The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:04 pm Nook I loved your game gg

Spoiler: show

Nook dont look i hated this game but not because of the game. I hate the players not the game on this day

I'm sorry I had to murder you

Good game all.

Yeah I don't like it.

But also Sean/Falcon being the potential team or they are both wrong on me doesn't leave me with very many options.

It's entirely possible W Sean moves to me when it's TvT to establish a counter wagon. Had I gone over, W Sean would be probably posting the same but sub my name for Screens.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:25 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:24 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:17 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:15 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:15 pm actually now that i think of it yea it seems weird for lilypetal to be wolf with the ability to lie detect

unless it's for a pr hunt or something

roles aren't alignment indicative

wait
what

let me
go
and actually
read the setup

Gut is saying trust the meta read on Falcon, so it's likely you plus Lily/Sean imo. I don't think my dif check needs to be wrong if I'm wrong about your alignment and Falcon/Seanzie had some good points earlier on the subject.

If I'm wrong to trust the gut it's Falcon/Seanzie, so I'm kinda stuck.

wait, so you wolfread me?

why have you like... not talked about that at all before?

Perhaps my explanation earlier today didn't come through.

I think if Falcon is T, I have to be wrong on either the dif check between Lily/Sean or you being T.

I don't think I'm wrong on the dif check, so ultimately it comes down to who's the team Sean/Falcon or Lily/Ris. I don't think that Sean/Ris makes sense. I don't think Lily/Falcon makes sense.

One of those situations where if we had one more cycle, I'd be at the solve.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:16 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:12 pm @risiinq- @DrWilgy

so

where vote

Been driving back from the Doc and skimming your ISO still.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine to save myself, but I don't feel good about it.

Lily, if you are wrong, who's the Wolf?

idk tbh probably you and im wolfsiding

Why not Falcon or Ris?

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:17 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:15 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:15 pm actually now that i think of it yea it seems weird for lilypetal to be wolf with the ability to lie detect

unless it's for a pr hunt or something

roles aren't alignment indicative

wait
what

let me
go
and actually
read the setup

Gut is saying trust the meta read on Falcon, so it's likely you plus Lily/Sean imo. I don't think my dif check needs to be wrong if I'm wrong about your alignment and Falcon/Seanzie had some good points earlier on the subject.

If I'm wrong to trust the gut it's Falcon/Seanzie, so I'm kinda stuck.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:12 pm @risiinq- @DrWilgy

so

where vote

Been driving back from the Doc and skimming your ISO still.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine to save myself, but I don't feel good about it.

Lily, if you are wrong, who's the Wolf?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:02 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:21 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:32 am Speaking of which,

@Lilypetal can you put me in your headspace during that tie? What sis you think of the fact that I moved to screen play? Did you try to get me or anyone else around to move back? Dis the whole thing happen fast or did it feel like time had slowed down?

i normally play mafia while doing other stuff and i went to this tab and saw u had made it a tie so i was like what the fuck ever and voted screen after like complaining abt u making it a tie

if i remember correctly

i was doing something else so i couldn't rly threadcamp and see if u would change it back

i just went ugh this bitch a wolf

Why would me making it a tie make me a wolf? In a world where ties are no-elims, wouldn't that be TWTBAW?

in my eyes you have blatantly powerwolfed this game so no not really

Like, where does this come from?

As far as I saw, you just happened to start going hard this cycle. I've read Sean as mostly a town voice. I think it's mostly tin foil/fear that'd lead me to consider voting there.

I started last phase voting sean

I suppose I'll reread. Didn't recall that from my ISO skims.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:36 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:16 pm Does seem to be Sean falcon though.

Like, why does W Sean create a tie if the wagons are T/T? What's the motivation?



I don't see how you view Sean as W!, who didn't try and save his partner by at least tying wagons for either a no lynch, or a coin toss...why am I his partner in this scenario?


It doesn't make sense that W! Sean does that unless Wilgy is his teammate

Eh... I think Sean comments on this later, but I think this is mostly NAI.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:21 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:32 am Speaking of which,

@Lilypetal can you put me in your headspace during that tie? What sis you think of the fact that I moved to screen play? Did you try to get me or anyone else around to move back? Dis the whole thing happen fast or did it feel like time had slowed down?

i normally play mafia while doing other stuff and i went to this tab and saw u had made it a tie so i was like what the fuck ever and voted screen after like complaining abt u making it a tie

if i remember correctly

i was doing something else so i couldn't rly threadcamp and see if u would change it back

i just went ugh this bitch a wolf

Why would me making it a tie make me a wolf? In a world where ties are no-elims, wouldn't that be TWTBAW?

in my eyes you have blatantly powerwolfed this game so no not really

Like, where does this come from?

As far as I saw, you just happened to start going hard this cycle. I've read Sean as mostly a town voice. I think it's mostly tin foil/fear that'd lead me to consider voting there.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:30 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:42 pm The WaGoNoMiCs argument is bad and will stay bad.

Spelling words with mixed caps and lower cases doesn't make it invalid.


You don't look at wagon patterns when hunting wolves eh? Interesting

No, but it being your entire argument and case is weak.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pm Why are ties bad?



Well, if your wolf teammate is one of the wagons, yeah.



There's no reason a tie was anti-town last RD, except if Wilgy is Maf.

So you don't believe Lily's claim that they thought a tie would be a no lynch? Or do you believe Lily and think that it makes it scumsided to avoid a no lynch?

There is a third possibility, that Lily used the tie as an excuse to do something they thought they would look townie while also saving a partner

Kinda wild. Idk, I feel that a feign of ignorance on the rules may go against the spirit of the game? Like feels like that'd come from outside the game, but alas it's not an unreasonable conclusion.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:42 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:30 pm Yeah, Wilgys pretty much outted I'd say

You were voting me before the EoD debacle, so clearly your reasoning is false.
Desired a moment to ensure that I'm not conf biasing into your vote and instead of solving you're like 'nah outed wolf clearly'

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:34 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:58 pm we need to not tie lol

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm [VOTE: screen] aubergine

dont want tie

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Screen (4): neon, lily, risiinq, sean
Wilgy (2): screen, falcon
Not voting (1): wilgy

There's no reason at all for this to have happened unless Wilgy is Maf.

Or you were voting me, Screen needed to save themselves and Lily didn't trust the tie? Hmmm????

You weren't outted when I was voting you. EOD thp, that was very outting, and it should be clear as day

More bs and you know it. You can say 'outted outted' without reason until you are blue and it doesn't make it an actual statement. Town Falcon 100% would be weighing the Lily/Seanzie team here.

I mean, tbf you seem to not be considering a lily team at all?

How's coming to the conclusion that you/Lily are a dif check not considering Lily?

If it's Lily, there's a good chance I've miscleared Ris at this point. I think that makes the most sense here.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:13 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Why is a tie an issue?

I was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?

How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3

Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol

And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?

Were you on me prior to Screen?

Yes

Oh, I thought this was to me, but yes Lily was on Wilgy prior to Screen.

@DrWilgy I still haven't seen what spat is supposed to clear you/Lily.

Mainly this:

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:27 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:21 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:58 am oh he is playing very close to how he did in that reanimators game ur right

But he's a TR? It's like you threw it out there just to make content and then realized Oops! It's NAI, oh wait it's W.

oh you're wolfing again

omgus?

i dunno your post just felt kinda forced like

i put out a tr basd on recent experiences with creature

sean counters with oh actually creature's play here more closely mirrors his wolf games here u go look at it

i read the wolf game and go oh shit you're right!

i vote creature

"but he's a TR" makes no sense to say because obviously I have seen evidence and changed my read accordingly

I'd be hard pressed to believe you think Lily and I are aligned after Lily goes in on me like so.

Uhh... did you quote the right post? Lily saying that "your posts just felt kinda forced" doesn't exactly scream "must be unteamed"?

That's just when it started. Lily's been following the same argument on me for a minute now.

Hello!

Done being stabbed by my doctor.

I'm having the same feeling about me being wrong on Falc like I had re Jay afew games ago that turned out to be correct. I'm going to likely not end on Falc.

Good hello. Been swamped. Will try to be here after doc appointment.

Will be around EoD at least and will try to save myself.

Re: Falcon about meta, I agree. You are in Y Meta. Very much so and it's making me doubt things. For my meta read to be off one of these 3 must be true.

1. I'm wrong, you've broken meta and gratz.

2. I'm wrong about the Lily/Seanzie dif check.

3. I'm wrong about Ris.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:42 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:30 pm Yeah, Wilgys pretty much outted I'd say

You were voting me before the EoD debacle, so clearly your reasoning is false.
Desired a moment to ensure that I'm not conf biasing into your vote and instead of solving you're like 'nah outed wolf clearly'

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:34 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:58 pm we need to not tie lol

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm [VOTE: screen] aubergine

dont want tie

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Screen (4): neon, lily, risiinq, sean
Wilgy (2): screen, falcon
Not voting (1): wilgy

There's no reason at all for this to have happened unless Wilgy is Maf.

Or you were voting me, Screen needed to save themselves and Lily didn't trust the tie? Hmmm????

You weren't outted when I was voting you. EOD thp, that was very outting, and it should be clear as day

More bs and you know it. You can say 'outted outted' without reason until you are blue and it doesn't make it an actual statement. Town Falcon 100% would be weighing the Lily/Seanzie team here.

It's in the back of my mind, but I'm also gauging your responses.


They have not been towny IMO.



I'm not sure which is your teammate, leaning lily due to the "afraid of a tie"...why? What's the worst that could happen? It doesn't make sense, particularly in the dying minutes of the RD

Bro, I've basically begged you to work with me here in solving and all I've gotten is 'you're outed' and 'Wilgy Wolf'

Where is my alternative than yelling and screaming to prevent me from accidentally yeeting you if I'm wrong?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:42 pm The WaGoNoMiCs argument is bad and will stay bad.

Spelling words with mixed caps and lower cases doesn't make it invalid.


You don't look at wagon patterns when hunting wolves eh? Interesting

No, but it being your entire argument and case is weak.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:55 pm Why are ties bad?



Well, if your wolf teammate is one of the wagons, yeah.



There's no reason a tie was anti-town last RD, except if Wilgy is Maf.

So you don't believe Lily's claim that they thought a tie would be a no lynch? Or do you believe Lily and think that it makes it scumsided to avoid a no lynch?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:42 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:30 pm Yeah, Wilgys pretty much outted I'd say

You were voting me before the EoD debacle, so clearly your reasoning is false.
Desired a moment to ensure that I'm not conf biasing into your vote and instead of solving you're like 'nah outed wolf clearly'

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:34 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:58 pm we need to not tie lol

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm [VOTE: screen] aubergine

dont want tie

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Screen (4): neon, lily, risiinq, sean
Wilgy (2): screen, falcon
Not voting (1): wilgy

There's no reason at all for this to have happened unless Wilgy is Maf.

Or you were voting me, Screen needed to save themselves and Lily didn't trust the tie? Hmmm????

You weren't outted when I was voting you. EOD thp, that was very outting, and it should be clear as day

More bs and you know it. You can say 'outted outted' without reason until you are blue and it doesn't make it an actual statement. Town Falcon 100% would be weighing the Lily/Seanzie team here.

The WaGoNoMiCs argument is bad and will stay bad.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:30 pm Yeah, Wilgys pretty much outted I'd say

You were voting me before the EoD debacle, so clearly your reasoning is false.
Desired a moment to ensure that I'm not conf biasing into your vote and instead of solving you're like 'nah outed wolf clearly'

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:34 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:58 pm we need to not tie lol

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:59 pm [VOTE: screen] aubergine

dont want tie

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Screen (4): neon, lily, risiinq, sean
Wilgy (2): screen, falcon
Not voting (1): wilgy

There's no reason at all for this to have happened unless Wilgy is Maf.

Or you were voting me, Screen needed to save themselves and Lily didn't trust the tie? Hmmm????

Further, just based on the Lily/Seanzie votes being together and Lily going at Sean right at start of day, I think it's just a dif check there.

Meaning it's gotta be [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine.

I'll double check the Lily/Sean associations later, but Falcon seems to be correct for now.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:44 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:16 pm Does seem to be Sean falcon though.

This is either laughably bad townplay, or blatant scum play.



Why is Wilgy Town? This should be good

Dude, you haven't told me why I'm wolf. You've just said it 3 times without reason. Same shit you got into both Creature and Screenplay on.

Tell me your Lily Read? If I'm wolf is it either Lily or Sean that's my teammate? Tell me your scope on Lily/Seanzie.

I mean, I'm not sure how a town perspective Wilgy doesn't see how EOD w/ your CW flipping green with some last minute vote shenanigans doesn't make you Maf.


Sean and Lily are the POE I'll sort thru next RD, or I'll get MKd cuz I'm gonna go hard in the paint on those two next RD.


I'd like to hear from @risiinq-

Bullshit, if that was correct, then Screen would've red flipped.

Also, you clearly aren't playing for next round, I think you know game is over when I flip.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:44 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:16 pm Does seem to be Sean falcon though.

This is either laughably bad townplay, or blatant scum play.



Why is Wilgy Town? This should be good

Dude, you haven't told me why I'm wolf. You've just said it 3 times without reason. Same shit you got into both Creature and Screenplay on.

Tell me your Lily Read? If I'm wolf is it either Lily or Sean that's my teammate? Tell me your scope on Lily/Seanzie.

That makes sense I suppose.

I just started on Lily ISO, but I'm just hung up on something.

Does Sean honestly believe in a Lily/Wilgy team? Sean's position right now is somewhat silly. If they are town and suspecting me, my teammate would have to be Falcon who they are hard town reading. Doesn't make sense.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:52 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:51 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine


Wilgy and Sean are Maf.

I'm sure you've seen me do vote shenanigans lile that regardless of my alignment.

Lily was the one to break the tie.

It was the responsible town thing to do after you put us to a tie 3 minutes before eod

Why is a tie an issue?

I was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?

How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3

Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol

And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?

Were you on me prior to Screen?

Yes. I think had you died the game would be solved lol

Don't understand this one. You'd be saying the same thing about Screen had I flipped.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:13 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:10 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:52 pm

I'm sure you've seen me do vote shenanigans lile that regardless of my alignment.

Lily was the one to break the tie.

It was the responsible town thing to do after you put us to a tie 3 minutes before eod

Why is a tie an issue?

I was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?

How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3

Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol

And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?

Were you on me prior to Screen?

Yes

Oh, I thought this was to me, but yes Lily was on Wilgy prior to Screen.

@DrWilgy I still haven't seen what spat is supposed to clear you/Lily.

Mainly this:

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:27 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:21 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:58 am oh he is playing very close to how he did in that reanimators game ur right

But he's a TR? It's like you threw it out there just to make content and then realized Oops! It's NAI, oh wait it's W.

oh you're wolfing again

omgus?

i dunno your post just felt kinda forced like

i put out a tr basd on recent experiences with creature

sean counters with oh actually creature's play here more closely mirrors his wolf games here u go look at it

i read the wolf game and go oh shit you're right!

i vote creature

"but he's a TR" makes no sense to say because obviously I have seen evidence and changed my read accordingly

I'd be hard pressed to believe you think Lily and I are aligned after Lily goes in on me like so.

Actually, so looking here:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:02 pm Creature (4): srceenplay, seamzie, falcon, wilgy
Srceenplay (3): neon, risiinq, creature
Neon (1): lily
Sean (1): porscha

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:04 pm Screen (4): neon, lily, risiinq, sean
Wilgy (2): screen, falcon
Not voting (1): wilgy

No shot in hell both of these were pure. Lv1 it's just Sean, Lv2 Falcon/Lily?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:01 pm Also kinda reads like someone who's intentionally trying to emulate their town meta

at least we both want Wilgy.

mfw Sean saved me to be the lylo scapegoat.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:52 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:51 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine


Wilgy and Sean are Maf.

I'm sure you've seen me do vote shenanigans lile that regardless of my alignment.

Lily was the one to break the tie.

It was the responsible town thing to do after you put us to a tie 3 minutes before eod

Why is a tie an issue?

I was under the impression a tie would mean no one dies, no?

How I see it is you voted screen forcing it to 3-3

Eod was inactive and I was the only one there to stop it so in my eyes you were either hardcore griefing or a wolf. I was forced to vote screen despite TRing him to break the tie. You then used me swapping my vote to justify your vote. Just bad stuff lol

And then if you were town you would enter today voting me so you voting Snow is incredibly weird and almost outing. Why didn't you enter the day sus of me?

Were you on me prior to Screen?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:57 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 pm Sean had absolutely zero need to move except to save his Maf buddy Wilgy

Is this the primary suspicion towards both Sean and I? that interaction?

Sean has no reason to get on Screens wagon, and asked me to recindised my vote on their wagon earlier.


Surely you can see that pairing, or you and lily I spose as well.



You first tho

I haven't been through Sean's ISO yet, so idk why they voted there.

Lily too. I do find Lily's vote as being very odd at least as they seemed to have me in the crosshairs d1.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 pm Sean had absolutely zero need to move except to save his Maf buddy Wilgy

Is this the primary suspicion towards both Sean and I? that interaction?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:47 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:14 pm Falcon
Neon
Porscha
Risiinq
Seanzie
DrWilgy

Lilypetal
Creature
Srceenplay

wont vote screenplay rn tho he's very daddy

Is this list in order, from Towniest to Scummiest?



If so, why am I so high on your TRs?

Town Falcon often looks to find who has TMI on them early. Seems to be in their MO.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:56 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:45 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:24 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:42 pm I'd def vote Creature, Neon, or screenplay

Why Neon?

Why Creature & screenplay?

Creature for cowardice not seen since the days of Golden.

Screenplay because of mushed tatos.

Neon for an excess of posts that do diddly squat within a post cap game

This exchange, Falcon made me pay a question toll to get an answer. This did generate more content than Falcon just answering.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:34 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:05 am

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:50 pm Anyone want to snowball thoughts/ideas?

Always

Same...but what are screens thoughts?


They've got a "feels" vote on Sean, and also tossed in risiing as a teammate...then some stuff about how Maf want Town second guessing themselves...OK.


And then a comment on Lily not being worth a vote for...well, who knows cuz' screen doesn't say

Falcon provides suspicion on Screen

There's some back and forth with Neon after this. Feels like Falcon is prying, but I'm not sure what the conclusion is at this point.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:20 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:19 am Minor pokemon Scarlet/Violet spoilers below:

Spoiler: show

the game is leaking and my favorite pokemon got an evolution after 20 fucking years. Dudunsparce is perfect and I love them and I'm so fucking hype.

Idk why I need to share this everywhere that has spoiler tags, but I'm just so hyped up for it. That is all. Goodnight.

Who is Durdoospace?

Side note: we can yeet this man.

Oh, there's a Neon vote after some Creature deliberating.

Votes Screen

Votes Creature

D2:
Shades Screen, I'm assuming for the same suspicion voiced earlier. |

Banter

votes Sean

Banter

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:44 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:59 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:57 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:26 pm i think i also did park my vote on srceen b4 i left and iirc it was a competing wagon? but eod was so inactive i dont know what that says

I like voting screen, but I wouldn't say they were a strong wagon...I don't belive there was ever more than 2 votes on their slot IIRC

i mean... were there any competing wagons then

At EOD? Yes there were


Interesting to note that you claim that screen was a competing wagon, and then question if there were any competing wagons


[VOTE: risiin] aubergine

So as I stated earlier, Falcon doesn't like lying. They will go out of their way to avoid needing to lie. Unless Falcon has greatly shifted the meta, I wonder if this is Falcon's way of voting while not lying. A town can make contrary statements.

Votes Lily

Points out progression on Lily.

Votes Me.

Votes Screen.

Votes Me.

Votes Ris.

Votes Me.

I suppose my hangup is Falcon really didn't inquire me as I'd expect before dropping the vote on me. Closes with Sean/Wilgy teammates.

~~~

Meh. So the only conclusions Falcon came to on players that I observed were players that are now flipped. Falcon seems to be ok with a good assortment of people and I can't tell if they are solving, mainly for the fact of including me in the vote pool while not really interacting with me? Like I know I was absent D2, but I was plenty around D1. My hang up is I don't SEE where Falcon is looking like they are avoiding lying. Hell, W Falcon afks quite frequently and I don't know if that'd be broken so easily.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:28 pm Ris spends alot of time D1 mulling over Porscha.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:28 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:45 pm anyway porscha is already obv town lol i did it porscha i found u !!!

....maybe

i think i kinda agree

at least

i think porscha's later posts have been better

my judgement on an opener doesnt rly matter in the long run anyways

Ultimately ends with a TR on Porscha/Neon

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:26 am porscha and neon are my temp town rn

neon bc of vibecheck - they're the one who feels the most comfortable in thread at all times imo

porscha partly bc of vibecheck, ig

i rmb there were a few posts i thought looked like v!porscha

granted i haven't actually played with w!porscha, but yea

And a slight green on Falc

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:28 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:34 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:05 am

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:50 pm Anyone want to snowball thoughts/ideas?

Always

Same...but what are screens thoughts?


They've got a "feels" vote on Sean, and also tossed in risiing as a teammate...then some stuff about how Maf want Town second guessing themselves...OK.


And then a comment on Lily not being worth a vote for...well, who knows cuz' screen doesn't say

i think it was this one tbh, looking at their iso now it's not as good as i thought it was fsr, but this commentary + sass was nice to see

And Sean,

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:39 am my seanzie snapread is town bc mindmeld and bc how he's solving

gud huge post -> gud 180

not banking on it though

I would like to point out that the reads all feel really waffley.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:58 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:50 am level 1 world is something like screen snow

but i kinda think they're just confusing villagers

can u like... elaborate on this more? i kinda feel like i havent seen a lot of concrete reads from u

First and only real interaction with Lily. (also Ris hasn't interacted with me either, suppose I wasn't around much d2, so maybe this means nothing re Lily.)

Contributed to screenplay wagon

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:44 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:59 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:57 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:26 pm i think i also did park my vote on srceen b4 i left and iirc it was a competing wagon? but eod was so inactive i dont know what that says

I like voting screen, but I wouldn't say they were a strong wagon...I don't belive there was ever more than 2 votes on their slot IIRC

i mean... were there any competing wagons then

At EOD? Yes there were


Interesting to note that you claim that screen was a competing wagon, and then question if there were any competing wagons


[VOTE: risiin] aubergine

hm? wdym?

i say that i thought that srceen was a competing wagon iirc, you say there were never more than 2 votes on them (which really is not enough)

and then i question if there were any at all in that case

Last thing of interest was Falcon voting for some contrary statements.

~~~

There's not much from the ISO, but I think that furthers the idea that Ris wouldn't kill Neon here. I think Ris's iso is decently weak in the sense that there isn't much hunting being done. Not much to invalidate the Falcon/Ris theory I spoke about previously, but also it really doesn't make sense for it to be Ris under these conditions. Perhaps this is also supported by the Porscha interactions D1, but maybe I'm making too much of it.

Sean, what do you think? You seem to be vested in the Ris SR.

Easy enough then. I'm going to trust my Falcon townread, so I'm sure you can figure out where my head is at in a town!rising world.

So you are implying a Wilgy/Lily team in spite of our squabble?

Also, detail me on Falcon. I'm going through the ISO now and am up to Creature's flip. So far, I see Falcon asking alot of questions, but I'm not sure if I'm seeing the drawing of conclusions. Perhaps I'm looking for it too much as 'find where Falcon is avoiding lying' is how to catch them if W.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:16 pm votes arent locked right?

I sure hope not.

Ris spends alot of time D1 mulling over Porscha.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:28 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:45 pm anyway porscha is already obv town lol i did it porscha i found u !!!

....maybe

i think i kinda agree

at least

i think porscha's later posts have been better

my judgement on an opener doesnt rly matter in the long run anyways

Ultimately ends with a TR on Porscha/Neon

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:26 am porscha and neon are my temp town rn

neon bc of vibecheck - they're the one who feels the most comfortable in thread at all times imo

porscha partly bc of vibecheck, ig

i rmb there were a few posts i thought looked like v!porscha

granted i haven't actually played with w!porscha, but yea

And a slight green on Falc

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:28 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:34 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:05 am

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:50 pm Anyone want to snowball thoughts/ideas?

Always

Same...but what are screens thoughts?


They've got a "feels" vote on Sean, and also tossed in risiing as a teammate...then some stuff about how Maf want Town second guessing themselves...OK.


And then a comment on Lily not being worth a vote for...well, who knows cuz' screen doesn't say

i think it was this one tbh, looking at their iso now it's not as good as i thought it was fsr, but this commentary + sass was nice to see

And Sean,

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:39 am my seanzie snapread is town bc mindmeld and bc how he's solving

gud huge post -> gud 180

not banking on it though

I would like to point out that the reads all feel really waffley.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:58 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:50 am level 1 world is something like screen snow

but i kinda think they're just confusing villagers

can u like... elaborate on this more? i kinda feel like i havent seen a lot of concrete reads from u

First and only real interaction with Lily. (also Ris hasn't interacted with me either, suppose I wasn't around much d2, so maybe this means nothing re Lily.)

Contributed to screenplay wagon

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:44 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:59 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:57 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:26 pm i think i also did park my vote on srceen b4 i left and iirc it was a competing wagon? but eod was so inactive i dont know what that says

I like voting screen, but I wouldn't say they were a strong wagon...I don't belive there was ever more than 2 votes on their slot IIRC

i mean... were there any competing wagons then

At EOD? Yes there were


Interesting to note that you claim that screen was a competing wagon, and then question if there were any competing wagons


[VOTE: risiin] aubergine

hm? wdym?

i say that i thought that srceen was a competing wagon iirc, you say there were never more than 2 votes on them (which really is not enough)

and then i question if there were any at all in that case

Last thing of interest was Falcon voting for some contrary statements.

~~~

There's not much from the ISO, but I think that furthers the idea that Ris wouldn't kill Neon here. I think Ris's iso is decently weak in the sense that there isn't much hunting being done. Not much to invalidate the Falcon/Ris theory I spoke about previously, but also it really doesn't make sense for it to be Ris under these conditions. Perhaps this is also supported by the Porscha interactions D1, but maybe I'm making too much of it.

Sean, what do you think? You seem to be vested in the Ris SR.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:11 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:10 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:44 pm It's objectively always net beneficial to flip the CW especially when they are kinda scummy

Neon, if you're town then you are very blatantly playing into a wolf agenda. flipping a villager here specifically for being the day 1 CW is not a good play. I do not see why screen kills porscha either. The much more likely scenario is that the wolves are in falcon/wilgy/sean and they have been powerwolfing this entire game

speaking of [VOTE: sean] aubergine

I strongly disagree

Aside from the fact that Screenplay is the d1 CW, what is your read on the slot, and why?

I have town reads on Lily you and Riisinq

My poe is self evident and Screen provides valuable data on wagon movement d1 if they flip wolf as I suspect they will

Aye, unless it's strictly Ris/Falc, I think Ris is clear.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:00 pm I am not at all happy with Neon's FPS and would like to return to Rising.

When does W! Ris NK Neon?

I just thought of that, and am mulling it over as we speak.

I don't see it boss. Not before Lylo with the exception of Ris saving a teammate.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:00 pm I am not at all happy with Neon's FPS and would like to return to Rising.

When does W! Ris NK Neon?

Lily run by me your suspicion on me again, you disliked my views on your progression yes?

Falcon, you too. Why was I voted?

Screen I guess I get, but what prompted the other suspicion on me?

Ah I see.

Interesting. Screen why me? I think I understand Lily's perspective, but what has you voting for me? You think you are more likely to save yourself with a Wilgy CW?

@Lilypetal tldr from today plz?

Was renfest weekend and I'm recovering from alcoholism and too long being outdoors in the cold.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:54 pm Didn’t get home until 4:00. Just now got up. Need to go get some lunch.


Has wigly posted today? If not can we get mod intervention?


When I think about Sean I don’t want to vote them but then I’ll be going against my gut. My gut reads are always better than my thinking reads.

I’ll be back in two hours.

Pfft. Asking for mod intervention when we still have plenty of time.

Does Neon bring up the 1 in 3 as W similar to W Mac in the form of a giga troll gremlin?

Much kek if so.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:43 pm @DrWilgy opinion on neon?

I don't know how to read Neon tbh. I think that they are town sided currently, BUT think Neon becomes an easier slot to read under pressure hence my opinion on Falc.

I like what Falcon is doing in spite of disagreeing.

I like what Sean is doing.

Ris and Screenplay are in this realm of I'd expect more out of them.

Porscha is just town.

Lily I'm confused about.

Yeet Creature.

Ehh.. maybe it's not that bad. Idk.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:27 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:21 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:58 am oh he is playing very close to how he did in that reanimators game ur right

But he's a TR? It's like you threw it out there just to make content and then realized Oops! It's NAI, oh wait it's W.

oh you're wolfing again

omgus?

i dunno your post just felt kinda forced like

i put out a tr basd on recent experiences with creature

sean counters with oh actually creature's play here more closely mirrors his wolf games here u go look at it

i read the wolf game and go oh shit you're right!

i vote creature

"but he's a TR" makes no sense to say because obviously I have seen evidence and changed my read accordingly

Just you picked a super low poster to tr and that made no sense. Yes when you said it's NAI, I was more willing to agree but then you 180'd.

Falcon, Seanzie and I all noticed it too with varying strangeness towards it.

I disagree with the Sean wagon.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:21 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:58 am oh he is playing very close to how he did in that reanimators game ur right

But he's a TR? It's like you threw it out there just to make content and then realized Oops! It's NAI, oh wait it's W.

oh you're wolfing again

omgus?