The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:47 pm I’m actually leaving my vote on Epi. Mostly because they haven’t posted since I started on page 12ish but I don’t see any compelling reason to vote Dunya or Nova and I don’t feel like Slooneiing with a vote I don’t intend to let sit still to try to make waves.

Really dislike this vote, but ive gotta go accounting calls to me from the fiery depths of hell, no offense MP

Also iI'd like to point out dom is saying i voted for him which never happened.

Linki: it seemed like your town than i remembered the othet game with you. And I'll be honest it kinda is a forced vote. I don't like it, but I also don't want epi/dunya to be lynched.


@mp it's mainly based off of Macs point on speed.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:36 pm Hey sig! Do you suspect Daisy and that's why you're saying that? Is nova your preferred lynch? If you had sole control over the lynch outcome, who would die?

I just saw someone mention lynching her, but no right now she's null. No nova isn't, I'd say I don't really have preferred lynch. I've got alot more civ reads than mafia. I see the reasoning for why speed could be bad so could go there or another low poster.

Someone asked me about mac and lc. Mac is a solid civ read right now LC is a civ lean. I think he's wrong on dunya and hasn't posted much of anything else that i remember.


The only issue ive got with dunya is her vote especially seeing how she's the second wagon.

Its daisys birthday can't so I'd rather not lynch her.

I explained my nova vote, but it's weak

Ignore those rouge comma's trying to post in class isn't going that great. :P

I'm done talking with Dom, unless he brings up actual points against me or has something relevant to say about another player. We're getting nowhere talking and, at least in my mind, he has no interest in actually engaging me.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] I'm voting there for mainly three reasons.
Nova's been present and posted, but hasn't really said much of anything.
Looking over some games mafia!Nova lurks like they're doing now. I'd add a slightly caveat by saying civ Nova does this also, but it seems to be to a lesser degree.
I don't like the main wagons and would prefer we lynch here or find someone else.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:19 pm sig doesn't want to vote for new guy wolbre but wants to vote for newb nova.

Again proves my point on Dom. He has no interest in actually trying to figure out if I'm mafia or apparently even reading the thread he just wants to lynch me. Since not only have I said that I played with Nova here, but I'm pretty sure he did also. Not to mention just reading the thread and how people have interacted with Nova vs Wolbre should be able to show you that fact.

Furthermore I don't have a good enough reason to vote for Wolbre who's actively contributing, minus his NO U vote of Epi he's looking good. (Plus I invited him to TS so I'd have to be a real jerk to lynch him day 1 :P )

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:30 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:23 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:26 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

what are you implying? why did you choose to call sig out on this but not Sloonei for his meta-comments on Choutas/Colin/Kites from RYM a post above yours?

I'm not implying anything; I just thought it was a bit presumptuous for sig to be all like "here's some info about wolbre!" before anyone even asked. It's sig though (I love the guy but he does say things without being prompted, so it's not out of character), and I don't think there's anything meaningful there upon reflection.

So nobody here minus me have played with Wolbre, so nobody has any idea of his meta or even how he acts as a person yet its presumptuous/ping worthy that I lay out what I know about his meta? This doesn't make any sense, like of course I'm going to say things without being promoted especially when its knowledge on someone only I'd have. I've done the same thing with Glorfindel multiple times which has helped us to lynch him. It's more than just weird how you jumped at me about my read it's an early game baddie move.

The underlined portion of MP's post is also out there, it seems like disingenuous backtracking since the fish weren't biting on his read or it could be since it put him in the hot seat.

Either way as of right now MP is my biggest mafia read, so I'll be throwing down a vote there. [VOTE: MP] aubergine

I also agree the Turnip thing was a bit off, but he hasn't played mafia in a year or so correct? I expect he'd be a bit rusty and maybe not ready to just jump into a game with so many new faces. However, we should keep in mind that this is a more self preservation approach which is more common among mafia.

We're sorry, but the phrases you've used here have no discrete meaning. Please, try rephrasing your thoughts so they actually mean something.

Thank you and goodbye.

One big posts of snark, maybe this is the question he meant? But, it's not a question at all and if it was and he really really really needed me to answer it guess what he could do? Rephrase it, quote the post, or just ask it again. Which he never did he just kept going on about how I know what posts he means and I'm a baddie for not answering. Or some such nonsense.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:07 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:42 pm I agree with people who say Scotty is looking good, but I could see why Dunya might think he's bad. Right now they're both leaning civ.

Sorry, what?

lol

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:11 am I want to hear more about Dom. He took the time to underline and magnify superfluous words in a sig post, but not what it meant to him, why he did it and what purpose he was trying to achieve. Since you share his feelings, Mac, what does it mean?

I'm supposed to derive meaning from a post that I pointed out had no meaning in the first place?


That's exactly my point. Sig had a nice way of saying absolutely nothing in multiple paragraphs. Shady.


So refuses to actually answer Dunya's question and also says my posts has no meaning when it clearly does. So instead of taking the time to figure out my post or just ask me again he stays being snarky.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:22 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:25 am

Choutas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:21 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:01 am

Choutas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:00 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:33 am There now appear to be many game-relevant posts on day one. I blame MP, but I'm voting sloonei for now because yolo

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

This is sloppy. Yellow card for you another one and you get my vote.

Please, let me know what I need to do to get another yellow card.

But they're actually basically golden cards anyway.

Downplaying somebody's post.

Boom! I win!

I have a long history of taking votes on day one when town. You're finding out why right now. My day one record when not town is substantially cleaner.

Oops, there I go talking about my own meta. I ping myself!

In all seriousness though, why are you voting on such basic grounds? Don't you think it would be incredibly easy for me to have played a much cleaner game to date? My behaviour so far has been virtually asking for votes. Kyle even independent read me. Don't I strike you as an 'easy vote' right now?

You are a good player and I feel like you are playing with this post.

I mean that in a bad way.

How do you mean it?
You can't criticize sig for being vague and then do the same. Just because you're using less words than he is doesn't mean it's any better.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:31 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:11 am I want to hear more about Dom. He took the time to underline and magnify superfluous words in a sig post, but not what it meant to him, why he did it and what purpose he was trying to achieve. Since you share his feelings, Mac, what does it mean?

Sig's post is full of opinions qualified by wishy washy nothing comments and consistently crafted to remain relatively non committal.

I think it's generous to say that it's full of opinions or anything besides fluff.

And you wonder why I "personally attacked" you and called you childish?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:44 pm I addressed that actually, sig.

Unlike you.

Snarky

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:02 pm sig has yet to address my problems with his post, let dunya speak for him, and then put me on his suspect list with no rationale given.

Does the same thing, he gives no reasoning, but says I'm bad.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:37 am

My posts are amazing and filled with great things, amazing things, the best things!

Also I'll keep using words like odd or weird, things can be out of place and out of character, but that doesn't mean the person making the weird posts is more likely to be good or bad.

In regards to Turnip head, I found his random vote for MM weird, there's literally nothing else to add to that. It was a strange thing to do, but it seems NAI.
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Feel like actually addressing my original post or ignoring it?
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So again no clue what he wants me to address? Since there's nothing to address. I addressed that I use words like odd and weird if he doesn't like it than it sucks to be him.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:12 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:08 pm Also Dom's reaction to me putting him as a baddie lean, yes a lean it's not like I'm saying lets lynch him right now and if we can't lynch him someone shoot him, is way over the top. Especially considering I'm not even voting for him. He's acting like a baddie that got called out for a lame/nonexistent reason and is mad about it. I'd know since that literally just happened in my last baddie game.

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+1 to snarky/childish

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:13 pm I forgot that mafia works like that. I'm a child when I make a joke, but others tell people to "eat shit" and it's fine.

Great group.

+1 to snarky/childish


So in conclusion, Dom's made no real case or point against me, refused to actual tell me what he disliked and quote his original question even though I asked him to and couldn't be bothered to read my posts and see my opinion.

It seems to be Dom's just pissy since he doesn't like the way I post, doesn't like that I didn't immediately answer his nonexistent question when I was contributing in many other more important ways, and doesn't like that I have him as a gut mafia read. He's accusing me of NO Uing if anything he's the one doing it.

And claiming I changed my vote since nobody is following me just shows Dom is either tunneling to such an extreme he's not bothering to read my posts or just isn't paying attention in the game.

I've said I didn't plan to leave my vote on MP. I also said MP wasn't a solid mafia read, but a lean and that I'd probably switch off of him.

Furthermore I made it very clear that I don't want either Epi or Dunya lynched and Nova, someone who I'm okay with seeing lynched, had 2 votes.
Trying to make it out that I only switched since nobody was joining me on MP is disingenuous and just wrong.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:29 pm sup, jack?

turnip--

sig made a post where he used at least three instances of waffling language that was devoid of meaning. I pressed him to make meaning of them and to tell me exactly what he meant. He ignored me. When i pressed again, he said the post was snide and childish. When I pressed again, he claimed to not know what post I spoke of. His story changes and he suddenly suspects me out of it. When I said he didn't give a reason, he said "No! I said gut!!!" He went on to say that I am freaking out that he suspects me (lol)and then wanted to claim I'm leading the lynch train against dunya-- I'm not.

Sig changed his vote because no one joined him. He's squirming and looking for somewhere non-descript to vote.

Wow you finally gave your reasoning kind off, yet still refuse to quote the post or just you know ask your question again. IF you suspect someone and they ask you to just ask your question again and you refuse to than it isn't my problem if you don't get an answer.

Explain to me how your not being childish, when this post alone you're acting snarky/childish, but sure Dom keep pretending you have the moral highground here.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.

Why

I'm not a fan of dunya's vote fot turnip

And I'll think on that mac.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:13 am Pretty sure speedchuck is bad

Why?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:00 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am [VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

You don't have to 'settle' yet. We have 9 hours to find another road to go down.

My activity is going to probably be non-existent today so I'm in a bit of a rush to get my vote somewhere that I'm comfortable with.

Though i still find dom and to a lesser extent mp suspicious.

This epi lynch is basically the nornal day 1 epi does junk and gets voted for it and he's usually a civ when that happens.

FE is a great recent example, I'm really wary of the epi voters especially the ppl who've played with him before

[VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:16 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:11 am Both wagons are horrible, epi is playing within his civ meta this is day 1 epi.
The dunya scimslip is unrealistic plus there are other forms of btsc than scum chat.

I'd like everyone to look over Dom especially after his push that dunya scumslipped.

Dom hasn’t really pushed it - if anyone has, that person is Epi...

He was the first one to bring it up correct?

Also i don't like wolbre vote its very No u onto epi. I also don't like how he's playing the new player card.

Also I'm in class for almost all of today so don't expect many posts. And I'll be in a test for eod.

Both wagons are horrible, epi is playing within his civ meta this is day 1 epi.
The dunya scimslip is unrealistic plus there are other forms of btsc than scum chat.

I'd like everyone to look over Dom especially after his push that dunya scumslipped.

Kyle's making me chuckle so we should leave him alive.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:19 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:53 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:56 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:42 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:58 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

I don't like this post its weird, light scum ping on MP

What don't you like about it ? Him calling you out ?

Given I share his perspective I am going to assume you aren't trying and are bad.

I'm trying but unlike you I don't share his perspective since I didn't like his initial post (sig's). It felt forced so I understand where MP is coming from and why he asked him that. I'd like to know why he found MP's post bad.

First I think we played a few games here and there on TS, but we weren't active in them at the same time.

I found it bad that MP called me out for giving meta information on a player that nobody else knew anything about. Like why wouldn't I offer this information unprompted? Especially when it might not be common knowledge that we're from the same site.

Oh my bad then. I've been fairly inactive in most of my games here so I might have missed you.

Well, it looked more like a 'no you' post after he called you out. About your initial post, it was more the tone of it than the information shared that rubbed me wrong. I appreciate the info given but it felt like you were over excited to talk about it. Forced. A premeditated post. Something baddies often do to appear helpful.

No problem!

I still hold my scum lean on MP and still dislike his interaction with me, but nobody else seems to be seeing what I'm seeing with him. I mainly dislike that he flipped and is civ reading me now after calling me out so I wouldn't say my read on him is a NO U.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:20 pm As I’m catching up I’m liking sig quite a bit so town read to him.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:56 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:42 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:58 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

I don't like this post its weird, light scum ping on MP

What don't you like about it ? Him calling you out ?

Given I share his perspective I am going to assume you aren't trying and are bad.

I'm trying but unlike you I don't share his perspective since I didn't like his initial post (sig's). It felt forced so I understand where MP is coming from and why he asked him that. I'd like to know why he found MP's post bad.

First I think we played a few games here and there on TS, but we weren't active in them at the same time.

I found it bad that MP called me out for giving meta information on a player that nobody else knew anything about. Like why wouldn't I offer this information unprompted? Especially when it might not be common knowledge that we're from the same site.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:24 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:20 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:14 pm Not that I've had a problem with Mac.

sig is just personally attacking me instead of looking at the content of the post because he has nothing to say.

I've said plenty you appear to be the one not saying much, just since I didn't address your point doesn't me i'm not saying anything. Also I'm not personally attacking you, I'm talking about your tone and your tone is snarky. Stop trying to play the victim card and just ask whatever question I didn't answer before.

linki: Guts a good reason, I know people who play entire games just by gut/tone reading. It's a legitimate day 1 strategy and like I already said I didn't advocate your lynch and even said leans are basically nothing why are you getting so riled up about it?

I'm not riled up about it?
I'm making points about why I don't think you are civ. Points I've made since before you said you suspected me.

Sure, gut is a justification people give, but come on, it' snot a "reason". Inherently, it's not a "reason". Reason would have some sort of "reasoning" behind it that "gut" inherently lacks.

You know exactly what the point I'd like you to address is, you'd just rather hide behind calling me a "child" and "snarky" (showing you know full well which post I'm talking about).

lol whatever, the fact you just won't ask the question again or quote the post is proving my point about your playstyle right now.

Just to be clear I'm not saying outside of this game that you're childish or attacking you on a personal level. I'm talking strictly about this game.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:14 pm Not that I've had a problem with Mac.

sig is just personally attacking me instead of looking at the content of the post because he has nothing to say.

I've said plenty you appear to be the one not saying much, just since I didn't address your point doesn't me i'm not saying anything. Also I'm not personally attacking you, I'm talking about your tone and your tone is snarky. Stop trying to play the victim card and just ask whatever question I didn't answer before.

linki: Guts a good reason, I know people who play entire games just by gut/tone reading. It's a legitimate day 1 strategy and like I already said I didn't advocate your lynch and even said leans are basically nothing why are you getting so riled up about it?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:45 am Dom: Hasn't posted much yet, but his current posts are gut reading bad to me: Mafia lean

Also I did give a reasoning, its based off of gut his posts have been off. It might not be the best reason out there, but some of my best day 1s have been because I've followed my gut.

Also Dom's reaction to me putting him as a baddie lean, yes a lean it's not like I'm saying lets lynch him right now and if we can't lynch him someone shoot him, is way over the top. Especially considering I'm not even voting for him. He's acting like a baddie that got called out for a lame/nonexistent reason and is mad about it. I'd know since that literally just happened in my last baddie game.

Did you have a problem with my post? All I saw was you acting like a snarky child since you don't like my posting style.

Quote the post and I'll answer it.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:44 pm I addressed that actually, sig.

Unlike you.

It doesn't matter if you addressed it, I can still not like it. Plus why did you ask the question than address it? Perhaps you wanted to make sure your opinion didn't stand out?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:34 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:52 am wolbre04 When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?

D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire
Dunya was really helpful, but basically a neutral leaning town
MP seems towny-ish, his interactions have been generally NAI with others with an exception or two

For the most part the thread is a half dozen people talking and the others might not be here when the phase ends.
Also, I feel like if anyone wants to ask me a question they can because I want to clear myself as town right off the bat

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:32 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:16 pm OK you fence sitters- I'ma make a bold statement that I think sig is TOWN.

Tell me why I'm wrong without using previous metas.

I'm going to have to use previous experience alone to comment on this, but in the games where sig has been scum that I've participated in, he's hyper aggressive in my view at least. Here he hasn't really been aggro towards anyone. His town meta from a game I hosted is comparable to this, although a good number of his posts have been fluffy (but many of us are the same)

I like these two posts from wolbre at face value. He's a relatively new player in a foreign land, but he's managing to produce reads on a busy Day 1. That in itself is a good look, to say nothing of the actual content of these reads.

I'm a little concerned about sig's salad list of players in that first post though. @sig why did you prod wolbre for reads on those specific players?

They've all been fairly active and engaging with each other, plus I wanted the opinion of someone who has no meta with any of them since at the moment I'm leaning on their meta for my reads.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:16 pm What do you guys think of Mac boasting about his pingometer only to not update it through pages of the thread?

I don't like this question, like he's active in other ways and maybe he's updating it maybe not. Does it matter in the grand scheme of things?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:46 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:43 am

However, they can improve the glory of their victory after that by also neutralizing the opposing civilian faction.

@JaggedJimmyJay clarification question, what is meant here by neutralize?

Defeat.

that's not what i asked :/

in the context of this game does neutralize mean get rid of all of? in order to achieve the secret special bonus victory does that require 100% death of the alternative town faction or does it just require a numerical majority.

>:[

I'd guess whichever team has the most living players by the end of the game is the super winner. That's how all games with two civ factions have worked to my knowledge.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:43 pm fucking hell, 17 notifications and like 5 pages since i was here. you're all monsters.

Says the person who had 700+ posts in only two phases

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:03 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:49 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:30 am Welcome wolbre, nice to meet you.

Thank you <3

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:27 am @wolbre04, I look forward to seeing your reads!

also, do you think sig represented you accurately in the blurb below?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

Yeah that's pretty accurate. My first game of mafia ever on a forum was about five months ago, so I'm still learning steadily. I have never gotten mafia before but I won my second game ever as Serial Killer. I don't know if I can make a joke about the last sentence as it might be against the rules and I don't want to get killed immediately haha. But I don't really have a meta because I'm all over the place

So you're indie. Got it

Nice catch, but I wouldn't say it confirms anything at all.

[mention]wolbre04[/mention] When you get the chance what do you think of the Golden, MP, Mac, and Dunya?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:45 pm @Golden what's ur recent history? did u play/host many games while i wasn't around

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:43 am

However, they can improve the glory of their victory after that by also neutralizing the opposing civilian faction.

@JaggedJimmyJay clarification question, what is meant here by neutralize?

These are the only two on topic posts from Kyle. The first one is NAI, but I don't like the second post. It seems like he's trying to contribute and ask questions while also hanging back.

Though just to throw out my opinion of the Spartan vs Athena thing, I think we should ignore it and just act as if we're one team.


LC hasn't posted much yet, but after a quick ISO I like what he's posted. I'd move him over to a civ lean. I'd also caution against anyone taking my LC read seriously since I can't read him at all.

Nonalignment Indicator, so the player would do it as a civ or baddie.

Here's a quick little list I've put together, most of my reads are shaky and I've got alot of Nulls, but for day 1 I'm feeling pretty good about my thoughts.

Civ Reads: I wouldn't lynch anyone here, but I'm not super sure of their alignment.
lapluie: She hasn't thrown out much content yet, but that's her meta so I'm not concerned. Gut civ read

Civ Leans: This is basically a foundation of a read, so slightly above a Null read.

Choutas: I liked his first few posts, but I don't have a meta for Choutas and he hasn't done enough to get a civ read. Civ lean
Sloonei: I'm liking his content so far. Civ lean
dunya: She hasn't been as active as she was in FE/MK, but that's NAI. I like her tone and content so far even though I think she's wrong on Scotty. : Civ lean.
Kites: I'm not good with reading Kites, but they seem to be playing the same as they did in FE. So slight civ lean
Golden: He's active and providing content and I'm not really seeing the criticism of his posts. Civ lean
MacDougall: Civ lean like his posts and content seems very Maclike
Scotty: I've already talked about Scotty, I'd put him down as a civ lean.

Null: No real read on them.

novaselinenever: Null read, but playing within their civ meta, which is a slight bump
Kylemii: Null, can't recall any of his posts.
wolbre04: Annoying GIFS are annoying, but one of them was of daddy trump so I'm conflicted. Null read
Long Con: Null, he's posted a few times, but haven't said anything that sticks out without me doing an ISO.
Lunalee: Null
Marmot: Null
ColinIsCool: Null
Epignosis: Seems very inactive for Epi, but it's day 1 and he's a real adult who does adulting things so I'm not to concerned. Null
Jackofhearts2005: No posts yet so super Null
Spacedaisy: Null

Mafia Lean

Dom: Hasn't posted much yet, but his current posts are gut reading bad to me: Mafia lean
speedchuck: I like that he's done a rainbow list, but my gut is pinged by him. Mafia lean
Turnip Head: His posts are weird and he hasn't given much content yet. Mafia lean.
M Plus 7: I've already explained this in game. However, I do agree he's posting alot so that's usually a civ indicator, but I've seen MP be the top poster as mafia. Mafia Lean

Can you explain your Epi vote? [mention]Golden[/mention] [mention]Scotty[/mention]

I'm getting more MK vibes from Dunya's posts than FE. She seems more genuine and less sly.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

You gave me a ponder and said it was weird. (Ironic seeing my last posts I know)

So I took it as you being suspicious of me.

I think it was Golden who said MP posted alot and I voted on one thing, I'd disagree. I'd say I voted for him based off the entirety of our interactions. The way he responded to me giving meta on Wolbre, than prodding/kind off suspecting me, to just back off and start civ reading me after other people chimed in looks like a baddie backtracking. However, there's a good chance I'll move my vote before the end of the day.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:02 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:58 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

I don't like this post its weird, light scum ping on MP

So sig is confusing 'weird' for 'bad' I think - understandable when the weird is directed at him, I think.

Sig - I think you were bad with MP in the scrimmage game, right? Did you think he was 'weird' then?

Yeah we were, I'd say no, but that's because I knew his alignment.

Something that I'm not seeing is MP playing messy at all, I'd be wary of people who are saying he is. Mainly since I'm seeing a slightly watered down version of supertown, which along with his interaction with me sets off the alarm.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:07 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:42 pm I agree with people who say Scotty is looking good, but I could see why Dunya might think he's bad. Right now they're both leaning civ.

Sorry, what?

lol

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:11 am I want to hear more about Dom. He took the time to underline and magnify superfluous words in a sig post, but not what it meant to him, why he did it and what purpose he was trying to achieve. Since you share his feelings, Mac, what does it mean?

I'm supposed to derive meaning from a post that I pointed out had no meaning in the first place?


That's exactly my point. Sig had a nice way of saying absolutely nothing in multiple paragraphs. Shady.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:22 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:25 am

Choutas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:21 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:01 am

Choutas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:00 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:33 am There now appear to be many game-relevant posts on day one. I blame MP, but I'm voting sloonei for now because yolo

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

This is sloppy. Yellow card for you another one and you get my vote.

Please, let me know what I need to do to get another yellow card.

But they're actually basically golden cards anyway.

Downplaying somebody's post.

Boom! I win!

I have a long history of taking votes on day one when town. You're finding out why right now. My day one record when not town is substantially cleaner.

Oops, there I go talking about my own meta. I ping myself!

In all seriousness though, why are you voting on such basic grounds? Don't you think it would be incredibly easy for me to have played a much cleaner game to date? My behaviour so far has been virtually asking for votes. Kyle even independent read me. Don't I strike you as an 'easy vote' right now?

You are a good player and I feel like you are playing with this post.

I mean that in a bad way.

How do you mean it?
You can't criticize sig for being vague and then do the same. Just because you're using less words than he is doesn't mean it's any better.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:31 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:11 am I want to hear more about Dom. He took the time to underline and magnify superfluous words in a sig post, but not what it meant to him, why he did it and what purpose he was trying to achieve. Since you share his feelings, Mac, what does it mean?

Sig's post is full of opinions qualified by wishy washy nothing comments and consistently crafted to remain relatively non committal.

I think it's generous to say that it's full of opinions or anything besides fluff.

My posts are amazing and filled with great things, amazing things, the best things!

Also I'll keep using words like odd or weird, things can be out of place and out of character, but that doesn't mean the person making the weird posts is more likely to be good or bad.

In regards to Turnip head, I found his random vote for MM weird, there's literally nothing else to add to that. It was a strange thing to do, but it seems NAI.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:22 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:42 pm I agree with people who say Scotty is looking good, but I could see why Dunya might think he's bad. Right now they're both leaning civ.

Can you expand on this, sig?

Dunya made some good points on Scotty, so from her perspective I can see why she'd vote for him. However, being more familiar with his meta I disagree with her reads. So I see her reasoning and I think it's coming from a civvie approach, I just think she's wrong.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:42 pm I agree with people who say Scotty is looking good, but I could see why Dunya might think he's bad. Right now they're both leaning civ.

This post also says nothing and nothing at the same time

What can I say, I'm getting ready for my future in politics.

I agree with people who say Scotty is looking good, but I could see why Dunya might think he's bad. Right now they're both leaning civ.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:29 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:11 pm I liked that MP kicked off the gameplay by offering a read on Scotty. Nothing had happened yet and MP breathed the first bit of life into the game.

I was less fond of his comment about sig’s post. Sig is a player who always draws suspicion, and MP was quick to put that on him here, directly or indirectly, for a post that I appreciated. There’s nothing wrong with offering perspective on a new and unfamiliar player if you’re priveleged to that information, it’s a nice thing to do.

This is a boring opinion. What else you got?

I love this post.

Do you have any new thoughts to share about sig?

He's a pretty swell guy and should never ever ever be lynched ever and sometimes goes by dog.

I also had something very profound and insightful to say, but I forgot it when I was writing my other post so oops.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:26 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

what are you implying? why did you choose to call sig out on this but not Sloonei for his meta-comments on Choutas/Colin/Kites from RYM a post above yours?

I'm not implying anything; I just thought it was a bit presumptuous for sig to be all like "here's some info about wolbre!" before anyone even asked. It's sig though (I love the guy but he does say things without being prompted, so it's not out of character), and I don't think there's anything meaningful there upon reflection.

So nobody here minus me have played with Wolbre, so nobody has any idea of his meta or even how he acts as a person yet its presumptuous/ping worthy that I lay out what I know about his meta? This doesn't make any sense, like of course I'm going to say things without being promoted especially when its knowledge on someone only I'd have. I've done the same thing with Glorfindel multiple times which has helped us to lynch him. It's more than just weird how you jumped at me about my read it's an early game baddie move.

The underlined portion of MP's post is also out there, it seems like disingenuous backtracking since the fish weren't biting on his read or it could be since it put him in the hot seat.

Either way as of right now MP is my biggest mafia read, so I'll be throwing down a vote there. [VOTE: MP] aubergine

I also agree the Turnip thing was a bit off, but he hasn't played mafia in a year or so correct? I expect he'd be a bit rusty and maybe not ready to just jump into a game with so many new faces. However, we should keep in mind that this is a more self preservation approach which is more common among mafia.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

But no one asked about wolbre yet.

Good to know nonetheless. Looking forward to playing with you, wolbre!

I don't like this post its weird, light scum ping on MP