The Syndicate

Also I find myself growing more suspect of both Wisp and Gavi following Luckbox's death. Not sure why the lines pull me in that direction.

Also was going to swap off Lime Coke to Alison before they went and got themselves killed. Now that I'm voting with Alison, idk if that's just a hard bus on Wiggin or not.

Wiggin or Tess need to die, then the other to be resolved if not red.

Alison or Gaviel need to die, the. The other to be resolved if not red.

Falcon needs to continue being a cutie patootie.

Idk. I just think with me being wrong about Luckbox I've become discouraged.

Something is wrong with my hunting. I thought Wiggin was sus a cycle ago.

I don't see anyone claiming a proactive PR role in the manner between Wiggin and I with these numbers remaining.

Also seems odd that Wiggin and I just happen to be both town PR? It's more likely Wiggin just lied and this is all post claim spew that I'm only half reading.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:50 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:16 am
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:55 pm I bet nanook would town read me for this conversation if he was alive
Should've thought about that before you killed him.
So Tess is Maf in your eyes?

That was a yoke.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:49 am @falcon45ca
@Gira
@Mizery
@DrWilgy

You 4 signed up for this game!
Please participate more!

I don’t like to see 3 pages long of conversation with only 3 players.
Especially when 2 of them are 1v1 Thunderdome.

I wish to resolve the thunderdomes first though.

I still think it's Wiggin.

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:55 pm I bet nanook would town read me for this conversation if he was alive

Should've thought about that before you killed him.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:25 pm Mechanically speaking if a cop claims a guilty on someone and that person CCs cop then the CCer is most likely mafia.

I am leaning towards voting Ender here.

Yass

Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:15 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:14 pm and wilgy is the wolf all along
i'm telling you guys-

Shh. Hush hush now Mizery, it'll be ok. *Pat pat*

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:50 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:45 pm Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?
why are people asking me this
Because I'd like to know where the Wiggin vote is.
Nothing up my sleeve.

Guess it's in my butt

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:45 pm Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?
why are people asking me this

Because I'd like to know where the Wiggin vote is.

Tess, where's the Wiggin vote?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:12 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:34 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:27 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:26 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:24 pm mizery if you don't say who you think is a wolf I'm just going to assume you're one
I think I'm a wolf
I don't.
then who do you think is a wolf
You. :^)

And 2 of Gira/Wisp/Alison.

The rest I have reasons to townread.

But I still need to actually ISO for links. That happens after work tho, so not now.
I agree with this PoE for tomorrow.
@DrWilgy
Just to make sure maybe Track Falcon or Mizery just in case something is off here.

Bruh I'm getting RB'd or killed for sure.

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:04 pm my head hurts

probably not gonna read tonight

Feel better friend

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:58 pm Plus if your scum the night kill makes sense.

Plz no

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:34 pm Anyway, I gotta go get ready for work. Needed to put my claim out as soon as I woke up and saw this.

Goodnight dad.

Goodnight. I can now officially slank.

I may as well claim as well since that'll put the bullet between the tracker and the cop.

N1 Gavi didn't go anywhere
N2 Luckbox returned no result (likely because of their murder)

tessepia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:10 pm

I've got a difference between wilgy and ender

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine then

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:32 pm Oh yeah and I just want to say that if you care about threadstate reads at all, the constant bouncing back and forth between my wagon and LC's points away from us being T/T. It points less towards scum who are happy and contented that a town is dying today no matter what (unless the team is like... Mizery/Gira/Wilgy or something), and more towards genuine uncertainty and them torn being wanting to protect their buddy but not wanting to look bad.

I agree with this. I just don't know if it's you to LC. Trying to skim and catch-up rq.

I've been super busy. What's the cases and who keeps bouncing around Alison being in the lead/not?

Wha happen

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:45 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:41 pm why is Alison a wolf
She's literally claiming that I'm an outed wolf, NEVER STATES WHY I'M AN OUTED WOLF, literally just says "I'm sheeping Nanook who got night killed" and NOTHING ELSE, then proceeding to say I'm in anti-spew mode despite the fact that I've started to out reads and try to start solving which is an attempt to discredit EVERYTHING I SAY.

She literally fucking night killed Nanook just to say "Sheep his reads" to avoid responsibility when I flip town.

It's obviously a fucking plan, and you're allowing yourself to fall for it.

I'm going to tell you the exact same fucking thing you told me yesterday.

DO BETTER

I like your moxy.

I hope this clarifies.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:32 pm to elaborate: not even attempting to have a read on Alison and chalking her up entirely to LC's role, is wolfy.

I had a town read on Alison Day 1. I at the very least saw sense in what was being stated. Following the Dizzy yeet, the strength in that read has faded.

I have more of a W read on LC than Alison.

I do not see a world where LC and Alison are on a team. If LC who I scumread flips Wolf, then I would be able to reaffirm my town Alison read. If LC flips town, I would need to spend some serious time re reading the Alison ISO to see if Gavi is either insane or genius. I do believe Gavi believes what they say, this giving the suspicion of Alison some merit.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:07 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:04 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:02 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:01 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:00 pm Lime Coke is an outed wolf.
Ouch I thought you would've had me correct at the least.
You say that as if you know their alignment.
Might want to go back to scum chat and reword that statement.
Yes I'm TMI'ing her town and my wolf mates just pinged me asking me what the fuck I'm doing.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:04 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:02 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:01 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:00 pm Lime Coke is an outed wolf.
Ouch I thought you would've had me correct at the least.
You say that as if you know their alignment.
Might want to go back to scum chat and reword that statement.
He does in fact know my alignment and is TMI-ing me town, thank you for pointing that out.

GUYS! O.O

Are you guys looking at this!!!!

@DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
@Wisp
@Luckbox Inc

Seems like a legit TMI to me actually.

[VOTE: LimeCoke ] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:16 am @DrWilgy Thoughts on:

LC
Myself
Wisp

please

I'm behind 300 or so posts.

Wolfy.

Your alignment dependent on LC. Slowly being swayed by Gavi's honeyed words.

Perpetually doubtful that Wisp believes what they say but unsure.

@Lime Coke, @EnderWiggin and @Luckbox Inc, would you three be so kind and tell me of each other? How y'all read each other interests me.

tessepia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:10 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:08 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:54 pm also "who should I read" isn't even the same as "can I sheep you"

also you're comparing a day 5 sub in to a day 1 thing

and you're also saying I didn't do anything with it which was literally just a lie, I read wilgy and he's probably town

so ???
Your read of me. Is there substance to it that I missed?
I posted something in thread, don't know how much I explained, I was exhausted at the time so probably not much, and I'm not inclined to read your ISO again rn

so yeah

Interesting. Without context this feels off, but I will allow you some time. It's still early enough in the cycle.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:28 pm @DrWilgy
What was your reason for sheeping me again?

While I was more comfortable to vote along side you due to a town gut read, I would not say that I sheeped you just because we voted together.

My reason for voting Dizzy was that, in the moment, the momentum felt as if there were detractors from Dizzy's yeet. There wasn't enough Dizzy specific talk, especially compared to Mizzy. It was like seeing a still pool of water where you knew there shouldn't be one and that raised my suspicion moments before the thread locked.

tessepia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:54 pm also "who should I read" isn't even the same as "can I sheep you"

also you're comparing a day 5 sub in to a day 1 thing

and you're also saying I didn't do anything with it which was literally just a lie, I read wilgy and he's probably town

so ???

Your read of me. Is there substance to it that I missed?

I would like the general thoughts on Alison. I am thinking my town stance there may be weaker than yesterday.

I legitimately don't see how others see you as anything related to town.

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:35 pm my predictions for a NK were either myself/Alison/Ender or maybe Esooa.

Nanook I did not consider a possibility

And why does this matter?

What is your conclusion?

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:00 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now
I don't believe that this is wise.

Nook was wanted dead for a reason, was Nook right or wrong is a manipulatable WIFOM situation.
on principle i'm not gonna kill someone's townreads after they ate the NK absent an incredibly strong case

I see. Understood.

I only raised the thought as I don't think we have clear enough lines yet. I've seen scum set up favorable 50/50 WIFOM situations by using the legacy of a dead player too many times for comfort at this point (Ted gave me some form of mafia PTSD or something). I do not think it incorrect to use all available information, but recognize that the kill is controlled by scum first and foremost.

I still don't believe [VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine to be in a civ mindset.

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now

I don't believe that this is wise.

Nook was wanted dead for a reason, was Nook right or wrong is a manipulatable WIFOM situation.

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:21 pm @DrWilgy
U say no one liked dizzy, but that wasn't true at all. People were voicing opinions for like both. Gura in particular said that this was Dizzy's town game. Alison said dizzy was town for mind melding with them? I can't recall others off the top of my head

I believe you misunderstood me while giving Nook an aneurysm.

When I said "like Mizzy tho" and "like Dizzy tho" I'm referring to people were thinking "What about the Mizzy/Dizzy option for vote."

It was a silly way for me to state that I saw a contrast in momentum between the two lead wagons.

I will say that my last minute vote was something not as calculated as I would have preferred, thinking that this momentum observation was some sort of holy epiphany.

RIP Nook.

Scum still in Luckbox tho

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:58 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:57 pm It's setting in. Everybody like Mizzy tho, where anyone like Dizzy tho?

Dizzy tho isn't a thing because temmies don't want the Dizzy tho. Temmies looking for the Dizzy tho that ain't Mizzy tho.
I just had a mini stroke

Yo bro tho, I trust homies on this wagon mo tho

So do that tho. [VOTE: Dizzy tho.] aubergine hope you scum bro.

It's setting in. Everybody like Mizzy tho, where anyone like Dizzy tho?

Dizzy tho isn't a thing because temmies don't want the Dizzy tho. Temmies looking for the Dizzy tho that ain't Mizzy tho.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:31 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:30 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:27 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:23 pm nothing, I acknowledge he hasn't do much
with my counter-argument being his meta probably points to him just being obvious town
but meta is clearly only important when it pushes the read everyone else wants
i dunno man it's just me and luckbox voting him, i know nothing about him and i'm certainly not about to do any homework on him, idk why you're acting like this is overwhelming consensus against you
This kinda. Wisp writes as if there's a spotlight on them.

Wolf projections? A wolf knows that their personal value is greater than a townfolk.
you're off your rocker my man scum don't get that flustered over disagreement

I can no longer tell if the disagreements I have with you are AI or not.

Perhaps we are just opposite in our thinking and philosophy.

I will need to think about this.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:41 pm I'd vote Alison

Every time.

Woop Woop all aboard the [VOTE: WISP] aubergine wagon!!

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:36 pmsigh, idk anymore

All I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense to vote a town read when you aren't forced in a position of self pres.

I don't like either Dizzy or Mizzy as lead wagon, but I'm not going to choose one over the other. I'd rather yeet my scumread.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:32 pm
This kinda. Wisp writes as if there's a spotlight on them.

Wolf projections? A wolf knows that their personal value is greater than a townsfolk.
nobody should want to die, that's irrelevant

But a wolf has a greater fear of death than a townfolk.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:31 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:29 pm most scum would be more careful with optics around their votes
ya well im not scum, so as long someone dies, that still has a possibility of being a wolf, which others think
even if it contradicts my reads, then I'll vote them, I'm not an omnipotent being

in the case of Mizery I don't feel like anyone wants to save him, unless all his partners are just not playing the game

Bruh

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:28 pm whole sequence is probably +town for wisp though

I see the opposite. Wolfs have a tendency to feel more pressure of number importance.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:27 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:23 pm nothing, I acknowledge he hasn't do much
with my counter-argument being his meta probably points to him just being obvious town
but meta is clearly only important when it pushes the read everyone else wants
i dunno man it's just me and luckbox voting him, i know nothing about him and i'm certainly not about to do any homework on him, idk why you're acting like this is overwhelming consensus against you

This kinda. Wisp writes as if there's a spotlight on them.

Wolf projections? A wolf knows that their personal value is greater than a townfolk.

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