The Syndicate

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:26 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:53 am Feel off
pyxxy
Deezees

None of these are in any particular order.

With pyxxy it feels odd that we'd get a full analysis from the slot re vc vs npc mechanics, but no tandem towards a read was made.
wigly you played a whole game with me where I did this over and over I'm mech-tunneled til I die, can't read for shit

oh wait

you were scum in that game
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:36 pm DrWilgy - posts - Inspector Frank Butterman, Mafia Roleblocker
uh mr wigly sir....why are you badmouthing me again ....and what big teeth you have

To be fair, I wasn't trying to read you that game.

I started your ISO, but keep getting interrupted by work stuff to draw a coherent conclusion.

Oh, I do not think Falcon or Neon should be a yeet option today.

Both are players that I think would spew given the decrease in npc mechanics.

Gonna re read abit now and see if the above holds.

I think I agree with Santy, we can write off most obvious NPCs or NPC emulators until purge at this point. Looking at you Sprityo and Rico <3.

tr
Santy
Porscha
Michelle
Hally

Felt good about earlier but need to remember why in current
Lily
Neon
Ender

Feel off
pyxxy
Deezees

None of these are in any particular order.

With pyxxy it feels odd that we'd get a full analysis from the slot re vc vs npc mechanics, but no tandem towards a read was made.

Deezees, you an NPC? I think I've seen multiple lv1 takes from you at this point, and I don't know what to make of it. It immediately makes me think you are chunking shit at the wall to see what sticks, but without conclusions drawn it feels fluffy.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:24 am rondo is great but he always calls his mom to come pick him up when I come around :/

Same tbh. I think it's my booze smell.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:12 am
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:12 am [VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine soz if wrong but kinda sus u didnt die after the pr claim
+ he is obvious real player

So obvious real player

+ claim

+ no death

= BAD

This feels very level 1 imo

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:28 am I think Hally is town. She never gave me bad vibes, maybe uninformed vibes, and her usually over the place style is not wolfy for her

I agree with this.

Like, for Ran and I to tie and for Iaafr to be an npc would imply my wagon was just mostly goombas without a care.

Ran was a wolf siding npc.

Literally wouldn't answer what was so wolfy when I asked multiple times. Felt purposely disingenuous.

Ender/Nut, what are y'alls reason for voting me?

I feel like the quote above is missing the word "together" at the end.

Actually

[VOTE: Ran] aubergine

Like, at what point where I'm like "help this make sense to me, help this make sense to me" and the response is the above is town sided?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:17 pm lol, Rans been here but still won't interact with me.
Leaving my vote on you is plenty of interaction

Bullshit.

How are my posts wolfy?

lol, Rans been here but still won't interact with me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:58 pm I still think sloonei is bad, and when he’s still here after the great purge of ‘3, you might want to go for him

Detail this to me. Sloonei ISO was not long, so I took a peek. The thing that stands out is there's like 1-3 real posts between almost a full page of shitposting.

I could honestly see it from a sleeping town or wolf. The fact that it's not complete malarkey I think slightly implies the slot is a player.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:46 pm Wilgy where‘d you place your vote right now?

Creature I still have slight ire with.

Ran after, but I'd like to see how this day evolves.

Also I am aware of my tendency to No U thus my introspection here feels important.

Thoughts on the Ran wagon: they feel to have good thread momentum. Normally I do associate that with town sided play.

My hangup is Ran calling my posts Wolfy. It feels disingenuous. I raised this earlier to no response as well. Almost as if the VCA wasn't good enough in their mind to push on me, they had to add something else and it feels like that addition is VERY empty.

It's the difference between "let's just clean up an afk slot" and "let's clean up an afk slot THAT'S VERY OBVIOUSLY WOLFY IN SPITE OF BEING AFK."

I don't think I'd feel like this had Ran engaged what content was there, but that just hasn't been done.

And like further to not seeing the Neon Objective. There was like a buddy buddy to Katze, but then Neon votes the slot. That's not really building anything unless the team contains both Katze and Neon.

Also the vote didn't stick. I think W Neon is much more inclined to have a stable vote.

I went through Neon's ISO to get a better grasp on the Ran wagon.

Neon is either just lost town or NPC, but likely town as they continue to hit vote minimum.

Wolf Neon plays to an objective, where lost Neon has no team and Is vibing until they can become invested.

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:58 pm There is no updated votecount in like two pages zzz, last one had drwilgy and ranmilia as wagons, i would never lynch ran today idc about drwilgy

Sadge

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:41 pm Like i can't read 93 pages so I've read maybe like 1/3rd of this game

vibe

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:29 pm
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:14 pm I don't like Rondo's approach here. Feels fake/performative
I agree, but in Rondo specifically, is a performance AI? I've never caught Rondo before, but I have seen them gimmick, I have seen them put a stick in between their own bike spokes as town.
<3<3<3<3<3 wanna make out?

Always

SilverKeith wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:14 pm I don't like Rondo's approach here. Feels fake/performative

I agree, but in Rondo specifically, is a performance AI? I've never caught Rondo before, but I have seen them gimmick, I have seen them put a stick in between their own bike spokes as town.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:13 pm I suppose that is fair, so:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:21 pm So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.
We are determining, by the fact that the nightkills whiffed on real players, and the relative percentages of people playing actively/doing towny things/being meta townread, that probably most if not all of the wolves are contained somewhere in the pool of players who are posting no real content and claiming they "cannot get into the game until the NPCs leave."

So we are going to kill all of those players.

Probably/possibly starting with you, the esteemed DrWilgy, because your eod pop-ins and votes appear as though you are trying to walk a line where you aren't posting stone nothing, but still aren't really participating in the game.

I don't really have anything to ask you, I'm not sure why santy thinks I should, besides the eternal questions of who do you think is town and who do you think is mafia and why?
If you would like to get the wagon off of yourself, I would suggest digging into some people's ISOs and posting as much thoughtful content as you have the time and energy available to do, and we will judge you on that.

That's fair.

Don't understand the part about the pop ins though? Feels almost like an uneeded argument based on squat. Anyone should see I'm not as involved, but how would one determine that implies "I'm walking a line?"

Nah.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:21 pm So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.
I think Ran made arguments mostly about your poppins being kinda wolfy

I'm here when I'm here

So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:57 pm I read Neon's iso, thought maybe Neon/Porscha town and Lily wolf, then opened wilgy's iso and saw this

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:43 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:23 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:22 am Porscha is town of porscha is playing
agree
*Shows up*

*Agrees*

*Leaves*

Lmao
and maybe neon/porscha are wolves with him and just yoloing in thread

lol

idk

something is up

Are all three wolves just kinda chilling in your perspective?

Oh, and something that did stand out to me was Creature's claim in how Porscha should have content spewed.

That one feels out of place, so minor wolf lean.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:38 pm @DrWilgy can you summarize me your reads this game? And what made you vote hk yesterday cuz I didnt fully get it

Game's too big for me to have conclusive thoughts on the cast.

Certain posts have lead me to "I'd not want them yeeted" you included.

That's why when it came down to HK vs you I wasn't gonna swap off.

I'd say I feel generally towny vibes from Michelle, Ender, Nutella, Ran, Katze (idk where this one comes from, but it's there), Scotty, Lily.

Minor town leaning on you since the thread focus let me actually absorb some info from you.

As to who is and isn't a player, meh, I don't really know how we'd solve that. People are too individualistic to apply any filter for behavior. I.e. me and thoughts that I don't have high player equity.

This is why the town equity question stood out to me earlier. I'm a player, but it seems that others don't believe so because I can't get a grasp on the game and don't think I'll be fully invested until an NPC dump occurs. I would not be surprised if other like minds are around and the player list is half asleep.

katze wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:33 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:31 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:30 pm Also, Scotty voting hk I think is pretty villagery of them at EoD.

This read is assuming that mafia kinda knew I had more player equity than hk which I think is prob safe to do
Wolves would want to vote out players over npcs??????????????????????????????
thats the point hes making

"scotty v for voting HK over me when i have more player equity"

Define player equity?

Do I have this?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:58 pm [VOTE: SANTYGRASS ] aubergine

cant vote Ender here he is town

Aye, that's what I thought. I'm curious as to the contrary thinkers here.

Explain the Ender wagon to me someone.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:48 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:46 pm Wait Santy is town, right?

It's 15 min before EoD, he is about to die. He pops in and asks me about an old post of mine. He's reading thread chronologically. He has no teammates to tell him in real time that he's about to die and ought to be towny in his last minutes.
@nutella @Creature @Ranmilia What do you think?
eh maybe

Feels like a strange leap to me boss.

Don't disagree with keeping Santy alive, just don't know if I see how you got there.

Real weird thread momentum this EoD.

Both of these are acceptable to me. I have no vibes from each that would indicate town.

Why, however, is Santy popping up to save HK?

Sorry

Hmm did my vote not work because I used abbreviation?

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

DeeZees wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:12 pm I don't think Porscha has a volume tell that is a false and aged economy

I agree with this

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:02 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:01 pm Yeah the game is hard to sort. I served up another list earlier, whatchu think about: drwilgy, lilypetal, neon, porscha, vivax?
DrWilgy, lilypetal and Neon are null for me

Porscha should have a volume tell

Vivax seems pretty obviously an NPC

Porscha should have a volume tell... Like you expect more from the slot? Porscha I think is often a vibe tell.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:52 pm i remember not liking scotty’s posts D1 and i think he has a reasonable chance to be a player

Detail this to me.

Again, I'm only skimming currently. I don't see wolf tension in the slot.

[VOTE: HK] aubergine

Strictly in adversity towards both Scotty and Michelle wagons.

From what I've seen, I see no reason to yeet the Scotty.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:59 pm Oh shit. There's a tie and I can kill Golden?

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine
Sounds like revenge. I don't think mafia would say it, but I would revisit this read later if i am alive

Yes

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:59 pm also @DrWilgy i in fact never stated any such read on you and you seem fine

Hmm? Whatcha mean?

Mmm... Toast

So what I find interesting is the amount of opinions on Michelle.

Seems to be a pivotal player. After Anniversary game 1, I think I have the soul read on that slot. This is town Michelle this game.

Nook and Chelsea I don't have context on but will oppose.

Ran has a W read on Michelle, but will spare on the fact that I like the above and seems town sided.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:29 pm I was bored so here's some cliffs.

arogame123 - posted some d1, wanted to find players which is prowolf yet i soul townread
c4e5g3d5 - no content, kinda wolfy
Chelsea - somewhat contentious, posting content, anti michelle
Creature - posted a fair bit of content
DeeZees - NUTS no real content, wolfy
DrWilgy - almost no real content, pro michelle
Dyslexicon - little real content, pro michelle
EnderWiggin - a lot of reads and activity but could not provide any reasons, pro michelle, actively raise eyebrow tbh tbh
falcon - minposting. anti jjj.
Fext - minposting.
G-Man - made the ISO list, barely posted otherwise.
Guillotine - trying to sudoku
Hally - sorta posting sorta not
hollowkat - kinda wolfy not really justifying reads. anti michelle.
iaafr - not a wolf.
ilario - posting some content
Inawordyes - minposting
Jackofhearts - actively playing, anti jjj and guillo
JaggedJimmyJay - minposting
katze - posting occasional content. not a wolf imo.
Lilypetal - lowposting, claimed wolf voted rabbit, could be actual wolf imo
Lucy - 0 content kinda sus
Lumi - 0 content but made a script
Manny - posting a lot but not much content, hardclaimed NPC
Marmot - cohosting duties, integrity violation if somehow a player
Michelle - iso full of nothing and refusing to help town, is getting defended anyway for mysterious reasons
Nanook - lowposting, anti michelle
Neon - no content, pro michelle
nutella - posting, similar reads to me
Porscha - posting but 0 content
pyxxy - minposting, voted sloonei
Ranmilia - your kawaii internet angel :3
Ricochet - iso is literally nothing but voted sloonei
risiinq- - wolfy posts
Rondo - jon snow
santygrass - don't hate their posts
Schiavetto - not rly posting, kinda wolfy
Scotty - blatantly forcing posts but also is rabbitsiding
Seanzie - minposted and voted guillo
SilverKeith - vibing, ransiding
Sloonei - voted radishes therefore locktown question mark
sprityo - voted radishes therefore locktown question mark second question mark
tutuu - claimed 3p
Vivax - 420posting, no content though
WindwardAway - daenerys targaryen

would vote today ig:
c4
deezees
drwilgy
dizzy
possibly ender
lilypetal
possibly lucy
michelle
neon
porscha
schiavetto
seanzie
vivax
other minposters or subjects of contention like guillo if enough reason surfaces

Mmm... This is nice.

Ranmilla is also town.
Also if your correct, then Dizzy and I are the same animal and I approve.

Oh shit. There's a tie and I can kill Golden?

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

So I vote right?
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

What after that. What list do I append currently?

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:32 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:31 pm Hi Hally! It's booty kickin' time!

Firmly grasp it

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:57 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:55 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:54 pm Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious
Screaming shitposting npc Jay to me.

Let's kill it anyways.
What's the point of killing someone you think is >rand NPC though

Vengeance

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