The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:42 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:09 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?
I think he's SCUMMY.

Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.

Your previous position on this:

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:45 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:41 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:39 pm Who else were you going after Tutuu? I've been seeing Wilgy so far that's been it.
Delta is claimed non-town and the optimal chop for today, I'm very confident he's mafia, and I'm very confident Wilgy is the last mafia. I townread everyone else except you, but Porscha claimed you to be lock town and Long Con is also townreading you. So Delta > Wilgy > Reevaluate (probably chop Lime Coke) is my current suggestion for optimal chop order

I think I'd be fine with Wilgy if Delta isn't town. I gotta try to find someone else then for you because I need to actually get a pelt and not feel like shit for this game and help myself out.

I'll have to try to look when I get a chance.

Have you looked? And there’s that excuse-y type language that I associate with over explaining wolves. Caught ilario on that too.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:43 pm I COULD hear you out on Scotty. Again I feel like I was going wrong somewhere and that might've been it.

You are perpetually going the wrong direction in a one-way, my dude

Alexy can still be wolf- a mafia watcher, I guess. Seems like a watered down role for mafia, but I’m sure there is a mafia equivalent. Honestly? Could be a mafia equivalent of all power roles. Like if Long Con’s mafia equivalent targeted him on N1.

Presumably 6v2 right now in this thread. Misyeet gets down to 4v2, which is mylo.

If one of me or alexy take to the torch, how confident are we in successfully navigating mylo once you learn we weren’t lying

Your Wilgy case makes a lot of sense and it hasn’t changed in possibility.

Long Con unfortunately thinks he caught me (and alexy) in a web of lies. I unfortunately can’t defend what I don’t know. Mech wise, I guess it may need to resolve, because im beginning to suspect there’s no amount of punitive guffawing I can do to verify anything

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:41 pm I think there is a world where Alexy is mafia and Scotty is town. From town Scotty's pov, he did attempt to target PSV (or as it DM? doesn't matter). Long Con stopped him. So in this case Alexy is the liar for claiming Scotty successfully visited his target. (Why would she lie about this though? I don't know, it makes no sense to me)

Is there a world where only Scotty is mafia and Alexy is town? I don't think so right? No there is - only if Long Con was roleblocked by Mafia n1.

So that world would be exactly Scotty - Mafia Redirector + Wilgy Mafia Roleblocker who blocked Long Con N1

So Alexy isn't necessarily the optimal choice

Scotty over Alexy could be better. It depends. Like it depends on social reads, there's no clear mechanical better first chop here imo

No hammer so I don't need to overthink it yet

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Alexy was the first to claim in this situation, and correctly identified 1 in 8?? people that I claimed. There’s no way that’s a lie, and there’s no way mafia know I *meant* to target psv but was blocked.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:36 pm In either case something really ridiculous happened this game

Either:

1) Mafia randomly blocked Long Con n1, town Alexy claimed for realistically no reason, which caused town Scotty and town Long Con to claim and a whole mess began over nothing

or

2) mafia Alexy and mafia Scotty randomly decided to claim false actions for no reason, under no real pressure, only to get outed by a basic Mafia role that they should know could be possible (tracking, roleblocking, etc)

In either case this is absurd lol

I think 1 is unfortunately the case

2 is absolutely absurd and terrible mafia play. So what, I get my action out in the public when I don’t need to, to curry favor? Or something?

My role is pretty garbage as is- how reckless would I have to be to claim bus driver after TSP flipped bus driver, in the hypothesized world where people are linked by alignment. Pretty good assumption up to that point that roles would also be linked.

anyway, they are not linked

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm No.

Alexy said he saw me visit psv N1.

I confirmed that.

Longcon said he blocked me.
You being mafia and Alexy being town should be a self-explanatory mechanical possibility. We keep discussing the possibility of Long Con being roleblocked. Which is that. Long Con doesn't know if he's roleblocked. You don't know if your action goes through. Alexy could be town regardless of your alignment. From her pov - you visited. From your pov - you think you visited, but you can't know for sure. From LC's pov - he thinks he blocked you, but he can't know for sure.

It is very implausible that I failed. Very implausible. Alexy saw me visit, so LC’s action didn’t work in some way.

That’s the mechanical truth.

Now obviously that’s *my* truth, since you don’t know if alexy and I are in on it.

My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.

So now, looking at the mech you’ve laid out, you say town is advantaged. Ok, with what we know, if that is the case, mafia’s gotta have some more powerful roles we haven’t seen. I’ll betcha the other thread has a town role blocker, and we still have a mafia role blocker over here. Since TSP had my role, and I’m town.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:45 pm If I’m mafia, I’m not killing LC, I’m killing you last night.
Why? I claimed VT. Darling Monroe is confirmed mason. And why would you not kill Long Con, he really wanted you dead? Anyway asking and answering this doesn't matter, if you are Mafia of course you'd lie, so

LC implied or admitted (somewhere if my memory serves me right) he was out of shots. So VT-ness has nothing to do with it.

I would’ve gone for you as a top town voice and doc dodge

But mafia have not doc dodged this whole game.

Ever.

Makes you wonder if they’re even paying attention

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:41 pm I am only wolf in a world where I am partners with alexy.
No, there is a world you are mafia and Alexy is town

Scotty - Mafia Redirector + Wilgy Mafia Roleblocker who blocked Long Con N1

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:41 pm I’d rather chop Lime Coke, who is happy to just vote Wilgy here. Talk about someone just sleepwalking through this game
Did you not just do the exact same thing? Is this not hypocritical? Why is it scummy for Lime Coke but not for you?

No.

Alexy said he saw me visit psv N1.

I confirmed that.

Longcon said he blocked me.

So either we’re both lying or long con was redirected/blocked. That’s how I see it.

“Did you not just do the exact same thing? Is this not hypocritical? Why is it scummy for Lime Coke but not for you?”
No, tutuu. Because I’ve been far more engaged with this game than Lime Coke. He is far more aloof. Check his iso.

Come on. This isn’t a comparison and I’m kinda peeved you’re even questioning that. You even said I’m socially town, which I’m not even sure what that means, but that sounds cool.

I wouldn’t say Lime Coke is ‘socially town’. Would you?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:31 pm Long Con did die over a Mason, so. Really bad look for Scotty + Alexy.

Like if you're Mafia, and Scotty and Alexy both town, you just kill the mason there, and leave Long Con alive to mischop them

[v]Alexy[/v]

I haven't thought yet which one first is better, I thought about it earlier but I forgot. Like are there worlds where only one is mafia?

If I’m mafia, I’m not killing LC, I’m killing you last night.
I had you pegged as the NK last night

Anyway, could I be wrong about Alexy? Yeah, maybe. I’ll do some DD on that slot later

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:28 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:07 pm Hopefully someone cool joined our ranks here to give us more insight

RIP Long Con and WWA

Guess we don’t have any more protectives here. I used my last shot last night
What did you do last night?

I had Lime Coke redirect onto Wilgy.

Now that I’m basically VT, I also must admit that my role is even less cool than even previously admitted- I can’t even redirect kills.

I probably haven’t even done anything with my role so far

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:30 pm Delta chose to play as a wolf imo, he could have townsided from the start and imo it would have been better for both him and us.

Scotty and/or Alexy should be considered

One of them or both could be Mafia (I'm unsure yet chopping which one first is optimal), unless Mafia exactly roleblocked Long Con N1.

Wilgy could also be Mafia (mechanically) with either Scotty or Alexy anyway, even if Long Con was blocked N1

So we have the most equity chopping Alexy or Scotty today imo. If either of them flips town (and we can derive the info that Long Con was blocked n1) -> then we can sleep at MyLo, and chop Wilgy at LyLo imo

I hear you.

I am only wolf in a world where I am partners with alexy. I do not personally even think alexy is wolf. Objectively, yeeting me at this stage is taking away a big talker. I’m soooooooo obvious town but I get it. LC’s mech is a quandary.

I’d rather chop Lime Coke, who is happy to just vote Wilgy here. Talk about someone just sleepwalking through this game

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Hopefully someone cool joined our ranks here to give us more insight

RIP Long Con and WWA

Guess we don’t have any more protectives here. I used my last shot last night

bummer

I have the same role as a wolf, and I claimed as such

Terrible wolf play tbh

If LC dies so does WWA btw

ok well, good luck y’all.

Delta, I hope you’re just wolf

I hope we figure out why long con’s action didn’t work

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm delta flips mafia -> poggers

delta flips 3p -> someone needs to claim if they impacted the mech situation. if not, chop scotty. if scotty flips town, we just got screwed by mech that seems beyond our control, either a wild mafia role here or impact from other thread or something bizarre. unless long con mafia. but no way long con mafia. if he's mafia that's insane

Yeah so

I’m town. If I’m wolf, how does this impact your Wilgy read, tutuu?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm I thought I would be dying tonight.

I’d kill you tonite

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:45 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:37 pm I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.
Bus driver chooses two people and everyone who targets A targets B and vice versa. That's a different role. Did either you or WWA use the wrong name?
Yeah, that is correct, but the role flipped as bus driver, apparently.

Bizarre. I did look at my role and its not labeled as anything, I just assumed it was a bus driver but I apparently am missing a gasket

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:39 pm Unless @Lime Coke and @DarlingMonroe show up, you're home free, Scotty. Especially since @Cape90 didn't seem to care that I very likely just caught the last two wolves.

I mean…the move here is to always kill delta first anyway. I know you think you solved the game but you didn’t, and putting me over right now instead of a confirmed 3p is just….a bad idea.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:20 pm So... you target PSV, onto DM. That means that whoever targets PSV is now targeting DM?

No, if psv had an action, it instead went onto DM

Delta, you die in 40 min. Any last words if you’re still around?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:15 pm Could uhhh... Mafia target people from other threads? Like TSP bus driving us here? Idk what is reality anymore

Up to this point, I haven’t seen a point of mafia being able to see into the other thread, so maybe so

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:16 pm Mechanically Scotty looks very sus but socially imo he's obv town

I’m a walking contradiction since i entered. I’m a mess in explaining myself but I think I’ve revealed all my secrets this game now

Except my favorite sushi. You’ll never get that out of me

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:15 pm And block myself? I don't need to create a quantum singularity up in this hizzy.

Is that how that would work? Lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:11 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:08 pm I’m protecting Long Con tonite btw
How are you protecting him? You're redirecting a person's action to someone else
I’m not.

But let me ask you this, Long Con: when I said I was gonna protect jack, who was absolutely the right protect, did you BLOCK me?
No, I blocked you night 1, the Jack protect was night 2.

ohhhhh ok carry on.

Still top town.

Protect yourself tonite mate

Unless you thought I was the night kill? Which doesn’t sound likely since you seemed to suspect me to hell.

No, blocking the claimed doctor, even if you don’t believe me, is a weird move

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:08 pm I’m protecting Long Con tonite btw
How are you protecting him? You're redirecting a person's action to someone else

I’m not.

But let me ask you this, Long Con: when I said I was gonna protect jack, who was absolutely the right protect, did you BLOCK me?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:08 pm bus driver + redirector is an absolute headache this sounds so unlike Jay. I suppose not impossible but damn. this is a headache to resolve and play, and Jay normally likes very simple vanilla roles afaik

I have one more shot, and will be using it tonite on one of my scum reads as I have the past 2 nights

Still think it’s Wilgy / Lime Coke right now. That’s my solve

I’m protecting Long Con tonite btw

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 pm last night I drove delta onto alexy.
Why didn't you bus drove Jack?
Hol up, I just looked up bus driver.

I’m not a bus driver. I don’t swap their roles, I just redirect one player’s target into another.

Which is even lamer than a bus driver. I’m more like a Prius driver
Alright that's different. So a redirector? Hm

Yeah. Nevermind.

Which actually makes me believe there IS a real mafia bus driver or something. Trying to puzzle out Long Don’s result

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:03 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 pm I bus drove psv onto WWA N1
You did what?

Oops, I’m multitasking right now, not WWA. DarlingMonroe. I redirected psv onto DM
I was just thinking about what WWA said about TSP

I’m a mess right now just ignore

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 pm last night I drove delta onto alexy.
Why didn't you bus drove Jack?

Hol up, I just looked up bus driver.

I’m not a bus driver. I don’t swap their roles, I just redirect one player’s target into another.

Which is even lamer than a bus driver. I’m more like a Prius driver

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:00 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:07 pm TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.
BUS DRIVER

WHAT

Wait Long Con what if there's a bus driver here too, and you didn't roleblock Scotty?
It’s me. I’m the bus driver. Except I’m town.

What’s trippy is if there’s ANOTHER bus driver that drove Long Con. That’s the only thing I can think of with why I wasn’t blocked.

But with this many bus drivers, I feel like roads are too clogged. Questionable design tbh

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:07 pm TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.
BUS DRIVER

WHAT

Wait Long Con what if there's a bus driver here too, and you didn't roleblock Scotty?

It’s me. I’m the bus driver. Except I’m town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!

I appreciate what you think is a smoking gun.

Wait, you blocked me, but alexy still confirmed she saw me visit?

That is bizarre. But exciting! I can see where you would immediately grow suspicious of how alexy would know that, if I were blocked. Which from my pov, means alexy is telling the truth, and my action succeeded. How else would she know that? But why was I not blocked then? I think you’re telling the truth.

You wanna hear something even weirder?

I’m not the doctor- I’m a bus driver. I bus drove psv onto WWA N1, and last night I drove delta onto alexy.

With WWA confirming that TSP was mafia bus driver, that confirms that mafia can definitely have town foils with the same power.

Also I don’t have to end my sentences with any sort of limitation, that’s just a thematic thing I was doing to fuck around. It’s getting a bit annoying to try and keep up lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:23 pm Neighborhood but so far all alignments have matched

But yeah its good to keep in mind a town/mafia pairing isn't out if the question

Also I really really bet Jay didn't randomize the pairings. Porscha being Abi just makes sense, I can see Long Con being WWA too. All pairings make a lot of sense for Jay to think "this person reminds me of this person". It's so funny if he did that lmao

Not me looking up the signups
I guess that would make me…like…Rondo? I

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to
I feel like if that's a town ability town would be overloaded with power roles and abilities. In comparison to Ilario and TSP being goon, and we have no feedback of any possible mafia power role doing anything. So i'm concluding they at least have to have something, so it could be the extra votes

oh oh oh I misunderstood

Yes, I think getting an extra vote could be a wolf ability.

Who all has claimed to have an extra vote so far? Just you and alexy?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:59 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:56 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?
Uhhh
I am not VT.

Jack and DM are confirmed not VT. Whatchu smokin,
No extra death, no fancy stuff, no nothing. Fmpov this was a lowkey mountainous game, I wasn't seeing anything happen. I didn't literally mean all of us VTs

lol nothing about this game setup screams mountainous. If anything, I’m surprised at how many VTs we’ve seen already

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads

I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:58 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
You didn't watch Jack N2 because you believed that Scotty would be a protective role and on Jack?

Based on how alexy responded to my claim, I don’t think she even saw it until this phase,

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:34 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:38 am Gira
Rondo
Bereft
Ran

Abbi(Porscha)

Pyxxy
Dizzy?

Leetic*

Ted*

Dead town: robyn, mac
Dead mafia: TSP (ilario)
Hi WWA! Welcommen

Quick question: what kind of gameplay was TSP exhibiting that made your thread suspicious of him/got him yeeted? Your entrance really clears up my
Pushing anticonsensus reads
Ilario also never posted there
And people said TSP wolfy
But didn't vote him!

(2 posts remain)

Shoot, ok. You have even fewer posts than Robyn did. That’s annoying. Wonder if it has to do with how late you die. Like if you had died the next phase you would only have 2 posts, and on the 4th cycle only 1,

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:56 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?

Uhhh
I am not VT.

Jack and DM are confirmed not VT. Whatchu smokin,

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.

This checks out, I did visit psv night 1

Watcher def seems like a town role, though that shouldn’t hold too much weight objectively. I want to just townread you for

I think Lime Coke holds a lot of scum equity based on WWA’s answer to my question on how TSP played.

Because as a whole, mafia have a muddled focus. They have more info than they probably need from the other thread. I think the mafia, therefore, have a higher chance of being a bit…what’s the phrase…”out of focus”. That’s not a phrase, I just made that up. But still holds water.

Lime Coke has been all over the place this game. His head has not really been in the game.

Not to the same extent of Alexy, whose head has just not absorbed the thread most of the game. If that makes any sense.

My POE atm is
Delta > Wilgy > Lime Coke > Alexy in that

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:00 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:40 pm
Spoiler: show
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:46 pm viewtopic.php?t=2545

In this game wilgy was wolves with guillo

here is what happened EoD1:

viewtopic.php?p=1068080#p1068069

please look at this vote count and follow closely at the vote jumps, day ends a few posts below @Long Con @Scotty

guillo had 3 votes. me(town) had 3 votes. pyxxy(town) had 3 votes. wilgy is voting pyxxy

next vote count its 4-4 between me and guillo. wilgy is still on pyxxy, alone

day ends in a 5-5 tie, with wilgy voting guillo

wilgy could have easily not voted, or voted me, and gotten away with it

he also didnt see zenon's last vote shift to me. or he could have. in either way:

1) wilgy saw zenon voting me. it was 5-4 between me and his scum partner. he chose to tie up his partner

2) wilgy didnt see zenon voting me. he thought it was 4-4 between me and his scum partner. he chose to hammer the nail on his scum partner

wilgy is capable of doing egregious busses as wolf

i wouldn't townread him for voting ilario there

and the reason why i scumread him is because
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:33 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:46 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:44 pm vote delta
for a
free
win
what kind of black magic is this?
Why are YOU voting me?
It felt that you were being kept at -1 somewhat forcibly while at the same time I mostly tr the players on you.

>>>Between you and psv, I think both may need to resolve.<<<
lc senior and psv are most likely both town so the bolded part is a crime against humanity. he was also trying to kill me. that's 3/3 town. yes he voted ilario and yes he voted delta but his heart wasnt in it. wilgy is an egregious busser

Noted. I am kinda weirded out that you have this ready to case against Wilgy, but this is a possibility I am considering.

Moving Wilgy to
Oh no! Notes?

Have you been in a scum chat before and if you have, why does this concern you :P?

nope never been in a scum chat

What’s a

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:55 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:54 pm [VOTE: Ilario] aubergine sure
this is a towny vote

depending on PSV's flip, Long Con's self pres is towny

So more likely then not Long Con is towny here

On paper I thought so too, but check out Tutuu’s case here

It’s certainly

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