The Syndicate

I suppose my suspicion on DDL was warranted because that came from a place of "this dude has info" and that was technically correct...

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Linki: Jack, while I agree that PoE wad the right strategy, a PoE should account for afk's beyond other factors first to narrow the scope as much as possible (given a time table of course).

Good Game all. I'm glad my distrust of Sloonbugi was correct. Further happier that me realizing he wasn't my win condition was also correct.

Dissapointed at how bad I was at mafia hunting this game though. My suspicion on Drago was entirely misplaced.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:35 pm I still think it's Wilgy.

#LYNCHJACK!!!

INFAMY

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:01 am Hahaha. I just learned something hilarious and unfortunate that's about to happen.

I'll call it unfortularious.

How is it hilarious and unfortunate that you escaped lynch?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:00 pm And how would you "just learn" that?

Because I forgot about it until then. I don't always opt for suicide. It normally works when I do though.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:26 am Wilgy, what roles do we have that can survive a lynch, or make someone survive a lynch?

Barry and Deathstroke to my knowledge.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:09 am Oh cool. That probably means we were right.

Probably is a strong word for a 50/50 chance based on the known remaining roles.

EVERYONE. PLEASE REMEMBER HOW PUSHY SLOONEI HAS BEEN TOWARDS ME WHEN I'M GONE.

I'd be more useful to town if I get through the NK, so I'd advise to settle for the lynch that will surely happen tomorrow. If we still have town kills avaliable, let's kill Funnygirl or Sloonei. At this point, shit all feels like legacy posting, but my legacy post will be more useful tomorrow.

Worst case scenario, both sloonei and I die for no reason and we have afew more myslinches left.

Hahaha. I just learned something hilarious and unfortunate that's about to happen.

I'll call it unfortularious.

That comment should have literally no meaning.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:28 pm Who am I voting for?

Just kill me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:22 pm The host insn't around and hasn't killed you. Who is Slade?

I don't think it's Jack or Mac. Anyone else os fair game with tendencies towards Funny, Daisy, Colin, you and Sloon.

Also let it be known I'm playing with a town that follows their poe, before clipping the afks when the kill was missed.

MAY THIS LYNCH GO DOWN IN INFAMY!

#hammermedaddy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:18 pm The only player who could potentially gain more than Zero from intentionally withholding a kill is Wilgy, I think. He's already Hot Stuff #1 in the POE, so he there's nothing he can really lose at this point. Abstaining from the kill forces us to speculate about whether or not it was simply forgotten.

The fact that we are entertaining the idea that it was intentionally missed is dumb.

W/e if the 6 myslinch is true, then count me out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:30 pm Also I've been on a tabletop gaming binge. I think the way I play those games is seeping into my mafia gameplay.

Whatcha playing?

Age of Sigmar mostly.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:30 pm Also I've been on a tabletop gaming binge. I think the way I play those games is seeping into my mafia gameplay.

Rolling dice and hoping for the best?

How is that any different than what you usually do?

Dice is the same. Wargaming brings out my aggression for some reason. Some Wilgys just want ti see the world burn I suppose.

Also I've been on a tabletop gaming binge. I think the way I play those games is seeping into my mafia gameplay.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:18 pm You got really, really serious now that the mafia are all gone and there's only Deathstroke.

With the game being slower, it has become easier for me to express my thoughts and stay involved.

Plus this is the first weekend in two weeks where Im not traveling.

*pros and cons.

Also you are now thinking of my naked body.

Colin perhaps could also miss?

I'd predict we have maybe 2 mlre safe cycles? I could yell and scream at the endless void of uncaring stars and could even throw my naked body into a volcano in ritualistic sacrifice but that won't make the wallflowers talk.

Do we want to use these safe cycles to lynch the wallflowers? If Oliver is still alive we could be rid of both Daisy and Girl tonight yes?

Someone smarter than me list the prps and cons to this strategy.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:07 pm I don’t get how you are making that leap. My suggestion came from a mindset of patience for this day phase. In the event that somebody did prevent last night’s kill, that person should have a greater chance of identifying who Deathstroke is. My goal was to encourage people to wait before hammering on you. It’s the same reason I moved my vote off of you too.

That’s it. I do not know what motive you are suggesting I had. Maybe you’re not suggesting any particular motive at all.

The motive would come from a deflecting deathstroke who just had their kill blocked. While I do not beleive that to be the likeliest case. The possibility is there.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:18 pm If there was no kill at all last night, who’s Deathstroke? Daisy or funnygurl would have been the most likely to simply forget, I think.

I can’t see Epi or Mac withholding a kill for “strategic” gain. I don’t think that’s in Jack’s playbook either. I can’t say with confidence that I know Long Con, Colin, or sprit would never make that move, but none of them really stand to gain anything by doing it here. Maybe sprit could be a candidate for forgetting to submit, but I feel like he’s been attentive enough to not drop the ball here.

I agree with this.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:05 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm We also do know that only Deathstroke needs to die for town to win.

Yes, but do the pther 3rd party players need to survive? A deflection or forced push could be a direct result of that need to surive of other third party just as much as deathstroke.

Hell, Prometheus or time mage man may be stalling for time to achieve their win conditions by not actually hunting for all we know.

Is this still related to my suggestion that the nightkill was prevented rather than not submitted?

Somewhat but it did stray from the subject. That response of mine was also in conjuncture with your "I dont need to do anything to ensure in not being lynched." To which I was pointing out, you might be lying because deathstroke isnt the only 3rd party.

Simply put I'm saying, I don't think your suggestion came from a civ mindset. Perhaps not deathstroke, but not a civ mindset.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm We also do know that only Deathstroke needs to die for town to win.

Yes, but do the pther 3rd party players need to survive? A deflection or forced push could be a direct result of that need to surive of other third party just as much as deathstroke.

Hell, Prometheus or time mage man may be stalling for time to achieve their win conditions by not actually hunting for all we know.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:45 am I see a no kill and I assume it was prevented by night actions.

Wilgy accuses me of “bullshit” while voting for another player. We only have one bad guy left.

Yes, but there are multiple 3rd parties. We don't know what they do and we don't know how they win. 1 "baddie" to slay but 3 in total possibly that are only trying to cover their own ass. That assumption of yours could very much be forced to ensure you weren't lynched.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:27 am Guys.

Epi is bad and just no you'd

You are following a now you.

When did Epi want me dead prior or suspect me for being bad? What behavior of mine makes me indy before voting me?

Jack I would like for you to explain your poe. I trust you amd I do not want you to die.

I don't care that you "suspected" me first, and neither should anyone else. That isn't how this works, and you know that.

I don't care that I did not suspect you of being the killer until recently, and neither should anyone else. That isn't how this works, and you know that.

What behaviors should we be looking for in identifying an independent killer?

3rd party behaviors normally reflect a fringe playstyle that very much goes with the flow tendency in most cases. Observable patters of this can be seen in their "hunting" because it needs to not draw as much heat. It does vary from person to person, but the players that are hardest to read, or I suppose, are being harder to read than their meta entails should be looked at. I would say you fall into this category.

In a scenario where the mafia or other killing parties are weaker than normal, I can also see a scenario where a 3rd party openly supa towns if their record has been good. MacDougall falls into this category, but I think this is less likely than the first due to the many kill angle nature of this game.

Lastly, an indi can be observed by unciv like tendencies. This can be observed through ulterior motives, information or ability leaking, or recognition of nonsensical conclusions. I believe Colin and Sloonei fit this one.

In spite of all this, unless Sloonei is town and knew that the kill was somehow negated, it is more likely that the kill was missed. Perhaps it was Daisy, perhaps it was Lux. Hard to say when there's a wallflower in play.

Lock n loaded. Sloonei or Epi.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:40 am Sounded like Deathstroke no showed tbh.

And this is why Sloonei's assumption on something interfering with the kill is bullshit.

I don't get why that would be your first guess.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:48 pm Second. Someone prevented the kill from happening, I assume.

Where does this assumption come from? You did not target me and stop a kill. Did someone target you and stop a kill?

Guys.

Epi is bad and just no you'd

You are following a now you.

When did Epi want me dead prior or suspect me for being bad? What behavior of mine makes me indy before voting me?

Jack I would like for you to explain your poe. I trust you amd I do not want you to die.

If we have any town night kills. I advise we kill Epi or Sloonei.

This has become silly. Lets hammer lux and move along.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:27 am Does Luxurious not exist Wilgy?

Lux exists, but I just don't care when it comes to them dying. I'm neither for nor against it. Unlike Epi, I don't feel that is indicative of Lux's alignment. Perhaps that is a meta call.

Aye. I vote hammer.

I don't think that discussion should take a backseat and still beleive there is plenty of snooping to do.

I feel that it would be wise to lynch sloonei at this point. I feel like there would be absolutely no way to tell the difference between town sloon and indy sloon. My lingering gut bad feeling from earlier may have been an indicator of an indy pattern I might have picked up on? Not too sure.

Colin is also a person I would like to lynch. His push related gameplay could've stemmed from independent play as well because "as long as it aint me" is something to keep an eye out for being an indy tendency and all.

I realized that Epignosis has almost completely avoided my reads and feelings this game. Perhaps it's intentional. Something to keep an eye out on. I wouldn't be opposed to his lynching as well I suppose.

That makes my list. Colin, Sloon, and Epi.

I wouldn't lymch LC, Mac, or Jack at this point. Mac is the one I'm least sure of in this list, but still feel strongly about it.

DDL is my arrow vote.

Probably Colin.

Or DDL.

Actually it's sloonei.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:27 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:25 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:24 pm Whatvif I were to yell CFD sloonei really loudly?

You might damage some eardrums.

Well you can't stop me.

EVERYONE LET'S KILL SLOONEI. HE DOESN'T LIKE PUPPIES.

I can tolerate suspicion, but this is an accusation I will not stand for.

Well... You don't need to get up. Stay seated my friend. Make sure to die horribly

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:25 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:24 pm Whatvif I were to yell CFD sloonei really loudly?

You might damage some eardrums.

Well you can't stop me.

EVERYONE LET'S KILL SLOONEI. HE DOESN'T LIKE PUPPIES.

Whatvif I were to yell CFD sloonei really loudly?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 1:01 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 12:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 12:41 am @DrWilgy
Your avatar looks like a MTG card.

[VOTE: Lux] aubergine

It's the new Ashiok.

I guessed right.

My favorite MTG character is Standard Blue Mage Jace.

The new book ruined multiple characters for me. Jace included. RIP.

I think Liliana is still my favorite character in spite of her whole "My magic and lust for power are evil but I'm still good deep down" cliche.

Nahiri is a close 2nd.

I didn't even know people were suspecting him for anything in particular. His push on mata wasn't Civ/Civ.

I just have little further to pursue.

Colin needs to die on premise of dragos actions.

Ddl felt bad and I want to see where that goes.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 2:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 2:04 am I'm between Colin and DDL.

I agree with funny that ddl feels off.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 10:47 pmCan you not just please state why so Sloonei doesn't have to ask you why?

Not this time sloonbeard.

I'm between Colin and DDL.

I agree with funny that ddl feels off.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 11:28 pm The post I just made is mostly speculation.

Coward

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 5:25 pm Best Fate is actually Carnival Phantasm wherein the whole damn series is reimaged as a Japanese game show.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 7:00 pm i spent 6 hours today reading this thread o_______________O

Now go do it again.

*chuckles in 7d*

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 5:15 pm Btw I’m scum.

This is true.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 12:12 am Sloonei is not civilian.

Literally me since day 1.

Can we do this now? Sloondog or Drago.

[mention]Luxurious[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] wanna start a cult?