The Syndicate

Well played mafia! If I were still alive I’m sure I would have been the lynchpin in JJJ’s demise which would have helped not at all. Sig and falcon were sneaky fo sho

Thanks for the host leetic!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:53 pm I don't really expect to be regarded as Mr. Beacon of Town here, because my grip on the game is tenuous and weak. If anyone feels a better grasp, by all means, take the wheel. I'm working with what I have in front of me.
Word

However, I can’t pinpoint any moment so far this game that has me feeling like you’re naturally coming to your conclusions with evidence- and actually, you tend to blame the lack of direction on lack of others posting. While that’s not an illegitimate reason, it’s also convenient.

Tony is right- thinking it is one thing, talking about it (which Tony started with) is a whole other thing. Performative.
As an example of my struggle: much of my methodology is driven by interaction/association. I'd love to do one of my big colorful charts, but it'd be nigh pointless right now (I couldn't dissociate enough pairs of people to make it a useful exercise). I don't really "blame" people -- folks have limited time to play a game on a forum. I get it. Hell, so do I. But the game is the game.

Do you think it is a fair criticism, though?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:01 pm oh no

my DST settings!

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:58 pm

Can’t tell if you’re Greta-ing into the void or responding to my read of you.

I just…don’t?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:53 pm I don't really expect to be regarded as Mr. Beacon of Town here, because my grip on the game is tenuous and weak. If anyone feels a better grasp, by all means, take the wheel. I'm working with what I have in front of me.

Word

However, I can’t pinpoint any moment so far this game that has me feeling like you’re naturally coming to your conclusions with evidence- and actually, you tend to blame the lack of direction on lack of others posting. While that’s not an illegitimate reason, it’s also convenient.

Tony is right- thinking it is one thing, talking about it (which Tony started with) is a whole other thing. Performative.

Town reads:
Tony
Simon
Falcon
Wilgy

Townlean:
Moto
Epi

Scumlean:
JJJ
Long con

SCUMREAD:
Princess Abbi

TALK MORE:
Lorab
Sig
Abbi sophia

JJJ is not one of my top town atm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:30 pm Tony is town. Move your votes.

I think I’ve also reached that conclusion

[VOTE: Princess Abbi] aubergine

I conversely don’t think Simon is a good vote

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?
I do

It all depends on whether or not he decides to kill me in the next 2 days tho

To clarify- kill me at night in the next 2 cycles

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 pm I'm going to be straight:

I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread itself, I am probably also tired, old, and out of practice.

You could also be Maf
Unless activity level changes do you think we ever catch W Jay this game?

I do

It all depends on whether or not he decides to kill me in the next 2 days tho

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm I don't think Tony is a good vote.

And why is this

@Abigail Sophia i saw you don’t usually respond unless spoken directly to- I have no desire to vote you today.

But I am curious how you usually approach mafia- do you tend to follow people that have conviction of other people’s guilt, or make your own personal cases against people?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:11 pm Wait, how many kids does Epi have and how many are in this game?

oh…falcon, I’m sorry, you didn’t know?

You’re his 22nd eldest child. I’m his 27th.

We are all his children

TSP pushing against voting the counter wagon to himself is a choice. Definitely something I would do as wolf to appear town, but is that something he would do?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:06 pm isn’t(?) being sated?

Is

Princess Abbi (not Sophia) is hitting some notes. Not quite as bouncy and post-county as I associate with town, but almost there.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:54 pm Ok I’m gonna say it — feels likely that Moto has BTSC as far as I can tell. Yes I’m aware that outing this information could be seen as anti-town and that anyone choosing to act on it in thread may reveal more information than is prudent to reveal. Yes I’m aware that at a level 1 reading this phrasing would be an implication that I do not have BTSC with Moto and thus would reveal percentage points of valuable information. I don’t care, I’m better than that.

I see

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:35 pm Let it be known that although I don’t think JJJ is a good D1 pick right now, I don’t exactly town read him- he’s like an Arnica gel. Could be effective, if you just believe hard enough.

Parse that, detectives.

Insert ninjakick.jpg

What is Arnica gel?

Don't make be Ask Jeeves yo

Also, JJJ is prolly town right now

Arnica is a money-sink placebo-like supplement of essential oil stuff that my mom won’t stop buying and gifting me to help control weight loss/stop cancer/brush teeth/enrich life.

I’m still not sold on JJJ being town. He will sort himself

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:32 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:36 pm Why hello syndicate land!
Also Lorab:

Missing the context, but Garfield without Garfield is gold.

One of my favorites!

I also forgot to bring you into my reads. I think you could be fooling us with your reads so far, but I’m not incredibly pinged.

Of all your kids playing this game, do any of them feel particularly bad up til now?

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:19 pm Another out of expectation (OoE) is PrincessAbbi. Those 4 posts don’t say much, and not to use the participation card but it’s not what I expect from her
This is the first game I've played where my father hasn't spoken for me (I think) so I'm not used to checking on the conversation

I….uh…sorry, I was talking about the other Abbi and until you just posted I didn’t even know there was another Abbi in this game

But you both can be princesses if you want. I’d prob just call you Princess Sophia for clarification though

How do you do? What’s your read on…say, me, or JJJ right now?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:44 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:37 pm I looked at Simon’s iso. It’s extremely lacking, filled with real zingers like ‘I can’t vote’ and ‘oh Nevermind’

HOWEVER there’s something that doesn’t give off bad ninja vibes. It’s not a try-hard effort that I would associate with someone that is trying to keep up appearances.

I’d even go so far as to town read him
The messaging of this post is confusing. Why do you need to describe him as "extremely lacking" and use sarcastic language like "real zingers" if your impression of him is a town read?

I can understand in the most basic sense "these posts may appear bad, but they're actually not", but your wording is extreme in both directions. Are the other players that haven't put on a "trying hard" face also town reads? LoRab? Sophia Abigail? Princess Abigail? Half the roster? Why is Simon town?

I’m sorry you’re confused. But like…I mean what I said?

I’m perhaps being selective as I’m looking at people as I look at them. Comparing Simon to Lorab is a bit different with content, as one as literally checked in, and one has had a full seemingly conversation. I just happen to find Simon’s 4 posts towny in his lack of effort.

Abbi is a weird case where I feel like my expectation is being sated.

I looked at Simon’s iso. It’s extremely lacking, filled with real zingers like ‘I can’t vote’ and ‘oh Nevermind’

HOWEVER there’s something that doesn’t give off bad ninja vibes. It’s not a try-hard effort that I would associate with someone that is trying to keep up appearances.

I’d even go so far as to town read him

Let it be known that although I don’t think JJJ is a good D1 pick right now, I don’t exactly town read him- he’s like an Arnica gel. Could be effective, if you just believe hard enough.

Parse that, detectives.

Insert ninjakick.jpg

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:36 pm Why hello syndicate land!

Also Lorab:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:31 pm After I drive.

Did you not? I have a memory of it.
No Mafia + Drive.

I didn't speak about their relationship. I did ask falcon to provide a read on Tony. That was mostly intended for resolving "this thread is dead, so ask someone a question, any question, get posts in here immediately". You may have interpreted subtext.

I remember the days where I was hot grits, texting and mafiaing at red lights or in long, straight stretches of highway. I quit that a while ago.

Now I started watching YouTube videos or trying to find the right podcasts when driving and I’ve had some close calls. One time I drifted too close to a guy on the Golden Gate Bridge, which- if you’ve ever driven it, you know those lanes are extremely narrow. Almost sideswiped him. Needless to say, I had to yell at myself to set some guidelines. I’ll never do it again.

Being an adult is hard. Don’t play and drive, kids.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:16 pm I am concerned that, in the present state of the game thread, the bar that the mafia must clear to seem like civilians is “have a pulse”. I have no immediate solution to that problem apart from calling for more action.

Yes, and I would contend that in this state, we’re in a lose-lose scenario for ideal D1 candidates. Leaning more towards a low poster gaining info in this case.

But a middle of the road contributor (this is distinctly different than a poster by count) would be ideal as we talk more

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:59 am EH, in Wolfwalkers W Scotty was just 'in sync with me' and I see nothing immediate in likeness.
That may be a better description, yes. He wasn't exactly "schmoozy" in Ted Lasso as much as he promoted my view of the game and strategic approach (i.e., he was "in sync with me"). Perhaps it's not quite the same.

Who knows, man
Imagine a world where I’m always town.

Fixed it for you.

In other news, Wilgy’s single potshot posts are assuaging my concern. A part of me wonders if he’s just doing it to appear towny after I called attention to him, but I guess I’m feeling better.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
You see this is the issue with pressure for pressure's sake and why I only really do it when needed.

You have little means to actually tell if I was ever going to put out content without the pressure. I presume one could gauge how I responded to your pressure directly and the following work to see if it makes sense or not given the context, but there's so little of that at this point. Even more interesting is that commentary about this type of discussion is also mostly NAI as town can make the comments you made indicating concern as you put it, and wolves can voice it to leave an avenue open.

What fun

Town can be a city and wolf can be a kitten.

In the same vein, you can be a 1st year drop out instead of a doctor. I think this type of reasoning you’re putting forth- less of the zany, off the wall banter- at this point, regardless of me pressuring you, is a good look from my expectation of your town play

Nah, that’s more of a joke vote but it’s not as funny as I remember. I do want to hear from sig tho

I just looked again through TSP’s iso and it reads like a henna tattoo. I ain’t paying full price for that

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

@sig where my dog at

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:59 am EH, in Wolfwalkers W Scotty was just 'in sync with me' and I see nothing immediate in likeness.
That may be a better description, yes. He wasn't exactly "schmoozy" in Ted Lasso as much as he promoted my view of the game and strategic approach (i.e., he was "in sync with me"). Perhaps it's not quite the same.

Who knows, man

Imagine a world where I’m always town.

Fixed it for you.

In other news, Wilgy’s single potshot posts are assuaging my concern. A part of me wonders if he’s just doing it to appear towny after I called attention to him, but I guess I’m feeling better.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:55 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:04 pm Yeah, JJJ is fine.
Why?

When I imagine you winding down after a long day of juggling in the streetz, you’re doing your taxes.

Feels tax-ey

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:53 am I have developed an impression that Scotty might be schmoozier with me when he is mafia than when he is town. It may be Ted Lasso Mafia bias, or it may be meaningful. I believe it also happened in the ancient times (Easter Mafia).

He opened by being schmoozy with me.

Can you remember in the before times where I was schmoozy with you as town?

Legitimate question, cause I don’t remember

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:24 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:08 am ok

So someone tell me why Wilgy is town
nerd, tell me why half the cast here is town

I tend to view from the glass half empty lens.

I think you seem scummy. harder for me to equate that with thinking others are towny.

But working on it.

I don’t get any good ninja vibes from you

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:18 am

That's my hard claim

ohhhhhh

You’re town now congrats

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:12 am Post cap?

No cap, I think you’re non-town

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:12 am So umm hi I'm caught up and learned literally nothing

Nothing?

I’m new to the thread, and I’m farting around.

You can’t smell that?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:34 pm Slankers and part-time players can and do win games.

I’m part time, full time and no time

I deserve a cookie

ok

So someone tell me why Wilgy is town

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:20 pm It is definitely weird! And yet, it is also token.

I am half the thread, so go figure people find more of my stuff fishy. I think motobot looks pretty sterling. I don't entirely understand Epi's rationale, but I recognize the flavor of it from past conflicts at least. Wilgy's vote is, as far as I know, "random voting stage" caliber. So he's the poop head if anyone is.

Granted, I would’ve voted you and claimed poop head if he didn’t.

But he’s still there

Someone give him a plunger for his ear

So naturally, we should probably just yeet sig today

As is tradition

Another out of expectation (OoE) is PrincessAbbi. Those 4 posts don’t say much, and not to use the participation card but it’s not what I expect from her

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:12 pm If one of my current voters is mafia, Wilgy would be my first guess. I'd probably guess zero mafia with a gun to my head.

Could be a town brigade, but I do find it odd based on what you have in the game resulting in a lead right now

Seems weird

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:40 pm Kage ought to be counted as town, no reason to do otherwise. I’d kinda suspect 2 over 3 with the double kill mechanic but that’s a bit shaky. No real idea.
This post pinged me. I experienced a ping.

I will share why soon enough. Before I do, anyone else in the crowd should provide a guess about why this post may have pinged me. What do you think, gang?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:11 pm Not to inflict this game with some creature pessimism but I’ve seen better starts

I also experience a ping a ling with that first one

And the second one…what was even the point of it besides offering the very minimum?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:01 pm Thank goodness. Bless.

You may be seated

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Yeah, JJJ is fine.

Voters: DrWilgy, motobot, Epignosis

Someone is fishy here.

My bet is on Wilgy, who so far with my brief catchup is a self described peepee poopoo

Here’s the vote spread

Spoiler: show

For JJJ to be lead wagon on D1, you’d think he killed John wick’s dog

Somehow, without reading, I doubt it

I didn’t know this started

But I am here to mush your kage

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