The Syndicate

I blame Scotty

We've gone full silly this eod

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:42 pm How could DM prove themselves Town if they are allowed to survive this lynch?

What would it take?

Or would they just stay as a risky unknown until a later yeet?

You were in timelines with W DM. I'm surprised you aren't advocating the differences between these games.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:37 pm I just skimmed DM and there's definitely evidence of their town range now.

The meta check on that slot I think is quick enough to do. Check out timelines where W DM was decently inactive and had seemingly less direction.
search.php?author_id=54&t=2587

I think the big difference is the process DM is taking towards Abi this game.

Maybe it's just me.

You linked SVS' iso.

Lol sorry, I what I get for multitabbing on phone:
search.php?author_id=1208&t=2587

Like, I'm not super sure and the DM wagon is informative at the least, but I Ted Lasso I flipped T DM when I knew they were town and I was correct. If I do it again I'll be kicking myself.

I just skimmed DM and there's definitely evidence of their town range now.

The meta check on that slot I think is quick enough to do. Check out timelines where W DM was decently inactive and had seemingly less direction.
search.php?author_id=54&t=2587

I think the big difference is the process DM is taking towards Abi this game.

Maybe it's just me.

baker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:06 pm in my first ever FM game someone said a good town can chop wolves on D1 and D2. then they referenced games from Achromatic, JaggedJimmyJay and MacDougall.

I guess we will never be that good xd~

Good/bad it's not that straightforward ever. It's about minimizing and maximizing capacity for town victory with what conditions we have.

LC/Abi have been here but have been semi Slanky.

Garebare and Robyn are just dead in the water.

Thread tension pulls you, Stick and DM to the forefront.

Out of these options the angle that I think gives town the best chance is the latter

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:23 pm What I should probably do is check some meta on Stick and Baker and DM, but I can't be bothered.

I'm also too busy to do so.

I've done light skimming of the past hour or so. There's a weird resistance in these wagons.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:57 pm nope, tired of being misunderstood and judged

Isn't that kinda the point of the game though?

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:19 pm has garebare posted at all today?

Not that I'm aware of and I'm not sure how we proceed on the slot.

Like assuming this is a 4 yeeter, we have 3 more misses. 2 if a 3 yeeter. Do we burn one to clean slot in a game where it's been generally difficult to build a PoE?

Baker D2

Scotty OMGUS hard

Second conclusions are around me and Abi

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:54 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:29 am

baker wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:53 pm Baker > Abigail > DM is my preferred vote as it stands.

Will vote out of line with Scotty though. [VOTE: DM] aubergine

I will townlean Wilgy for this post. I think we are all thinking Abi looks sus from this but honestly Scotty has been making pushes on a very false narrative that can harm town more. Wilgy voting DM here is a towny reaction to that.

Explain why ?

I think there was an observable difference in your D1 activity compared to what I know of your games in the past

+

Falcon was voting you and the Falcon wagon was formed at EoD which was a CW to yours, people decided to vote on it or vote on slots that weren't yours. You had the highest votes before with Falcon/Scotty. It is possible someone avoided voting you for whatever reason that can't be cleared alignment wise atp

And I don't know what to make of this. Like, it's correct that Abi was at 2 and didn't go to 3, LC did first, but it's inherently incorrect thinking that Falcon was Abi's CW. LC was. LC absolved into Falcon. I guess this is in line with other statements of Abi has neg vote momentum and that's wolfy, but hard to say why that's wolfy? I guess I can see town making that observation in spite of it being wrong? Like a townie gut feeling built on incorrect data? Does a wolf use incorrect data like this as a mistake to make a non ai generalization around a slot?

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 pm

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!

this is an ok prod tbh given the gamestate

this post kinda reeks.


Eh, I'm kinda done with this. Keep getting distracted by the kids.

Baker's ISO is still bad but there's like afew very small bits of interaction that I can see from both angles. I think the thing I found most concerning that I hadn't noticed previously is the tendency to play kinda buddy buddy with afee players.

I get the time constraints make things hard and lack of familiarity makes things hard, but that didn't prevent a strong conclusion being pulled on Scotty during the omgus and that's kinda a big hangup for me.

baker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:09 pm also sorry again for not gaming, i have school stuff -_-

feel free to chop me if you must

I hope your school stuff is going well for you.

Baker d1

baker wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:15 pm i think i am gonna sheep chibi fami on d1

Arbitrary

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:46 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:38 pm

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:37 pm When is the EoD anyway

22 minutes

fami senpai is still drinking probably.

i am a sucker for early one-tailed directions and saving my energy for later

you mentioned i am less likely to be a wolf & more likely to be a villager

ig i can sheep you instead

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!

Arbitrary and overly buddy buddy

Baker's d1 was as poor as I remember. They were in and out for most of the day and not one conclusion or rhyme to their reason was provided.

Martin Baker not W/W

Oddly enough, Martin is becoming a much firmer town read as the people I see are unlikely partners to them.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:40 pm I don't have much to say to argue /against/ a Baker or DM yeet here.

I'm at the point where DM has earned the "let them cook" slot.

LC and Stick have fallen out of that domain.

My preferred yeet RN is Baker for reasons I've explained previously. Also the lack of response to me in spite of voicing that feels like they are choosing to not be forthcoming at this point

Abd I guess I get it because Martin I feel like is someone I could put back on PoE and be fine with that, but I don't think that's correct as it stands.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.

Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.

With Stick it feels more like "In keeping my options open on you" rather than I'm changing my conclusions on you. For whatever that's worth.

I guess something else of note. There seems to be a lot of unoriginal ideas from Stick in spite of them having 85 posts.

I don't think it changes where I'd put them on the rainbow though. Carry on.

Stick d2 review

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:58 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:01 pm also, like

re "crazy"

I guess I could be crazy but honestly fuck that the opinion / not you, we have 250ish posts, several very low posting/contributing players, and I'm not consistently superb at playing mafia

right now I'm just trying, saying things, dumping whatever thoughts I have that might even be 10% relevant

contributing somehow in the hopes we all figure something out

maybe that constitutes crazy but like its not as if I can avoid being that if the circumstances promote it or whatever

ok i know i just said i had a townlean on you but this is giving performative wolf vibes again im sorry flsdfl

More hedging on the Martin alot lol

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:01 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:02 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

I give this vote a B-

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:53 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol

I give this vote a C-, borderline F.

Voting a wagon while hedging a town? Makes me just want to townread LC by association with this vote.

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!

I give this vote a C- as well.
I don’t know baker as a player, but this screams performative, and not in the one winning any awards

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:12 pm [VOTE: Falc] aubergine I've missed you buddy

I give this vote a B+
Being that it was the initial vote and stayed there for the last 2 hours of the day, while Wilgy was involved and present, is not incredibly suspicious.

Gotta be honest, I came into today based on backreading comments at end of day wanting Wilgy’s head, but I don’t think his vote on that wagon is the most suspicious after looking at the votes in iso.

Baker had seemingly no reason to vote falcon based on what’s shown. It could be said Stick was just looking to ‘consolidate their vote’ which is a towny quality in binary terms, but the post voting for LC while shrugging about the falcon vote was super weird to me.

this is...a pretty ok analysis of those votes, ill say. mostly because i think your assessment of what my vote there looks reasonable and id have agreed with it if those posts werent made my me LOL

agreement with Scotty's review

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:03 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm Something funky with that end of day vote pile on falcon.
I’m looking at you, Martin/wilgy/stick/baker.

Not all of those are bad, but I find it hard to believe that was all town. Nothing about falcon seemed particularly suspicious to me.

My initial perception is it was a save on Abbi based on votes, but that’s if there were 3+ mafia. Abbi didn’t even save herself which is…uhhh…sure something.

Anyway 9v3 seems overpowered. Could be 9 v 2 v 1 I guess.
But I dunno what the 3p would be. SK seems almost impossible with no kill last night.

Probably operating under 10v2 with some powerful scum PRs until we see a reason to believe otherwise.

Weird implying I was part of the pile on.

10 v 2 is a 4 misyeeter
9 v 3 is a 3 misyeeter

Both theoretically within a realm of balance, the latter being slightly scum favored. Probably try to play for the first and hope?

You weren’t. You started it- I clarified in my next post.

I think you came out of that looking townier, which is annoying because I really thought I had you

okay this is a pretty townie development of thought ngl

into townie process actually seems like reasonable progression

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:19 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:35 am @Stick what happened with the first point? so much for believing falcon was town then being a part of the vote to lynch them at end of day 1....

nah i only said that to see how falcon would react to it lol. i wouldve townread them if theyd just accepted that garbage read but instead they went on to explain their meta and how they do this every game which was a response i'd chalked up to NAI. my thought was: wolves would feel bound to correct someone reading them on those grounds so as to not come off as opportunistic about accepting naked townreads on them, whereas villagers generally dont actually care about these things that early in the game and ignore it/accept the read in a nonserious way. i thought their response was ultimately just nai though cuz town can point out inaccurate rationales just as well. falcon reacting to my read in the alternative way wouldve been more telling. /shrug

Checks out

After this there's a bunch of back and forth with dm that seems decently akin to my own thoughts prior to DM joining the game fully.

Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.
The DM interactions of recent can be seen 2 ways.
1. Town spotted the same omgus behavior that DM tends to do as any alignment and reads it as scummy (easy to do I think as I'm still borderline on the slot with only slight townie pings from other solving behavior I see from DM)
2. Wolf with pressure saw that DM could be a pivotable CW and is in effort to take it.

Conclusion.

I'd put Stick at like the bottom of yellow. Above null but below town leans. Stick can be a wolf, there's some merit to it in interactions with DM, LC, and Martin. Stick can be T, there's some to merit to it in interactions with Abi, DM, Scotty. I'd not flip right now, but also wouldn't cry about it. I think other wolf reads take priority than the hedgey Stick slot.

Holy shit ow. My jaw just locked/cramped on one side and it was like super painful. Never happened before. Ow.

I need more water and less coffee.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:06 pm I think DM has shown some signs of their town range.

Guess I'm at Baker > DM but will stay in Stick for shits and giggles

youre being good at this game again, i like you

Your omgus tendencies, while consistent through your alignment, doesn't fail to entertain me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:01 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:44 pm

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:49 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:47 am DM has now done two things I actually noticed that I think are a bit towny. So no, Stick, we shall not team up at this juncture. Soz.

pls share

There was this sequence:

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:53 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:52 am

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:51 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine





@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.

most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much

Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.

wow, so kind individuals

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:55 am

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine





@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

why are so many of your recent votes related to bashing me?

im not even one of your 3 votes; im on baker, but i could be petty and make it 4 on you

i wont, since i think baker is scummier, but after your recent posts i think i might feel differently

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:56 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:52 am

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:51 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine





@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.

most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much

Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.

not even the ones that were quoted multiple times? so much for paying attention and playing the game

I like how they roll their eyes at my post (which does come across as a bit 'wow rude' though it wasn't my intention), go bring up something else, then come back to roll their eyes even harder at me.

It felt like genuine mild annoyance at what I'd said, and now reading it in slow mo I remember scum can be genuinely annoyed too, but in the moment my initial instinct was a towny annoyance.


I don't remember what the second thing was, now.

That certainly doesn’t change the diaper for me

NO NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT NOT HERE TOO

Stick review d1

Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:01 am 1. I’m choosing to believe falcon’s townclaim until further notice

2. Scotty is probably a villager for attempting to make reads right out of the gate

Potential tmi on Falc

Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:36 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:32 pm

Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:08 pm

Garebare2468 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:18 pm This is my first game.

what's your motivation in mafia? Like what attracts you to the game or what brings you to this site or etc?

I don't feel much excitement from this, which is fine as everyone plays and treats forum mafia differently, but it gets me concerned I will understand so little of you that I won't be able to tell if you're town or not just because you could be different from me.

this felt a little too phoned in, forgor to comment on it earlier

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

phoned in? O.o

and generally yes poll votes are official vote, just vote tags help track history

it's like youre trying to show us that youre thinking about the game very hard? but in like a lowkey performative way? i could just be misreading your playstyle - sorry if that's the case xd. still early in the phase tho we got time, this isnt a strong read at all

Further support of the no Martin/Stick team. Upon review, this one comes across as pretty hedgey.

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:26 am martin's made some redeeming posts and im happy to join them on [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

flips boat on Martin

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:59 pm honestly, wilgy's scumgame (going off the one game ive played with them) was a lot more centered on posting busy work and, well, showing some kind of process even if it was not the most intuitive way one would solve


not to say people cant have different playstyles as scum varying from game to game, but something to note because i dont really see that kinda play from wilgy here

Second conclusion drawn from Stick that at least has depth to it is on me.

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:18 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:16 am Abbi is gonna reread this from the start this time hopefully with like... the ability to retain info

No, impossible, I've tried 3 times already.

like i am probably unironically just going to townread this even tho it's the easiest post in the world to fake

weird as the meta call on me was already made. Feels extra.

Towards EoD there's some suspicion thrown at LC and Baker and then ending ultimately on Falc who had the loos rvs town read earlier.

Eh, Sticks d1 was very meh. Much of d1 was very meh, so I don't know how to quantify against that. I'll say the hedgey behavior towards Martin, the extra flashiness and statements about ending on LC without context towards LC make me feel worse about the slot than I had previously.

Martin and Stick not W/W
MR and Stick not W/W

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:17 am apologies, i’ll be posting tomorrow

I think DM has shown some signs of their town range.

Guess I'm at Baker > DM but will stay in Stick for shits and giggles

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:19 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:33 pm Longus Congus feels like they've lost momentum and that is strange to me.

fwiw when they said the wagon that formed on baker was good, I kinda felt like that observation reflected positively on Long Con

but that's probably just mostly my gut rather than me subconsciously detecting anything AI

Which post was this?

My brain is currently, as the kids say, zoinko oingo boingo'd

Who is a Satanic Wolfwalker?
Poll runs till Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:00 pm


Scotty
1
9%
☆Princess Abigail☆
1
9%
robyn
0
No votes
Long Con
0
No votes
Master Radishes
0
No votes
DarlingMonroe
2
18%
Stick
4
36%
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Garebare2468
0
No votes
baker
0
No votes
MartinGG99
0
No votes

Robyn's reentry was poot.

MR's was not poot.

Longus Congus feels like they've lost momentum and that is strange to me.

PoE feels like:
DM, Garebare, Baker, Robyn.

That's at least better than before.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:03 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:24 pm aw come on

I was hoping I would die so I can focus on stuff I got from the holidays and not have to deal with our thread activity issue

would have more to say but I think its best to not really discuss the lack of night kill in order to avoid showing who's our power roles

'Aw shucks, too bad I didn't die like I thought was a legit possibility seeing as I'm town!'

Ew.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:42 pm Hope we've got a couple more power roles! That sucked.

'Oh gee willickers that sure is bad for us, fellow town!'

Double ew.

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99

i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight

'That sure was not a good result, fellow town!'

(Already said 'ew' in more words above ^ but quoting again for emphasis of how 'ew' these posts all are collectively.)

Hell yeah, mine isn't on here. I pass.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:57 pm Okay it wasn't that bad an iso but also it wasn't that good an iso either.

If I'm being unfair I'd nitpick these:

Spoiler: show

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99


i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight

Out of context (I haven't really read EoD1) this is a performative post. She later says it was lighthearted or whatever but I don't really see where the jokey bit of it is?

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:01 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:02 pm

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:53 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol

I give this vote a C-, borderline F.

Voting a wagon while hedging a town? Makes me just want to townread LC by association with this vote.

this is...a pretty ok analysis of those votes, ill say. mostly because i think your assessment of what my vote there looks reasonable and id have agreed with it if those posts werent made my me LOL

I hate these kind of 'your process was good even though you're wrong' placating sorta posts. Just comes across a appeasy for the sake of it.

There's little else I really had feelings about, which is kind of just as worrying. I feel like I shouldn't be reading one of the higher posters and thinking 'eh, that post could come from town, but also from scum' every time I read one of their posts. Has she gotten tangled up in any arguments? Again, massive caveat that I've not read everything closely, but I feel like she's sort of on the sidelines of things?

Anyway I'm always super indecisive when solving and I've vowed to myself to be more decisive from now on even if I end up wrong so Stick is lock mafia and you're all going to vote her with me and I will be your town captain now.

Aye aye captain
[VOTE: stick ] aubergine

Who is a Satanic Wolfwalker?
Poll runs till Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Scotty
1
9%
Voters: baker
☆Princess Abigail☆
1
9%
Voters: Long Con
robyn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
1
9%
Voters: Stick
DarlingMonroe
1
9%
Voters: MartinGG99
Stick
1
9%
Voters: Master Radishes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Garebare2468
0
No votes
Voters: None
baker
3
27%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, Scotty
MartinGG99
0
No votes
Voters: None
The Papists (host/spec)
3
27%
Voters: Epignosis, S~V~S, leetic
Total votes: 11

Idk doods. It's kinda awkward as the no kill and a town protection role already being dead does, if slightly, increase the chance for the wolves to just be afk lol

Are we gonna talk about the no kill actually? Do we think we have another protective or do we think wolves are asleep?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:24 pm I feel like I've done more than enough today for "I think we all think Abigail is scummy" to become "Abigail is readable actually" and yanno the only explanation I've got for scumminess is activity and that I was a CW

Which is asanine the wagons were T v T

Aye, the value of your flip I agree is very relevant.

I think the takes that you had negative momentum are at least worth something.

But not your flip at this junction

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:16 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:05 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:29 pm I’m gonna say I want to just townread BOTH Martin and stick until I see otherwise that we’re being powerwolfed.

Martin has some weird assumptions and if there’s a more *likely* wolf between the two, it’s him. But for sake of town voices, I’ll hang my pants on their flagpole

I think my worldview lines up with yours and sticks.

DM and Baker are on the scummier side of things, still relatively inactive with the exception of bakers responses to you.

Garebare, Robyn, and MR are inactive in a way that feels truly null.

Long Con and Abi are active enough and there's been nothing immediately suspect about those two.

You, Martin and Stick are active and I find I at least agree with most of what's stated from you/Stick and Martin has at least shown things I see from a townie perspective.

oh good sir please explain how we are on the scummier side of things. i really want to hear what are those things

Yeah, just like falcon was on the scummier side of things

I never said falcon was scummy. They weren't present. This is funny however, it feels like instead of solving, you'd rather try to discredit my read without actually reading me and using incorrect reasoning to discredit.

This comment really does nothing for you, town OR the gamestate yet you felt the need to do it?

serves to humble you; its okay being wrong and even brave to admit it

Assuming that I'm the one who needs to be humbled is a very interesting take in my character

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm On the: If Scotty, Stick or Martin contains a wolf. At this rate, I think I lose? Like, my PoE rn is effectively 6 due to activity, and that's game losing already let alone if that PoE is wrong.

if youre town, u refusing the possibility of any of the other falcon votes being bad is just a game-losing guarantee

I'm literally voting a falcon voter lmao

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:06 pm I've already done so

You disagreed with my scumread on Scotty wow

Why did you vote Falcon?

Yo, did you go from micro reading Scotty's nuance to not even trying to read as to why it looked suspicious at your own convenience?

Allow me to make it easier. You fluff posted all of day 1. Bandwagoned a town for little reason. Advised that you had a suspicion of me/Abi without explanation. As soon as you have suspicion you can suddenly go into hyper nuanced reads against the oerson who suspects you BUT also not provide that anywhere else?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:05 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:29 pm I’m gonna say I want to just townread BOTH Martin and stick until I see otherwise that we’re being powerwolfed.

Martin has some weird assumptions and if there’s a more *likely* wolf between the two, it’s him. But for sake of town voices, I’ll hang my pants on their flagpole

I think my worldview lines up with yours and sticks.

DM and Baker are on the scummier side of things, still relatively inactive with the exception of bakers responses to you.

Garebare, Robyn, and MR are inactive in a way that feels truly null.

Long Con and Abi are active enough and there's been nothing immediately suspect about those two.

You, Martin and Stick are active and I find I at least agree with most of what's stated from you/Stick and Martin has at least shown things I see from a townie perspective.

oh good sir please explain how we are on the scummier side of things. i really want to hear what are those things

Yeah, just like falcon was on the scummier side of things

I never said falcon was scummy. They weren't present. This is funny however, it feels like instead of solving, you'd rather try to discredit my read without actually reading me and using incorrect reasoning to discredit.

This comment really does nothing for you, town OR the gamestate yet you felt the need to do it?

On the: If Scotty, Stick or Martin contains a wolf. At this rate, I think I lose? Like, my PoE rn is effectively 6 due to activity, and that's game losing already let alone if that PoE is wrong.

I've already done so

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:29 pm I’m gonna say I want to just townread BOTH Martin and stick until I see otherwise that we’re being powerwolfed.

Martin has some weird assumptions and if there’s a more *likely* wolf between the two, it’s him. But for sake of town voices, I’ll hang my pants on their flagpole

I think my worldview lines up with yours and sticks.

DM and Baker are on the scummier side of things, still relatively inactive with the exception of bakers responses to you.

Garebare, Robyn, and MR are inactive in a way that feels truly null.

Long Con and Abi are active enough and there's been nothing immediately suspect about those two.

You, Martin and Stick are active and I find I at least agree with most of what's stated from you/Stick and Martin has at least shown things I see from a townie perspective.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:55 am Just gonna put this down here, but your crack back suspicion looks exactly the same as it did when you were wolf in timelines:
viewtopic.php?p=1093219#p1093219

Small sample size, but I can see it

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine to give baker some space to cool jets

Mindful that I retracted this one.

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:26 am i think DM is a good yeet for today btw, i dont really get where a lot of their thoughts are coming from

The alot feels stunted wolf to me, but I'll play nice and provide time for the reads they are working on.

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:06 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:22 pm
I noticed. Didn't have time to retract.

is this serious, are you saying to intended to retract?? why

Retract the question that Scotty answered later? Yee

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:30 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:22 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 am catching up soon, but hella SUS of Wilgy's + Martin's vote towards me....

Why would you be sus of that? You haven't been here and are an unknown element that needs to be removed.

Tbh killing unknown elements is gonna just kill a lot of towns for no info in most cases

Most likely yes. Just a matter of when those odds are best in our favor if we must.

In both Severance and Ted Lasso you had a means of hunting and searching for wolves that was picked up on.

Where is that this game?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:44 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:42 am this is not wilgy town play, at all

Define town Wilgy play. You've seen me town twice and Wolf once. I don't think I'm playing like either this game.

out of the 3 games, the only time you were voting for me you were wolf, so.... just like this game

That's kinda just factually incorrect as I voted you out incorrectly in Ted Lasso.

But further, how am I supposed to know you are town?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:04 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:55 am Just gonna put this down here, but your crack back suspicion looks exactly the same as it did when you were wolf in timelines:
viewtopic.php?p=1093219#p1093219

which I did the same thing on Severance when wolves tried to take me out creating a weak, false narrative

Fair, double checked as I only remembered you doing it in timelines.
viewtopic.php?p=1083827#p1083827

Your omgus does appear to be nai.

Just gonna put this down here, but your crack back suspicion looks exactly the same as it did when you were wolf in timelines:
viewtopic.php?p=1093219#p1093219

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:42 am this is not wilgy town play, at all

Define town Wilgy play. You've seen me town twice and Wolf once. I don't think I'm playing like either this game.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:41 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:22 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 am catching up soon, but hella SUS of Wilgy's + Martin's vote towards me....

Why would you be sus of that? You haven't been here and are an unknown element that needs to be removed.

why do i need to be removed if im town, im almost convinced youre wolf

How do I know you are town?