The Syndicate

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:33 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.

And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.

My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder

My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.

1. Lucy reads aren’t 100% locked so I’m not going to trust fall into her read.

2. You’ve claimed Vig, but Neon very clearly stated why you weren’t in her mind. Also the kill didn’t go through.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:17 pm Wow I'm getting bullied by the thread. BTW I'm voting myself out.
I want nothing to do with this game.

You aren’t being bullied, just because people aren’t trusting you doesn’t mean they’re bullying you.

And how much is is theatrics are you really done or just saying that

I hardly expected you to trust Lucy, as she claimed 3p.
As for why my kill didn't go through, it could be for a number of reasons rather than just thinking I'm lying about being a vig.
You say I'm not being bullied, and then accuse me of theatrics in the same post. Sounds like you condone the bullying too and just gaslit me.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:50 pm Let’s make this a four way and see what happens

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

You certainly know how to make things interesting. I'll give you that.

Self voting is a bit theatrical though

I think ties give more info than anything else for example Kate broke that tie very quickly

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:51 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:40 pm @RondoDimBuckle i know you just subbed in, so I’ll give you a day but I am scum leaning on the slot.

I’m hoping for a few things when you’re caught up

3 town reads
2 mafia read

Thoughts on

Lucy/scrappy
Neon/CR/Kates fight
Thoughts on the Jack vs Sean wagon we saw last phase
Why do you think Pyxxy was killed (I’m still doing an NKA here but jd like a secondary set of eyes)

Not that you asked but...rox seemed very civ once she came in and the fight ensued. I was meh on her before that with the long itemized posts. So rondo is starting off good with me.

I’d agree the fight was a good look and ringed more of Civ roxy. The slot is in that slight POE area I’d not vote them off today but I’m eyeing them

Let’s make this a four way and see what happens

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

@RondoDimBuckle i know you just subbed in, so I’ll give you a day but I am scum leaning on the slot.

I’m hoping for a few things when you’re caught up

3 town reads
2 mafia read

Thoughts on

Lucy/scrappy
Neon/CR/Kates fight
Thoughts on the Jack vs Sean wagon we saw last phase
Why do you think Pyxxy was killed (I’m still doing an NKA here but jd like a secondary set of eyes)

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:14 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:04 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:05 am Roxy/CR/creature/jdizz/neon town

can people give me their top 3 tr’s who aren’t in this list

Hk/kate/sig

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:29 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:19 pm I like sigs posts. I don't necessarily agree with the plan but I can understand it

Creature as well but on a lesser degree

The pocketing attempt is appreciated but denied. Please reapply for a pocketing attempt in 2-3 business days.

@Kate I don’t think Dennis knows how to read



On a serious note, for Dennis I’m iffy on him. I don’t think this is a pocket anymore, but his approach is just odd. I’m not getting the same sense I got from him last game when he was town or how I felt when he was mafia Ik Cartoon. I may have a bit of paranoia here since he definitely fooled me in Cartoon though.

For now I’d keep Dennis one step above the POE and that’s only since other people are clearing him.

Granted the biggest issue with the Kate soul clear is if they’re both mafia they could hard clear each other, but that’s a very tin foil theory at the moment.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.

And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.

My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder

My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.

1. Lucy reads aren’t 100% locked so I’m not going to trust fall into her read.

2. You’ve claimed Vig, but Neon very clearly stated why you weren’t in her mind. Also the kill didn’t go through.

CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:17 pm Wow I'm getting bullied by the thread. BTW I'm voting myself out.
I want nothing to do with this game.

You aren’t being bullied, just because people aren’t trusting you doesn’t mean they’re bullying you.

And how much is is theatrics are you really done or just saying that

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:35 pm i believe that all mafia are in

Kate
Chihiro
Jackofhearts2005
Creature
DrWilgy
CRichard
falcon45ca
dunya

in a less precise world this is what my poe of 6 is, i think there's like 3-4 mafia here

Jackofhearts2005
Creature
DrWilgy
CRichard
falcon45ca
dunya

I like this POE.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:18 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:02 pm @Kate what's your stance? let me townside or waste 2 lynches on me?

I'm thinking about it. I'm inclined to yeet ya though and I trust the people voting you.

I don’t believe if we vote off Lucy, scrappy would remain in the game.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:25 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:27 am I wanna point out if yall are both town, it is extremely scummy letting yourselves hit post cap.

Agreed.

Ageeed but I don’t think they’re both town

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:00 am

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:00 am

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:48 am

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:44 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:40 am okay i'm bored, i'm scrappy doo

Yup thought so and that’s why I cooled off on my third party vote/hunting . Buuuuut I’m a bit salty your sock voted for me

Also are you really third party and if so what are the win cons.

if i predict 3 deaths i win

this is important because i can lead town into wolf chops and my solving helps town and my win con

Do you stay in the game or get removed if you win

removed

Okay perfect.

Based off this I’m willing to leave Lucy/scrappy alone for the time being.

This is the same reason i pulled back from the vote last phase I figured out who it was and made the call based off 2 things

1. Lucy is likely to town side if she says she would

2. I could’ve outted her if scrappy wasn’t town siding, we would vote her off, and I assume that would remove scrappy. Now I wasn’t going to say it was her since I didn’t want to give mafia a potential soap, but if she self claimed it’s whatever.

Her being removed from the game means we won’t need to worry about mafia helping her to win then she sides with them at end game to preserve her victory. If she’s lying about it we should be able to tell.

Now what are the potential downsides?

She has reasons to push bad votes if she chooses to.

She could attempt to extend the game if town performs really well.


I think those are important things to keep in mind and view some of her reads with a grain of salt, but right now I say mafia hunting is more important and we definitely have the information to catch at least 1 in thread. Plus so far she’s been pro town and hunting so as long as that remains I’m cool.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:48 am

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:44 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:40 am okay i'm bored, i'm scrappy doo

Yup thought so and that’s why I cooled off on my third party vote/hunting . Buuuuut I’m a bit salty your sock voted for me

Also are you really third party and if so what are the win cons.

if i predict 3 deaths i win

this is important because i can lead town into wolf chops and my solving helps town and my win con

Do you stay in the game or get removed if you win

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:40 am okay i'm bored, i'm scrappy doo

Yup thought so and that’s why I cooled off on my third party vote/hunting . Buuuuut I’m a bit salty your sock voted for me

Also are you really third party and if so what are the win cons.

@CRichard wanna answer my post?


Also why are you assuming mafia has a miller style role seems a bit TMIish


And wanna give out some other reads besides Neon/Jack please

sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:58 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:33 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:00 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:49 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:45 pm

this post is in poor taste

Gn

It's no where near as bad taste as trying to get me killed over the CW to a flipped townie EoD1.
If you want to lecture me on that, this is not the time to do so.

I can not express this enough.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO FLIP THE CW IN A ROLE MADNESS THIS IS NOT MOUNTAINOUS SO TRY READING THE SLOT AND NOT PUSHING UNNECESSARY "OPTIMAL" PLAYS

What is the difference between role madness and mountainous? Like why would it be optimal in mountainous but not role madness?

Everyone has a power in role madness

Literally nobody has a power in mountainous

In mountainous you only get info through flips.

In role madness any investigative worth their salt was on jack last night.

And it never crossed your mind that we might have framer/tailor, who would logically go on the CW to a flipped townie when town investigatives are expected to go there?
If you're town and you posted something this asinine, I'll be extremely disappointed in you.

This doesn’t make any sense.

Don’t you think Jack is making?

This role wouldn’t affect investigations especially the type Neon is talking about

Mafia not making. Rip phone autocorrect.

I’m not wasting a post on just that though soooo here it goes.

I’m becoming more and more unsure on Wilgy, he’d be one to watch but still solidly Null to maybe a very light scum read.

I originally really liked Dennis view on Chirhiro, but Neon recent post along with my own theory that mafia inserted themselves or is a combatant in the argument would apply to him.

Overall Chirhiro has been playing a townie game though so I’ll take them at face value for their posts. I might reread the fight later and see what I see, but it was pretty toxic so I also might not.

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:33 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:00 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:49 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:45 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:47 pm Neon always dies 1st if Jack flips mafia.
Actually, flip them next also if Jack flips town. That's TMI in the world Jack is town.

this post is in poor taste

Gn

It's no where near as bad taste as trying to get me killed over the CW to a flipped townie EoD1.
If you want to lecture me on that, this is not the time to do so.

I can not express this enough.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO FLIP THE CW IN A ROLE MADNESS THIS IS NOT MOUNTAINOUS SO TRY READING THE SLOT AND NOT PUSHING UNNECESSARY "OPTIMAL" PLAYS

What is the difference between role madness and mountainous? Like why would it be optimal in mountainous but not role madness?

Everyone has a power in role madness

Literally nobody has a power in mountainous

In mountainous you only get info through flips.

In role madness any investigative worth their salt was on jack last night.

And it never crossed your mind that we might have framer/tailor, who would logically go on the CW to a flipped townie when town investigatives are expected to go there?
If you're town and you posted something this asinine, I'll be extremely disappointed in you.

This doesn’t make any sense.

Don’t you think Jack is making?

This role wouldn’t affect investigations especially the type Neon is talking about

I agree, I’m not quite sure about this post.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:41 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:39 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:38 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:33 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:04 pm Seanzie's flip as town is disappointing. Unless anyone has an objection, Jack's flip will give us the most info on what the mafia were doing at EoD1.

Seanzies flip town was the most obvious flip coming in any game ever and you all killing them was bad.

But it's okay cause you're still a wolf.

Even if you believe I'm a wolf, you never kill me over Jack.

This is not everyone's belief or assumption.

[VOTE: CRichard] aubergine

it's the correct belief, same as islam being the only real religion

I’ve watched South Park we all know Mormonism is the right answer. Unless we’re in the Good place verse then oof let’s hope it’s post show and not pre show. On the other hand if it’s Supernatural I think I could handle standing in a line forever.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:23 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:20 pm oh wait i keep saying seanzie, but i mean pxxy.

i apparently stupid.

I should have kept reading

Lol love this, but also wow dude I’m pretty sure you’ve posted more this game than last game so I kinda wanna vote you off just for that.



Im planning to do a NKA of Pyxxy tomorrow I think he was an odd kill choice so I’m curious to see if there’s anything big in his ISO. The obvious answer is Jack, but that’s very on the nose so like I said I’ll do a review of him likely tomorrow

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:14 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:32 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:23 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:12 pm jack should always flip here and i think he might've tmi'ed sig town as creature or someone implied and had my general worldview be incorrect, either way i'm gonna do more town leadery stuff this cycle

i'm gonna reread d1 tonight

@CRichard what's your read on me/creature/dunya

You town
Creature town
Dunya town.

Could you elaborate on dunya

I would imagine a world where lucy, dunya, and creature are all town is a world where one of them dies last night.

Which one do you think is mostly likely bad in that case?

can everyone answer this, thanks

Dunya, Lucy and creature

All three are within town metrics for me right now dunya being the least since she’s the hardest to read as mafia and hasn’t posted much

Creature strong town I’ll get paranoid about halfway through the game and maybe tinfoil him buuuuut until then he’s a town.

Lucy is a pretty solidly town read

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:28 pm
also jdizz locktown since he'd get wolves to chop me n1

Few things here

1. Just a general why?
2. I don’t think Jdizz had the town power/presence to vote off anyone
3. I assume you’d say since he’s from your home site/discord site, but even then we have people familiar with your style so a meta read wouldn’t fly.

Granted I don’t think Jdizz is mafia they’re a town lean for me right now, but I’m not seeing locktown from them

And Omega why are you voting for Creature

This thread is such a cluster right now that if someone who’s arguing isn’t mafia I’d be shocked AND if they aren’t then someone prodding the ppl arguing is for sure.

I don’t agree with CR at all he isn’t being pro town with his posting and while I don’t believe his claim, claiming during a game that has a soup confirmed by host isn’t smart.

If we do believe his claim then I’d like some answers from @Jackofhearts2005 but not a claim if we can avoid it.

@DaughterOfOmega why are you confirmed?

@lucy

1. How confident in the CR read are you
2. How confident in his claim are you
3. Do you think he’s right about anything or just townie.


I’m trying to conserve posts today since I almost ran out last phase so expect longer posts and less fluff. I’m also eyeing anyone that’s burning through their posts on useless stuff.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:47 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:46 pm @Dennis
We need you on Seanzie, please and thank you.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:46 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:44 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:09 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:29 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:06 am So yes Omega is town in my book. Sorry mafia, mislunching Omega suddenly became a lot harder.
Your move.

This post just bothers me. It comes off as TMI because nobody is even pushing me for death. If I had like 6 votes and you were actually worried wolves were trying to mislynch that’d make sense, but that never happened.

Idk it comes off as a white knight mafia

Ding ding ding, you win the prize for worst reason to accuse someone as mafia. TMI despite no flips on D1.
When do people learn TMI accusations on D! hold no water?

TMI accusations are okay because mafia knows alignments so when you said that it came off as if you are only saying that so if omega flipped town you can be like "whoops I was right told you so"

Vote Neon plz.

This is uncomfy

GTH what are they and which would you rather see voted off

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:43 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:39 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:36 pm I’m liking a lot of the jack content right now.

I think the TMI discussion is lingo clashing

I’m willing to give Roxy and Dennis another phase based off meta. They’re both hard reads.

I think Sean trying to blame in action as the only reason he’s getting votes is disingenuous that’s definitely not why I’m voting for him

Also about to hit my cap so don’t expect many responses back

This is mafia.

You’ve literally given zero reasoning behind me being mafia besides saying it’s mafia and the entire premise is based off a very clearly wrong take that there wa s a slip,

I just can’t not mafia read someone who finds a very very LHF argument and then Tunnels it all phase

Haven't had time, you're the one going after very lhf (me) by exploiting my current location.

Nah this is a weak defense and you aren’t a low hanging fruit for being busy.

You’re maybe a busy or disengaged mafia, but you’re being very disengenous by trying to use that as an excuse.

The reasoning for why you mafia read me makes zero sense and you haven’t since D0 tried to engage me on it besides just saying I’m mafia. That alone is scummy. Plus the tone has nothing to do with volume

If you were a busy town you’d not be tunneling you’d have found someone to sheep imo. Plus you only really started pushing me after someone said you were playing within mafia meta.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:39 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:36 pm I’m liking a lot of the jack content right now.

I think the TMI discussion is lingo clashing

I’m willing to give Roxy and Dennis another phase based off meta. They’re both hard reads.

I think Sean trying to blame in action as the only reason he’s getting votes is disingenuous that’s definitely not why I’m voting for him

Also about to hit my cap so don’t expect many responses back

This is mafia.

You’ve literally given zero reasoning behind me being mafia besides saying it’s mafia and the entire premise is based off a very clearly wrong take that there wa s a slip,

I just can’t not mafia read someone who finds a very very LHF argument and then Tunnels it all phase

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:37 pm Alright I am getting a bit cold feet about lynching Seanzie. Perhaps because his reaction feels a bit different than GOC where he was wolf.

Please pay attention to the poll because we might still shuffle our votes around. I can do sig or Jack or maybe Dennis or Roxy if they are brought up again (or Scrappy ). I don't want Neon lynched.

Also Seanzie, I would like to know where do you feel the strongest about.

It’s different, but still not how his normal town play would be, which is why I’m fine with his wagon. It also came together organically later in the day which is positive in my mind given how little content we had for the second half of the phase.

Thoughts on Kate’s thoughts on Roxy? That’s the major hang up I’ve got with moving that way right now.


6 posts left

I 100% don’t want Neon to be the alt wagon today if we need two I’d say between Jack and Sean are better.

The one big ping for Jack is his Lucy read on me. If he has TMI it’s a good place to soft around a bit.

7 total posts left for me after this

I’m liking a lot of the jack content right now.

I think the TMI discussion is lingo clashing

I’m willing to give Roxy and Dennis another phase based off meta. They’re both hard reads.

I think Sean trying to blame in action as the only reason he’s getting votes is disingenuous that’s definitely not why I’m voting for him

Also about to hit my cap so don’t expect many responses back

I’m here also about to hit cap (10 more posts)

I’m worried about the lack of movement, granted it’s a slow game and a mafia team of what 3-5 likely so they can’t do much, but I’d expect something if we had mafia in one of the 2 lead wagons. Alternatively they’re just among the inactive players which means it’ll be a crap shoot.

Outside of Neon hitting her cap so early she’s still a town read for me. Again this is mainly based off gut/tone. I’m hoping to see more reads from her soon though.


from a tin foil perspective I could totally see mafia Wilgy saying in thread he wanted to save a teammate. I’d like some other thoughts on that though. The issue here for Wilgy is that this is a classic thing he does and half the time it’s a civ Wilgy doing it and he gets misvoted.


Sean I’m still pretty confident is mafia he hasn’t done much and just threw a vote on me then proceeded to slank. The playstyle is just so similar to GoC in my mind. But, I trust the people town reading him.

Creature, Lucy, Pyxxy, dunya, Falcon, annd chirhiro are all people I’d definitely not vote for today.

Wilgy, Dennis and kate are big question marks

I still think Roxy is viable she’s playing very structured and mechanical (in terms of posting style) it seems like she’s trying to find reasons to scum read vs finding scum.

Also she’s not being as aggressive and like screw you I know I’m town as she usually is.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:42 am

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:33 am

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:04 am @sig why do you tr me

Well I don’t think your mafia based off your general reaction to me. Calling me anti town, bringing up a past game, and then voting me while admitting I was town doesn’t seem like something you’d do as mafia. Granted I’ve not played with you as mafia, but it seems more towny.

Plus you’ve got almost the same tone as GoC and I correctly clocked you as town there pretty early.


Now if you did/do try to get me voted off for past games or if you start playing in an anti town manner I’d change my opinion but so far I’m fairly confident in my view and just like GoC if I think your cases are sound or you have info I’d follow, but I’m not gonna just blindly do what you say without that.


What do you think of Roxy and Sean?

at this point in day 1 do you agree it'd have been horrible to vote sit scrappy?

I wanna say no to be an asshole, but yes you were right

I do think it was worth entertaining, but given what’s happened today we’ve got a pretty solid chance of hitting mafia.

I know Wilgy says he’s slanking and he has a history of being misvoted, but the longer he leaves his vote on me without any reasoning the more I want to vote him back.

That might be a OMGUS move though.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:04 am @sig why do you tr me

Well I don’t think your mafia based off your general reaction to me. Calling me anti town, bringing up a past game, and then voting me while admitting I was town doesn’t seem like something you’d do as mafia. Granted I’ve not played with you as mafia, but it seems more towny.

Plus you’ve got almost the same tone as GoC and I correctly clocked you as town there pretty early.


Now if you did/do try to get me voted off for past games or if you start playing in an anti town manner I’d change my opinion but so far I’m fairly confident in my view and just like GoC if I think your cases are sound or you have info I’d follow, but I’m not gonna just blindly do what you say without that.


What do you think of Roxy and Sean?

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:31 am If Sig outs who the puppet master behind Scrappy is, then Sig/Puppet master of Scrappy is never w/w. You don't obsessively hunt for the owner of a puppet account if your scum buddy is piloting the account. No way.

Nah I don’t obsessively hunt for them it just clicked.

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:19 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:57 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:39 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:23 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:21 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:30 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:35 pm Mechanically speaking Third Parties possible should always mean that their existance is confirmed, otherwise, this game is bastard. Telling us its possible they exist but then not having any to me is false information. Where I come from games don't include this unless 3rd party exist, they don't say they may or may not exist.

that isn't the cold hard rule in TS fyi.



i read the chihiro debacle with pyxxy with role pm lingo, which i specifically ban from happening from my games for the purpose of how gross it is and icky and stuff, and have a town lean on chihiro and pyxxy out of it for different reasons.

well yeah cause its gross, which why i specifically got pissed at pyxxy for reading into it.

Also I don't think I am that over the place with the scrappy slot, I think anyone thats hard focused on it over scum hunting is probablly mafia themself.

This sentence makes me wolfread you though.

Literally why? Again I don't understand this sites meta when comes to 3rd parties. Like if the sites meta is losing to 3rd parties thats not the fault of the 3rd party existing, thats the fault of town.

Yea town ignoring third parties.

Having said I’m like 99% sure I know who’s behind the sock so I’m good moving off them for now. IF, I think easier are wolf siding I’ll out the main then vote them off win win.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:30 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:07 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:03 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:56 am Also, Sig is outed.

Why is sig outed? I see sig being pushed literally every game he is in, like in Cartomancy. Do you all actually wolfread him or is it "hmmm sig is playing antitown must be wolf" like lucy is doing?

Sig didn't know that the scooby doo villians were town.

I’m semi here about to go into a meeting then I’ll catch up.

This is wrong?

u coming back into the thread after being gone for a bith to immediatly comment on this post pings me, unless you skip back reading to check mentions of you??

Yup I always try to respond to notifications/search my name first, then I read the most recent posts, then I go back and do a catch up. I’m used to being chronically behind in high volume games so for me it makes the most sense to address anything I’m engaging on vs going through pages or random stuff. Granted this game is pretty low key so that won’t be an issue here, but that’s standard NAI practice for me

Can you please give specific reason for how you think you know the sock? You don’t have to out them but how do you think you know who it is?

A few key words and how pissed they got at me were the main two.

Now see I’m still a bit torn I don’t want to start trying to hunt the main account in case I’m wrong and I don’t want to link them together to give mafia a soup (assuming they do town side)

I’d still be 100% down to vote off the sock account if we don’t have any good wagons and see what/how they flip, but since that isn’t getting traction + some pretty big mafia pings from Sean I’m fine letting it lie for the time being.


I still don’t love the slot, I don’t like that they’re voting without giving any reasoning, and I don’t like that they’re not helping to hunt which they said they would.

I think they’re a prime candidate for a flash wagon if we get iffy in the 11th hour, but otherwise I won’t be clogging the thread about it.

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:08 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:43 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:42 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:27 pm You guys just be glad you don’t know scrappy doo. I would happily erase him from my memory lol

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:23 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:10 pm woof woof

Oh god scrappy doo is the worst. Perhaps one of the most justifiably hated characters of all time

Splints is my ride or die this game idc how she flips, whay she does, who she kills.

She could claim mafia while being red checked and saying she was gonna lead a misvote on me and my hatred for scrappy will still burn brighter than all those things.


On a serious note, I 100% bet Scrabby is a third party role I’m thinking in like with the character from Rico’s Courage game awhile back. Basically a player posts as both themselves and scrabby.

Or if we wanna include movie verse then scrappy is a mafia member since in the first movie he was the main villain

Sig is mafia, gg.

Here.

This is very weak reasoning. And it’s actually so bad I’m now eyeing you for trying to start a new wagon

Imma go out on a limb here and say one of the wagons have a mafia member and Sean is covering but I need to look into it more before I fully commit

I don’t understand why pointing out that one of the Wagons “probably” had a mafia in needed to be pointed out. Seems kinda obvious that every wagon could “probably” have an mafia. Also saying “weak reasoning” while not giving an explanation why it’s weak or so bad is interesting as well…

I see what you’re saying for sure, but by probably I mean high chance usually unless we’ve got a check or spew it’s a crapshoot.

I don’t really see how I can explain it being weak beyond the fact that it was weak.

It wasn’t a slip to try and say it’s a slip doesn’t make sense In both a general sense and also from a mechanical sense. It was just a weak reason for throw a vote and then proceed to slank for the rest of the phase

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:14 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:13 pm For context, a townie got mislunched offsite over a "slip".
If the only reason for sig being mafia is a slip, that isn't something I'm convinced by.

They also didn't vote me when I did slip so I mean lol

And is they me

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:04 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:51 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:38 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:40 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:20 pm

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

Because Seanzie is in Seanzie town meta

Because you posted the wolfiest post I've read this game

I don’t see what you think was wolfy about either post I also don’t see how Sean is within his town meta.

That's cool. I do though so...

I mean if you won’t give any reasoning imma ignore it since you literally pulled a 180

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:51 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:38 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:40 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:20 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 pm Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

Because Seanzie is in Seanzie town meta

Because you posted the wolfiest post I've read this game

I don’t see what you think was wolfy about either post I also don’t see how Sean is within his town meta.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:52 pm yeeting a wolf day one statistically helps wolves so we should yeet anyone trying to yeet a wolf atp

This is some big brained 4D chess (though TS does seem to have a trend where if we lynch mafia day 1 we always loose to them lol)

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:38 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:40 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:20 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:17 pm Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:47 pm I've looked at a couple pages.

I think neon, chad, dennis were alright

seanzie and kate were sketchy

Who is Chad?

Why on Kate

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:50 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:12 pm

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:06 pm General question, Someone(maybe Lucy, idr) mentioned that scrappy is using ChatGPT. I'm not super familiar with chatgpt and never would have known that myself. Do we think that scrappy chose to use ChatGPT themselves, or do we think that the host advised this? Has this happened in previous games?

Scrappy is likely being duel hatted the host is running any randomized comments while the player is posting the real stuff. This is usually done with socky accounts so players can’t pin down who’s behind it if they’re also in the game.

Like so and so is posting at the same time Scrappy is so they must be them

Im sorry but if the host is the one posting through scrappy thats bastard, i will not hear any arguements saying otherwise.

I’m not sure they are I’ve just seen it done a few times In the past here

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:05 pm Also I know I just said Wilgy slanking is NAI, but him slankingly casting a vote with no reasoning isn’t a good look.

Typically when town Wilgy slanks he at least does some stuff.

But I am doing stuff, and I think I've expressed this before. I'm sheeping people!

Now, finding out who to sheep is the fun part. Wouldn't want to accidentally follow a wolf now, would I?

Sheep me instead and we can actually vote off a mafia member:p

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Okay, that makes sense.

I don’t really think either of you slipped for a few reason chiefly since it seems like 99% of the time “slips” aren’t real and just paranoid townies voting off other townies.

I’m tempted to say based off both your reactions it was t/t, but I’d like to see more from Pyxxy regarding my thoughts on the slip before going that far

I promised to drop it and I've dropped it, so I won't be responding directly to you. Sorry.. I'm lightening on Chihiro. I await a response to my latest q before possibly unvoting.

I don’t like this post at all especially since you threw shade my way for not talking about it.

Good. You shouldn't like this post.

Is this a sarcastic response or an honest one? I can’t tell.

Both. I wrote the og post knowing what it looked like. I care more about honoring the agreement to drop it. I'd like to drop it. You may sr me for it and for the previous response and this response as well, and I would not take offense to you doing so.

Well this is actually a super towny response or a very very well crafted experienced mafia response. Either way I’m cool with dropping it I think there’s a lot meatier content to discuss anyway

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:15 pm Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Okay, that makes sense.

I don’t really think either of you slipped for a few reason chiefly since it seems like 99% of the time “slips” aren’t real and just paranoid townies voting off other townies.

I’m tempted to say based off both your reactions it was t/t, but I’d like to see more from Pyxxy regarding my thoughts on the slip before going that far

I promised to drop it and I've dropped it, so I won't be responding directly to you. Sorry.. I'm lightening on Chihiro. I await a response to my latest q before possibly unvoting.

I don’t like this post at all especially since you threw shade my way for not talking about it.

Good. You shouldn't like this post.

Is this a sarcastic response or an honest one? I can’t tell.

I just did a quick ISO skim of Sean and I’m much more committed to my vote now.

He has fluff, some light posts about scrappy but nothing else, and the “slip” which he’s decided to tunnel. Imo this is classic mafia behavior you find one thing to grab onto and just tunnel to avoid attention.


That paired with his lack of hunting and general posts all point to him being mafia and out of all the wagons that’s the one I prefer.

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:06 pm General question, Someone(maybe Lucy, idr) mentioned that scrappy is using ChatGPT. I'm not super familiar with chatgpt and never would have known that myself. Do we think that scrappy chose to use ChatGPT themselves, or do we think that the host advised this? Has this happened in previous games?

Scrappy is likely being duel hatted the host is running any randomized comments while the player is posting the real stuff. This is usually done with socky accounts so players can’t pin down who’s behind it if they’re also in the game.

Like so and so is posting at the same time Scrappy is so they must be them

Also I know I just said Wilgy slanking is NAI, but him slankingly casting a vote with no reasoning isn’t a good look.

Typically when town Wilgy slanks he at least does some stuff.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:00 pm

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:18 pm also @Jackofhearts2005 im very unhappy you didn’t say hello to me

Also also I’m pretty sure you lead a misvote on me last game or vigged me so like IOU one death

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:27 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:30 pm If we let a wagon stagnate, espically one that isn't going to flip mafia essentially we let mafia just slide by for the day. So pressure should be applied to others during the day.

This is repeating N argument that others have said before them. This to me is mafia’s way of trying to seem town but actually adding very little to the conversation.

@lucy @Jackofhearts2005 thoughts on this logic and thoughts on chihiro and/or pyxxy as potential mafia?

I don't think Pyxxy is mafia. I'll get back to you on Chihiro.

Also....why are you pinging me specifically for this? We haven't played together before, have we?

We have not played together before, no. I just liked your take about pyxxy not realizing that the locations and our roles align. You called pyxxy weird, and I wanted to know how far your thoughts on him went. This is doubting my town read on you if i'm being perfectly honest. I agree with whoever mentioned that role PMs and win cons and things are a terrible kinda scummy way to play, but in this case it works and if they really didn't know that it seems pretty plausible that he is mafia. Now may I please ask you to explain why you don't think pyxxy is mafia?

Because I don't think a wolf comes in with like...a wrong take and then wants to start a fight about it. Everything about Pxxy's tone and mindset indicate a townie who thinks he's onto something.

Anyway, vote: Neon. I townread the two players voting there, Neon is voting Scrappy and Neon is the most sus player as of P5. Might change this later but this is a good vote for now.

What is P5?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:48 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:46 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:15 pm Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Okay, that makes sense.

I don’t really think either of you slipped for a few reason chiefly since it seems like 99% of the time “slips” aren’t real and just paranoid townies voting off other townies.

I’m tempted to say based off both your reactions it was t/t, but I’d like to see more from Pyxxy regarding my thoughts on the slip before going that far

I promised to drop it and I've dropped it, so I won't be responding directly to you. Sorry.. I'm lightening on Chihiro. I await a response to my latest q before possibly unvoting.

I don’t like this post at all especially since you threw shade my way for not talking about it.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:50 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:51 pmCreature, Neon, and dunya all seem towny so far confidence of read in that order.

Honestly surprised you are townreading me. What changed?

Anyway, why do you townread Neon? Kate pointed out her posts felt more empty this game.

Well I think I’ve finally got a good grasp of your meta and for this game especially I find myself agreeing with a lot of your reads minus neon.

I like that you questioned Roxy also.

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

I think they’re trying to appear like they’re hunting while Putting in minimal work so he “found a slip” and now isn’t engaging


Why am I switching off Scrappy? It’s since it isn’t going anywhere and if my hunch is right on who they are it’s whatever.

Having said that if we loose the game since the 3P scum sides I’ll be really whiny to everyone post game

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:33 pm Wilgy, sig, CR.




I'm fine w/ any of these 3 atm

Why it seems like your just pulling names out of your ass