The Syndicate

I mean in iso catch up I really did see wolf Ender so I would probably just want to chop Lucy/Ender in order here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:24 pm Or better phrasing: he's correct in everything regarding me and that in of itself makes me uncomfortable. However Nook has claimed the god read on me. Idk how to manage that in this.

Has it not occurred you to make him clarify his god read on you? I know when someone does that to me it pisses me off and I insist on figuring it out. You've seemed exceedingly content to just let him shield you up until right now.

No, not really. If anyone has a god read on me I'd think it to be between you and Nook. You two are the most consistent on me.

Nook in prior conversation has even described the read to me as not really describable. Perhaps that mindset is why I am just naturally deterred from arguing it.

Also net 0 in this situation because I know he's correct. It's figuring out if there's W intent behind it that has me more curious.

Figuring that out can be done by making one clarify. But if you say you've discussed this prior to the game and he's already said he can't articulate it then this line of inquiry is probably moot.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:27 pm It's further that line of thinking which pushes me towards Ender/Lucy before Nook.

Following that PoE I think still wins the game even if I'm tossed in there at any point.

See Ender going up against Porcha and surviving leans me towards Town Ender more than double wolf wagon. What are the chances? I am not shielding him but I am inclined to say he is more likely town than wolf at this point. But I can never guarantee it

Unless you think Ender was specifically a wolf counterwagon to Porscha, the chances are completely negligible. And Ender's wagon was mostly pushed by me and Achro.

Rondo (assuming a doc isn't slow rolling)
Wilgy/Dyslexicon
Seanzie/Vivax/Vulgard/Nanook
Ender/Lucy

This be my ordered from towniest to least

@lucy I wouldn't say I really have clears. I did say that I did yesterday when I was a bit bullish but I'm less so now and I have also absorbed all of Achro's WIM so.

Yeah I don't really feel comfortable calling anyone strong town right now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:17 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:12 pm PoE just feels like Ender Lucy and Nook.

I argue still that it's not Vulgard based on Achro's assessment of them towards Porschuwaga.

Talk to me about your Nanook read please.

Outside of pocketing me, I don't really know what Nook has done.

Nothing during Porscha day leaned me towards town/W nook.

He is correct on his read on me and it feels genuine about not scum siding in that regard, but that is also easy cover for a W town siding with a Wilgy pocket.

Meaning yes, he's pro town, but his insistence on how he's pro town leans into the TMI realm, if him being pro town is "pocket Wilgy".

Why pocket you specifically? Someone who probably would have just died yesterday if not for it?

Idk, maybe Nook can't legitimately claim to have a god read on anyone else? That question is exactly why it's off putting.

W nook doesn't win on solely a Wilgy pocket, maybe they want to use it to buy time for a pivot?

I'm considering that he might be intending to take you all the way to f3.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:24 pm Or better phrasing: he's correct in everything regarding me and that in of itself makes me uncomfortable. However Nook has claimed the god read on me. Idk how to manage that in this.

Has it not occurred you to make him clarify his god read on you? I know when someone does that to me it pisses me off and I insist on figuring it out. You've seemed exceedingly content to just let him shield you up until right now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:17 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:12 pm PoE just feels like Ender Lucy and Nook.

I argue still that it's not Vulgard based on Achro's assessment of them towards Porschuwaga.

Talk to me about your Nanook read please.

Outside of pocketing me, I don't really know what Nook has done.

Nothing during Porscha day leaned me towards town/W nook.

He is correct on his read on me and it feels genuine about not scum siding in that regard, but that is also easy cover for a W town siding with a Wilgy pocket.

Meaning yes, he's pro town, but his insistence on how he's pro town leans into the TMI realm, if him being pro town is "pocket Wilgy".

Why pocket you specifically? Someone who probably would have just died yesterday if not for it?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:20 pm yeah I'm getting off, mad at myself for not seeing

not seeing what?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:12 pm PoE just feels like Ender Lucy and Nook.

I argue still that it's not Vulgard based on Achro's assessment of them towards Porschuwaga.

Talk to me about your Nanook read please.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:10 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:05 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:00 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:58 pm

no it's for post game lol, I'm dead now

Lol cheeky post. Explain why you said this.

cause I can never defend myself in this scenario with my sin

You can be townie and help us solve the game and find the last wolf. Something you've made little effort to do in the last few phases tbh.

I wasn't confident on my reads and still went 2/2, then I couldn't oppose the achro Lynch by any means, try as I might

Yes you could have. But you didnt vote against it

lol no, there wasn't even a second wagon

Lucy, there were competing wagons to Achro all throughout the day. He didn't become the consensus chop until I pointed out that chopping Wilgy was illogical because of Nanook shielding him. Prior to that Wilgy and Ender had both been ahead of Achro at points.

Speaking of which, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I am going to have to ask that you explain in more reasonable detail your Wilgy read because I really can't lose to you pocketing Wilgy and taking him to endgame behind an actually entirely made up tell. I don't need the exacts but I need more confidence that it's not entirely fabricated TMI.

We don't have to burn her at the stake Rondo. Just ask her for her mindset and help her solve the last wolf. If she is town she will expose her mindset.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:00 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:57 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:47 pm Lucy you are my POE. You aren't in it. You are it.

I can see Lucy going for you night one and not doc dodging

I can see Lucy bailing on Tommy early and setting up a difference check of he said/she said

I can see that lucy did not vote day 2 when the choice was Ender or Porcha. Inaction is an action and an action that looks scummy here.

Spoiler: show

I can see Lucy knowing that I am a spaz chaos clusterfuck and not believing I am doc and shooting Sabi instead

However it could be conf-biasing off Mac

No shield from me

ignore all of that, am I dumb enough to fall into such a scenario while doing nothing about it?

This kind of logic does nothing for me. Even the best of the best sometimes make mistakes and get into situations they didn't intend.

no it's for post game lol, I'm dead now

Lol cheeky post. Explain why you said this.

cause I can never defend myself in this scenario with my sin

You can be townie and help us solve the game and find the last wolf. Something you've made little effort to do in the last few phases tbh.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:57 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:47 pm Lucy you are my POE. You aren't in it. You are it.

I can see Lucy going for you night one and not doc dodging

I can see Lucy bailing on Tommy early and setting up a difference check of he said/she said

I can see that lucy did not vote day 2 when the choice was Ender or Porcha. Inaction is an action and an action that looks scummy here.

Spoiler: show

I can see Lucy knowing that I am a spaz chaos clusterfuck and not believing I am doc and shooting Sabi instead

However it could be conf-biasing off Mac

No shield from me

ignore all of that, am I dumb enough to fall into such a scenario while doing nothing about it?

This kind of logic does nothing for me. Even the best of the best sometimes make mistakes and get into situations they didn't intend.

no it's for post game lol, I'm dead now

Lol cheeky post. Explain why you said this.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:55 pm Oh if that's the case it's less bad for Lucy yeah but I still think she actually has scum slipped earlier in the game now that she isn't doc.

no, this is what I'm referring to what you're thinking about

Yeah well the fact that you immediately went on the defensive over it says to me that you know you're guilty.

Oh if that's the case it's less bad for Lucy yeah but I still think she actually has scum slipped earlier in the game now that she isn't doc.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:47 pm Lucy you are my POE. You aren't in it. You are it.

then I don't understand ur read on me

I know the scum slip you speak of.

I am not reaction testing you.

If I was you would have failed the reaction test by outright demonstrating that you are aware that you scum slipped. I don't believe a town would be so conscious of a non slip to bring it up the way you just did.

Lucy you are my POE. You aren't in it. You are it.

How could you be conscious of a slip you never made? Lol.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:21 pm @MacDougall who do u think is doc

Rondo hasn't been counterclaimed so I have no reason to suspect it's anyone other than him because at this point he is literally the wolf or the doctor, so the doctor is throwing by not counterclaiming him. I have no idea why Dyslexicon is convinced that he isn't the doc when the real doc (if it were Nanook) would simply have counterclaimed and killed him right now. The doctor hiding at this point is strictly dumb if so.

I guess the mafia just thought they were being duped by Rondo and shot Sabi because of that, which is just really bad play cuz Sabi strictly dropped her claim in a situation where if she was real doc, she never would have cuz we forced Rondo to HC never rescind by punishment of death, so a doc Sabi there would have had a veritable red on him. Ergo the wolf is dumb or not really paying attention (somehow).

Anyway if the real doc does now counterclaim Rondo, I am going to preface this by saying real doc u dumb.

My POE right now is Lucy and Lucy.

This is a strange gamestate and we need a mass claim now imo.

It never makes sense to chop Wilgy tbh. Nanook is either town with a godread or mafia with TMI. Wilgy is an objectively bad chop through Nanook.

Can Nanook be wrong? Yes 1 in 6 times.

It's bad probability play. Either Nanook is a wolf with TMI or his read should be acknowledged. Anyone suspicious of Wilgy and not Nanook would need to have a seriously strong argument for why Nanook is wrong.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:15 am I had a thought this morning. What are people’s non-Tommy related thoughts on Rondo? What is to say that Tommy just didn’t know or remembered Rondo’s name even if they were teammates. He was completely new to the site and barely posting

I remember Rondo being weird about voting Porscha on D1. Will check that later after work unless someone else feels compelled

Fair thought but Rondo is the doc uncounterclaimed lol.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:44 am Myself > Achro for meme potential > Wilgy because they're wolf > Lucy if wilgy isn't wolf > Vulgard for running out of options

There's your winning POE including my blood.

I'd be fine with Wilgy going first if not for wanting to test Nanook's read.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:33 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:11 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:52 pm do we have four chops?

if so

achro
ender
Wilgy
Nook

should win the game...

We have 5

I'm somewhat surprised you don't seem to care about my wilgy read/don't TR him yourself

I do care about it. This list is a POE not a scumlist. I have everyone not on it clear. You should be clear too but if the rest of these flip town I'd probably have some reservations if you were alive still. My real POE are the other three names, Achro and Ender I would chop before Wilgy.

I suppose I can live with it, poe is big enough to accommodate

I guess j should also figure out a real lucy read now that she's not the doc. Sounds like a tomorrow job.

Why do you have diz cleared?

several posts on day 1 with Porscha and Tommy at the bottom of their readslist before anyone was making it so they needed to be thinking about distancing

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:43 am [VOTE: ssf ] aubergine

Vulgard wasn't townie enough for you?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:23 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:12 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:24 pm I wish for the poe to be me and everyone I have cased and been told I am crazy for casing. Ty

Is that not exactly what my POE was?

You missed dizzy but you also thought we had one less lynch.

Also I was meming. A little.

How can you even humour that Dizzy is mafia? Did you not see their posts?!

Well if it is none of those listed then this thread is going to be a dark place lol.

I saw your poe and it was missing one of my own poe from throughout the game regardless of if it had any basis in reality you see.

So I can't.

How can you even humour that Dizzy is mafia? Did you not see their posts?!

Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:12 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:24 pm I wish for the poe to be me and everyone I have cased and been told I am crazy for casing. Ty

Is that not exactly what my POE was?

You missed dizzy but you also thought we had one less lynch.

Also I was meming. A little.

How can you even humour that Dizzy is mafia? Did you not see their posts?!

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:24 pm I wish for the poe to be me and everyone I have cased and been told I am crazy for casing. Ty

Is that not exactly what my POE was?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:19 pm If I die, look into dizzy. Stop ignoring her. Don't let her big toe pocket you

I did look into and ISO Dizzy and Dizzy is as clear as fuck.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:52 pm do we have four chops?

if so

achro
ender
Wilgy
Nook

should win the game...

We have 5

I'm somewhat surprised you don't seem to care about my wilgy read/don't TR him yourself

I do care about it. This list is a POE not a scumlist. I have everyone not on it clear. You should be clear too but if the rest of these flip town I'd probably have some reservations if you were alive still. My real POE are the other three names, Achro and Ender I would chop before Wilgy.

do we have four chops?

if so

achro
ender
Wilgy
Nook

should win the game...

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:11 pm Mac is fun to play with, he's distracting

Sexy, the word is sexy.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:48 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 pm

I hate to use it but I'll point out Mac's self-admitted case of constantly wolf-reading me even when I'm town.

Is this where you admit I can read you and have caught you loads of times and you use this argument every time you're mafia?

Are you really going to force me to find all the times I use it as town to just shut this point up?

You also see me use it as mafia Because I use it as town nearly every game.

You ignore the fact that results indicate I can read you. I scumread you by default as part of the process but generally if I'm still scumreading you at this stage of the game I'm right about it. Context matters.

Lmao.

Why is that funny?

Because I disagree that it indicates you can read me. You are someone I worry about as wolf because I near guarantee you'll find a way to sus me. Not because you catch me, but because "Mac susses Ender" is a fact of life if you and I are alive past D1. And sometimes even on D1.

I factor this in every time I'm town with you too.

I can't guarantee I'm 100% correct because this is memory and memory is subjective and I'd have to trawl through multiple games to see if you do actually wean yourself off it when we're both town but memory says you rarely end up townreading me no matter what my alignment is.

You have this impression because I'm often dead before I have a chance to reeval. But how many times have you been town in a game where I was town and I caused your mischop?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:52 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:47 pm I am actually really okay with being called scum as town because it is novel for me and it gives me a chance to practice being on the backfoot for when I am scum.

Now other things that sometimes go along with being pushed grate me, but suspicion is oft a compliment.

I find that people who suspect me are >rand mafia and dunking on wolves is enjoyable to me so I often find myself being mean to people who suspect me because the idea of wolves flailing about trying to get town Mac over amuses me and inspires me to mock.

But then when it's a town doing it they get upset because it hurts being mocked when you're trying hard and earnestly and doesn't really hurt being mocked when you're being a lame wolf.

I actually have a pretty good flow chart for reaction reading how people deal with my snarky reactions to being sussed. A lot of my skill in mafia stems from having expectations for how people deal with the things I do and forcing myself into prominence so people have no choice but to have to. I'm like a mafia tsunami lol.

I am just a level -1 goober

I have a pretty simple process.

I have crafted a strong instinctive early game by identifying inauthentic/authentic openers and initial actions. This means my immediate reads are a little bit better than rand.

I then push them hard and see how people react to it. I have expectations well defined for how wolves and town generally deal with things such as me shielding bad town, pushing directly at them, townreading a wolf etc. I push around for a while with confidence (real not fake because of the aforementioned) before creating my first gamestate read which usually has some sudden reeval that causes wolves to reel and act like I'm being sus for reeval which is a very common micro tactic that helps me conf bias or find wolves.

I've built the mafia god persona because it's funny and charismatic and makes people want to follow me so I get the kills I want.

Then I continue the process over and over again until the wolves are dead, I die, or occasionally I encounter a wolf team that has experience dealing with me and know how to subvert my expectations without running afoul of the rest of the town in the process.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:53 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:51 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:49 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:48 pm All the steps I have taken to unlearn from being toxic is going to be undone because games are resuming on my homesite on Monday so I hope I don't regress back to sabi the bitch

my sincere advice: don't play if they remain that way

I reformed my homesite through fire and blood and it worked out

Unfortunately due to my temp ban, I only have limited avenues for mafia game. I hopefully won't regress but I also miss telling people to fuck off and to choke on a cactus without getting in trouble?

If you're used to playing this way why did me saying you eat garbage upset you lol.

No one is allowed to insult me except myself

But bin eating is so absurd lol.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:51 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:49 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:48 pm All the steps I have taken to unlearn from being toxic is going to be undone because games are resuming on my homesite on Monday so I hope I don't regress back to sabi the bitch

my sincere advice: don't play if they remain that way

I reformed my homesite through fire and blood and it worked out

Unfortunately due to my temp ban, I only have limited avenues for mafia game. I hopefully won't regress but I also miss telling people to fuck off and to choke on a cactus without getting in trouble?

If you're used to playing this way why did me saying you eat garbage upset you lol.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:47 pm I am actually really okay with being called scum as town because it is novel for me and it gives me a chance to practice being on the backfoot for when I am scum.

Now other things that sometimes go along with being pushed grate me, but suspicion is oft a compliment.

I find that people who suspect me are >rand mafia and dunking on wolves is enjoyable to me so I often find myself being mean to people who suspect me because the idea of wolves flailing about trying to get town Mac over amuses me and inspires me to mock.

But then when it's a town doing it they get upset because it hurts being mocked when you're trying hard and earnestly and doesn't really hurt being mocked when you're being a lame wolf.

I actually have a pretty good flow chart for reaction reading how people deal with my snarky reactions to being sussed. A lot of my skill in mafia stems from having expectations for how people deal with the things I do and forcing myself into prominence so people have no choice but to have to. I'm like a mafia tsunami lol.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:24 pm I'm not confident it's ender

Same but he is a blind spot for me so having Mac evaluate him I am just going to trust

I hate to use it but I'll point out Mac's self-admitted case of constantly wolf-reading me even when I'm town.

Is this where you admit I can read you and have caught you loads of times and you use this argument every time you're mafia?

Are you really going to force me to find all the times I use it as town to just shut this point up?

You also see me use it as mafia Because I use it as town nearly every game.

You ignore the fact that results indicate I can read you. I scumread you by default as part of the process but generally if I'm still scumreading you at this stage of the game I'm right about it. Context matters.

Lmao.

Why is that funny?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:44 pm I probably should get better at being pushed now I'm looking at myself.

I think most people struggle with this. It isn't logical but humans aren't.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:36 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pm Sabi upset at someone who she's been teasing and insulting all game for no reason because he said they eat out of bins.

You ignored me hard shielding you and defending you but go off.

Also how do you fuck up my pronouns lol

Because I'm a 35 year old cis white male.

fucking mood I feel terrible when I mess up lol

I have a non binary child. It is hard to go from Audrey my daughter I call she her for 10 years to Asher my child I call they them. It doesn't change the love at all it's just difficult to break the habits. Sabi is just feminine to me and I didn't realise they were they/them until 10 minutes ago.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:39 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm Look, honestly I don't care, I feel like I should actually be clearable today based on how I treated both partners and EOD2 but if Mac can't keep it in his pants just literally follow up by voting out Wilgy and I'm good.

See I hated your day 1 but I know that you could just have been [REDACTED]

Your day 2 was stronger but you had to selfpres Porcha

If you really did suspect me of being doc its a clear but there is no way to verify that information

I didn't think you were doc, I thought it was Sabi.

That's obvious if you read my D2 and I mystery clear Sabi for ? reasons and put down "Reasons.tm"

So you've never just townread someone for mystery reasons you couldn't be bothered explaining?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:39 pm Mac in still relatively new to mafia esp since my homesite everyone plays emotionally. I only stopped playing there since May so I'm still learning how the rest of the mafia world plays.

Fair enough. I will be more patient.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pmMac hates me

I don't hate you. I like you. I don't like playing mafia with you very much though that's true. Your playstyle irritates me and your bias to ate moments and my uncaring playstyle cause us both to get annoyed with one another. Perhaps because we are friends we should seek to moderate ourselves a little bit when we see each other in games moving forward to protect one another from our sensibilities.

But I don't ate on purpose. I just play emotionally, as Nook said. I apologize for it but I havent figured out how to not get frustrated when I'm sr as town.

I can tolerate ate but you personally attack me when you get upset and that's something I'm sure you can resolve by just recognising its not healthy to type those words and hit the submit button.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:24 pm I'm not confident it's ender

Same but he is a blind spot for me so having Mac evaluate him I am just going to trust

I hate to use it but I'll point out Mac's self-admitted case of constantly wolf-reading me even when I'm town.

Is this where you admit I can read you and have caught you loads of times and you use this argument every time you're mafia?

Are you really going to force me to find all the times I use it as town to just shut this point up?

You also see me use it as mafia Because I use it as town nearly every game.

You ignore the fact that results indicate I can read you. I scumread you by default as part of the process but generally if I'm still scumreading you at this stage of the game I'm right about it. Context matters.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm Look, honestly I don't care, I feel like I should actually be clearable today based on how I treated both partners and EOD2 but if Mac can't keep it in his pants just literally follow up by voting out Wilgy and I'm good.

I don't like how these moments always end up with players pressuring me to be right and being mad at me. Isn't this a team game? It's stressful being spoken to this way.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pm Sabi upset at someone who she's been teasing and insulting all game for no reason because he said they eat out of bins.

You ignored me hard shielding you and defending you but go off.

Also how do you fuck up my pronouns lol

Because I'm a 35 year old cis white male.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:33 pmMac hates me

I don't hate you. I like you. I don't like playing mafia with you very much though that's true. Your playstyle irritates me and your bias to ate moments and my uncaring playstyle cause us both to get annoyed with one another. Perhaps because we are friends we should seek to moderate ourselves a little bit when we see each other in games moving forward to protect one another from our sensibilities.

Sabi upset at someone who she's been teasing and insulting all game for no reason because he said they eat out of bins.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pm Here have a betting line

5/1 - Ender, Achro
6/1 - DrWilgy
9/1 - Lucy
12/1 - Sabi, Vivax
15/1 - Vulgard
20/1 - Seanzie, Nanook, Dyslexicon
100/1 - Rondo

Feel free to throw me some cash.

5 bucks on Rondo. I cant say no to those odds

Hold up lol.