The Syndicate

I also think that big wall by HK is excessively scummy.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:07 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I don't really think syn is mafia tbh this would be a fairly bizarre line if he is, he's probably just town fucking around

I kinda like this vote.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:05 pm Mac's read progression on Nanook is also a bad look, particularly how he somehow forgets his D1 town read on him (?).

Given that Mac and Nook clearly know each other well, I would expect town-Mac to have a reasonably strong stance on Nanook as a player in particular out of his D1 reads list. I think him not retaining that read is wolfy.

I don't have an issue with Mac's read on Nanook changing here, I have the issue with Mac completely disregarding / being forgetful of his D1 read on a player he clearly knows very well coming into D2. I think it shows a clear lack of thought going into Mac trying to read Nanook which is the opposite of what I would expect from a player who not only seems to know him pretty well but has a reputation for having good (and presumably thoughtful as a result) reads as town.

Like don't get me wrong maybe town-Mac chose to actively sideline his read on Nanook because he was low posting? But that still seems weird to me, given that it's still presumably a player Mac knows very well and it feels like some effort must have been made to read Nook on D1 given Mac didn't have Nook as null.

I forget my reads all the time. Especially when I multitable. If anything I forget them more when I am town.

okay gavial

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:32 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:28 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:18 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:13 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:02 am How is that anywhere close to a defense?
Why can't you or hollowkat figure out what a defense or hard defense is?
Love the backhanded insults you seem to enjoy throwing around, makes me really enjoy playing with you
How is that anywhere close to an insult? I asked you how deli hard defended like 10 times and you couldn't answer. So I think both of you are just throwing things at wall otherwise you would make more sense right? It's scummy to be dishonest and it scummy to not be able to explain reads also.
So once again how is either of those posts a hard defense and the other a defense of me?
So do something about it then. Don't sit there throwing shade, back it up with a case and a vote or all you're doing is blowing smoke up my ass
Whats wrong with throwing sus on players? I can't vote all the wolves at once buddy

the irony

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:08 am Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.

in fact my opinion didn't change at all

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:07 am What you have to be aware of is that Joseph (mac) is a huge drama queen

wtf don't side against me

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:59 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:41 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:31 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:24 am

Sorry I hurt your ego, but not really
how do you figure you did that?
I would say someone has an ego when it comes to their reads when their first instinct is to instantly vote the person who claims their reads are bad.
Also "Who the fuck is this person." Shows me even questioning you upset you. You're reads are bad but I think it's on purpose, therefor you are a wolf and me calling you out hurt your ego. Sorry!
so I'm angry cuz my reads are bad?

but I'm also mafia?
I think you're just angry that you made it so obvious you're wolf. So are you gonna vote me or what LOL
I would vote you if I was convinced you're just not a negative utility townie.
But you literally just said I couldn't be town. What changed exactly

my opinion

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:41 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:31 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:15 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:13 am

Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing
You remind me of a YouTube commenter.
Sorry I hurt your ego, but not really
how do you figure you did that?
I would say someone has an ego when it comes to their reads when their first instinct is to instantly vote the person who claims their reads are bad.
Also "Who the fuck is this person." Shows me even questioning you upset you. You're reads are bad but I think it's on purpose, therefor you are a wolf and me calling you out hurt your ego. Sorry!
so I'm angry cuz my reads are bad?

but I'm also mafia?
Yeah it’s called making terrible reads as mafia.
Your good at it!

Why are you defending Kami?

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:41 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:31 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:15 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:13 am

Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing
You remind me of a YouTube commenter.
Sorry I hurt your ego, but not really
how do you figure you did that?
I would say someone has an ego when it comes to their reads when their first instinct is to instantly vote the person who claims their reads are bad.
Also "Who the fuck is this person." Shows me even questioning you upset you. You're reads are bad but I think it's on purpose, therefor you are a wolf and me calling you out hurt your ego. Sorry!
so I'm angry cuz my reads are bad?

but I'm also mafia?
I think you're just angry that you made it so obvious you're wolf. So are you gonna vote me or what LOL

I would vote you if I was convinced you're just not a negative utility townie.

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:31 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:15 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:08 am Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.
Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing
You remind me of a YouTube commenter.
Sorry I hurt your ego, but not really
how do you figure you did that?
I would say someone has an ego when it comes to their reads when their first instinct is to instantly vote the person who claims their reads are bad.
Also "Who the fuck is this person." Shows me even questioning you upset you. You're reads are bad but I think it's on purpose, therefor you are a wolf and me calling you out hurt your ego. Sorry!

so I'm angry cuz my reads are bad?

but I'm also mafia?

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:15 am
Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:08 am Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.
Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing
You remind me of a YouTube commenter.
Sorry I hurt your ego, but not really

how do you figure you did that?

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:08 am Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.
Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing

You remind me of a YouTube commenter.

Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:00 am
Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:53 pm You omgus vote me seems about right for someone who takes a wolf read personally LOL
dude shut up lol
Why are you so salty about getting caught wolfing

It's the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

still think HK is just town with good reads tbh

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:35 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:05 pm oh yeah,

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine mafia
You like Mac's reads, and they make sense...he has me as Town, how does this figure into your voting?

If Falcon is mafia this post clears me.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:54 pmMac prob wolf

ok.gif

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:53 pm You omgus vote me seems about right for someone who takes a wolf read personally LOL

dude shut up lol

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:26 pm I saw a post that happened to be hk that seemed wolfy. I said it was.

Gavial is different here to what I'm used to.

Nanook seems different here too.

I don't care about Kami. Kami can go off.

Please do say more.

more

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:42 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:40 pm Can't believe you protected wiml and landed a save. Lmao.
I land saves every time I'm the doctor
But wiml was totally choppable.
Top poster. Scum read falcon. Directed town EoD.

Im not criticising your move. It clearly was smart. I am criticising the choice for the Mafia to shoot him.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:40 pm Can't believe you protected wiml and landed a save. Lmao.
I land saves every time I'm the doctor

But wiml was totally choppable.

Can't believe you protected wiml and landed a save. Lmao.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:47 pm How is my vote now Kami? Is it on a wolfy person now?
You must be open wolfing because you voted in the poll and not in thread like your suppose to be doing.

How does this equate to open wolfing?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:22 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:01 pm Esooa: hardclaims doc with a protections on Wiml

Syn: calls esooa a liar with nothing to back it up.

This makes for an easy vote.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I'm still curious to see if anything else comes of this. I thought Syn was a PR on Day 1 (and it's still possible he is). But his behavior has made me feel worse about him. I'm sheeping the person who claimed for now.
Esooa fake claims random things all the time. Syn also doesn't filter his thoughts when he's town.
literally when
You fake claim wolf in nearly every town game you play
LMfao bruh that's not the same

pretty sure the last time I fake claimed was like, when I claimed masons with marluxion fhdisjdbdndnsisi I think we know why that was the last time

It's the same for the purpose I am referring to. You're weird and do weird things.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:22 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:01 pm Esooa: hardclaims doc with a protections on Wiml

Syn: calls esooa a liar with nothing to back it up.

This makes for an easy vote.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I'm still curious to see if anything else comes of this. I thought Syn was a PR on Day 1 (and it's still possible he is). But his behavior has made me feel worse about him. I'm sheeping the person who claimed for now.
Esooa fake claims random things all the time. Syn also doesn't filter his thoughts when he's town.
literally when

You fake claim wolf in nearly every town game you play

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:01 pm Esooa: hardclaims doc with a protections on Wiml

Syn: calls esooa a liar with nothing to back it up.

This makes for an easy vote.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I'm still curious to see if anything else comes of this. I thought Syn was a PR on Day 1 (and it's still possible he is). But his behavior has made me feel worse about him. I'm sheeping the person who claimed for now.

Esooa fake claims random things all the time. Syn also doesn't filter his thoughts when he's town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:43 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:26 pm I saw a post that happened to be hk that seemed wolfy. I said it was.

Gavial is different here to what I'm used to.

Nanook seems different here too.

I don't care about Kami. Kami can go off.
okay

I think gavial is trying to be a better towny. I think that adequately explains the change in behavior for the most part, and I think his posts come across as genuinely trying to solve alignments, which I didn't really see at all in his wolf game. At best we come out of this with a null if you want to say we can't just go off wolf meta, because he's playing off-meta. I think based on this game alone he has been fine

sure, nanook can be voted. Though I think there are higher priorities

why did you town read Falcon. He's wolfy af and probably it's going to flip mafia EoD today tbh
Falcon seemed pretty much like Falcon to me at the point I made the read.
what do you think right now

I haven't read much since.

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:26 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:21 pm @MacDougall explain these and I'll unvote you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:27 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:02 pm I am enjoying myself
wolfy
why you call specifically this post wolfy and ignore the other (imo towny) things hk posted

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:39 pm I reckon gavial is mafia too eh
why

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:03 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
why

and why did you react to Kami that way I expected a stronger reaction tbh so it makes me feel like it's w/w
You think im wolf with him? the fuck LMAO
why do you hate me so much?
??? You gotta be kinda self centered if you think a wolf read means I hate you or is personal what so ever.
You're a wolf so I'm voting you that's it.

No its more just that you have been talking to me like a jerk but maybe that's how you make friends I guess.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:26 pm I saw a post that happened to be hk that seemed wolfy. I said it was.

Gavial is different here to what I'm used to.

Nanook seems different here too.

I don't care about Kami. Kami can go off.
okay

I think gavial is trying to be a better towny. I think that adequately explains the change in behavior for the most part, and I think his posts come across as genuinely trying to solve alignments, which I didn't really see at all in his wolf game. At best we come out of this with a null if you want to say we can't just go off wolf meta, because he's playing off-meta. I think based on this game alone he has been fine

sure, nanook can be voted. Though I think there are higher priorities

why did you town read Falcon. He's wolfy af and probably it's going to flip mafia EoD today tbh

Falcon seemed pretty much like Falcon to me at the point I made the read.

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:21 pm @MacDougall explain these and I'll unvote you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:27 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:02 pm I am enjoying myself
wolfy
why you call specifically this post wolfy and ignore the other (imo towny) things hk posted

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:39 pm I reckon gavial is mafia too eh
why

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:03 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
why

and why did you react to Kami that way I expected a stronger reaction tbh so it makes me feel like it's w/w
You think im wolf with him? the fuck LMAO

why do you hate me so much?

I saw a post that happened to be hk that seemed wolfy. I said it was.

Gavial is different here to what I'm used to.

Nanook seems different here too.

I don't care about Kami. Kami can go off.

I am sick and wrapped in a blanket. You will get what you get.

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:47 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:45 pm For a #mafiagod your reads have been really shit, and im not sheeping esooa but don't you kinda have to be a wolf if your reads are so bad?
[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine
Never have I seen such absurd TMI.
It's not TMI it's just the wolves(nanook and hollowcat) are obvious/struggling and frozen the past 2 days. Deli/wiml are obvious villagers, and the other guy flipped villager.

I was voting Nanook prior to you attacking me.

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:46 pm who the fuck is this person?
The actual mafiagod u fking noob LMAO

oh I see

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:45 pm For a #mafiagod your reads have been really shit, and im not sheeping esooa but don't you kinda have to be a wolf if your reads are so bad?
[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Never have I seen such absurd TMI.

How is my vote now Kami? Is it on a wolfy person now?

who the fuck is this person?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:45 pm [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine zzzzzzzzzz

nice openwolfing

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:03 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
If I recall correctly didn’t you TR Nanook?

I don't recall that. But if I did I have clearly changed my mind.

I reckon gavial is mafia too eh

I am syn's towncore.

alright daddy is here you can all shut up now

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:02 pm I am enjoying myself

wolfy

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[VOTE: ignoramus] aubergine

If you find my points reasonable that's a pretty good indicator to my alignment based on how I play both alignments btw.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:20 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:17 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:09 am I'm actually considering going Igno today because they made a weird comment about not always bussing
I'm probably more willing to go igno than falcon today. Falcon I need to look at again but I thought their entrance was towny. Although I'm going to look at both again later.

I also think that Mac misreading me like this is wolfy. He wolfread me for semantics reasons the only other time I played with Mac-wolf. He's only seen me play very passively and in that game treated me as an easy target he could push on without putting much attention on him (which worked for him that game).

I also want to add that I have never played at all well in a game with Mac so his sudden high reputation of my wolf game is completely from nowhere. From the games we have played, he should be severely underestimating me as a player, not the opposite.
his entrance was definitely not towny

Immediately finding 3 ppl town is actually towny for me tbh.

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