The Syndicate

That's all my @'s will be back in a few

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:45 am hmm fair

@Porscha take on wilgy? @DrWilgy take on Robyn?

The big blocks of text feel almost intentionally hard to read. Their read on me is doo doo. I haven't really read much since the other night of deep dive into the game though.

Re their read on me, gut states that it's kinda wolfy. Omgus aside, if Robyn's read is genuine and just bad it's also game losing. Makes a scenario where I'm either to hope Robyn is wolf, OR if I find t Robyn and don't vote there that 3p (you) would townside.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:09 pm @DrWilgy [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

If you’re town please help. Who’s your top suspect?

My track record is really good in lylo but I can’t solve everything (though I can try )

Been busy.

PoE still contains Porscha, Stick, Delta, Robyn.

Still game losing.

Baker's out of PoE via dichotomy with Robyn. Robyn vouching is of 3 options 1. a correct civ 2. a wolf with tmi 3. A wolf shielding buddy.

Any of these situations Robyn's in control of the dichotomy and to be yeeted first.

I do intend on deeper diving this evening when the kids are asleep.

Dejected entrance into d4.

We've misyeeted 3, 1 who wasn't here and 2 who kinda just gave up and decided to die.

I guess LC didn't self vote at least.

Feels like a "I can only do so much" kinda game.

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:53 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:52 pm And like I said, your flip helps the D2 more than LC and it helps me solve Baker.

Bit of you are wolfy though, it really doesn't matter which of my PoE goes over. You are PoE.
in what way do you have my flip tied to baker's?
Not W/W if Baker is correct on you then I can trust Robyn's read on the slot and stop being paranoid about it.
i can tell you for free we're not w/w so you may trust robin's read there

yw!!

Ty

Delta wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:50 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:47 pm Would anyone entertain my fears and kill Porscha here?

& for those who were around, how were you reading Abi before?
Not now.

I think LC is wolfy and I think Stick is Wolfy.

LC's flip answers questions about d1 that are important, Sticks answers questions about D2 that are important.

Stick also seems to help me in my read on Baker, so I think it's of more value.
But Wilgy

When have our flashwagons ever gone wrong? :^)

:^)

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:52 pm And like I said, your flip helps the D2 more than LC and it helps me solve Baker.

Bit of you are wolfy though, it really doesn't matter which of my PoE goes over. You are PoE.
in what way do you have my flip tied to baker's?

Not W/W if Baker is correct on you then I can trust Robyn's read on the slot and stop being paranoid about it.

And like I said, your flip helps the D2 more than LC and it helps me solve Baker.

Bit of you are wolfy though, it really doesn't matter which of my PoE goes over. You are PoE.

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:47 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:46 pm i actually still dont really understand why wilgy flipped his TR of me from early game but it's ok, dont have to worry about that if LC flips wolf
Then you didn't read me.

I think I was decently clear and concise about it.
all i remember is me being a hedgy? and you prefer that over LC? why?

Super hedgey behavior and your fluff to conclusions for how many posts you have was mainly my qualms with your slot.

Delta wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:47 pm Would anyone entertain my fears and kill Porscha here?

& for those who were around, how were you reading Abi before?

Not now.

I think LC is wolfy and I think Stick is Wolfy.

LC's flip answers questions about d1 that are important, Sticks answers questions about D2 that are important.

Stick also seems to help me in my read on Baker, so I think it's of more value.

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:48 pm idt it's a great idea to bring it closer to a tie when someone could 'accidentally' end it as exactly a tie and we dont get a NK again and tomorrow is the same dance

Cool, then we yeet whoever does it.

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:46 pm i actually still dont really understand why wilgy flipped his TR of me from early game but it's ok, dont have to worry about that if LC flips wolf

Then you didn't read me.

I think I was decently clear and concise about it.

[VOTE: Stick] aubergine

I'm here ish.

I see our consolidated options are LC and Stick.

Both seem fine to me.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:48 am The kids won't let me sleep tonight send help
Read out Robyn's wallpost to them

Lmao

The kids won't let me sleep tonight send help

Delta wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:39 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:38 am
Delta wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:37 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:35 am i dont buy the whole afk team theory btw, and i like your slot for having naked voted LC d1
Go pocket someone else I'm reading

we killed the strongest town pr d1 hope youre proud
A JOAT no less

*Champs G1 flashbacks*

I've caught up.

Someone let me know if we are voting Stick/LC or Delta.

Tyvm.

Gn.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:58 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:39 am @MartinGG99 @Long Con @DrWilgy @Scotty

lets vote for actual scumreads, garebare can be flashwagoned eod. dont waste the day imo.
I’m not looking to waste the day, and agree

I had a fitful sleep (don’t worry, it wasn’t mostly Mafia related, mostly coughing up Christmas) but I’m currently of the mind that the lack of NKs are one of two things:
-we actually do have that canoneer that I think Robyn suggested.
-only one mafia is assigned the kill of the team a la how SVS’ role functioned in Ted Lasso.

I can totally see the latter as this case, as it would explain why things are so quiet. Garebear.

And by association, I feel like garebear’s partner would be LOSING. THEIR. MIND. Wouldn’t surprise me if they came out swinging for Garebear this phase because he’s an actual liability for progressing the game state. OR has absolutely no wim the past day (LC/robyn/abbi). Maybe even Stick? But less so

Only one scum being able to kill was such a weird mech fmpov. I would've argued that this would be just not be a thing if it wasn't for it.

I'd still argue that if the killing W is afk, making a teammate go insane with the inability to submit for them would just feel bad for that player and really makes me think that's not the case.

If it's afk wolf theory, I do think it's the Porscha/Delta team.

Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:14 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:42 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am Stick: What if there are 0 wolves between dm/baker, then who are the wolves? [P#495]
oh did i say there had to be one between them? my bad, i dont think theyre a difference check
you know what IS a difference check, though?

wilgy and LC

i will be surprised if this is two villagers, and im positive they arent w/w

Where does this dichotomy come from? Feels plucked out of a hat.

Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:40 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am It’s just strange behavior from wigly, i’m used to someone that would not be ultra manipulative or aggressive, he’d talk it out and try to find DM’s alignment and instead he went and decided to suspect her from the first sign that DM suspected wigly. They just wolfed together so wigly should have a rand< read on her and DM should have a rand< read on DM and her general aesthetic and general weakness when it comes to writing and expressing themself. Which is all to say that nobody is illogical and i think that dm correctly self voted after the blatant manipulation and aggression that wigly showed. If i had to bet dm would leave a legacy that says kill wigly
ohh nice meta. ive only played with w!wilgy so when i saw different i equated it to town

maybe im wrong

This is kinda the exact "keeping my options open" type stuff I keep feeling from your slot.

To me this reads as "oh sweet, perhaps I'll get to vote this slot maybe now." Without providing anything else to Robyn's arguments.

Ugh. I had a fully detailed read list written out to Stick and my phone are it on accidental refresh. Bare bones is below.

Scotty: townie. We seem to have similar thoughts re the game and players present.

Porscha: null. Within scope of afk wolf theory. Seemed to have vote resistance d1 as observed by Martin and Baker.

Robyn: null. Catch up process seems genuine. Not within scope if afk wolf theory.

LC: wolfy. D1 should be reviewed. D2 was a strict drip in momentum with a very off putting EoD regarding treatment of the DM slot. Refuting meta arguments towards DM in spite of being in F5 of timelines is weird.

MR: townie. Posts seem to be from town mindset whenever I see them.

Stick: wolfy. Hedgey behavior appears to be in line with a player keeping their options open. Far too few conclusions from this slot with so many posts.

Delta: null. Center of afk wolf theory.

Baker: wolfy. See above.

Martin: townie. Their thinking isn't inherently straightforward to me, but it at least seems to be townie. Has good equity against those I find wolfy.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 am um
i'm gonna try to like. read at least some of the game before end of day tomorrow but i'm still not feeling well so no guarantees

is there someone who is like lock town in case I need to sheep vote tomorrow?

Consensus is that MR has their head on straight. I'd start there.

@robyn re Baker, I did these reviews towards the end of EoD to reflect on my sr. These still mostly apply.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:09 pm Baker d1

baker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:15 pm i think i am gonna sheep chibi fami on d1
Arbitrary

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:46 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:38 pm
baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:37 pm When is the EoD anyway
22 minutes

fami senpai is still drinking probably.

i am a sucker for early one-tailed directions and saving my energy for later

you mentioned i am less likely to be a wolf & more likely to be a villager

ig i can sheep you instead

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!
[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!
Arbitrary and overly buddy buddy

Baker's d1 was as poor as I remember. They were in and out for most of the day and not one conclusion or rhyme to their reason was provided.

Martin Baker not W/W

Oddly enough, Martin is becoming a much firmer town read as the people I see are unlikely partners to them.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:53 pm Baker D2

Scotty OMGUS hard

Second conclusions are around me and Abi
baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:54 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:29 am
baker wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:53 pm Baker > Abigail > DM is my preferred vote as it stands.

Will vote out of line with Scotty though. [VOTE: DM] aubergine
I will townlean Wilgy for this post. I think we are all thinking Abi looks sus from this but honestly Scotty has been making pushes on a very false narrative that can harm town more. Wilgy voting DM here is a towny reaction to that.
Explain why ?

I think there was an observable difference in your D1 activity compared to what I know of your games in the past

+

Falcon was voting you and the Falcon wagon was formed at EoD which was a CW to yours, people decided to vote on it or vote on slots that weren't yours. You had the highest votes before with Falcon/Scotty. It is possible someone avoided voting you for whatever reason that can't be cleared alignment wise atp
And I don't know what to make of this. Like, it's correct that Abi was at 2 and didn't go to 3, LC did first, but it's inherently incorrect thinking that Falcon was Abi's CW. LC was. LC absolved into Falcon. I guess this is in line with other statements of Abi has neg vote momentum and that's wolfy, but hard to say why that's wolfy? I guess I can see town making that observation in spite of it being wrong? Like a townie gut feeling built on incorrect data? Does a wolf use incorrect data like this as a mistake to make a non ai generalization around a slot?

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
this is an ok prod tbh given the gamestate
this post kinda reeks.

Eh, I'm kinda done with this. Keep getting distracted by the kids.

Baker's ISO is still bad but there's like afew very small bits of interaction that I can see from both angles. I think the thing I found most concerning that I hadn't noticed previously is the tendency to play kinda buddy buddy with afee players.

I get the time constraints make things hard and lack of familiarity makes things hard, but that didn't prevent a strong conclusion being pulled on Scotty during the omgus and that's kinda a big hangup for me.

Regarding the initial read: it was observable early that Baker had too much fluff for how often they'd poke into the thread. They were also present enough to observe yours and Martin's behavior, but couldn't come to any self made conclusions.

When this was called out, Baker was able to HARD omgus and provide a VERY nuanced read of Scotty and that effort hasn't been seen anywhere else.

If that level of nuance can be achieved for an omgus, where is it elsewhere in hunting? The conclusion is that they aren't hunting.

Final bit but minor was their entry into D2 was kinda poot. You can't just enter thread and be like "well I was ready to say it was Wilgy/Abit for reasons I won't detail but gee would you look at the Scotty!"

I've inquired about all this afew times now, but no direct response from Baker's been had, not have I seen the energy put into the game to rectify any of this.

Even in my review, I pointed out something that could be from town Baker, and I'd like to give it more credit re their thoughts on Abi, BUT Martin has basically already said the same thing about the slot. Martin, who Baker has already invested energy into pocketing.

@robyn sure, but gotta feed the kiddos first. Let me do that then I'll big post.

@robyn so page 7 interactions start after I vote the slot

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:41 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:22 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 am catching up soon, but hella SUS of Wilgy's + Martin's vote towards me....
Why would you be sus of that? You haven't been here and are an unknown element that needs to be removed.
why do i need to be removed if im town, im almost convinced youre wolf

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:42 am this is not wilgy town play, at all

How am I supposed to view this other than omgus

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:44 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:41 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:22 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 am catching up soon, but hella SUS of Wilgy's + Martin's vote towards me....
Why would you be sus of that? You haven't been here and are an unknown element that needs to be removed.
why do i need to be removed if im town, im almost convinced youre wolf
How do I know you are town?

What has DM done up to this junction for me to believe they are in their town range?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:44 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:42 am this is not wilgy town play, at all
Define town Wilgy play. You've seen me town twice and Wolf once. I don't think I'm playing like either this game.

They advised I was out of my town meta, but I doubt anyone really knows my ranges, and thus I inquire.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:44 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:42 am this is not wilgy town play, at all
Define town Wilgy play. You've seen me town twice and Wolf once. I don't think I'm playing like either this game.
out of the 3 games, the only time you were voting for me you were wolf, so.... just like this game

This is factually incorrect as I point out below

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:55 am Just gonna put this down here, but your crack back suspicion looks exactly the same as it did when you were wolf in timelines:
viewtopic.php?p=1093219#p1093219
which I did the same thing on Severance when wolves tried to take me out creating a weak, false narrative

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:07 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:55 am Just gonna put this down here, but your crack back suspicion looks exactly the same as it did when you were wolf in timelines:
viewtopic.php?p=1093219#p1093219
which I did the same thing on Severance when wolves tried to take me out creating a weak, false narrative
Fair, double checked as I only remembered you doing it in timelines.
viewtopic.php?p=1083827#p1083827

Your omgus does appear to be nai.

I admit to being wrong on my observation of pattern and even advised Scotty later to not utilize that read

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:09 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:44 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:42 am this is not wilgy town play, at all
Define town Wilgy play. You've seen me town twice and Wolf once. I don't think I'm playing like either this game.
out of the 3 games, the only time you were voting for me you were wolf, so.... just like this game
That's kinda just factually incorrect as I voted you out incorrectly in Ted Lasso.

But further, how am I supposed to know you are town?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:12 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:10 am In both Severance and Ted Lasso you had a means of hunting and searching for wolves that was picked up on.

Where is that this game?
its currently in the works

And then DM said they were working on it, so I let them cook. The only real interactions I had following this are when DM decided to push against me with, like I pointed out, incorrect info that didn't add constructive value to the thread.

So where in this did I gaslight? Where in this did I manipulate? I asked for more, I got more, I even admitted where I was wrong when I was, so where did your conclusion come from Robyn?

Ugh, I don't wanna find post numbers to respond anymore. Maybe I continue the Robyn wall later.

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am Holy fuck wigly didn’t even vote dm at eod that is actually insane. Fmpov he pushed her twice and he fucking voted stick in post P#468 and ended on fucking baker making it so stick had 2 and dm had 4 which just always kills DM while trying to not look bad. And if he stayed on stick and Dm self pres’ed then stick dies instead. What the fuck even is that

Context context context

Yes I ended on Baker, I ended on Baker because literally anything was better than DM as I had found towards EoD. DM didn't make it apparent that they were coming back this making Stick's yeet near impossible. Yes I also pushed DM because I needed DM to be in a readable state. Allowing DM to coast played a big part in our victory in timelines.

It is not a matter of looking good or bad when the player responsible for their misyeet is themselves and it's some what backwards for you to think otherwise.

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am p#389 is also garbage because as of right now baker is my top townread

For context:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:20 pm
baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:06 pm I've already done so
You disagreed with my scumread on Scotty wow

Why did you vote Falcon?
Yo, did you go from micro reading Scotty's nuance to not even trying to read as to why it looked suspicious at your own convenience?

Allow me to make it easier. You fluff posted all of day 1. Bandwagoned a town for little reason. Advised that you had a suspicion of me/Abi without explanation. As soon as you have suspicion you can suddenly go into hyper nuanced reads against the oerson who suspects you BUT also not provide that anywhere else?

To this I say hell no. I need enunciation on why Baker is town, because the randy "this person is clearly town for reasons" has only lead to silliness.

I've been very clear as to why Baker fits the mold of W and there's been very little effort from literally ANYONE to refute it until this point.

In skimming Baker twice to see if my read is valid, there's only been a very brief moment where my thoughts are like "I could be wrong and this is why."

Breaking down @robyns wall post.

wigly scum and wigly immediately gaslights and discredits her. Which is just not what i’d expect of wigly dealing with suspicion because instead of sorting it felt like he got mad and immediately went to discredit her. Especially as DM isn’t the most articulate person here and wigly is quite nice with his rhetoric. I wouldn’t be surprised if Wigly ends up voting DM at eod [i can’t be asked to check my own post to see but this is just to see if my logic holds, and i wonder if wigly found alternate reasoning to vote DM]

Post 386 is just extremely aggressive and i’m not sure why wigly is hardlining for a DM chop based off DM suspecting wigly. He basically asserts that DM is trying to discredit Wigly when that’s literally the opposite of reality, it’s genuine gaslighting. Wigly went and played a w/w game with DM and should know that monroe is just not articulate at all and would get tripped and thrashed in an argument where posturing and rhetoric are being used heavily. DM points out that wigly’s vote d1 was bad and shades him for it which is not inaccurate especially because DM raised concerns about what wigly has been doing. I’m not sure why wigly basically says all theatrically that “This comment really does nothing for you, town OR the gamestate yet you felt the need to do it?” and this quote ends up turning consensus against wigly because he’s essentially refuting shade in an overly aggressive way and is making DM looking quite bad

It’s just strange behavior from wigly, i’m used to someone that would not be ultra manipulative or aggressive, he’d talk it out and try to find DM’s alignment and instead he went and decided to suspect her from the first sign that DM suspected wigly. They just wolfed together so wigly should have a rand< read on her and DM should have a rand< read on DM and her general aesthetic and general weakness when it comes to writing and expressing themself. Which is all to say that nobody is illogical and i think that dm correctly self voted after the blatant manipulation and aggression that wigly showed. If i had to bet dm would leave a legacy that says kill wigly

1st para, you stated that I was gaslighting and discrediting, what specifically are we referring to? Is it the context of the 2nd para?

2nd para, yes, DM made a fallacious argument towards me and I do think it was in the context of DM reacting to me pointing out the patterns I observed in them rather than an informative read. That being the case it didn't advance the game in a way that was constructive. That was very much worth pointing out, as DM's reads need to come from actual context of the thread otherwise I wouldn't be able to read them successfully. It was very much the fact that I played w/w with DM that I knew they needed to be placed on their toes in order for me to tell the difference between their stunted wolf play and their informed town play. It was not at this junction where I had seen the difference yet.

3rd para, I'm not entirely sure, but pretty sure I voiced the DM suspicion before DM omgused me. Their play up until that point was mostly absent, like their wolf game, and I was to solve it by pushing on their slot.

Delta subbing in is great (ilyfam) but I don't think it detracts from the fact that we have two missing nks, 1 fully afk, 1 mostly afk, and we are entering the potential late stage of the game. That has to be worth something.

I guess the easier way to say all that, is there is merit to finding out if either shooting in scummy PoE or shooting in null PoE is better going into potential end game.

What are we willing to be wrong on when we can be wrong on it?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:40 am My issue with the slanky mafia theory is: who is garebear's partner? Who else is inactive enough to have forgotten a kill? I just don't really believe anyone is. Even Robyn showed awareness of the game being on and would've done something in 24h.

So even if garebear is mafia, which is perfectly reasonable, I don't think that necessarily explains the lack of NK because they'll have at least one partner who could've submitted.

Porscha lol. If we are in Slanky wolf world the answer is Porscha.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:42 am I hate voting off 0 posting slots. I find it suboptimal.

Normally I agree

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 am Maybe we're secretly being arsoned or something.

Indeed.

And kinda my thoughts on the entire thing.

Playing the game normally, ignoring the lack of nk, we are at two miss chops. Generally, I assume a game to be balanced around 4 miss chops to wolf victory. Do I desire to have an afk remaining on our last miss chop if we don't vote Delta this cycle. No not really if possible.

That being the case, this is the cycle where we really need to attempt to quantify the value of removing unknown elements. If I follow PoE I'd be in the realm of Stick/LC/Baker as scummy where Robyn/Delta/Porscha are our null slots. Am I confident enough to hit a wolf in the scummy side of PoE? I'd give it like a 60/40 on stick and a 50/50 on the other two. The afk wolf theory at least puts Porscha and Delta up to 55/45 if we shoot in the realm of null. Robyn is still 50/50 as the afk wolf talk doesn't apply to them.

So, are the chances of me being wrong on my read too great to try for one of the scummier players that may be town and may solve the game? With the afk wolf theory, maybe.

Who is stuck in their Pagan ways?
Poll runs till Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
☆Princess Abigail☆/Porscha
1
10%
Voters: Master Radishes
robyn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Stick
1
10%
Voters: baker
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Garebare2468/Delta
4
40%
Voters: MartinGG99, Long Con, DrWilgy, Scotty
baker
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
0
No votes
Voters: None

Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:39 am @MartinGG99 @Long Con @DrWilgy @Scotty

lets vote for actual scumreads, garebare can be flashwagoned eod. dont waste the day imo.

I don't think it's a waste of a day to speculate here. Honestly it's decently important at this stage of the game.

Oh shit waddup Delta.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:46 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:41 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:38 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:32 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:30 am I have taken

A poo
Whose poo did you take
probably macdougall's

he posts while in the bathroom all the time

(or at least I think I remember him saying that a few times in the games I've been in with him)
Unfortunately Mac's has little utility (trust me I've tried)
More off-topic really,

You're such a character wilgy. When I first played with you I was honestly annoyed with how you played and acted but playing here more over the years has made me to enjoy your presence here.

I don't know you'll take that as a compliment or what but its something I felt like admitting.

I'll take it for what it is now, and I too enjoy playing with you my friend. I also get how I come across. Even in my solving, when I'm not being a little shit, I still come across as different. Perhaps it's the way I see the world and perhaps that's how I desire the world to see me (even just a little).

Lol LC and I melded.

This game dumb.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:38 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:32 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:30 am I have taken

A poo
Whose poo did you take
probably macdougall's

he posts while in the bathroom all the time

(or at least I think I remember him saying that a few times in the games I've been in with him)

Unfortunately Mac's has little utility (trust me I've tried)

I've caught up. Not much happened.

Around EoD I was like "well I guess PoE is LC, Stick and Baker and DM died for dumb reasons." Now that I've observed another no kill I'll just do this: [VOTE: Garebare] aubergine

The speculation of wolf being truly afk won't go away until this flip happens.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:32 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:30 am I have taken

A poo
Whose poo did you take

Jay's, just don't tell him. Apparently it'll help people become literate if kept in their pocket.

Stick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:11 pm

if you asked me tho id say let's kill LC today

i will have better insights when it's not 3 am tho

Why

I have taken

A poo

I wouldn't submit a nk. I hate killing my friends.

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:51 pm We could flash LC or Baker...
i forget what your stance on LC was?

Not strong at all, but lackluster D2 and their stance with DM is just weird.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:55 pm I'm just not taking responsibility for it by, like, switching to Stick or something.

That's backwards as all hell lmao

We could flash LC or Baker...

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:48 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:46 pm We've gone full silly this eod
Maybe we should all 600-post next phase.

More info = better solving!

I'll be annoyed when I've found T DM but there's nothing to be done about it because they are voting themselves and I'm putting more effort in trying to be correct on their slot than they are trying to to be alive.

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