The Syndicate

Lol, I'm done being salty.

Good game all. Mafia did exceptionally.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:52 pm Final thoughts as I need to hop off:
I hope y'all take a long look at Ted and Carot after this.

Alison is potentially scum, BUT
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:24 am Mac's death also points to Mac dying being more important than Alison, Proto, or Colin.

Meaning a town Proto and Colin are likely on the wrong path and a whomever scum is thinks they can still yeet a town Alison

I feel that a scum Proto or Colin would've pushed for me earlier in the cycle. A scum Alison is possible, but unlikely for the reason that a town proto/colin is likely wrong.

Final thoughts as I need to hop off:
I hope y'all take a long look at Ted and Carot after this.

Alison is potentially scum, BUT

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:24 am Mac's death also points to Mac dying being more important than Alison, Proto, or Colin.

Meaning a town Proto and Colin are likely on the wrong path and a whomever scum is thinks they can still yeet a town Alison

I feel that a scum Proto or Colin would've pushed for me earlier in the cycle. A scum Alison is possible, but unlikely for the reason that a town proto/colin is likely wrong.

LMAO, if I'm scum, my teammate is either proto or everyone is just ok with me getting lynched.

Guess I'm dying then.

Good luck in lylo town.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]

Voting me is voting a Civ. I'll offer Carotte as an option.

Now, I will say that Ted's hard push does strike me as weird. Alison makes a good point as to whether or not a scum would 1v1 me knowing how I'll flip, but perhaps going hard to seem 'civvy' is the goal.

Does strike me that this is exactly what I expected of scum when Mac died.

This sucks, as I'm not sure where I should be voting. The hunter in me screams don't take your vote off Ted, but knowing my lynch will lead to Lylo I suppose a self pres on Carotte is needed. Also don't feel awful about that one as Ted/Carotte is team compatible.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:38 am @tedxtr I just skimmed through your iso again. How have you managed to avoid talking about Carotte at all this game?
I mean you can try pinning me with whomever you want, I realise that's what you have to do because you realistically don't have jackshit on me and I'm billboard town right now.

I haven't interacted with a lot of people at the time of their deaths and barely mentioned names - me and Carrote didn't really cross paths in thread whenever she posted and I always kept getting sidetracked by other slots that I cared about sorting / I had other questions towards people at that time, plus I believed she was fairly fine during D1, at which point I kinda just rocked with that read, as I have with multiple people like proto and Alison, so I didn't really care for her posts but I carried on with that town read in the back of my mind.

Like I've already said I was detached and most of my content came from within whatever was on that thread page when I was posting or just ISOing, which I've done for 2 people. I don't believe I'm that terrible of a player in order to not interact with a scum buddy of mine at all fwiw but sure, I guess you could push that world.

I still am not bothered by what Carotte is doing here in case you wanted a read. I think considering Alison here is natural, I myself am quite baffled by her Nanook read and I question whether it's just plain TMI and the fact she's still breathing despite being the literal counterwagon is even worse but I'm repressing my urges until you're flipped.

The reality is that most of my reads change because of my longevity but I realise I'm never dying in this game, unless I am yeeting scum you today and Alison is a scum, like that's pretty much the only world where I die in, I think, so that's why I don't really see a reason to re-evaluate until I have your flip.

If you're town I'm really sorry but you're already setting up narratives that don't make sense unless you actually tried to make something out of my entire ISO.

How is that pinning? It's a legitiate question. I wanted to know your thoughts on Carotte, because you haven't interacted with them and brought it up. You two are team compatible and I was surprised at the event. Does no one else feel like someone having not interacted with a player feels off at this point in the game?

This is dumb. If I'm scum, who is my teammate?

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] I just skimmed through your iso again. How have you managed to avoid talking about Carotte at all this game?

Toxic? yes

Civ minded? Maybe. I was considering posting something along the lines of this last night, but refrained as if we are v/v we are effectively throwing the game and I'm not sure if my read on you is worth the risk at this point. I can't safely say I'll take a yeet to prove my alignment and get you yeeted. If we could yeet you alone, I'm all in.

Also re Mac, this is the shit I read into as soon as I saw him die. Someone took a clean townfirm out while making me look bad. Doing that isn't in Nanook's MO and I feel like that's a contributing factor to why I may be able to put him behind someone else in my POE.

Mac's death also points to Mac dying being more important than Alison, Proto, or Colin.

Meaning a town Proto and Colin are likely on the wrong path and a whomever scum is thinks they can still yeet a town Alison

I feel that a scum Proto or Colin would've pushed for me earlier in the cycle. A scum Alison is possible, but unlikely for the reason that a town proto/colin is likely wrong.

Scum either set up the perfect thunderdome between us, or you think you can get me misyeeted and survive. I'm not sure which as it seems a very risky line for you directly.

Really now? Fair then. Guess it was a perception thing.

I just know immediately afterwards I saw a tempo pushing Nanook in Corrupt so that may have impacted how I read you.

Bed thoughts:
I don't know what to make of the game tempo.

I feel like Ted and Proto are both tempo detractors. Makes me feel there's no w/w there.

Smooth tempo feels are Alison and Carotte. No harsh direction flips, and with the lynch track we are on, they are either complacent civs or scum happy about game state. If Alison is bad Carotte is the teammate.

Colin and Nanook are somewhere in the middle. Not sure.

Like... If Ted isn't bad then it has to be Alison Carotte right?

Linki: I'm pretty sure the first game we played together you slanked into victory lmao. I'll forever be afraid of slanknook.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:45 pm Sorry Colin. Feel better buddy.
My POE is you, Carotte and Ted. Do you think the team is Carotte/Ted, or do you think I've falsely cleared someone, and if it's the latter then why?

Carotte Ted is plausible. I haven't seen anything that would say otherwise.

My POE is Nanook Ted Carotte so ours aligning somewhat makes me more confident. I just don't get why Nanook is cleared.

Sorry Colin. Feel better buddy.

Also Mac dying feels like an attack on me :/

Which makes me think I'm even more right about Ted, but one shouldn't act on nk's.

Perhaps the answer is in Ted/Carote?

Not a fan of Carote's coin flip proposal. I don't see how that's civ minded even in jest.

I'm not going to say I disagree with the LC lynch. But why did we policy LC over Nanook? There's a massive difference between a slanker that is here and a slanker that quite literally just subbed into the game.

×__×

Can we lynch someone I want for once?

There's also the 'if I'm wrong' line.

To which we should Lynch Mac immediately... BUT I really don't think I'm wrong this time. Who knows, spectator chat could be cringing at my thoughts as I post them lmao.

Right now the lines I see

Nanook/Ted
Nanook/Carote
LC/Ted
LC/Carote

These 4 options feel right in my head, though I'm not sure which line is correct. Still pretty sure there's a scum in slanker, and scum in someone who didn't vote 112 day 1.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:14 pm This is probably going to be my last post for today, it's late and I'm tired ;

I was going to be pissed and scream but I don't think I'm in the position to really criticise the players

It was hard for me to get engaged in this game, I bet it was for other people too, i'm sorry to my villagers if I end up dying here - I really did try my best

Legacy remains - don't yeet Mac. I know he sucked this game and pushed every single villager yeet, however, I still do believe that he's town.

After my flip - please open up your eyes to the fact that Wilgy's in cruise control as of right now and he bullshitted every single scum read. If I'd want anything to be taken from me is this and the Mac read.

If I'm wrong on someone - it's probably Alison. Her being still alive and not being here to reinforce the read I had is bad enough as it is. I guess it would make a lot of sense with how we've been struggling to yeet a wolf all this time. This only applies in YeLo scenarios still and if Wilgy flips town after my death.

Proto, don't fucking tunnel Mac please. I know he was wrong ; that doesn't make people scum.

that's all

follow my legacy if you're going to flip me, please.

AH, the 'their reads are bullshit' without explaining why then dipping. Care to actually argue my progression towards you? Or how about how I'm interacting with people? 'His reads are bullshit.' is dumb and fake. Small effort argument.

Now, I will say, in spite of your blurb here rubbing me the wrong way. There is merit in the fact that it could come from a frustrated civilian. FOR some reason, I don't see this as the same frustrated civ that I've seen before in you, could be a mood thing or could be the fact that I was scum in pyre, BUT I don't.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:10 pm I feel like we are overlooking the fact that Wilgy fits the bill of "scum lurker that fits on the Monte diamond of scum" fairly nicely

I don't really see why nobody's considering him.

His only slightly convincing push was on me, which was for a vote I made 13 hours before EoD and his view on the game stops there.

I don't like the fact that he's forcing his read on me in a way that is bullshit. This guy played Pyre and saw my emotions, and I was town there.

He literally has no reason to vote me over Nanook here from his PoV.

Wrong.

Don't like your lines, and I don't like your d1 action. I think that's plenty.

(this makes me feel better about Nanook though assuming Ted is scum)

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:47 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME How do you feel about Wilgy pushing a narrative on you while he's pushing me for irrelevant stuff? Why do you think he isn't more sure about you toDay especially after having previous suspicion on you?

Dumb to ask Nanook outside of you wanting a narrative coming from someone besides me.

I'm voting you because I think you are scum. I'd vote Nanook as well on policy. I don't have 2 votes.

Recent Carote blurb

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:55 pm Long Con
ColinIsCool
Carotenoid
Alison
protocultures
DrWilgy
tedxtr
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm partway through Day 1 here, and this is where my feelings are at. I sit, I read for a bit, I get up to get back to RL projects... don't expect me to plow through the whole game today, more like 1-2 pages every hour or two.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:54 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:51 pm I want Carote thoughts. How do we feel about the rabbit?
What are your thoughts about me?
Felt like you belong in towncore with your 112 vote and your behavior seems in line with your town behavior from pyre.

The towncore getting bopped makes me want to review you further, BUT nothing from you stands out as indicative of being wolf.
I didn't vote 112 though

Interesting. Even more of a review warranted then because must've confused you with someone else. Your behavior matching pyre still stands.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:51 pm I want Carote thoughts. How do we feel about the rabbit?
What are your thoughts about me?

Felt like you belong in towncore with your 112 vote and your behavior seems in line with your town behavior from pyre.

The towncore getting bopped makes me want to review you further, BUT nothing from you stands out as indicative of being wolf.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:53 pm Wilgy, 10000calories may have been slanking, but he was town, and so am I. What makes you think the game is as easy as slankers are Mafia?

Game tempo day 2 and 3-ish

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:51 pm Also, that was said when 112 and I had the lead in votes. It's possible that it was offered as the start of a counterwagon to 112 without directly jumping on me.

Other thing to note is that 112 was on me. Perhaps an avoidance of the th/Wilgy wagon was to distance while still offering an option.
You're really quoting the post Colin referenced, a vote that was made at 2 PM, 12 hours or so before EoD and attributing it to me defending my scum buddy?

How do you expect that vote saves my "buddy" there? I didn't even look at the vote count , that argument is ludicrous. I just voted and then moved on.

Yes lol. Also kickstarting wagons is necessary if you are scum if you need to save a teammate. (Especially with enough time.)

Also it's not an argument, just a line of thought. Your response to this was not quite what I expected and strangely harsh in comparison to what I would have expected.

I want Carote thoughts. How do we feel about the rabbit?

Also, allow me to voice a concern or opinion about this game.

With how much presence town seemed to have earlier in the game, I was of the opinion that the likely remaining scummeroonies were either a negative to neutral voter day 1 and a slanker.

Being 1 of 3 slankers probably makes it much easier for me to say well lets lynch the other two...

...BUT I STILL FEEL THAT IS CORRECT DAMMIT!

I can support this. I'll vote Ted and we'll see how the people feel.

(Though if y'all want to vote Nanook or LC, I won't stop you)

(Also Tutuu changed their profile pic. For a half minute there, I thought there was someone I didn't know of in the game d1.)

Imma say that if Mac is bad here, give that boy a cookie.

I know he's a dubious one, but I just really don't think this is a world where Mac bad.

Also, that was said when 112 and I had the lead in votes. It's possible that it was offered as the start of a counterwagon to 112 without directly jumping on me.

Other thing to note is that 112 was on me. Perhaps an avoidance of the th/Wilgy wagon was to distance while still offering an option.

Going back through EoD1 to clear up some schitt i missed.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:59 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 am [VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

think his reads are barely progressing and most of the ones that are being changed are done for surface level reasoning that don't show depth of thought
feels opportunistic

I agree with this and wanted to bring this one back up.

Ted/Nook or Ted/LC?

[mention]protocultures[/mention] why Mac over LC, Nanook and I specifically?

It's possible. Less confident in my Mac read. Just hard to see why scum Mac would bus day 1 instead of attempt a save.

Like it would need to be instructed by 112 in wolf chat to have then killed imo.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:18 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:11 am I'm back. Sorry for missing yesterday, mixed up which days the thread would be open and thought I had more time.

Why aren't we lynching Nanook?
Same reason why we aren’t yeeting you or LC, there’s so little to actually scum read that we don’t know for sure who’s the scum, just that they’re likely to be lurkers / off-wagonners.

Well, perhaps we should murk the people who were actively on civ wagons day 1. I think it's silly that Nanook isn't being discussed as much as it should be.

Even a policy yeet on 10k or me should probably be more in discussion if content is the issue.

Re yesterday, I probably would've voted Nanook again without crying about TSP getting yeeted.

I don't feel as confident in proto as I was day 2, BUT they are still likely town. Sad to see our towncore decimated.

I'm back. Sorry for missing yesterday, mixed up which days the thread would be open and thought I had more time.

Why aren't we lynching Nanook?

I keep reading people on the lines of "who bussed?" And even Urist's most recent post seems to indicate that line of thinking during day 1.

As an exercise, I'd like people to tell me who is bad if no one bussed. Mine are Nook and Urist.

Nook feels off. Not sure how to describe his play outside of detached.

Urist's "vote momentum on 112 makes them civ" doesn't make sense and feels more forced than I'm comfortable with.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:25 am 112 was clearly not going to wiggle out of that yeet, they didn't look like they even wanted to. Choosing to save them would mean that scum team essentially accepts defeat.

Ted can you expand on this? How would the save attempt mean an acceptance of defeat?

It's my understanding that there was at least some real suspicion in Alison as not all 5 could've been scum and that the votes were close.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:17 pm Cool I'm okay still voting turnip head today then.

Seems lazy. Talk to me about this.

I'll policy dunk the she shit out of someone. Gibe the word.

Im intoxicated and thing the enemy team is Nanook and TSP.

AMA

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:17 pm wilgy is probably town

Talk to me about this. What makes you think this?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:47 pm Per anything else i have no read on urist and don't care to think about it.

I dislike this.

Even I have a read on urist even if it's mostly thread biased/artificial. There's no way you are null.

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