The Syndicate

Good game y'all. Twas fun!

Thanks Scotty for the host! and thank you Mods!

Town, I'm sorry I failed you. I take the blame for this one entirely.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:10 pm I knew Thunal is bad but I had no allies to push for her chop.

Who killed Sean?

I probably could've been convinced to join you on Thunal.

I kept thinking for several posts 'this seems like a lie' coming from the slot. I just didn't think to act on it until I needed to.

AAAAAGH I GOT THERE BUT TOO LATE

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:51 pm Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

You act like it's unwarranted

oh lmao, safe

Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:27 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

No

I know I'm just paranoid. I'm seeing no resistance to Mata going over, not even from Mata. Freaks me the fuck out.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:26 pm I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

I do wonder why she isn't breaking her postcap.

Could JD afford to potentially be blocked?

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:43 pm I can't tell if mata and Wilgy are literally the team and are wilfully misunderstanding mechanics to keep me as an option for yeeting...or if it's actually Michelle and Thunal and I'm pocketed and they're pushing against voting me because they're looking for a real misyeet

I now reiterate that I hate endgame

I mean, I just see the mech that makes you 3p as not nearly as sound as the mech that made me clear. It's very odd that there was so much questioning of the mechanics around me, but not the claim tomfoolery.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:02 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:41 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:16 pm Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

Ok, See I get that, but how do we know Dubz is a sin and not just JD?

We don't for sure. I think she is because it seems like the role in the setup is an every night thing just like Dubz claimed to have. Nobody else claimed the post restrictions or Nanook's block either.

Why would there be a need to cc that if you are Sloth and are expecting to swap teams?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:41 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:16 pm Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Right now there's either 3 civ 2 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 3 sin 1 mafia. If we eliminate Dubz, there's either 3 civ 1 sin 2 mafia or 3 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If Falcon dies from being in critical condition and is civ, it's 2 civ 1 sin 2 mafia (loss) or 2 civ 2 sin 1 mafia. If mafia NKs a civ in addition then the 1 mafia situation is also a loss since it would be 1 civ 2 sin 1 mafia.

So if we did eliminate Dubz we'd basically be betting on some civ deaths not happening. It's possible town could win if say, there's 1 mafia and Falcon doesn't die or if there's 1 mafia and Falcon or the NK isn't civ. But I don't want to risk it.

Ok, See I get that, but how do we know Dubz is a sin and not just JD?

I keep thinking I understand, but then realize I don't.

Am I dumb or something? Why is Dubz incorrect to yeet rn?

Game is hard. Everyone talk to me about SVS. I'm doubting that read now.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:25 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:24 pm DrWilgy 1 Voters: Michelle
Dubz 2 Voters: DrWilgy, Matahari
Matahari 2 Voters: Thunal33, falcon45ca

The VC now. After I said countless times that Dubz is not the today chop, she still has a wagon formed bt Matahari who is self pressing and Wilgy who idk why is still voting Dubz.

Think again!

explain it again, I am really tired, it's pat 10 pm for me

I was just making a joke. I've moved my vote to Mata as that's currently better than Dubz.

I am however, starting to doubt my svs read and am skimming that ISO once more.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:24 pm DrWilgy 1 Voters: Michelle
Dubz 2 Voters: DrWilgy, Matahari
Matahari 2 Voters: Thunal33, falcon45ca

The VC now. After I said countless times that Dubz is not the today chop, she still has a wagon formed bt Matahari who is self pressing and Wilgy who idk why is still voting Dubz.

Think again!

this is Porscha's vengeance made manifest

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:15 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:12 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:02 pm -

all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia

.

Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Hey ho, I'm here

Sup dood?

Not much, you?



I hear you're looking for just 1 other town...who's yout best guess?

I'm honestly not sure. Hard to sort between lost 3p, lost w, and lost t. If everyone is just independent here it's a matter of hunting for the sk and that's VERY much out of my skill set.

Also need to hope that the nk hits a lost sin.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:12 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:02 pm -

all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia

.

Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Hey ho, I'm here

Sup dood?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:10 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:08 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:06 pm how you said you convinced Sean you are town, Wilgy?

Hmm? Not sure I understand the question Michelle.

what have you done in your BTSC to convince Sean you are town?

We full role exchanged. I knew exactly what Seanzie's role did and they knew mine.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:06 pm how you said you convinced Sean you are town, Wilgy?

Hmm? Not sure I understand the question Michelle.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:41 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:38 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:56 pm Mata is never town, btw

My honest read and no one is pushing her either.
Mean while Falcon is voting me and is not even here to talk to me.

I don’t know what you mean here. I’ve only played in 3 or 4 games since anniversary game, and I was only wolf in one of them - LG+M, and I got called out the first day I was under difficult circumstances in that game, but if doesn’t change the fact that I suck worse at being bad than I do at being town. Once upon a time in the classic years, I did ok, but not the way ppl play now

Please tell me if I’m getting this right. If we get a sin today, and John Doe gets a sin tonight, then that is hopeful for town, correct? But if we miselim a virtue today, or JD gets a virtue tonight, then it’s at Lylo?

If Falcon's wounds remove him from the game somehow then this is lylo.

Thank you. If we eliminate a sin today, would that keep us out of Lylo, or maybe give us another day?

Depends on if there's 2 maf or 1.

If there's 2 we need to hit a maf aligned sin or JD, if there's 1 we need to hit a sin that may convert, maf aligned sin, or JD.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:38 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:56 pm Mata is never town, btw

My honest read and no one is pushing her either.
Mean while Falcon is voting me and is not even here to talk to me.

I don’t know what you mean here. I’ve only played in 3 or 4 games since anniversary game, and I was only wolf in one of them - LG+M, and I got called out the first day I was under difficult circumstances in that game, but if doesn’t change the fact that I suck worse at being bad than I do at being town. Once upon a time in the classic years, I did ok, but not the way ppl play now

Please tell me if I’m getting this right. If we get a sin today, and John Doe gets a sin tonight, then that is hopeful for town, correct? But if we miselim a virtue today, or JD gets a virtue tonight, then it’s at Lylo?

If Falcon's wounds remove him from the game somehow then this is lylo.

I wonder if 3rd party sins that can side with town could somehow make that a thing.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:15 pm I’ll be gone for a little bit but when I get back I’m reevaluating my PoE. If the game is easy I don’t think Michelle and Wilgy suddenly turn to “omg maybe Thunal is fooling us all!” unless they’re the exact team which I highly doubt. I’m getting tinfoiled because the game isn’t easy. I think I might be misclearing mafia.

So we've hit Lust, Pride, Greed, Wrath and still need to deal with JD, Envy, Sloth and Gluttony.

lol, I just realized I only need to solve 1 other town since there's 3 of us. and then I know where to yeet. Just a matter of shooting the correct sins/jd.

So tell me everyone, why are you the last town lmao?

Going to eat lunch and then I'll ponder on the game some more.

I think I'm between Mata and Thunal rn and then crossing my fingies that a virtue doesn't flip.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:44 am Further if there was any risk of Seanzie figuring out I was wolf by being in BTSC with them, why wouldn't have I just pulled the trigger asap?

Nothing makes sense if you think I was the one who shot Seanzie.

Atp I’m pretty confident you didn’t shoot Seanzie. My paranoia was that you were bad and didn’t shoot Seanzie because of the difference in how you reacted to the idea that you did.

I mean, this argument could be also applied to a town who didn't shoot Seanzie in equal measure.

The weight of the argument would have to be 'look at how opportunistic' Wilgy was otherwise the argument just as easily is 'T or W wilgy didn't shoot Seanzie', and I didn't feel that from what you were saying.

If I'm wolf, was I being opportunistic to claim a clear that I had no Idea I was going to get? Do you really think I fooled Seanzie into outright saying that I was clear?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:53 pm I’m definitely not posting the minimum possible either. I’ve posted a whole lot this game including little out of the box observations I’d have a really hard time faking.

I know you can power wolf, do you have anything this game that you think sets you apart from how you played in Solar System Mafia specifically? That's what I thought to be the most recent reference to you being a scummuffin.

Gut feelings from today and how I've been approached:

Michelle, Thunal, and Mata have all expressed how the BTSC clear for me with Seanzie shouldn't be as hard as we once made it to be.

However, I think Michelle was the only one of these that expressed it in a way that was Pro Town, or at least trying to shore up some arguments that may lead to a town mistake.

the more I look at how Thunal and Mata approached me, it just appears that they were attempting to open up the PoE to more players, where Michelle was trying to encourage me to solve more.

I keep rereading the exchange between Dubz/Mata/Thunal about Dubz's role and I can't seem to understand it. Can someone draw a picture for me?

Pondering something.

So we are assuming Slot is Dubz yes? (can someone iterate why this mechanically exists?)

Slot doesn't gain BTSC until a full phase after the last virtue is yeeted. I wonder how this affects parity. Wolves who don't know each other can't control the vote even if it's 2T-2W for example.

Lets look for some legacy data:

Rondo had voted Wilgy and was theorizing SVS/Wilgy.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:02 pm reworking a world in my head where Mata/Michelle/Thunal/Dubz are all town. Does it make sense for Wilgy/svs/nook/falcon?

Was content voting Dubz

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:24 am [VOTE: Dubz ] aubergine happy with both wagons atm

Nook's legacy:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:18 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:18 pm I don't have a full solve but I'd kill dubz, maybe Michelle, undecided on thun, would not kill rondo or falcon

Closest to a legacy I have soz

Roxy had a tinfoil on both Thunal and I.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.

Jack's legacy looks like it had Michelle and I SR'd with Thunal a TR

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:16 pm 8 vs 6 (ish)

Jack
Mac
Rondo
Thunal

Roxy
Falcon

Dubz
Mata
SVS
Epi

Michelle
Wilgy
Nook - mac says give him another chance

Dennis - mechanically outted

I'm finding that alot of Mac's final thoughts were about who was town mostly. Most of these players are deceased. Sadness.

Seanzie's legacy of 'Nook, Falcon, Epi, Roxy' appears to be antiquated at this point. However, It does appear that Seanzie was questioning Thuna prior to death:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:49 pm Mac or Thunal...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:51 pm Mac or dennis or Thumal

Zenon's legacy appears to be dated.

Tutuu's legacy appears to contain still Me, THunal, and Falcon of living players:

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:53 am i suppose my poe sans kate and dennis is

wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

DOOM appeared to have a very correct and strong towncore. The only relevant data I found regarding still living players was here:

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:06 pm I've flipped my Michelle read to town'

and I have a prediction, tutu will flip town and I will have no way to defend them because I find their posting scummy

Poor Porscha. They deserved better. However the only thing within the legacy I see here, and this one is interesting as it's more than just echoing town:

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:36 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:01 pm The best I can say in defense of Porscha and to Zenon's point, is that town Porscha does sometimes take a while to show herself. I have found myself scumreading town Porscha for similar games before but then suddenly Porscha just shows up and it's like okay there she is my bad and I close the book.

That it hasn't happened and we are 1 hour prior to eod1 makes it highly unlikely to happen. Zenon is right that town Porscha can have these games sometimes, but there is too much in common with her common wolf game and nothing like her common town game as it stands, and to say that "yeah she looks like wolf Porscha and not like town Porscha but she can still be town Porscha" is a far too generous argument.

This is why I haven't had much of a read on Porscha - I know I was able to push her as mafia in Solar System for "not being obvious town" and she took awhile to show herself. I don't want to make the mistake of voting a town Porscha that would become obvious town if she had more time.

I love you so much rn

How do we feel about this interaction?

So this review was interesting, the big thing I noticed is the lack of data from T on Mata within their legacies and PoEs. Mata was consistently null or not mentioned.

This review did lead me to further think that my tonal read on SVS was correct though and should just be pulled from PoE. I think the only outlier to this was Rondo's speculations closer to EoD.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:08 pm Wait does queef mean something else in America? In Australia it just means like cooking or baking. Like the other day I queefed up a cake.

ಠ_ಠ

Further if there was any risk of Seanzie figuring out I was wolf by being in BTSC with them, why wouldn't have I just pulled the trigger asap?

Nothing makes sense if you think I was the one who shot Seanzie.

If I had a shot on Seanzie, and think I could fool them into clearing me, I 100% of the time wait to ensure that the clear is provided before pulling the trigger. Me pulling the trigger before hand makes no sense.

As a slanky wolf, my strategy would be to either play hard distance to clear my power wolf OR to ensure I have a false clear to get to endgame. Shooting Seanzie when Seanzie was shot would've prevented the latter, and I certainly haven't had an agenda for distancing this game. I haven't even provided reads until now.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:27 am I reread the Seanzie/Wilgy pages yesterday. The first time around, because I’m suspicious of everything, I thought Wilgy might just be opportunistic, but there were no CCs, so I accepted it. But on rereading, and thinking about how Seanzie plays, (he likes to trick people by saying something, but not meaning it, and then after he has them in conversation, he tells what he really thinks). Now I believe that Wilgy must have killed Seanzie. Even if Wilgy thought he had fooled Seanzie, it would be too risky to let Seanzie live. With Wilgy not posting until after Seanzie died, it just seems too much to ignore. My vote will most likely be on Wilgy today.
@Thunal33 when I saw the role on page one, I was in the process of putting it together with the things Dubz had said her abilities were. I’d like to think of her as potential town, but I don’t think the numbers add up for that. I’ll go back to pg. 1 and count up. If we are going for a sin, I would vote Dubz, but if we are aiming for JD, I will vote Wilgy.

This doesn't address that there's 0 way that I managed to submit a kill on Seanzie, and only simultaneously with death they pulled me from PoE. The theory that Seanzie died from another source and I got lucky makes more sense than this.

The world doesn't work like that. If your argument is 'the universe lined up perfectly for wilgy to be opportunistic' then you are willing to accept a weird stretch.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:23 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:20 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:05 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:14 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:44 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:24 pm @DrWilgy srsly curious. How can anyone on D 1 of *this* game have tmi?

Is this something to do specifically with THIS game? Because jokes on you if you think I've read the setup outside of the rules.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:45 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Rn this is my best guess.

I looked at this post a lot and in addition to the possibilities of Wilgy being scum with TMI or it being a fake derp, Wilgy could also be 3p who didn't know that there was only one wolf in the game and thought wolves would have TMI.



These quotes are here as examples of how Wilgy sort of has these disconnected thoughts and doesn't follow up on anything. So far his posts feel like trying to look busy rather than solving.

If this is busy work, then you don't know what busy work is my friend.

I'm just chillin till the thread slows down.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pm

Wouldn't that by definition mean you're reading the people you're sheeping

I suppose so, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why.

I'm sad Seanzie is gone, as they were who I sheeped last cycle and today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order

Dennis - outed scum

DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy

Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk

Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.

falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null

jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment

Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.

Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.

Michelle -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious

RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town

Roxy - towny

S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S

Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.

I'm not a sin silly, and I am playing. Just not in a way that's constructive at all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.

Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm

If I had to order the list it would probably be

Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun

In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.

To not after sharing data:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.

Considering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.

If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.

So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:21 pm Does someone care to iterate out the mechanical information we have before I start doing ISOs?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm Suppose it's ISO time if that's all the mech we have.

Seanzie's remaining 'let's get hereamajig' contains Falcon and Nook still. Everyone else is dead, so I guess I'll start there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:40 am Someone talk to me about Matahari

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Reading Wilgy's Iso I don't find much solving intent. He said he will do Isos but there's no proof he actually did it.
Also I thought the same, that the BTSC can't clear him because it's just a neighborhood

Agree with what Thunal said above.

I don't know if that puts Wilgy as JD or as a sin for me.
He called me silly for saying he's a sin. That's interesting in a way and gives him JD equity.

I believe I've been somewhat blatant about not solving this game.

I don't get it honestly. Too many variables. Too many things change. Plus the pace of the game left be behind early. The best I can do is trust the players that have left the game who seemed to understand it more than I who have flipped town.

Seanzie's BTSC I don't think could be any more clear cut in proving that they used it to find both Kate, Dennis, and my alignment. Also Seanzie I think was very specific in how they worded things and alignments. Removing me from the PoE was not a mistake when Seanzie went out of the way to iterate the percent chances of hitting sins in Dennis/Kate.

I know the BTSC existed. But why Wilgy from Vocaroo mafia and was town could make himself so clearly town and Wilfy in this game can't articulate few words?

You know town is in vey bad condition, not just Falcon, all three townies are, and all you do is sheeping and voting Dubz?

We chopped nook because he didn't care about the game and didn't care about being chopped, we lost Rondo who could clear someone and what is left is the possibility to read in mafia-esque way.

Please post your thoughts about everyone, you promised to be active once the game slows down

idk what explanation besides for 'this game has been difficult for me' is needed here. I've skimmed like 3 ISOs and plan on continuing that today, but not until I look to the guidance of my ancestors for data.

Dubz - Sin
Falcon - Green Town, unlikely convertable
Mata - Unknown, I've read only afew posts and haven't felt a presence here.
Michelle - I do not think to be a deep wolf, but I am questioning why alive
SVS - Tonal TR
Thunal - Somewhat the same

Simply put, today I need to figure out if Dubz has been recruited (idk if possible) and then sort my thoughts on you, Thunal and Mata. You and Thunal being the most difficult because of the iso quantity.

I think Dubz wasn't recruited to mafia unless there's a recruitment mechanic I don't know about. In her role it said she would be mafia if all the virtues died and there's still one virtue left.

So effectively, Dubz is a wildcard.

The only circumstance where this isn't lylo then is if there's 1 scum remaining and dubz is still purple after tomorrow.

If the last virtue is hit that's 2 wolves at a minimum.

If critical condition means Falcon were to die soon, and a NK still happens wolves win immediately if the last virtue dies.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:12 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:14 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:44 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:24 pm @DrWilgy srsly curious. How can anyone on D 1 of *this* game have tmi?

Is this something to do specifically with THIS game? Because jokes on you if you think I've read the setup outside of the rules.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:45 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Rn this is my best guess.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.

I looked at this post a lot and in addition to the possibilities of Wilgy being scum with TMI or it being a fake derp, Wilgy could also be 3p who didn't know that there was only one wolf in the game and thought wolves would have TMI.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am

ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:05 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:26 am

Tutuu is sus, Dennis is stiff as a board, Epi seems towny, Dubz seems towny, Kate seems towny, Thunal seems towny

Thank you. Can you express the gist of Mac as well?

These quotes are here as examples of how Wilgy sort of has these disconnected thoughts and doesn't follow up on anything. So far his posts feel like trying to look busy rather than solving.

If this is busy work, then you don't know what busy work is my friend.

I'm just chillin till the thread slows down.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

Wouldn't that by definition mean you're reading the people you're sheeping

I suppose so, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why.

I'm sad Seanzie is gone, as they were who I sheeped last cycle and today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order

Dennis - outed scum

DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy

Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk

Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.

falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null

jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment

Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.

Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.

Michelle -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious

RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town

Roxy - towny

S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S

Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.

I'm not a sin silly, and I am playing. Just not in a way that's constructive at all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.

Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:29 pm So who do people think John Doe is?

Nook, Thun, Jack, Wilgy, Falcon all deserve more scrutiny IMO. You might as well, but this is the first post I think I've seen of you, so I'm not actually qualified to say anything about you at this point.

If I had to order the list it would probably be

Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun

In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.

To not after sharing data:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:04 am Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.

Considering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.

If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.

So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:21 pm Does someone care to iterate out the mechanical information we have before I start doing ISOs?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm Suppose it's ISO time if that's all the mech we have.

Seanzie's remaining 'let's get hereamajig' contains Falcon and Nook still. Everyone else is dead, so I guess I'll start there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:40 am Someone talk to me about Matahari

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Reading Wilgy's Iso I don't find much solving intent. He said he will do Isos but there's no proof he actually did it.
Also I thought the same, that the BTSC can't clear him because it's just a neighborhood

Agree with what Thunal said above.

I don't know if that puts Wilgy as JD or as a sin for me.
He called me silly for saying he's a sin. That's interesting in a way and gives him JD equity.

I believe I've been somewhat blatant about not solving this game.

I don't get it honestly. Too many variables. Too many things change. Plus the pace of the game left be behind early. The best I can do is trust the players that have left the game who seemed to understand it more than I who have flipped town.

Seanzie's BTSC I don't think could be any more clear cut in proving that they used it to find both Kate, Dennis, and my alignment. Also Seanzie I think was very specific in how they worded things and alignments. Removing me from the PoE was not a mistake when Seanzie went out of the way to iterate the percent chances of hitting sins in Dennis/Kate.

Sean removed me from the PoE as well and as far as I know he didn't use an action on me. His "I am a super cop" thing and how he reacted to having a clear felt not entirely serious so I don't think it was a mechanical clear. I actually have a tinfoil that the clear was a reaction test since he made such a big deal about it. If you are town solving the game is the best way for me to find you.

My understanding is Seanzie was just a neighborhood role during the day that could JK their selected neighbor OR increase their vote weight.

Unless Seanzie lied about this to me, there wasn't a hard cop mechanic, but he'd use the BTSC to hard request alignment data that I'd say was very hard to dispute.

I assume Seanzie had 2 days of BTSC, so Kate in one where they discerned alignment and got a chain of data resulting further in Dennis yeet.

Then they BTSC'd with me and pulled me from PoE as I'm mostly just a town info role that can sometimes provide further benefit. Based on responses from Seanzie who I targeted D2 and Falcon D4 though, I didn't supply any additional shots.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:05 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:14 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:44 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:24 pm @DrWilgy srsly curious. How can anyone on D 1 of *this* game have tmi?

Is this something to do specifically with THIS game? Because jokes on you if you think I've read the setup outside of the rules.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:45 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Rn this is my best guess.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.

I looked at this post a lot and in addition to the possibilities of Wilgy being scum with TMI or it being a fake derp, Wilgy could also be 3p who didn't know that there was only one wolf in the game and thought wolves would have TMI.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am

ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:05 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:26 am

Tutuu is sus, Dennis is stiff as a board, Epi seems towny, Dubz seems towny, Kate seems towny, Thunal seems towny

Thank you. Can you express the gist of Mac as well?

These quotes are here as examples of how Wilgy sort of has these disconnected thoughts and doesn't follow up on anything. So far his posts feel like trying to look busy rather than solving.

If this is busy work, then you don't know what busy work is my friend.

I'm just chillin till the thread slows down.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

Wouldn't that by definition mean you're reading the people you're sheeping

I suppose so, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why.

I'm sad Seanzie is gone, as they were who I sheeped last cycle and today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order

Dennis - outed scum

DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy

Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk

Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.

falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null

jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment

Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.

Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.

Michelle -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious

RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town

Roxy - towny

S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S

Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.

I'm not a sin silly, and I am playing. Just not in a way that's constructive at all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.

Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:29 pm So who do people think John Doe is?

Nook, Thun, Jack, Wilgy, Falcon all deserve more scrutiny IMO. You might as well, but this is the first post I think I've seen of you, so I'm not actually qualified to say anything about you at this point.

If I had to order the list it would probably be

Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun

In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.

To not after sharing data:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:04 am Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.

Considering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.

If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.

So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:21 pm Does someone care to iterate out the mechanical information we have before I start doing ISOs?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm Suppose it's ISO time if that's all the mech we have.

Seanzie's remaining 'let's get hereamajig' contains Falcon and Nook still. Everyone else is dead, so I guess I'll start there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:40 am Someone talk to me about Matahari

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Reading Wilgy's Iso I don't find much solving intent. He said he will do Isos but there's no proof he actually did it.
Also I thought the same, that the BTSC can't clear him because it's just a neighborhood

Agree with what Thunal said above.

I don't know if that puts Wilgy as JD or as a sin for me.
He called me silly for saying he's a sin. That's interesting in a way and gives him JD equity.

I believe I've been somewhat blatant about not solving this game.

I don't get it honestly. Too many variables. Too many things change. Plus the pace of the game left be behind early. The best I can do is trust the players that have left the game who seemed to understand it more than I who have flipped town.

Seanzie's BTSC I don't think could be any more clear cut in proving that they used it to find both Kate, Dennis, and my alignment. Also Seanzie I think was very specific in how they worded things and alignments. Removing me from the PoE was not a mistake when Seanzie went out of the way to iterate the percent chances of hitting sins in Dennis/Kate.

I know the BTSC existed. But why Wilgy from Vocaroo mafia and was town could make himself so clearly town and Wilfy in this game can't articulate few words?

You know town is in vey bad condition, not just Falcon, all three townies are, and all you do is sheeping and voting Dubz?

We chopped nook because he didn't care about the game and didn't care about being chopped, we lost Rondo who could clear someone and what is left is the possibility to read in mafia-esque way.

Please post your thoughts about everyone, you promised to be active once the game slows down

idk what explanation besides for 'this game has been difficult for me' is needed here. I've skimmed like 3 ISOs and plan on continuing that today, but not until I look to the guidance of my ancestors for data.

Dubz - Sin
Falcon - Green Town, unlikely convertable
Mata - Unknown, I've read only afew posts and haven't felt a presence here.
Michelle - I do not think to be a deep wolf, but I am questioning why alive
SVS - Tonal TR
Thunal - Somewhat the same

Simply put, today I need to figure out if Dubz has been recruited (idk if possible) and then sort my thoughts on you, Thunal and Mata. You and Thunal being the most difficult because of the iso quantity.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:51 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:14 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:09 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:19 pm @falcon45ca do you know what it means to be in critical condition?

Further, are you an info role?

I know you are town, but expected you to be an info role thus I was somewhat waiting to see if you'd have cracked the game. If you are an info role and have a night action, something that helps you should've occurred last night.

It's my first time being in critical condition, I haven't the foggiest what it means.



And I haven't learned anything this entire game that can help town at this stage right now.

Sad.

Did the effect of my day action actually do anything for you?

What was your day action?



To the best of my knowledge, I've not benefitted from anything

Damn, it should've given you an additional night action last night.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:09 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:19 pm @falcon45ca do you know what it means to be in critical condition?

Further, are you an info role?

I know you are town, but expected you to be an info role thus I was somewhat waiting to see if you'd have cracked the game. If you are an info role and have a night action, something that helps you should've occurred last night.

It's my first time being in critical condition, I haven't the foggiest what it means.



And I haven't learned anything this entire game that can help town at this stage right now.

Sad.

Did the effect of my day action actually do anything for you?

@falcon45ca do you know what it means to be in critical condition?

Further, are you an info role?

I know you are town, but expected you to be an info role thus I was somewhat waiting to see if you'd have cracked the game. If you are an info role and have a night action, something that helps you should've occurred last night.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:44 pm

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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:24 pm @DrWilgy srsly curious. How can anyone on D 1 of *this* game have tmi?

Is this something to do specifically with THIS game? Because jokes on you if you think I've read the setup outside of the rules.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:45 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Rn this is my best guess.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.

I looked at this post a lot and in addition to the possibilities of Wilgy being scum with TMI or it being a fake derp, Wilgy could also be 3p who didn't know that there was only one wolf in the game and thought wolves would have TMI.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:49 am Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.

ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:05 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:26 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

Tutuu is sus, Dennis is stiff as a board, Epi seems towny, Dubz seems towny, Kate seems towny, Thunal seems towny

Thank you. Can you express the gist of Mac as well?

These quotes are here as examples of how Wilgy sort of has these disconnected thoughts and doesn't follow up on anything. So far his posts feel like trying to look busy rather than solving.

If this is busy work, then you don't know what busy work is my friend.

I'm just chillin till the thread slows down.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

do you have any reads to share with the class?

Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

Wouldn't that by definition mean you're reading the people you're sheeping

I suppose so, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why.

I'm sad Seanzie is gone, as they were who I sheeped last cycle and today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order

Dennis - outed scum

DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy

Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk

Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.

falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null

jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment

Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.

Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.

Michelle -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious

RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town

Roxy - towny

S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S

Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.

I'm not a sin silly, and I am playing. Just not in a way that's constructive at all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.

Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:29 pm So who do people think John Doe is?

Nook, Thun, Jack, Wilgy, Falcon all deserve more scrutiny IMO. You might as well, but this is the first post I think I've seen of you, so I'm not actually qualified to say anything about you at this point.

If I had to order the list it would probably be

Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun

In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.

To not after sharing data:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:04 am Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.

Considering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.

If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.

So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:21 pm Does someone care to iterate out the mechanical information we have before I start doing ISOs?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm Suppose it's ISO time if that's all the mech we have.

Seanzie's remaining 'let's get hereamajig' contains Falcon and Nook still. Everyone else is dead, so I guess I'll start there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:40 am Someone talk to me about Matahari

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Reading Wilgy's Iso I don't find much solving intent. He said he will do Isos but there's no proof he actually did it.
Also I thought the same, that the BTSC can't clear him because it's just a neighborhood

Agree with what Thunal said above.

I don't know if that puts Wilgy as JD or as a sin for me.
He called me silly for saying he's a sin. That's interesting in a way and gives him JD equity.

I believe I've been somewhat blatant about not solving this game.

I don't get it honestly. Too many variables. Too many things change. Plus the pace of the game left be behind early. The best I can do is trust the players that have left the game who seemed to understand it more than I who have flipped town.

Seanzie's BTSC I don't think could be any more clear cut in proving that they used it to find both Kate, Dennis, and my alignment. Also Seanzie I think was very specific in how they worded things and alignments. Removing me from the PoE was not a mistake when Seanzie went out of the way to iterate the percent chances of hitting sins in Dennis/Kate.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:10 pm [VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

gm

Good morning Wilgy!
Explain pls.

Just a placeholder, wanna know what Falcon thinks rn.

I wouldn't put a RB claim as clearing personally.

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

gm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:00 pm But seriously Wilgy if you are throwing sus at me at this stage maybe I shouldnt trust you? Tell me you were just joking and ill ignore it but if you were being serious then I gotta do another re-eval of even you and SVS

I mean it was at first, but now you got me like

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Falcon flash wagon
[VOTE: Falcon ] aubergine

Uh oh, did teammate dubz get in yeetable range?

I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine