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Ah yes. Let's no yeet.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:23 pm I silent voted Kate to tie again and Lucy must have silent voted to fix but its an interesting interaction
I think that this may be a poor representation of me during the Scrabble. Yes, I did question many players that didn't know if my behavior was scummy or not, but I desired for them to draw their own conclusions and my questions were to evaluate as to if those conclusions were genuine.Person A: Well, I don't know what to think re Wilgy vs falcon.
Wilgy: What do you mean you can't tell?? Isn't it obvious that he is bad and I am not?
Yes, disruption during RVS is how data is generated. We were mostly in a chaos state and off topic until I did so. Yes, judging players reactions and votes is how Mafia is played and solved? Though, I feel that you are implying that my judgement was based on votes alone which feels discrediting for no reason.You disrupt someones game, post about it and see how people react to your posts, and you judge them based on whether or not they vote people based on your maybe not true opinions?
woops, sryEpignosis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:54 pmPlease. Thank you.Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:52 pm*shrugs* I largely think I agree with most of what she did. She's not so much a monster as she's made out to beDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:16 pmAye, great character in arcane. I do think that she experienced the worst of it, but I don't think that means they "did nothing wrong". More so that'd take away from what makes her such a strong character.
I can't seem to understand you this game Rondo.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:20 pmIf you believed it you would have voted me. Just hot air and increases your scum equity. This is my last post for this day phaseRoxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:17 pmprove me wrong.
Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:52 pm*shrugs* I largely think I agree with most of what she did. She's not so much a monster as she's made out to beDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:16 pmAye, great character in arcane. I do think that she experienced the worst of it, but I don't think that means they "did nothing wrong". More so that'd take away from what makes her such a strong character.Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:03 pmBabi not boring she's just misunderstood and I maintain that she was treated horribly in Arcane and did nothing wrong
Aye, great character in arcane. I do think that she experienced the worst of it, but I don't think that means they "did nothing wrong". More so that'd take away from what makes her such a strong character.Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:03 pmBabi not boring she's just misunderstood and I maintain that she was treated horribly in Arcane and did nothing wrong
On page one, near the introduction, there is a list of players linked to their ISO.
I think I can understand this perspective, but again, I would be at fault for not considering actions following the flip. My boss... God rest their soul... Would've at least wanted those lines of thought out there.DrWilgy You are playing soooo diff from last game. You are all involved. You are all up in the thread. You have not licked a single sole this game. You have engaged. You have hunted for baddies by leading a elim on a townie but then voted for Neon. Granted you brought both up but only really engaged with falcon. Then as votes were being cast you said "Fascinatingly, I believe if Falcon flips W, Dennis has some pretty significant scum equity...
However, I am unsure how to read the slot without data as must of the posts I've seen from the slot have felt NAI.
If Falcon flips town, I do think it implies a wolf between SVS/Kate. Very interesting indeed..."
like you are setting up for the next days elim without ever taking any of the heat yourself. Color me impressed.
I apologize. I don't think I saw the first message but would be more than happy to go back to it if it was import to you.Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:29 pm @DrWilgy - so no response to my post about your lynch gambit D 1? I guess not since you are sitting pretty after starting the lynch on falcon. You started with susp on falcon AND Neon. You pressed falcon since he responded way more as you only slightly pressed Neon. hen after all your pressing on about falcon you voted Neon after only giving her 2 posts of your time.
Right after your vote you start in with the "if falcon flips..." bs lines of thought. Putting people in the crosshairs of a lynch that *YOU* started.
Then you cleared Neon for no apparent reasoning.
I do think you thought you were slick.
Starting a lynch on a town then after it gets rolling attack those that read up and agreed with you.
It feels like a baddie who was caught with his hands in the cookie jar.
Don't come at me with "well this is my new meta" bc I do buy players that say "that cannot be bc my meta" such a loose pile of crap for a townie to slip in.
Why start a wagon then suspect thse that agreed with you?
Why did you suddenly drop your susp of Neon? I see NO thread progression on it.
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Aye, perhaps there's a misinterpretation in perception. As stated earlier, I threw Falcon off his normal game plan. That was my initial intention and gauging the reaction following to both Falcon and those around him was my intention.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:45 amHow so? I read the thread. You have 41 posts, 18, almost half of them, reference Falcon. Then theres another 5 where you quote him and don't actually type out 'Falcon", so those posts only have his full user name. Most of them were a back and forth with him about why he was bad. I didn't see any 2/3 confidence. Your sureness was why I went back and reread him in the first place.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:25 pmDon't blow my efforts out of the water. I even advised that it was still 2/3 confidence.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:25 pm I am on my way to a holiday party. I may or may not be back in here tonight, and I have another Weds., but I’ll be normal days and tomorrow night.
I’m interested in knowing why Marmot and especially Wilgy pushed so hard on Falcon being bad, to the point that Wilgy pushed back at people who didn’t think Falcon was more suspish than he, Wilgy, was. But then didn’t vote for Falcon.
Marmot said he was gonna be out of thread at EOD so there’s that. But I don’t understand what Wilgy was about.
You say I pushed back? How do? I believe I inquired as to reasons as half of them weren't given.
You pushed back at several people, at me and Sabie specifically for not being sure what to think of it. Then Roxy for saying of you and Falcon, you pinged her more.
You don't get to say, " I believe I inquired as to reasons as half of them weren't given." as if you were just asking for peoples opinions when half of your posts were about "Falcon is wolf", and implying people were bad for thinking YOU might be the wolf.
That said, I get what you're putting out in the post after this one. And it makes alot of sense, but I need to read back interactions to see if I actually believe it.
Don't blow my efforts out of the water. I even advised that it was still 2/3 confidence.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:25 pm I am on my way to a holiday party. I may or may not be back in here tonight, and I have another Weds., but I’ll be normal days and tomorrow night.
I’m interested in knowing why Marmot and especially Wilgy pushed so hard on Falcon being bad, to the point that Wilgy pushed back at people who didn’t think Falcon was more suspish than he, Wilgy, was. But then didn’t vote for Falcon.
Marmot said he was gonna be out of thread at EOD so there’s that. But I don’t understand what Wilgy was about.
This both felt, and feels like a bad take.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:34 pm TonyStarkPrime - Town
Neon - Town
Roxy - Town(Could be wolf with Falcon)(Not wolf with Finger)
sabie12 - Town (Possible TMI on my slot)
fingersplints - Soft Town (Not wolf with Wilgy)(Not wolf with Roxy)
Dennis - Soft Town (Not wolf with Wilgy)
Kate - Soft Town (Deep wolf potential)
Lemonfairy - Soft Town
Epignosis - Null
RondoDimBuckle - Null
Lucy - Upper POE
Quin - Upper POE(Not wolf with falcon)
falcon45ca - Upper POE(Not wolf with Quin)(could be wolf with Roxy)
Marmot - Lower POE
DrWilgy - Lower POE (Not wolf with Finger)(Not wolf with Dennis)
S~V~S - Lower POE
Wilgy should have told everyone by now that I am impossible to read and that scum reading me for no posting is a strange position for anyone to take. This is not a defence of Falcon. They should be counter wagons to each other. If Wilgy is right then Falcon needs to go. SVS and Him can potentially have been working the game from two different angles to get into the town core.
I also note that Kate/Quin/SVS the 3 I called out are all on Falcon. So I may have to adjust my reads back.
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Especially since he isnt on the wagon he started.
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I am not saying that it is incorrect to vote him.Kate wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:04 pmDude, he posted like he was in a chatroom. Why would anyone not vote for him? I'm legitimately baffled by your take on this.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:00 pm Fascinatingly, I believe if Falcon flips W, Dennis has some pretty significant scum equity...
However, I am unsure how to read the slot without data as must of the posts I've seen from the slot have felt NAI.
If Falcon flips town, I do think it implies a wolf between SVS/Kate. Very interesting indeed...
SVS, what is your opinion on the other Falcon voters?
You feel pinged by me, why?Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:17 pm My fave christmas party was when I took my older sister to mine and she was passed out drunk in my car before we finished the salad course. Lmao. I stayed and had two desserts then went home.
I cannot believe Rondo hasn't come back. He is my strongest ping for day one. I'm gonna vote:Rondo.
I see falcon taking votes but tbh I feel more pinged by the good Dr Wigly. So I cannot see me voting for falcon.
The Kate and Dennis back and forth has me - intrigued - but tbf I am a yet undecided on them.
Lemon welcome. I do not suspect or vote newbies day 1. Your welcome.
And this is re SVS as well.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:33 pm In the Wilgy/falcon dispute, I definitely agree with Wilgy about falcon, and between the two think Wilgy is more likely to be town atm.
I do think that sabie means what she said about Wilgy, thinking that him pushing falcon for not doing anything when there wasn't much to do, although I don't agree with her on it, as I think Wilgy is more multi-dimensional than her recollection suggests.
@sabie12 what do you make of falcon at this point?
This'll suffice. Hopefully my boss approves.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:29 pm19 (22 with a +3 marmot modifier)DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:28 pmRoll a 20 for me.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:20 pm I've had a busy last few days, and also won't be around for deadline today because I have DND. But I'll contribute what I can in the next couple of hours before I have to leave.
@Kate who's your top suspect at the moment (I'm going to assume it isn't Epignosis).
Roll a 20 for me.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:20 pm I've had a busy last few days, and also won't be around for deadline today because I have DND. But I'll contribute what I can in the next couple of hours before I have to leave.
@Kate who's your top suspect at the moment (I'm going to assume it isn't Epignosis).
So my understanding is correct, you find SVS and Lucy's interactions worth examination, but conclusions cannot be drawn yet due to a lack of data?sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:01 am So I did say that this game is a little easier to keep up with and I like that it's slower paced, buuuut SVS is right that, that does make it a little slower to get going and I'm a slower to start player as it is. I just logged on, on my computer and it is so much easier to read. So I am going through and rereading the game from the beginning since it's not that many pages. The first three pages are mostly the OT stuff. One of the things that stood out to me is the interactions between SVS, lucy and then Dennis added in. A lot of focus on what happened last game and then the discussion of whether they could have btsc or not based on their interactions. SVS seems to be townreading lucy and I can see that she seems to be less talkative this game so her play style seems a little different, but it's still early. So the conversations seemed organic so probably not teamed up, but something to keep in mind for later if it becomes relevant.
Then there was the falcon and wilgy interactions. It seems like wilgy thought falcon should be hunting more, but there hadn't been much going on yet and then falcon thought that made wilgy scummy for saying that about him so early. So seems like wilgy was maybe too quick to come to that conclusion and it didn't feel like a real read, but wasn't presented as a general push for falcon to participate more. It may be because I haven't been here in awhile, but it seems out of character for wilgy this early on.
Several years ago, I convinced my bosses it would be a good event for the company to have them all consume Carolina Reapers if our metrics were good enough.Mongoose wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:11 pm Noontime Check-in/Optional Prompt:
What’s the best office party (holiday or otherwise) you’ve ever attended?
My answer: Last night my husband @reywaS (who will literally never see this because he “forgot” his password) attended a holiday party thrown by the fitness studio owners where I teach yoga. It was held at one of those family fun zones where they have arcade games, ski-ball, Go-Karts, laser tag, batting cages, mini golf, VR games etc. The studio owners rent the entire place out for us fitness instructors and our families so it’s a great time.
Time is ticking - Get your Day 1 votes in!
I'm genuinely curious here SVS as it appears that you are tip toeing. You state your intent to sort Falcon vs Me, but then instead of drawing a conclusion you put wolf associated actions to both of Falcon and I. Why is this? Is it possible for this to be W/W in your perspective?S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:33 am @Neon Thanks, that's what I thought.
Well, as others have said, it's been the fluffiest of fluffy threads so far. But I know I have been being quiet, for reasons besides the fluff, although that contributes.Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:46 pm fingersplints: town
lucy: town
Roxy: town
Neon: probably town
Sabi: mommy
SVS: maybe mafia (although the more she posts the more I trend away from this)
falcon: probably a wolf
DrWilgy: uwu
Kate: not obviously town (which I am taking to be slightly wolf-indicative based on seeing her as obv!town last game)
Lemonfairy: hi
On Day Zero, as soon as the thread opened Rondo was in here posting. Falcon came in a minute later, then over the next 15 minutes or so, me, Kate and Quin came in. There was chatting about the tea poll, bitching about the PG-13 warning yada yada yada.
Rondo proclaimed a bit later that me, Kate and Quin were the bad team,
So he picked the 3rd, 4th and 5th persons to post. I assumed it was a joke (although nothing he ever posts reads like a joke to me, I can't read him at all after the one game), and moved on.
When I came into the thread after Day one started, I saw he was still on that, and had voted for me.
I'm like, Is this a joke, does he mean it? After the last game I am vaguely terrified of him (only low key kidding here). He came in to the last game like a force of nature (but he subbed in and i know when I sub in I try to establish my civ credentials early), and they kept blazing the whole game. Everyone else seems to be ignoring it, but I have been waiting for him, and he hasn't come back. It's just weird to me that he picked 3, 4, 5 even if a joke. He's usually here in the AM, my time, when I'm here, and hasn't been the last 2 days. There could be civ reasons for this, or just random Rondo reasons, and not gonna let myself get derailed by fear of being derailed, if that makes sense.
So I'm gonna stop worrying about it.
Re your list, I haven't seen anything to think Splints or Roxy is bad, but nothing to say they're sure town either. Same for Kate. In LGM, I read Kate right, but otherwise was pretty much wrong about most of my friends (I thought Mata was bad early, but I backed off, so that doesn't count imo). Kate is easier to read with Golden in the game (and I recall this going back 10 and more years ago, to other sites). They seem to have an inherent understanding of each other, and I tend to town read them both via the light they reflect off of each other, if that makes sense. She's a little cagier without that. Even in Game 1, where he was bad, he did a really good job of approximating that. So she's a harder read for me without him in thread. And she called me "Little Lady" which counts for hilarity points.
Dennis also seems less engaged than last game, but that day one towncore feel isn't here that was in his first game. He was lucky, I think, to have his first game rand civ into a game like that.
I also think Lucy is town, and to extra annoy her, she's the only person close to town lock for me.
I haven't seen Neons early game. She IS different to LGM, but like Rondo, she subbed in and when you sub in you want to make a civvie splash coming in the door.
You voted for Quin, but he's not on your list. I tend to read him as bad, why did you vote for him.
I am trying to sort the falcon/Wilgy thing. Why does falcon think that after a 48 hour fluff-fest someone should be assured of his affiliation? I'm not 100% sure I understand either side of that 1/1 with him and Wilgy. He seems legit upset about it, and I'm not sure why. I think he plays a fairly blendy civ game on short acquaintance, and he took a lot of suspish for it last game. But Wilgys reasons for suspecting him seem a bit forced to me, although I would imagine a bad Wilgy would just lick people and not bother to list suspects at all.
I mean, NO ONE had been hunting much up to the time he said this. So this is kinda looking like a tempest in a teapot. Heh.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:16 pmYes. I think Town Falcon who is present early would have a minor interest in scouting...
This does not appear to be present so far.
Neon has seemed to drastically shift meta to come out guns blasting. Neon is a player who is good at finding town and going from there... Not this behavior we see now.
Now, I should continue my efforts at home.
I think this is not the game Lemonfairy wanted to play, so they are basically shitposting so far. They seem to be a charming person, so they are charming shitposts, like someone spamming you with rainbows.
I will be home today, I'll be in and out.
I find myself in agreement with your Roxy read.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:30 amRoxy and lucy both randed mafia last game, and they seem to be playing much differently this time around to start things off.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:01 amWhy are Roxy, fingers and Lucy town?Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:46 pm fingersplints: town
lucy: town
Roxy: town
Neon: probably town
Sabi: mommy
SVS: maybe mafia (although the more she posts the more I trend away from this)
falcon: probably a wolf
DrWilgy: uwu
Kate: not obviously town (which I am taking to be slightly wolf-indicative based on seeing her as obv!town last game)
Lemonfairy: hi
Lucy calling attention to herself I would expect as either alignment, but I feel like she's actually doing something with the attention she's intentionally garnering this time, which is rand!v.
Roxy looked uncomfortable when she was posting early on in that game I mention, where as that discomfort doesn't appear to exist at all now.
fingersplints, when I've seen her as mafia, sometimes asks questions for the sake of asking questions (and it shows), and she has not done that at all this game. I get the impression there is intention behind them.
Do you have a particular opinion on any of these three?
Well then, what evidence from my push would indicate that it is wolf driven?Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:36 amOh right I missed the original sign up window and subbed.Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:28 amYou were subbed in. You weren't there D1. I think they meant towards the end where you were defending yourself defending Lucy.Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:27 amBut did i wield my shield day 1?Kate wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:48 pmI don't know either of these players well enough yet to agree or disagree but I'll keep it in mind. Neon was pretty guns blazing last game, well more like shield weilding.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:16 pmYes. I think Town Falcon who is present early would have a minor interest in scouting...
This does not appear to be present so far.
Neon has seemed to drastically shift meta to come out guns blasting. Neon is a player who is good at finding town and going from there... Not this behavior we see now.
Now, I should continue my efforts at home.
I actually don't remember lol
Point stands though. I thought that's what they meant but I also feel like Wilgy is saying it's too early for me to be doing what I'm doing.
But I also think Wilgy should know that I don't ever try to approach any two games the same exact way. I don't know if there push on me is wolf driven though.
