

Valid question. The better question is "does town Lily ever have a townread on Porscha in their mafia meta that's strong enough to actually give a fuck about Porscha going over?"

Not only that, but she then lied about the way she could resolve her in a way that if she didn't kill her and claim it (or at least just claim it, there's no guarantee it wasn't a different wolf that fired the shot), she would have been outed the following day and immediately chained to Porscha's corpse as we drove down the highway.

Yes Lilypetal has been townie since, ergo I am not going to tunnel her but wolfy players do towny shit. They also do wolfy shit. The towny shit doesn't undo the fact that Lilypetal pretty much outed to save Porscha, someone who is polarised.

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:43 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:39 pm no like actually what has porscha done we have to stop MLing porscha lol

if there's even a chance she's town im not touching her

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

@Millium

@Chamomile

@EnderWiggin

@ilario

can you give me a 1-2 sentence reason to why you're voting porscha?
The last time you defended her like this you were scum. You didn't seem to have a problem eliminating her in the Night Before Terror

Interesting post from our dearly departed.

Do you really think that Lilypetal does not have the skill as a mafia player to fake that post?

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