The Syndicate

anne wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:27 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:23 pm
anne wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:15 pm wilgy's recent posts were kinda meh so he can die, neon prolly closer to townie than not atp
elaborate?
he just provides a poe, promises to iso later, votes neon for lame-o reasons. i guess if he comes back and actually isos those people and goes more in-depth it's not as bad, but his content is just posting because he's being pressured to, not because he believes the stuff coming out of his mouth

I have literally been doing this all game. I don't get this.

anne wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:15 pm wilgy's recent posts were kinda meh so he can die, neon prolly closer to townie than not atp

Not sure what you want from me then?

At this stage in the game it's just best we get the PoE correct as we are in a good spot I think.

I desire for the reads I leave you with to be correct and I think it's odd that you'd go from TRing alot of my posts to their meh and THAT be the reason you see me w over Neon.

Like if anything just yeet me for my jack defense and sheep me after, but don't spew gut reasons when they are apparently just changing at a whim.

obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:06 am Lock Town; Creature - Seanzie - Ruri
Probably Town; Anne - Neon
I Think Town, though A Bit Uneasy; Pyxxy - Porscha

POE: [Nanook, Wilgy*, Schia, Falcon]

*I lean on Wilgy as town but it could be something I'm blind to that others know better on.

Swap Neon with Nook and I'm in agreement.

After digesting Porscha's push on me at start of day, I am in agreement that it's too straight forward for a wolf. When I flip the chance of them getting autoyeeted I think prevents a play like that.

Porscha goes at the back of PoE for it.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:54 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:12 am This is hard because I sort of think Neon and Wilgy are both town now. And yeah I'm scared Falcon could just be l*nch bait.

I'll do donr deep dives and try to figure things out later
I don't get this.
what you no get

How Neon comes out looking town or how Falcon is lynch bait.

They both should be yeeted out of PoE.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:52 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:51 pm Good hello all.

My wife has left for a family vacation while I watch the pets.

The house has become very quiet.
good now you can carry the game

Aye, but I'm about to get yeeted.

I suppose post mortem I can lead, but y'all need to listen to the legacy.

Thinking as I catch up. I did recall that Anne was in a strange posture and held vote in spite of being present. If anyone bussed but wanted to wait and see if Jack wagon would become stoppable, it may have been displayed there.

obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:12 am This is hard because I sort of think Neon and Wilgy are both town now. And yeah I'm scared Falcon could just be l*nch bait.

I'll do donr deep dives and try to figure things out later

I don't get this.

Good hello all.

My wife has left for a family vacation while I watch the pets.

The house has become very quiet.

Gewd night.

Final thoughts before passing out:

Cleared: Creature, Sean

Semi Cleared: Ruri > Pyxxy > Nook

Not Cleared but TR and won't revoke: Obscurity

PoE:
Porscha, Neon*, Falc, Shia*, Anne*

*I do fully intend on reexamining in context to Jack ISOs, just didn't have time for it today.

Don't ask for best order, my reads have been dogwater this game.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:18 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:13 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:12 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:19 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:43 pm How the fuck is my approach to you wolfy? I'm literally trying to solve you but you're making it impossible to work with you. I'm asking you why you think you should be obvious town and you're just OMGUSing like you did with Anne day one. Like if your approach to mafia as town is to push back at everyone suspicious of you then your play fucking sucks. I literally took notes and discussed all of my reads which have constantly changing based on new information. You had no approach to Jack whatsoever except to call him town early based on a on the Lily wagon so you're one to talk in terms of having a hedgy stance on Jack. There's no way in hell my approach as wolf would be to say that I thought Jack should be flipped but I townread him, that would be idiotic. You're acting like you're the lead wagon right into end of day, but im not going to fucking find you if you're town and your approach is this bullshit.
Your approach is wolfy because you're using non existent reasons to push me. Your pushing me off a meme and for not being around and I have yet to see a single valid reason from anyone on my wagon. And lo and behold when a wagon forms on me for no reason its almost always wolf driven. It happens every game I play I am very very used to it and I am very very used to its motivation and it very rarely comes from town and you are pulling the same thing that woofs always do on me. So no its not omgus, blaming a valid counter push on lol omgus is such a buzz word response when someone can legitimately just find your push on them scummy but run the buzz word roulette on me. But hey telling me I suck for how I play is a good way to get the "omgus" off you since that's how you want to play it. This response is never towny.

I never read Jack and the fact you push me for a meme and insist it was a legitimate read is so unbelievably weak.
Neon, you were completely MIA for the great Jack off and I believe Obscurity at least believes in this read on you. You defining it as weak is just incorrect.
Is that really the best anyone in this game can do?

You weren't here so shutup wolf?

Like...read me on what I've done when I was here not on what happened when I wasn't. I'm reading what exists in the thread.
hush wolf you weren't here.

I'll iso you tomorrow Neon.
Yeah this is just ass. [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine for all eternity.

Can't wait for this to be called omgus too.

This is just omgus.

~~~~~~

Damn, all yall got fab af hair. I'm jelly.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:13 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:53 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:32 pm

Anyways wilgy can probably just go over today I don't TR them so they sit comfortably in my can die pile

I also still hate Pyxxys gameplay but I might be biased because Pyxxy destroyed me as wolf recently.
Also this 'idon'ttrthem' just came from nothing too so that's neat.
I was commenting on

A. The lead wagon

B. Where my vote was.

That's not really out of nowhere right?

Seemed so lol. A lead wagon of 3 isn't really 'this'll just go over' material imo.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:12 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:19 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:43 pm How the fuck is my approach to you wolfy? I'm literally trying to solve you but you're making it impossible to work with you. I'm asking you why you think you should be obvious town and you're just OMGUSing like you did with Anne day one. Like if your approach to mafia as town is to push back at everyone suspicious of you then your play fucking sucks. I literally took notes and discussed all of my reads which have constantly changing based on new information. You had no approach to Jack whatsoever except to call him town early based on a on the Lily wagon so you're one to talk in terms of having a hedgy stance on Jack. There's no way in hell my approach as wolf would be to say that I thought Jack should be flipped but I townread him, that would be idiotic. You're acting like you're the lead wagon right into end of day, but im not going to fucking find you if you're town and your approach is this bullshit.
Your approach is wolfy because you're using non existent reasons to push me. Your pushing me off a meme and for not being around and I have yet to see a single valid reason from anyone on my wagon. And lo and behold when a wagon forms on me for no reason its almost always wolf driven. It happens every game I play I am very very used to it and I am very very used to its motivation and it very rarely comes from town and you are pulling the same thing that woofs always do on me. So no its not omgus, blaming a valid counter push on lol omgus is such a buzz word response when someone can legitimately just find your push on them scummy but run the buzz word roulette on me. But hey telling me I suck for how I play is a good way to get the "omgus" off you since that's how you want to play it. This response is never towny.

I never read Jack and the fact you push me for a meme and insist it was a legitimate read is so unbelievably weak.
Neon, you were completely MIA for the great Jack off and I believe Obscurity at least believes in this read on you. You defining it as weak is just incorrect.
Is that really the best anyone in this game can do?

You weren't here so shutup wolf?

Like...read me on what I've done when I was here not on what happened when I wasn't. I'm reading what exists in the thread.

hush wolf you weren't here.

I'll iso you tomorrow Neon.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:31 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:14 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:11 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:59 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:51 pm

Hedgy hedging is rarely a town trait
This feels needlessly dismissive and doesn't even answer my question.
There is literally no question here. And you are scum.
Yes there is. I asked you why you don't think it's fair. And I'm trying to find you if we're both town so I can solve this game but if you're going to act like this I will push on you and have zero regrets if you flip town.
You can kill another town you've been very good at that. I hope town can eventually see that all your bad faith pushes have done nothing but kill town and that your continued weak defense of Jack was so wishy washy and Hedgy that you can sit here and go well clearly I wasn't really protecting him. Which is also scummy.

So if your town your wolf siding and this push your leading on me another town will just get you killed tomorrow and if you're wolf like I REALLY think you are right now because of your approach to me your just another wolf I've found that town is too blind to ever push onto like I dunno that happens a lot and I'm right a lot.

I still have literally no idea what your asking me...
[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Falc is also acceptable.
Lmao why?

Mostly a gut vote on the progression between you and Obscurity. It reeked.

It might stay, it might not. I need to look at your ISO before I just blindly sheep Obscurity/Anne.

Oh, I should try to solve Anne's slot better. I still feel they are towny, but I think I should reassess the clear I provided earlier.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:08 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:40 am
anne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:04 pm looks like wolves were looking to bus sabi p early on into the game according to jack's early posting, it wasn't until a bit later they thought maybe they could save her. jack seems like the kind of wolf that can't resist tmi'ing his partners as wolf so the early iso also looks sort of bad for neon, but there is some outside stuff that makes me doubt that.
Care to describe the outside stuff that makes you doubt it?

I need to ISO Neon. They seemed mostly absent yesterday if I recall, but their posts today are somewhat sketch. I also don't think I am misremembering, but I have a firm memory of Neon's TR list prior to the Jack yeet was specifically bad. They claim to be a player who gets TRs instead of hunting for SRs, but I had thought I quoted and asked about a TR list that specifically had nothing/went nowhere.

I think the only firm reason I recall tring Neon was because Mac's accuracy on that slot.

Man. I wish my hair could be as pink as hers.

I'd be so fucking fab.

Meh. I need to solve Shia and Neon tomorrow morning. I should have more time to play then. Sorry again about being absent until like midnight 24 hours in lol, wife is getting ready to go out of town so I was spending time with her.

I should go to sleep now.

Ah, I thought the context was those were the ones you found you liked.

Hedgey but I'll reexamine.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:19 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:43 pm How the fuck is my approach to you wolfy? I'm literally trying to solve you but you're making it impossible to work with you. I'm asking you why you think you should be obvious town and you're just OMGUSing like you did with Anne day one. Like if your approach to mafia as town is to push back at everyone suspicious of you then your play fucking sucks. I literally took notes and discussed all of my reads which have constantly changing based on new information. You had no approach to Jack whatsoever except to call him town early based on a on the Lily wagon so you're one to talk in terms of having a hedgy stance on Jack. There's no way in hell my approach as wolf would be to say that I thought Jack should be flipped but I townread him, that would be idiotic. You're acting like you're the lead wagon right into end of day, but im not going to fucking find you if you're town and your approach is this bullshit.
Your approach is wolfy because you're using non existent reasons to push me. Your pushing me off a meme and for not being around and I have yet to see a single valid reason from anyone on my wagon. And lo and behold when a wagon forms on me for no reason its almost always wolf driven. It happens every game I play I am very very used to it and I am very very used to its motivation and it very rarely comes from town and you are pulling the same thing that woofs always do on me. So no its not omgus, blaming a valid counter push on lol omgus is such a buzz word response when someone can legitimately just find your push on them scummy but run the buzz word roulette on me. But hey telling me I suck for how I play is a good way to get the "omgus" off you since that's how you want to play it. This response is never towny.

I never read Jack and the fact you push me for a meme and insist it was a legitimate read is so unbelievably weak.
Neon, you were completely MIA for the great Jack off and I believe Obscurity at least believes in this read on you. You defining it as weak is just incorrect.
joke so good you might get TR'd tbh

And I also get that I'm not good at reading this new mode Porscha. That's fine. I can't change that yet, and I still sr you.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:50 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:08 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:12 pm Also lucy said she was gonna go hard in the paint on wilgy today as well so like mmmmmMMMMMM

Microwave noises

Wilgy you tryna die or what
The fact that you even need to question if I'm trying to die means you know how absolutely absurd it is IMO.

ezflip Porscha after me.
explain how anything I said was scum without it being omgus

Sure, see below:

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:27 pm I mean, it's because nothing Anne says sounds dishonest and there's nothing wrong with flash wagoning Lucy. Like, Wilgy and Scotty both also jumped on that flash wagon quickly and I think (know for Scotty) they are both town. And for Wigly, it's basically because of the flash wagon. I think it was a good look. So why does Anne get reverse credit for trying to move a misyeet into a probable wolf? I don't get it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:23 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:09 pm Options town have today

Miselim me
Vote out one of Lucy/Anne/Sabi

I must insist no other choices be made.

I am of the view Lucy is probably town but I won't begrudge a resolving of the random d1 wagon on her.

I will not be analysing this game in any effort oriented manner until Anne and Sabi are both dead in this game.

If you are mafia and none of the other three are mafia I am your win condition and good game.
there's 100% one scum in anne/sabi
judging by how quickly they were gonna Flashwagon me
Yeh. Sabi+Lucy gottem gg

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:28 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:09 pm Options town have today

Miselim me
Vote out one of Lucy/Anne/Sabi

I must insist no other choices be made.

I am of the view Lucy is probably town but I won't begrudge a resolving of the random d1 wagon on her.

I will not be analysing this game in any effort oriented manner until Anne and Sabi are both dead in this game.

If you are mafia and none of the other three are mafia I am your win condition and good game.
there's 100% one scum in anne/sabi
judging by how quickly they were gonna Flashwagon me
We flashwagon you to save the *check notes*

Town commuter.

Yes that's scummy of us

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:21 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:03 pm Kill mac I'm commuter
Hmmm anne and I are scummy for trying to save him.

Is that correct @lucy @MacDougall
Lol okay valid.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:21 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:09 pm Options town have today

Miselim me
Vote out one of Lucy/Anne/Sabi

I must insist no other choices be made.

I am of the view Lucy is probably town but I won't begrudge a resolving of the random d1 wagon on her.

I will not be analysing this game in any effort oriented manner until Anne and Sabi are both dead in this game.

If you are mafia and none of the other three are mafia I am your win condition and good game.
there's 100% one scum in anne/sabi
judging by how quickly they were gonna Flashwagon me
We flashwagon you to save the *check notes*

Town commuter.

Yes that's scummy of us
he claimed after vote count stopped
can you give actual reasoning?
But that's....

It doesn't matter if Cape claimed later. Correctly being like "I think Cape is town. We should wagon someone else" is still a good thing. And then you got totally deer in the headlightsed by it (as did Mac but idk what to do with that because I don't think that w!Mac goes "lol" in response to a flashwagon on his partner at eod).

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:47 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:42 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:39 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:37 pm

i dont care about making the game state bad, just read cats vs dogs on mu if you want to see me raging out as town. this is much milder in comparison.
I'm not saying you're raging... you're just being needlessly insulting... like being toxic or whatever is one thing but like in this gamestate you supposedly have mac outed and day 2 just started ... we've lost hardly any ground as a town here and you're acting like the game is over even though you also have me cornered and wagoned

your mental doesn't really make sense... if I'm outed you just need to point out how and I'll die ez clap after that day 1... scotty died sussing me

but no you just acting all ree... cuz you're a wolf lol
tbf i think neon is 10x more obvious than you are, but if you're town then its frustrating and we probably already lost because you just jump on me every game for no reason now and its annoying
you say this but it's also verifiably not true
it literally is
Like I tell my kids. You never convince each other going back and forth like this. You just make daddy tired.

Show your work @anne @MacDougall
didnt really like these but also found posts from jack that are towny but I am too lazy and tired to quote them all so this was a waste of time for myself

So you skimmed Jack and got an entire towny compilation for him

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:47 pm ayo dixie chicks concert?

also tbf idk about creature either he had a few games recently where he was obv town and this isnt the same creature imo

Shaded the primary pusher of the Jack wagon with arbitrary observation

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:11 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:40 am Mac never lynches sabi here, Mac instantly let's Sabi prove her NA and then goes to somewhere else and doesn't place a vote and sit
Jack is still cleared, and Mac is even more scummy for dissuading Jack off me

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:41 am Creature might be town, one in him/nook/jack for certain
1 min went by how did this read change? wowee

@Porscha can you explain what you were trying to tell me earlier that I answered with "Huh?"
lucy I also caught this earlier. think when you forgot game existed. can you please explain

Tried to find and elaborate on Jack discussion that'd clear him.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:55 pm maybe should just off jack to have the conversation done and over with idk

And then when you realized the ship was sunk you waffled.

And don't get me wrong here. I still absolutely agree that I TR'd him too before you make that argument. I think out of the other players who tossed a TR, your's can fit a teammate well enough.

The push for me honestly may be tin foil OMGUS. I think as obscurity said, you to go for that so hard after being the one to NK is alittle odd. But, nonetheless Falc you and I should never make it to lylo.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:32 pm

Anyways wilgy can probably just go over today I don't TR them so they sit comfortably in my can die pile

I also still hate Pyxxys gameplay but I might be biased because Pyxxy destroyed me as wolf recently.

Also this 'idon'ttrthem' just came from nothing too so that's neat.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:19 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:43 pm How the fuck is my approach to you wolfy? I'm literally trying to solve you but you're making it impossible to work with you. I'm asking you why you think you should be obvious town and you're just OMGUSing like you did with Anne day one. Like if your approach to mafia as town is to push back at everyone suspicious of you then your play fucking sucks. I literally took notes and discussed all of my reads which have constantly changing based on new information. You had no approach to Jack whatsoever except to call him town early based on a on the Lily wagon so you're one to talk in terms of having a hedgy stance on Jack. There's no way in hell my approach as wolf would be to say that I thought Jack should be flipped but I townread him, that would be idiotic. You're acting like you're the lead wagon right into end of day, but im not going to fucking find you if you're town and your approach is this bullshit.
Your approach is wolfy because you're using non existent reasons to push me. Your pushing me off a meme and for not being around and I have yet to see a single valid reason from anyone on my wagon. And lo and behold when a wagon forms on me for no reason its almost always wolf driven. It happens every game I play I am very very used to it and I am very very used to its motivation and it very rarely comes from town and you are pulling the same thing that woofs always do on me. So no its not omgus, blaming a valid counter push on lol omgus is such a buzz word response when someone can legitimately just find your push on them scummy but run the buzz word roulette on me. But hey telling me I suck for how I play is a good way to get the "omgus" off you since that's how you want to play it. This response is never towny.

I never read Jack and the fact you push me for a meme and insist it was a legitimate read is so unbelievably weak.

Neon, you were completely MIA for the great Jack off and I believe Obscurity at least believes in this read on you. You defining it as weak is just incorrect.

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:23 pm It's fine. But like stuff like Mac saying "Sabi is mafia because this is not town Sabi" and people pushing Jack for not being the same as a past town game is obviously not going to register with me the same way, but I'm trying to gather logic and reasons and put stuff together. Jack dying made sense for the game so I wanted it even if I thought he was town. I thought I had solid stuff against Lily, I nearly changed my mind at one point after interacting with her and my switch caused Jack to AtE me in a way that made me waver back. I correctly had Cape as town day 1. And even if I'm wrong on Neon I'm not dead set on it like I had them as top town yesterday and tried to talk to them then they completely disappeared and I've been re-evaluating my reads every day and came to that conclusion today so even if it's a wrong conclusion I'm not someone who can't have their mind changed... all I ask is the same courtesy from other people.

nvm, there's not a deep wolf here. I'd be baffled if so.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:02 pm I am impatiently waiting for wilgy to arrive

Whats good homie?

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:56 pm Anyway I may end up sheeping Seanzie on Wilgy after yesterday. But I don't appreciate being told I'm playing anti-town by someone who did nothing to push Jack and was absent when I was part of ensuring he was flipped despite a Jack trying to AtE me hard. I also don't appreciate now being AtE'd by 3 people just for voting them.

Aye, let Seanzie remove me then just chain yeet Falc/Neon/Porscha

I think that'll give us the best lylo if not just close the game lol.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:31 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:14 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:11 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:59 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:51 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:51 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:43 pm

Asking me who the mafia is will rarely return the results you want. Unless i see something that pings me hard I have nothing to say.

I probably don't have something to say if I don't say it. Right now I'm looking at you and wilgy. I think Jack was at points savable yesterday and I think that woofs are in a bad position with Jack dying on this situation so I think at the very least 1 woofer would go all in on trying to save Jack.

In my experience people who treat my slot the way you are generally are woofs. I do not think your approach to me is fair or valid. I wonder because you are loud and leading town but you've been loud and leading town away from woofs and knowing that I'm town your leading them into town.
I was definitely not trying to save Jack though. The Creature wagon that popped up I believe was Wilgy/Falcon/+1, not sure the +1 or +2 actually? But that would've been the main attempt to save Jack.

I mean, I also would've played it very differently as mafia, and actually taken a strong stance against Jack to look good there, either bussed hard or tried to save him, rather than a limp fish "well Jack will prob flip town but he needs to die" type thing.

And like.. I think it was pretty obvious that Jack was trying to specifically appeal to me/pocket me. When I tried to switch onto him/started to come around on Lily being V D2, he basically pinged me and said he thought I was better than that.

And idk, I came into today thinking you were mafia but I'm not sure anymore. Can you elaborate on why you don't think it's fair? Like, the Jack flip basically turned my entire POE around, and the having been "loud and wrong" part is why I'm considering you in the first place, because I'm one of the people who had been loudly calling you town, and I'm struggling because I realize I've been wrong on my main reads this game. That said I don't think anything wrong I've done has majorly impeded things as I did accept Jack needed to die.
Hedgy hedging is rarely a town trait
This feels needlessly dismissive and doesn't even answer my question.
There is literally no question here. And you are scum.
Yes there is. I asked you why you don't think it's fair. And I'm trying to find you if we're both town so I can solve this game but if you're going to act like this I will push on you and have zero regrets if you flip town.
You can kill another town you've been very good at that. I hope town can eventually see that all your bad faith pushes have done nothing but kill town and that your continued weak defense of Jack was so wishy washy and Hedgy that you can sit here and go well clearly I wasn't really protecting him. Which is also scummy.

So if your town your wolf siding and this push your leading on me another town will just get you killed tomorrow and if you're wolf like I REALLY think you are right now because of your approach to me your just another wolf I've found that town is too blind to ever push onto like I dunno that happens a lot and I'm right a lot.

I still have literally no idea what your asking me...

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Falc is also acceptable.

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:20 pm I'm gonna vote Wilgy but it isn't omgus.

Clearly

anne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:40 pm i think gth my poe today would be like falcon/wilgy/neon/schia. i retract my tr on schia because of their play at eod, but have them at the tail end of the poe.

Tell me about Schia.

anne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:04 pm looks like wolves were looking to bus sabi p early on into the game according to jack's early posting, it wasn't until a bit later they thought maybe they could save her. jack seems like the kind of wolf that can't resist tmi'ing his partners as wolf so the early iso also looks sort of bad for neon, but there is some outside stuff that makes me doubt that.

Care to describe the outside stuff that makes you doubt it?

I need to ISO Neon. They seemed mostly absent yesterday if I recall, but their posts today are somewhat sketch. I also don't think I am misremembering, but I have a firm memory of Neon's TR list prior to the Jack yeet was specifically bad. They claim to be a player who gets TRs instead of hunting for SRs, but I had thought I quoted and asked about a TR list that specifically had nothing/went nowhere.

I think the only firm reason I recall tring Neon was because Mac's accuracy on that slot.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:29 pm Alright so who can we clear?

I think Ruri is pretty much clear for her doctor claim unless there's a counterclaim.

Seanzie should be pretty much clear for actively pushing Jack D3 and D4.

I'm tempted to clear pyxxy too because idk if they would bus Jack yesterday but I might be underestimating them.

What are your all thoughts on Porscha? Is she out of wolf range?

Re Porscha, I think today started with them being decently opportunistic, but I won't pretend to know low energy Porscha wolf range.

I inherently feel like I should sr it, but based on death will be my final lover, I can be incorrect there.

I still think Nook is semi-clear. I agree with Pyxxy as well, but more so in terms of semi-cleared.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:17 pm Like think about it for 2 seconds and look at the vc and tell me that's where I land if im Jack's partner that decided "you know what actually I dont want to bus now"

Try to make a smart read on me for once in your life

fucking kek

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:35 pm Lol if Creature got outed by an error.. that's not a red check though, but that increases odds of being mafia, no?

Don't motion detector roles ping if someone visited Creature as well as they moved?

Creature/Sean are the most cleared, wouldn't surprise me if there was a pro town effect there.

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:56 pm I definitely believe Ruri at this point FWIW, with the Jack flip too.

I don't think that this was even arguable since Nooks gimmick.

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:44 pm I was reading NANOOK as unpaired with Jack, mostly because he pushed Jack without any wiggle room and Jack had a lamesauce reason to clear NANOOK, but possible I'm off-base here, I don't find him very villagery outside of that. The motion detect thing is kind of weird. But I dunno.

This

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:52 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:43 am feel weird about Wilgy not showing up yet..

i guess i should ISO him.
Good morning my friend.

I'd have thought by now that my busy/"I have time to burst" play style would've been realized by now just based on when I normally make it to the thread but alas.

While I haven't read everything I've skimmed and thoughts are like this:
I agree with my yeet before lylo. I don't desire to be the easy misyeet that causes us to lose so if the information gained from my yeet pre lylo gets us there then I'm good with that.

With that in mind I do think we are still in a really good position and we should be able to just win by yeeting the last wolves.

I think it's absolutely an absurd thing to think I'd kill Lucy in that position after how hard I shielded Jack.

Porscha's immediate push on me, after they waffled on Jack last cycle, using what I assume is a set up NK is super fucking sketchy and I'd almost recommend that the only wagons be Porscha or I. Flip me with the promise to assess Porscha's push on me gets us a pelt, I think.

I will actually read after work today.
Lmao you tryna thunderdome with me yesterday after your performance? My feelings on jack made sense based on my half ass position in the game yesterday but multiple people waffled on his slot and I wasnt alone in that. I also sheeped lucy read because there had to be a reason she died last night and she had you and me (unsure if she finished eod still having me in poe but regardless she openly stated she was gonna run you up today) in poe. Actually yeah i kinda look like shit now that I've said it out loud lmfao

WHATEVER

I'm not sure how confident I'd be that you are like for sure wolfing or whatever based on the NK because it is painfully obvious that lucy was gonna be on your ass today. But that leaves me thinking if you are town wilgy then wolves did it to explicitly frame you since you look awful from the jack flip and a lucy nk. So I understand why you are suspicious of my push onto you thinking it might be wolf motivated but it's the obvious look that I need to do to entertain why lucy was the NK instead of nook who softed a PR or anne who buried sabi or obscurity who I should probs tinfoil cuz Lucy tinfoiled him too

Yes, and I agree you weren't alone. I misread him, and I think Falc/Nook you wavered. I recall Obscurity having them as town as well. Out of those who tr'd Jack, you seem to just be hyper eager to take the path of least resistance, so no. I think it'd be best to thunderdome that way I can at least ensure that one of my poe is removed.

I don't know what to make of Nooks recent misfire or Falc's insistence on Creature. Nook was on Jack earlier in the game and kept the wagon strong. I don't see wolf Nook not ending on the bus had their game plan been to bus since d1. Likely the misfire was just that I guess.

Falc is either completely out of the loop and has no issue with it OR is just lost wolf. Solving Falc is generally town. I thought, JUST maybe a hint of that prior to EoD last cycle, but then for them to come back and continue their Creature tunnel disproves. Falcon should be removed.

Obscurity may be deep wolf. Obs may be in the similar state of me where I don't desire to imagine a lylo with them.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:23 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:51 am I really wanna know what you did or did not do, nook
I motion detected creature instead of wilgy cause I completely mixed up their eods
I'd like to hear their explanation...Jack's push on Creature felt like distancing IMO

Alright, but Creature on Jack is literally the least aligned piece on the planet?

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:12 pm Also lucy said she was gonna go hard in the paint on wilgy today as well so like mmmmmMMMMMM

Microwave noises

Wilgy you tryna die or what

The fact that you even need to question if I'm trying to die means you know how absolutely absurd it is IMO.

ezflip Porscha after me.

Good evening all.

Chainsaw Man ep 1 was good.

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:43 am feel weird about Wilgy not showing up yet..

i guess i should ISO him.

Good morning my friend.

I'd have thought by now that my busy/"I have time to burst" play style would've been realized by now just based on when I normally make it to the thread but alas.

While I haven't read everything I've skimmed and thoughts are like this:
I agree with my yeet before lylo. I don't desire to be the easy misyeet that causes us to lose so if the information gained from my yeet pre lylo gets us there then I'm good with that.

With that in mind I do think we are still in a really good position and we should be able to just win by yeeting the last wolves.

I think it's absolutely an absurd thing to think I'd kill Lucy in that position after how hard I shielded Jack.

Porscha's immediate push on me, after they waffled on Jack last cycle, using what I assume is a set up NK is super fucking sketchy and I'd almost recommend that the only wagons be Porscha or I. Flip me with the promise to assess Porscha's push on me gets us a pelt, I think.

I will actually read after work today.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:08 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:05 pm Why are you all trying too damn hard to save Jack? Is there any good reason to townread him or are you all just afraid of possibly mislynching a strong player?

I've stated a lot of reasons to wolfread Jack even non-Mac related reasons. I have yet to see an actual reason to townread Jack that is not "jAcK iS pRoBaBlY tOwN".

The Lilypetal wagon grew with little to no resistance and afair Jack was leading until like 8 players were piled on Lilypetal.

Even with Jack being the counterwagon to a mislynch and the optimacy of solving counterwagons to mislynch, it feels like it's pretty damn hard to get anyone to vote Jack.
It just doesn't make sense with Rondo dying, and I'm partial to believing your read on Jack at this point.

The points that I've seen are mostly Lily wagon related, which I've already pointed out are moot, and then Mac legacy related which I'm not sure about.

None of the lines of play today point to Jack being wolf.
The Rondo kill was just weird, trying to say "Jack can't be wolf because the Rondo kill" is a very weak take imo. We have no idea why the wolves killed Rondo - PR read, because of their read, fearkill, gamestate preservation, who knows?

What "lines of play" exactly?

If this is your only reason to TR Jack, that might be a bad sign.

See above, it's an entire gamestate type thing. Plus I do think Jack was trying to hunt this cycle fwiw. I don't see that in the people pushing him. Maybe Lucy's hunting is legitimate?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:19 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:08 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:05 pm Why are you all trying too damn hard to save Jack? Is there any good reason to townread him or are you all just afraid of possibly mislynching a strong player?

I've stated a lot of reasons to wolfread Jack even non-Mac related reasons. I have yet to see an actual reason to townread Jack that is not "jAcK iS pRoBaBlY tOwN".

The Lilypetal wagon grew with little to no resistance and afair Jack was leading until like 8 players were piled on Lilypetal.

Even with Jack being the counterwagon to a mislynch and the optimacy of solving counterwagons to mislynch, it feels like it's pretty damn hard to get anyone to vote Jack.
It just doesn't make sense with Rondo dying, and I'm partial to believing your read on Jack at this point.

The points that I've seen are mostly Lily wagon related, which I've already pointed out are moot, and then Mac legacy related which I'm not sure about.

None of the lines of play today point to Jack being wolf.
I'm pretty sure Jack literally watched Rondo demolish two wolves in King of the Hill so Jack has good reasons to fearkill Rondo. I don't think Jack nightkills me here because I get mislynched a lot and often tinfoil my own reads. There's no way you can townread Jack from a common nightkill.
It's more than the nightkill, it's the momentum of the game. The game immediately today went into a wagon on Jack and that's pretty much it. There's been no solving around it, the wagon just exists and has stuck.

Also NK analysis always seems to get discredited for some reason. Rondo was literally posting gifs. You've posted as to why you weren't NK'd fine, but there's Nook and Seanzie, and Seanzie is about as cleared as can be.

I g2g now, [VOTE: Creature] aubergine may be on via mobile, but we'll see. Site's been real FONKY on my phone and I have like 10 posts left.
Uhh... how am I clear?

Sabi interactions. I have you and Lucy cleared because of it. Can quote it later.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:08 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:05 pm Why are you all trying too damn hard to save Jack? Is there any good reason to townread him or are you all just afraid of possibly mislynching a strong player?

I've stated a lot of reasons to wolfread Jack even non-Mac related reasons. I have yet to see an actual reason to townread Jack that is not "jAcK iS pRoBaBlY tOwN".

The Lilypetal wagon grew with little to no resistance and afair Jack was leading until like 8 players were piled on Lilypetal.

Even with Jack being the counterwagon to a mislynch and the optimacy of solving counterwagons to mislynch, it feels like it's pretty damn hard to get anyone to vote Jack.
It just doesn't make sense with Rondo dying, and I'm partial to believing your read on Jack at this point.

The points that I've seen are mostly Lily wagon related, which I've already pointed out are moot, and then Mac legacy related which I'm not sure about.

None of the lines of play today point to Jack being wolf.
I'm pretty sure Jack literally watched Rondo demolish two wolves in King of the Hill so Jack has good reasons to fearkill Rondo. I don't think Jack nightkills me here because I get mislynched a lot and often tinfoil my own reads. There's no way you can townread Jack from a common nightkill.

It's more than the nightkill, it's the momentum of the game. The game immediately today went into a wagon on Jack and that's pretty much it. There's been no solving around it, the wagon just exists and has stuck.

Also NK analysis always seems to get discredited for some reason. Rondo was literally posting gifs. You've posted as to why you weren't NK'd fine, but there's Nook and Seanzie, and Seanzie is about as cleared as can be.

I g2g now, [VOTE: Creature] aubergine may be on via mobile, but we'll see. Site's been real FONKY on my phone and I have like 10 posts left.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:05 pm Why are you all trying too damn hard to save Jack? Is there any good reason to townread him or are you all just afraid of possibly mislynching a strong player?

I've stated a lot of reasons to wolfread Jack even non-Mac related reasons. I have yet to see an actual reason to townread Jack that is not "jAcK iS pRoBaBlY tOwN".

The Lilypetal wagon grew with little to no resistance and afair Jack was leading until like 8 players were piled on Lilypetal.

Even with Jack being the counterwagon to a mislynch and the optimacy of solving counterwagons to mislynch, it feels like it's pretty damn hard to get anyone to vote Jack.

It just doesn't make sense with Rondo dying, and I'm partial to believing your read on Jack at this point.

The points that I've seen are mostly Lily wagon related, which I've already pointed out are moot, and then Mac legacy related which I'm not sure about.

None of the lines of play today point to Jack being wolf.

Now that I've skimmed (ty work day ending btw), I recall thinking Creature was wolfy early into the game because of their seeming willingness to vote wherever.

Just in review of today, there's like:
one

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:31 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:49 pm This kill basically says that the people who shut up are bigger threats than the people trying to be loud and control stuff (that and possibly doc dodging)

@Ruri who did you target

I think Jack is town but I'm not planning to try to control anything anymore, placing my vote on who I suspect.
Jack wagon yesterday seemed pretty pure yesterday (Seanzie, NANOOK, Rondo, Lilypetal, me). In contrast, the Lilypetal wagon was full of sketchballs (anne, Neon, falcon45ca, Jack himself, Ruri + 3 or 4 players I forgot).

atp I am considering Jack outed because I'm struggling to see the world Jack is town and wolves decided to pile on the Lilypetal wagon without ever touching the town!Jack wagon.

two

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:36 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:31 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:49 pm This kill basically says that the people who shut up are bigger threats than the people trying to be loud and control stuff (that and possibly doc dodging)

@Ruri who did you target

I think Jack is town but I'm not planning to try to control anything anymore, placing my vote on who I suspect.
Jack wagon yesterday seemed pretty pure yesterday (Seanzie, NANOOK, Rondo, Lilypetal, me). In contrast, the Lilypetal wagon was full of sketchballs (anne, Neon, falcon45ca, Jack himself, Ruri + 3 or 4 players I forgot).

atp I am considering Jack outed because I'm struggling to see the world Jack is town and wolves decided to pile on the Lilypetal wagon without ever touching the town!Jack wagon.
Oh right the Lilypetal wagon also had Porscha, Schiavetto and obscurity.

Jack wagon: me, Seanzie, NANOOK, Lilypetal, Rondo (before moving to random vanity wagon, most specifically anne).

Lilypetal wagon: anne, Neon, falcon45ca, Jack, Ruri, Porscha, Schiavetto, Obscurity.

I know I'm town. Both Lilypetal and Rondo flipped town. So unless there's wolf within Seanzie/NANOOK, wolves didn't bother to join the Jack wagon yesterday, not even to split their votes up.

three

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:01 pm Jack should prob be resolved today because yesterday's Lilypetal wagon sucked ass and I find it hard wolves all piled there and none of them went for a town!Jack mislynch.

four

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:35 pm @Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips
I can do Jack or anne today.
I think both are likely wolves.

I have a preference for Jack because we need to sort yesterday's wagons. If Jack and Lily were v/v then why were the wolves all on Lilypetal and not a single one on Jack?

five

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:38 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:33 pm how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?
I'll use it until Jack flips or is mech cleared somehow. The Lilypetal wagon yesterday was extremely wolfy and I feel like its motovation was to save wolf!Jack.

If that's not convincing you on wolf!Jack:
- Jack seemed mostly worried about how he looked than solving.
- Jack's play here is not matching King of the Hill.
- Mac was wolfreading Jack with an actual tell.
- Mac would say we should always sort the counterwagon.

six

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:33 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:03 pm Here are the post counts from the start of Day 3. I screenshotted them before the night ended but was too lazy/forgetful to post them.

Spoiler: show
Neon: 160
obscurity: 130
anne: 79
DrWilgy: 75
Jackofhearts2005: 73
RondoDimBuckle: 67
lucy: 64
Creature: 63
Lilypetal: 60
Porscha: 37
Seanzie: 34
Schiavetto: 26
pyxxy: 25
falcom45ca: 23
NANOOK: 12
Ruro: 2

After Creature pointed out I wasn't post capped, I realized I had been counting from the start of D3, which would put me at like 100 posts. I'm not in antispew. I'm just super bad at timezones.

Spoiler: show
That's a joke. I'm super bad at checking that Sloonei's most recent postcount was for the day phase we were currently on

i'm wiling to believe mistake cuz idk wtf my post count is I just assume it's too low to not even worry about

but i'm still making squinty eyes at you
Why? I'm clearly townie. Everyone who actually isos me says so.

Creature and Lucy are just blindly following a player they know they shouldn't. Go count how many times it's been pointed out to Creature that Mac didn't even scumread Anne but he just stiffly gripping the Jack/Anne wolfread "cause Mac said so." Idk about Lucy but that's not town Creature. Town Creature actually has his own reads and they're actually good and based on things.

And then Pxxy doesn't scumread me at all.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

I wolfread you and anne independently of Mac at this rate. The way the Lilypetal wagon happened was pretty bad and anne seems to be hard wolfsiding here.

Arguments that are all just the same thing "Lily was a bad wagon, get Jack for it". That's been Creature's entire day today.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:52 pm @Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.
This doesn't help your case. You seem uninterested to solve.

This post feels gross. It's a complete discredit where I don't think a discredit belongs when Jack has actually been here today.

Like none of Creature's posts I think go into actual discussion with Jack today. It's also like the Rondo NK was completely ignored for purposes outside of killing Jack which I already pointed out seems in disagreement with the gif poster's PoE.

And maybe I'm screaming at the wind just because of how ick this Jack yeet feels, but I still really don't like it. Creature's ISO did nothing but further that feeling.

Did a quick last min skim of Creature and I don't remember why I recall him being towny.

This post early d1 stood out to me

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:37 pm lmao Sabi is so town

but prob for a very bad reason

Then Rondo Dies and his entire gameplan this cycle has been "Lily wagon bad, yeet Jack" on loop.

No, I agree with Jack here, Creature hasn't been solving he's been stuck on loop.

This EoD feels bad.

Jack V Creature is T/T

Vetto with the lone Lucy vote lol.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:52 pm @Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.
This doesn't help your case. You seem uninterested to solve.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:21 pm Like honestly, who has spent more time solving today, me or Creature?

Who has spent more time solving, D4 me or entire game Creature?

I'd be offended if I thought you were town.

Eh. I actually kinda agree with Jack here. I can imagine being frustrated by this.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:52 pm @Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.
Like I disagree with the votes on you, but I'd not yeet Creature in your place.

You two are more likely T/T than you Falc/Nook either of those slots may flip w.

~~~~~~

@falcon45ca my friend, you have an hour to do some legitimate hunting. Collect a pelt. What do you make of me currently? What do you make of Jack? Nook? Your Creature votes previous, what were those based on?
Let's do these all as GTH reads, and I'll give blurb or two, shall we? I've not spent a lot of time reading, and I'm not pretend like I have.

I did go thru Jack's ISO quickly a short time ago, and the thing that struck me the most is how...I dunno, polite? It is. I didn't really get the sense he's trying to get his hands dirty. GTH he's town tho, even if that sounds odd from what I've just said.

Nook is never an easy read for me, I just find the few posts I've read to have an agenda...like, he's scheming behind the scenes and guiding things in his own subtle way. GTH he's Maf

I find Creatures early interactions with me to come across like he's TR my slot, and there's no reason to do so. GTH he's Maf

I'm rescinding my read on Falcon for now, I think W falcon kinda just ignores my inquiry tbh. This is also the lightest of reads which I need more content for.

Also I'm half inclined to believe Jack's read.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:52 pm @Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.

Like I disagree with the votes on you, but I'd not yeet Creature in your place.

You two are more likely T/T than you Falc/Nook either of those slots may flip w.

~~~~~~

@falcon45ca my friend, you have an hour to do some legitimate hunting. Collect a pelt. What do you make of me currently? What do you make of Jack? Nook? Your Creature votes previous, what were those based on?

I have 19 left so I gotta be abit conservative

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:35 pm @Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips
I can do Jack or anne today.
I think both are likely wolves.

I have a preference for Jack because we need to sort yesterday's wagons. If Jack and Lily were v/v then why were the wolves all on Lilypetal and not a single one on Jack?

Again, I don't like your conclusion that all the wolves were on Lily. Seems very jump the gun.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:38 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:33 pm how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?
I'll use it until Jack flips or is mech cleared somehow. The Lilypetal wagon yesterday was extremely wolfy and I feel like its motovation was to save wolf!Jack.

If that's not convincing you on wolf!Jack:
- Jack seemed mostly worried about how he looked than solving.
- Jack's play here is not matching King of the Hill.
- Mac was wolfreading Jack with an actual tell.
- Mac would say we should always sort the counterwagon.

Again, why does a save on Jack have to be 5 wolves over?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:43 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:07 pm
anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:01 pm didn't sabi claim mason or am i tripping? its either that or she scumslipped maybe
I claim neither.

I crumbled what my role is already. I'm tracker. I tracked anne N1. My report came out with no results.
ait a second

How come sabi said "I tracked anne N1." and not "I tracked you N1."

This is a response to anne after all.

Was this written with the thread audience in mind instead of the person who asked the question? Am I overthinking this?

No, I like this a lot.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:21 pm And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.
Engage me baby

I tried earlier my guy, where are my responses?

~~~

Maybe I'm tilted to much towards trying to understand the threadstate more so than the players. I just still don't see how Jack wolf nks Rondo instead of Creature.

Falcon/Schia I think are way better yeets than Jack right now. Even Nook I think feels a better yeet than Jack.

Fuck man. I keep getting logged out everytime I try to post. This is the 5th attempt for this one.

Cookies may be fucked on my mobile or something.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:21 pm And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.
Let's say I'm wrong and Falcon is a wolf. Who is Falcon's partner in that much easier world?

I think it'd clear creature at least.

When I say easier, I mean for more so understanding the threadstate. It seems we are struggling to form a towncore, an afk wolf may be the reason why we are casting our net too wide.

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:08 pm Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.

1 wolf in Creature/Obscurity/Porscha maybe Anne/Neon if I'm starting to reassess the clears I gave them.

Schiavetto's slot can be a wolf.

Nook can be a wolf.

This gamestate doesn't point to you being wolf. Lucy/Seanzie I would need to be really hard pressed into revoking the Sabi clear. I don't see pyxxy's posts having a scum angle too. Hard to detour me from that one at this point.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:35 pm @Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I don't understand where your SR on me comes from.

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