The Syndicate

...You think LC is stubborn/hijacking town? That is a very strange reason to vote for LC. I don't like it.

@Epi if you're both cylons and he can be resurrected then why wouldn't you distance vote.

Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:Okay so I'm considering three people for today.

LC, I really dislike his game play so far, and I liked JJJ case on him. His only saving grace is agreeing with me about lynching the cylons.
Zebra, she seems to be playing more like her scummy meta. Not as active, building weaker cases, and I'm getting the same gut feel I got from her last game.
Epi, He is an outed Cylon and with the ship gone I'd like to see if we can lynch him and how he will flip. If he flips mafia then we know most cylons are bad. I also think he could've been the one to kill Ika, seeing how Ika was pushing to lynch Epi again. So I'm leaning towards mafia on Epi.

So here is a thought, in past games civs or mafia members could create events, usually polls but I've seen events before. Could there be no resurrection ship and this is all a ploy created by the cylons?
Maybe Epi just had a lynch proof power or something?

I don't see the reasons for a nutella lynch or for Rico.
"the" ship.

And I've already "flipped." What makes you think you're going to get anything new the second time around?
Not with your alignment though, I suspect we will see it if we lynch you and you don't resurrect. Just like when a player is lynched, but has a 1x abilty we don't see their alignment.
I see SVS thanks, I'm not quite sure that is lynch worthy though. I'll need to think on it.

I could see LC/Epi being cylons on the same team.

I'm going to go ahead and place a vote on epi.

Vote Epignosis

I can't justify leaving a cylon alive when I think they're mafia. I hope we can lynch Epi today, since I don't see why we're leaving him alive since cylons might be good. I think we should operate with the assumption they aren't good. Especially seeing how the breakdown of teams look humans vs cylons.

Way to cherry pick and ignore my next sentence, not to mention that one. We are going to let you live since some cylons cannon wise might be good and some bad humans might be on their team, but some cylons hate humans so they can't be on the same team yadyadyad. I see no issue with what I said.

I also love how LC went from kill all cylons to voting for me when I voted for Epi who he wanted lynched?

I think LC and Epi are both mafia cylons and LC was just putting on a show.

However, I wouldn't oppose an LC lynch today.

Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:Okay so I'm considering three people for today.

LC, I really dislike his game play so far, and I liked JJJ case on him. His only saving grace is agreeing with me about lynching the cylons.
Zebra, she seems to be playing more like her scummy meta. Not as active, building weaker cases, and I'm getting the same gut feel I got from her last game.
Epi, He is an outed Cylon and with the ship gone I'd like to see if we can lynch him and how he will flip. If he flips mafia then we know most cylons are bad. I also think he could've been the one to kill Ika, seeing how Ika was pushing to lynch Epi again. So I'm leaning towards mafia on Epi.

So here is a thought, in past games civs or mafia members could create events, usually polls but I've seen events before. Could there be no resurrection ship and this is all a ploy created by the cylons?
Maybe Epi just had a lynch proof power or something?

I don't see the reasons for a nutella lynch or for Rico.
"the" ship.

And I've already "flipped." What makes you think you're going to get anything new the second time around?

Not with your alignment though, I suspect we will see it if we lynch you and you don't resurrect. Just like when a player is lynched, but has a 1x abilty we don't see their alignment.
I see SVS thanks, I'm not quite sure that is lynch worthy though. I'll need to think on it.

I could see LC/Epi being cylons on the same team.

I'm going to go ahead and place a vote on epi.

Vote Epignosis

I can't justify leaving a cylon alive when I think they're mafia. I hope we can lynch Epi today, since I don't see why we're leaving him alive since cylons might be good. I think we should operate with the assumption they aren't good. Especially seeing how the breakdown of teams look humans vs cylons.

Also why did Vomp self vote?

Okay so I'm considering three people for today.

LC, I really dislike his game play so far, and I liked JJJ case on him. His only saving grace is agreeing with me about lynching the cylons.
Zebra, she seems to be playing more like her scummy meta. Not as active, building weaker cases, and I'm getting the same gut feel I got from her last game.
Epi, He is an outed Cylon and with the ship gone I'd like to see if we can lynch him and how he will flip. If he flips mafia then we know most cylons are bad. I also think he could've been the one to kill Ika, seeing how Ika was pushing to lynch Epi again. So I'm leaning towards mafia on Epi.

So here is a thought, in past games civs or mafia members could create events, usually polls but I've seen events before. Could there be no resurrection ship and this is all a ploy created by the cylons?
Maybe Epi just had a lynch proof power or something?

I don't see the reasons for a nutella lynch or for Rico.

hello!

I'm done my paper for the time.

If anyone has any questions let me know and I'll answer.

Welcome Wilgy.

Okay all caught up, I agree with JJJ read off LC, I think he is a baddie human or he could be a cylon trying to distance himself with his kill them all rhetoric.

I do also think Epi is bad and should be lynched, but that can wait.

I'd prefer to lynch LC today. I'll post more later after school.

I should be able to lead a sortie this weekend, but the next few days are no goes for me.

Long Con wrote:
sig wrote:My understanding for this is that the President of the Colonies made a law saying whoever died N1 needs to vote for whoever the Admiral wants, so basically the admiral has an extra vote.
My understanding is that the President didn't know ika was going to die, and thus made a law to try and control him in some way. The Admiral will most likely not receive an extra vote because ika died.

Also who created this pattern we are following? How do we know they aren't mafia.
And when I went off-pattern, you called me a Cylon.

You are bad. If I had to vote right now, I would vote for you.

Ah that makes more sense.

No see there is a different from switching the pattern, to just jumping in and picking any number which is what you did.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:How do we know there is a mafia? :P

The cylons are the mafia, I highly doubt golden would make a game without a mafia.

Silverwolf wrote:OK, So ika's main point was cylons are bad and that Epi was bad. Break it down, and that's what he was saying. So are we really gonna discount the fact that he could of died because of this or discuss why he did die besides the obvious fact that he was the most vocal town voice here?

Time to go recheck my list.

But, is there a point in lynching Epi again if he can just be revived? Shouldn't we hunt for someone else at this time?

Silverwolf wrote:
Golden wrote:A new law has been enacted by the President of the Colonies:

Ika Conscription Act: Ika has been conscripted into service and will be required to vote as per the orders of the Admiral.

Golden wrote:Dead people do not get to participate in democracy.
Golden, this game is confusing enough as it is, but when you do things like this, I'm gonna go crazy. These posts were posted after ika died so WTF?

My understanding for this is that the President of the Colonies made a law saying whoever died N1 needs to vote for whoever the Admiral wants, so basically the admiral has an extra vote.

Also who created this pattern we are following? How do we know they aren't mafia.

SokothQultuq wrote:So Say we all!

Dear gods, If I have to listen to IKA repeat himself over and over again about Cylon Scum I may have to cast a vote his direction for being a broken toaster... I'f I could go hide out on the hanger deck playing with some electronics what would be amazing vs. listening to that crap over and over. How about something a little more constructive...

Some interesting little clues left behind by some in there. I wish I could keep up with you mad posters.

I think its very important that we find that Resurrection ship. if we don't put enough resources into that we wont ever kill off the toasters that are more than meets the eye. Too bad we cannot dispatch more. A raptor would be handy that's for sure.

If I had more predictable posting times I would volunteer to take one of the selections but I think you guys have it well in hand. The idea of the checker board is great, but I also like the random choices. But that's just me.

Are you a cylon?

Golden wrote:A new law has been enacted by the President of the Colonies:

Ika Conscription Act: Ika has been conscripted into service and will be required to vote as per the orders of the Admiral.

That is interesting. Is it possibly that the president of the colony/admiral killed him. Or was this a blanket rule.

Either way I'm considering a vote for zebra. I really dislike her playstyle this game it's reminding me of her mafia game play. I'm also wary of JJJ and LC. However, at this point with him wanting to lynch all cylons I'd rather not lynch him. We could go with Epi, but I've got the feeling he'll just revive again. Or perhaps he won't and the mafia killed Ika so he wouldn't push an Epi vote?

linki:
So say we all

......

Guess we don't need to lynch Ika today.

SIlver would you kill Ika if you were mafia?

Long Con wrote:
bea wrote:how the hell did that quote 4 times????
I think we know the answer to that.
bea wrote:I will try to do the multi-quote thing as much as my sobriety allows.

lol

Only twenty more minutes until the night ends, if I die then I'll be very disappointed.

Golden wrote:Another general notice.

I am very busy toda, and Dom is also very busy, and this is a very active thread. It is hard for us to make sure that everyone is ok and that nobody has any hurt feelings.

Please, if anyone is feeling hurt, insulted, offended, upset... I ask that you do your very best to keep yourself from posting that into the thread.

PM me. PM Dom. Vent away to one or both of us. That's what we are here for.

If you post it in the thread, it will probably only mean that feelings escalate and things get worse. I have to step away now for a while again, and I'd really like to come back to find a thread where everyone is trying their best to understand that we are all playing a game together, and no-one is trying to be personal. We are all a family here lets do our very best to keep the game as friendly as we can

PS this is aimed at no specific people in particular. I'd appreciate it if everyone can aid the good feelings in whatever way they can.

Shut up Golden, don't tell me what to do YOUR NOT THE BOSSS OF ME BLAH

*Stomps up the stairs, slams the door in Golden's bug ole meanie face*

no golden stay away from me with that mod kill hammer NOOOOOOOOOO!

Yeah I agree with Gman here 41 pages +1600 posts for only night 1 is alot. Can we slow them down a bit? And no I'm not trying to silent anyone or stop discussions, but when about half the players have under 50 posts then I think the higher posters need to cool down a bit. I think this actually helps the mafia members more.

a2thezebra wrote:You two know that no one is reading any of your back-and-forth at this point right?

This tbh. I've honestly got no clue what is going on and still think they could be teammates doing this to distract us.

scum and mafia are the same term.

a2thezebra wrote:This is getting reeeeeeally dumb.

juliets wrote:So if all cylons are bad we are sitting here with 12 mafia, 16 civs, and 1 secret role. Does that seem reasonable?

Do we know if all the final five are cylons? Maybe just those are five players who could be cylons and aren't at this time. Like they can be recruited or something.
Also with everyone having a secret power it might not be unbalanced.

linki: Morning Golden.

Okay so do we think the ship takes up one or more square?

If it takes up more we should approach this in a battleship type way if it is just one I think fully randomized will be the best.

I'm not trying to discredit everything or anything I simply don't think we're going about this in the best way.

Also yes I've played two scum games with you. Your early behavior with Rico looked like you and MP.

I don't want Ika in control of every sortie if he tries to be I want to lynch him. I don't trust anyone enough to let them have that much say.

Long Con wrote:Well, indi, I was the only one posting at the appointed minute. It seems as though that should be the MOST important thing, because although the mission times can slip, lynch times may not. If I or anyone else is present at the appointed minute, then that person should just give the next planned coordinates. It doesn't matter WHO gives them, as much as making sure they are on as tight a schedule as possible.

Linki: ika nailed it exactly. It's not about being polite, it's about being prompt.

Ika seems to think he is going to do it whether the person is present and do whatever he wants though, which is different from what indi is saying.

I do agree with Scotty I don't like this strategy. What if Indi is a cylon and is only getting mad since she knows what spot the ship is on and is trying to protect it? I doubt this is the case though.

See this is what I mean by people doing whatever they want.

Question are civs more likely to forget so say so say we all then mafia members? Or is is NAI (Non Alignment Indicator)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why is Obscure talking about whipping our members out?
Maybe she's also up for tying Epignosis up and giving him a good ol' interrogation.

Kinky. :P

Ricochet wrote:
sig wrote:Also @LC I don't see how I'm a cylon for not wanting to just send out the only two civ pilots to die without any thought. Which is what it seemed like was happening at first.
Errrrr??? Starbuck, Leo Adama are also pilots.

Only two civ pilots Kat and Hot Dog can go after the ship according to Golden's post no? So if they die then we have no way to go after the ship

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sig.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:So do we think Epi is mafia or what?
What do you think? Do you think we need to lynch Cylons?

Sorry didn't see this.

Yes I think we need to lynch all the Cylons.

However, that doesn't mean we should waste a phase trying to lynch Epi if we don't blow up the ship.

Also @LC I don't see how I'm a cylon for not wanting to just send out the only two civ pilots to die without any thought. Which is what it seemed like was happening at first.

thing*

That is a cylonish think to do LC.

We guess in a random yet controlled way. What else would random controlled guessing be. So we use logic, but we also won't have an obvious pattern.

I could agree with LC, but I still think he is mafia. (cylon)
@LC why don't you want to call the cylons mafia?

linki: Ah okay Indiglo I missed that part.

Like Ika shouldn't call anymore missions in case he is a cylon trying to get us away from the ship, also who came up with the current idea of even numbers? If that is what is being done.

I think it would be better to have a controlled random guessing. So we think about it, but not every even/odd. We should keep that in mind for the next time something like this comes up.

@Rico, but at first it seemed like you were. Which was my point, at least that what Ika seemed to be doing.

Okay so I was thinking about it, it does look like all the cyclons are mafia if they're all mafia members that would be a team of eight plus a member of the final five thing so nine mafia members.

However, I'm not sure about lynching Epi right away would we even be able to make him flip? Right now I'm viewing him as an agent of chaos who we should ignore.
Yes this is a change from my previous views, but I don't think the shows lore would play into the game that much.

linki: Damn you're right, I'm in the middle of writing something for school so all my writing skills (lol me writing skills

) are focused on that. But since I did the know/now thing I must be civ. Riighhhht.

So do you think not all cylons = mafia? I can't remember if we ever reached a verdict on that.

Long Con wrote:So say we all!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
sig wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Actually JJJ-I can tell you I don't like MM's vote on Epi for joke reasons in a game he should know the votes are not changeable.
If Epignosis is a cylon then I would be willing to entertain MM as a team mate. That's something for later though.

Maybe you're a teammate of Epi setting up MM to be lynched tomorrow.

Go ahead and accuse me of that if Epi flips as a cylon. I don't care right now.
Thoughts on this now, sig?

Well I didn't expect Epi to flip as mafia, and he might not have? I think it is possibly, I think setting up lynches like that is something mafia members would do, but I guess we will see if JJJ goes after MM know. JJJ answer though is very odd, I'll be keeping my eye on him. I also notice he gave an excuse for why he wouldn't be super town this game, could he have done this as mafia to avoid suspicion?

Ricochet wrote:
sig wrote:So say we all!

Can we not just send off out pilots without a thought, this seems really stupid since they CAN DIE! To just start randomly doing it seems not very smart?

So do we think Epi is mafia or what?
What do you mean without a thought? What do you mean?

Y'all are posting to fast during my school day :P

It seems like at least at first you're just randomly sending pilots out. There might be traps or a certain pattern or something. We need to do this logically and not just start blurting out numbers which could get two civs killed.

So say we all!

Can we not just send off out pilots without a thought, this seems really stupid since they CAN DIE! To just start randomly doing it seems not very smart?

So do we think Epi is mafia or what?

interesting

I'm off to bed night.

I'll light a candle for you and make sure to add you to my players.

SVS do you think EPi is civ?

What does scum!(name) mean? Why the exclamation point

@Epi I think defensive tunneling is like OMGUS?

linki: He has been pinging me on a gut level, and last time I had a bad gut read off him he turned out to be mafia. I know it isn't much, but I don't like any of the wagons, but I'm also not reading any of the people on them high enough to vote and save them either, and I don't really have any solid reads right now.
So I think going the gut avenue is the best.

oooo I just got so confused by what I read, thanks for clearing it up Golden.

Trains?

Okay so I'm voting for LC.

Vote Long Con

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, I am back in San Antonio, but I still have not had time to read a single thing. And I want to spend the evening with my husband instead of reading a thousand posts. What is wrong with you people?! I randomized my vote between all those who already had votes and it came up Matt. Love you Matty, but I'm tossing my vote your way. Random.org has spoken!

Matt

I promise to start getting up to speed and play properly beginning tomorrow.

Daisy the vote has to be in dead red for it to count.

Silverwolf wrote:
sig wrote:@Silver if you ever have anymore kids or like a dog nah actually get a cat, cats are better. Name it Sigurd best name on the planet.
I have 3 cats already and 2 dogs and am adopting a 3rd. Sorry, but Sigurd isn't on the list of names for the new dog.

Vote Silver.

:P

@Silver if you ever have anymore kids or like a dog nah actually get a cat, cats are better. Name it Sigurd best name on the planet.

linki: Nevermind then IWAY. I hope we can play another game sometime soon.

linki2: Yeah he might, however this is all null in my mind since I don't think Epi is mafia.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Actually JJJ-I can tell you I don't like MM's vote on Epi for joke reasons in a game he should know the votes are not changeable.
If Epignosis is a cylon then I would be willing to entertain MM as a team mate. That's something for later though.

Maybe you're a teammate of Epi setting up MM to be lynched tomorrow.

IWAY I see you, what do you think about the game right now?

indiglo wrote:
sig wrote:It seems like your point is we should listen to SW/Ika on Epi since other newer members have been right about their alignment right?

I'd rather we not lynch Epi today, it would be better to lynch someone else imo. However, I won't actively fight agaisnt an Epi lynch.

Why would you prefer to lynch someone else today?

Also, any other good candidates?

Linki~

I don't think Epi is mafia and yes it is just day 1, but I'd rather not lynch Epi on day 1 when one of the three votes on him is a total joke vote (MM's) I'm considering a few people. I've got a slight ping of LC and DF so could vote there. I really disliked Zebra's BR vote, I might also look back over the RIco thing and see what I see.

If we don't see content from Glorfindel and IWAY soon I'd like to put some pressure on them and maybe lynch them to.

ika wrote:
sig wrote:It seems like your point is we should listen to SW/Ika on Epi since other newer members have been right about their alignment right?

I'd rather we not lynch Epi today, it would be better to lynch someone else imo. However, I won't actively fight agaisnt an Epi lynch.
Techacly your defending it right now....

Defending Epi which I'm really not doing isn't the same as fighting agaisnt the lynch imo.

It seems like your point is we should listen to SW/Ika on Epi since other newer members have been right about their alignment right?

I'd rather we not lynch Epi today, it would be better to lynch someone else imo. However, I won't actively fight agaisnt an Epi lynch.

Wait a minute I'm a TS regular and constantlysometimes read both Epi and LC right.

Just like Turf Wars were I knew Epi was bad (lets not discus anything else I did that game unless I'm using it to defend myself) :P
And I was right about LC like three times when he was mafia so far.

I don't like that post from you JJJ I don't like it at all.

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