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by Scotty
Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

So consensus seems to be Wilgy as bad? It’s a surprise but I can dig it.
by Scotty
Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

My favorite part about reading back the last few pages is how in depth jack has been and bringing a bunch of original thoughts to the table

And still not voting
by Scotty
Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:40 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

My current solve:

Pyxxy/jack

If pyxxy town, it’s jack/Camilla

If Jack town, it’s pyxxy/Camilla

Q: Why camilla as deep wolf?
A: She wasn’t around to help protect Porscha D1

Wilgy firmly suspects pyxxy. Rondo firmly suspected pyxxy as the d1 counter wagon. Falcon maybe?? Suspected pyxxy.
by Scotty
Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:32 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:55 am i assume that syn comment means no (the sound a horse makes is neigh) to double targeting

ergo three possibilities
1) doc healed tutuu n2 and couldnt heal her n3. unlucky
2) doc tried to reverse psychology not heal tutuu n3 so if the mafia doc dodges they heal her n4 and save her. unlucky
3) doc was blocked and mafia know who they are.

doc will know which scenario it is. If its 1 or 2 they should stay hidden. If its 3 then they should reveal if they are in the POE and stay hidden if they are not (they arent gonna die anyway so better to stay hidden and make the mafia not know if its 1/2 or 3)
.......@Scotty.......come.......eat.......the.......tasty mech.......and respond.......
I’ve eaten the tasty mech, hence me asking if there is double targeting.

Alison basically summed up what I was thinking.

The doc has the most info and can do with it what they wish
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

Actually, I would recommend based on Syn’s answer for doc to come out today.

Because mafia already knows who they are
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

I’m also willing to look into the multiverse where neither of us are bad and how those teams would shake out.

That’s a wild universe
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:19 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

If pyxxy is bad, Wilgy is cleared as far as I’m concerned.

I mean, I think he already looked plenty town from the Porscha interactions and to throw a vote for pyxxy yesterday when he could have conceivably became the leading wagon is just not something I would expect partner Wilgy to do unless he just wanted the sweet sweet cred.

That would be deepwolfing
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

@Syn can people double target in this game? (Ie back to back cycles)
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

Also I think it’s a pretty good assumption that the RB correctly identified the doc, otherwise there is no reason tutuu should have died last night
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

@pyxxy now that jack has had a full phase to get accustomed to the game flow, what’s your read?
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

In any case, solving you really solves other things.

But if I’m wrong, I know there’s a very good chance I’m dead right after in mylo, and town just loses. So it’s back to the drawing board
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 7:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 7:02 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 6:56 pm
pyxxy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 6:18 pm ..............scotty.......biggest.......help..............for me..............could.......you.......help solve.......roxy?.......

.......bc.......this post.......
Roxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 3:09 pm Wow after the catch up I am wondering if Pyxxy and Scotty are both town and now just resolved to being elimmed as per the normalization of this mind/group think.

So we elim Scotty and he is town then we go for Pyxxy bc hey it is "optimal" and Pyxxy comes up town. Down we are down to lose.

falcon givng up and telling people to solve like he is town to get a head start is a bit odd. Leaving no legacy or reads just an idaf about the town legacy. It makes me want to vote them bc this feels different from falcon

I liked Scotty looking into Alison and Camilla bc I have had a niggling feeling about a baddie team consisting of two high posters and one lhf.

Tutuu saying should would lose to Alison and Camilla as mafia is a bit sad for the town that she would ride in the back seat of that car going over a cliff bc hey it's ok to lose to them.

Nah.

I'm going to continue to look and frankly idc care if no one pays attention but I don't just roll over bc certain players could be bad and I cba'ed to give a good care for the towns sake. I will look at everyone and everything.
.......we have.......potential.......here.......

..............@DrWilgy.......would also.......take.......your thoughts..............on.......this.......roxy.......quote.......
Actually besides the point that i townread Roxy before yesterday, that post makes her appear even MORE town in my eyes.

By her trying to remove you and myself from the POE, she’s leaving herself little wiggle room.




I think most importantly today that people need to ask is who would be the most likely partner to either Me or You. I don’t think anyone could see us as potential w/w.

I was kinda hoping it was just you and falcon, but we might have to throw Prince Jack into the mix again.
.......no.......deep wolf.......possibility?.......as in.......when.......would.......that.......potentiality.......be.......in.......your.......solve?
I don’t think at this point I’m going to jump off my Roxy town read based on meta reasoning.

Also, I wouldn’t really consider Roxy as a conventional deep wolf anyway. I consider deep wolves as generally town leaders pushing the thread along in a general direction, which I don’t think I would use to classify Roxy at this point.

Example of deep wolves in my view: Camilla/Alison/me. Those are the potential deep wolves.
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 6:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 6:18 pm ..............scotty.......biggest.......help..............for me..............could.......you.......help solve.......roxy?.......

.......bc.......this post.......
Roxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 3:09 pm Wow after the catch up I am wondering if Pyxxy and Scotty are both town and now just resolved to being elimmed as per the normalization of this mind/group think.

So we elim Scotty and he is town then we go for Pyxxy bc hey it is "optimal" and Pyxxy comes up town. Down we are down to lose.

falcon givng up and telling people to solve like he is town to get a head start is a bit odd. Leaving no legacy or reads just an idaf about the town legacy. It makes me want to vote them bc this feels different from falcon

I liked Scotty looking into Alison and Camilla bc I have had a niggling feeling about a baddie team consisting of two high posters and one lhf.

Tutuu saying should would lose to Alison and Camilla as mafia is a bit sad for the town that she would ride in the back seat of that car going over a cliff bc hey it's ok to lose to them.

Nah.

I'm going to continue to look and frankly idc care if no one pays attention but I don't just roll over bc certain players could be bad and I cba'ed to give a good care for the towns sake. I will look at everyone and everything.
.......we have.......potential.......here.......

..............@DrWilgy.......would also.......take.......your thoughts..............on.......this.......roxy.......quote.......
Actually besides the point that i townread Roxy before yesterday, that post makes her appear even MORE town in my eyes.

By her trying to remove you and myself from the POE, she’s leaving herself little wiggle room.




I think most importantly today that people need to ask is who would be the most likely partner to either Me or You. I don’t think anyone could see us as potential w/w.

I was kinda hoping it was just you and falcon, but we might have to throw Prince Jack into the mix again.
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 6:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 5:46 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:52 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:49 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:45 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:43 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm Alison, would you say that are you someone that isn't afraid to bus your teammates?
I hellbus fearlessly when I am mafia. I think people who are afraid to bus are pussies
What does hellbus mean (actual question) in regards to bussing
It means you dont relent or give yourself any outs to hop off. Its a battle to the death

I wouldnt bus porscha here though if thats what youre thinking. Its an int to bus in a cop doc setup d1 because if the cop checks you its instant gg
Gotcha

Interesting qualifier. So you hellbus fearlessly but you wouldn't have done so this game.
more shading of towncore trying to widen the poe zzz

its manipulative, he isn't outright saying he finds it sus, he's stating what alison said in a tone which sets you up (the reader) to go "hmmm, suspicious words coming from alison", without getting his own hands dirty. ultra common wolf tell

>>>if falcon flips town kill scotty is my legacy. please kill his ass<<<

if falcon flips mafia i think u guys will win easily it rly doesnt matter whos the last wolf
.......also.......[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
How convenient
by Scotty
Wed May 31, 2023 6:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D4] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 5:05 pm
pyxxy wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 5:05 pm .......it appears the doc was dodged :/
.......EBWOP.......sorry..............multitabling.......
:noble:
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 4:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 2:52 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:49 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:45 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:43 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm Alison, would you say that are you someone that isn't afraid to bus your teammates?
I hellbus fearlessly when I am mafia. I think people who are afraid to bus are pussies
What does hellbus mean (actual question) in regards to bussing
It means you dont relent or give yourself any outs to hop off. Its a battle to the death

I wouldnt bus porscha here though if thats what youre thinking. Its an int to bus in a cop doc setup d1 because if the cop checks you its instant gg
Gotcha

Interesting qualifier. So you hellbus fearlessly but you wouldn't have done so this game.
more shading of towncore trying to widen the poe zzz

its manipulative, he isn't outright saying he finds it sus, he's stating what alison said in a tone which sets you up (the reader) to go "hmmm, suspicious words coming from alison", without getting his own hands dirty. ultra common wolf tell

>>>if falcon flips town kill scotty is my legacy. please kill his ass<<<

if falcon flips mafia i think u guys will win easily it rly doesnt matter whos the last wolf
A. I can see you’ve got blinders on for me, and that’s unfortunate but fine
B. The doc should be trained on you tonite and there’s no way mafia is killing me tonite so I’ll see you tomorrow
C. If falcon flips town my only and you do choose to kill me my only ask is to then kill pyxxy after
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:47 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:43 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm Alison, would you say that are you someone that isn't afraid to bus your teammates?
I hellbus fearlessly when I am mafia. I think people who are afraid to bus are pussies
What does hellbus mean (actual question) in regards to bussing
Image
YAY I GOT THIS REFERENCE :D
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:45 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:43 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm Alison, would you say that are you someone that isn't afraid to bus your teammates?
I hellbus fearlessly when I am mafia. I think people who are afraid to bus are pussies
What does hellbus mean (actual question) in regards to bussing
It means you dont relent or give yourself any outs to hop off. Its a battle to the death

I wouldnt bus porscha here though if thats what youre thinking. Its an int to bus in a cop doc setup d1 because if the cop checks you its instant gg
Gotcha

Interesting qualifier. So you hellbus fearlessly but you wouldn't have done so this game.
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm Alison, would you say that are you someone that isn't afraid to bus your teammates?
I hellbus fearlessly when I am mafia. I think people who are afraid to bus are pussies
What does hellbus mean (actual question) in regards to bussing
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:42 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:38 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:37 pm My spicy read is that i really do still think pyxxy is town and my one reservation (he is coasting a bit after i shielded) isnt a issue anymore

Everyone else seems to have pyx as consensus poe but i would kill scotty and wilgy minimim before him probs
Ah see, you make a great post where I was about to put you into towncore, and then you invalidate it with this one!

Bummer
Damn whatever will i do scotty isnt towncoring me
Just means you won't receive my miraculous christmas card this year where I cosplay as Santa's Little Helper
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:40 pm
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Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison, would you say that are you someone that isn't afraid to bus your teammates?
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:38 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:37 pm My spicy read is that i really do still think pyxxy is town and my one reservation (he is coasting a bit after i shielded) isnt a issue anymore

Everyone else seems to have pyx as consensus poe but i would kill scotty and wilgy minimim before him probs
Ah see, you make a great post where I was about to put you into towncore, and then you invalidate it with this one!

Bummer
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:34 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:30 pm
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:08 pm
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:53 pm .......to be clear..............second game.......iirc.......with roxy..............and.......previous.......she.......was scum..............but.......towny.......to me.......since.......D1.......
wait so are you saying you still think roxy could be bad?
.......unlikely.......bad.......imo.......
...so why even make the post I quoted where you seem to contrast a game where she fooled you?
.......clarifying.......the context.......and possible.......lack..............of experience..............behind.......my opinion..............in case.......someone.......else..............felt strongly.......:/.......
You sir, are a hedge

A downright bush
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

We also still have the doc (the acccredited one, not the wilgy) milling about, so that helps our odds if we miselim a few here.

I'm feeling good at least 1 is in these wagons
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:27 pm I don’t even really think Scotty is a difference check with Falcon. I’ve been burned by hellbussing and there’s nothing that says they both can’t be town besides like…gamestate where I think Tutuu, Alison, Camilla are all town and I know I’m town makes it less likely than a random 2 person pairing in a more open game.

And the Pyxxy/Scotty difference check was me misremembering how the previous night’s conversation went first thing in the morning.

I agree with the strategy that you yeet one of a difference check if it exists but I think they rarely exist and I’m not sure I’m looking at one here.

Mostly just antsy with how easy Falcon is gonna go over.
If wolf!falcon exists, he only has one partner. What is the optimal route for that partner to take? Is it boldly gun for cred? Is it walk into this shrug yeet?

hmm either way, setting up for a potential 6v1 isn't going to do you any favors.

But in this threadstate, they may have no choice but to concede to letting falcon go over. The town is rather willing to let him die (and he's not really doing himself any favors in my opinion) so why rock the boat?
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:11 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:08 pm
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:53 pm .......to be clear..............second game.......iirc.......with roxy..............and.......previous.......she.......was scum..............but.......towny.......to me.......since.......D1.......
wait so are you saying you still think roxy could be bad?
.......unlikely.......bad.......imo.......
...so why even make the post I quoted where you seem to contrast a game where she fooled you?
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 1:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:53 pm .......to be clear..............second game.......iirc.......with roxy..............and.......previous.......she.......was scum..............but.......towny.......to me.......since.......D1.......
wait so are you saying you still think roxy could be bad?
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 12:44 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:26 pm What’s the consensus on Roxy? I’m not seeing her thrown around as a potential wolf and I’m not seeing anyone insist she’s town.

Wilgy is at a similar spot but I do see a couple people proclaiming townreads there.
I think Roxy has exhibited some pushback that associate with her towngame, and just check out Wilgy’s iso (it’s not long), especially his behavior around the D1 yeet. That makes a good case for me anyway of his towniness
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 12:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

DrWilgy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:43 am
Scotty wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:06 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:38 am
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:05 am
tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:52 pm @pyxxy can you place a vote asap. i want to see what you do

@Jackofhearts2005 you too. there's no hammer
.......sorry..............had..............to sleep.......

.......I think.......I'm stuck..............re-reading..............is..............scotty/falcon..............a.......difference check?.......wdyt?.......
You/Scotty is a difference check.

It’s not hard to read this as tmi Falcon is town to be used to yeet town Scotty later. 👀
If we’re a definitive difference check then the vote should be on one of us
I'm trying. Well, I'm trying as much as I care, and that's not very much.

The fact that you two are fine voting together on Falc is concerning, but even further that you voting together is not a concern to either of you seems wild to me.
At this point, if falcon is bad, from a general perspective, someone is bussing unless falcon’s partner is just you. But even that seems like a tall order for your long term win equity

It is concerning, for sure. Doesn’t mean he’s town.

Despite my effort to keep discussion going on all angles of things, the thread has been basically dead aside from ‘falcon is maybe bad’ and ‘Scotty is be wronger than the grammar in this phrase’

Falcon needs to be resolved, and pyxxy need to be resolved. Then barring no results, I guess I need to be resolved.

We’re 7-2. Miselim here is 5-2, which means we can elim one of me/pyxxy tomorrow and still only be at mylo

I’m not incredibly worried yet unless we’re all being snowed by like Alison/Camilla or something
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:52 am If I think I’m going to be yeeted as a townie, I shout my legacy as much as possible. I do isos so I can improve that legacy, maybe find that key bit of info that breaks the game open and saves me simultaneously. Or maybe just lets my fellow townies see that I’m town.

Granted, this is an exhausting way to play and not everyone has to be me but it’s so foreign to just give up that it frustrates the hell out of me. Makes me especially mad if Falcon turns out to be town.
It’s a tough cookie to crack. I do remember town catching bad falcon in Warbreaker on D1 but he was so nonplussed in that one. Circumstances are always different, but I seem to also remember town falcon laying down like this (laying down being a relative term here, since falcon is adamant he is town, but isn’t providing anything to the contrary).

In any case, there’s a reason he’s the winningest player last year, and it’s not because he’s easy to read in any alignment
by Scotty
Tue May 30, 2023 11:06 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:38 am
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:05 am
tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:52 pm @pyxxy can you place a vote asap. i want to see what you do

@Jackofhearts2005 you too. there's no hammer
.......sorry..............had..............to sleep.......

.......I think.......I'm stuck..............re-reading..............is..............scotty/falcon..............a.......difference check?.......wdyt?.......
You/Scotty is a difference check.

It’s not hard to read this as tmi Falcon is town to be used to yeet town Scotty later. 👀
If we’re a definitive difference check then the vote should be on one of us
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:28 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:25 pm
Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu

D1 eod

If pyxxy is town, idt 2 mafia sit off his wagon. Zenon and tutuu are conf town so if there is a 2nd mafia on pyxxy which i think must be the case if pyxxy is town then its scotty

If pyxxy town then scotty scum
Dont think pyxxy and scotty are scum together
Ergo if pyxxy scum then scotty town

So scotty/pyxxy diff check i think?
Someone sanity check my logic
Do you not think there is a possibility of both pyxxy and myself being town?

(I agree that I lean pyxxy bad atm but that scenario could still exist, could it not?)
Then where are the other two mafia? They just gonna let a mafia die d1 when either of them can easily vote pyxxy with little accountability and kill a town over a maf?
Well, here’s a theory.

And I know you’re not gonna want to hear this




But Camilla wasn’t around D1




ok I’ll go back to my broom closet
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
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Views: 42203

Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:26 pm
Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu

D1 eod

If pyxxy is town, idt 2 mafia sit off his wagon. Zenon and tutuu are conf town so if there is a 2nd mafia on pyxxy which i think must be the case if pyxxy is town then its scotty

If pyxxy town then scotty scum
Dont think pyxxy and scotty are scum together
Ergo if pyxxy scum then scotty town

So scotty/pyxxy diff check i think?
Someone sanity check my logic
This reads logical except what if there were mafia absent at EOD or mafia that were caught not where they wanted to be by last min wagon shifts? What happens when you take that into account?

Also, idk if in a wolf Porscha/town Pyxxy world wolves really push to yeet Pyxxy over Porscha. Depends. Like was Porscha going down anyway eventually? Did the wolves express townreads on Pyxxy and scumreads on Porscha such that it was hard to shift their votes there in a way that wouldn't be awkward?

Basically, I appreciate your line of thinking and I'd like it to be true but I'm skeptical of it's accuracy re: there is def exactly one wolf in Pyxxy/Scotty.
Porscha is the yeet in a wolf pyxxy/Porscha split if pyxxy is the RBer. This was my conjecture at the beginning of D2, and it’s not a terrible theory
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:29 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:26 pm My point was that most of the town is having "blendy" takes today so i am curious why camilla is particularly guilty of it in your view. Like Jack has I think no views at all that arent consensus
I think I’ve just been reading Camilla as the default town voice in the bundle that is zenon/tutuu/Camilla, and actually looked through her iso for the first time.

I’ve already done that with you, and felt more comfortable based on your Porscha vote why I think you look town.

Prince jack just showed up to the diner with a fancy leather jacket and pompadour haircut so im still getting a feel for him
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:25 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:22 pm Pyxxy: Scotty, Porscha, Zenon, Tutuu

D1 eod

If pyxxy is town, idt 2 mafia sit off his wagon. Zenon and tutuu are conf town so if there is a 2nd mafia on pyxxy which i think must be the case if pyxxy is town then its scotty

If pyxxy town then scotty scum
Dont think pyxxy and scotty are scum together
Ergo if pyxxy scum then scotty town

So scotty/pyxxy diff check i think?
Someone sanity check my logic
Do you not think there is a possibility of both pyxxy and myself being town?

(I agree that I lean pyxxy bad atm but that scenario could still exist, could it not?)
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:23 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:18 pm You're right that camilla has no original takes but does she need to?

she sits there and goes ok i think falcon is scum. well half the game thinks what. What do you expect her to do, cook up a case on tutuu?
No, but that is the definition of blendy, is it not?

Maybe falcon is scum, and we can revisit this tomorrow, but I think it silly to not even visit the possibility of why we townread her
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:15 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:09 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:02 pm
Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:10 pm only skimmed but not a fan of the scotty shade on camilla

I don't really understand what is it that camilla is accused of doing wrong and I don't get why her being trusted by townies = she's bad
YALL

IM LOOKING AT ALL AVENUES BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO JUST SLEEPWALK INTO THE VOID
can you rephrase/sum up your suspicion on camilla
It’s just like 3 posts at the top of the last page. Just a general vibe like I feel she’s town based on her solving, but it’s still so blendy.

Also I’m apparently the only one even contemplating that which also is weird to me.

Why is Camilla good, to you?
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:11 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Think of my vote as a +1.

I’m down to vote pyxxy or falcon because I still think one or both of them are bad, if that’s what the rest of you want to do.
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:09 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

This is a futile exercise but In this episode of
IF I WERE WOLF (hosted by Drew Carey)
I would stick to my guns with town!falcon and town!pyxxy and let you all cannabalize one of them today. I wouldn’t make any more waves.

Then I’d kill Camilla tonite as a doc dodge

And here comes Priscilla the Dancing Bear to bring us to commercial!

[AUDIENCE APPLAUSE]
[Cut to black]
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:04 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 6:02 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:05 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:51 pm scotty + jack or scotty + pyxxy
Scotty, Scotty Pyxxy as the last two point five wolves.

Book it.

…what

Since when do you suddenly suspect me too
I don't. The joke is that Tutuu listed you twice.
joke













me
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:02 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:10 pm only skimmed but not a fan of the scotty shade on camilla

I don't really understand what is it that camilla is accused of doing wrong and I don't get why her being trusted by townies = she's bad
YALL

IM LOOKING AT ALL AVENUES BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO JUST SLEEPWALK INTO THE VOID
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 6:01 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:07 pm I agree with Tutuu in a vacuum that's a bad Scotty post. I haven't looked at his other stuff and don't have enough confidence in my Scotty reading ability to follow that push atm.

You can call that cowardly wolf motivated for not wanting to push a partner/misyeet but it's just ya know that last sentence rephrased.
This is some opportunistic bullshit and you know it

So outside of the ‘vacuum’ it’s a good post? Or is there no correlation.
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:59 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:05 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:51 pm scotty + jack or scotty + pyxxy
Scotty, Scotty Pyxxy as the last two point five wolves.

Book it.

…what

Since when do you suddenly suspect me too
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:58 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

Camilla wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:02 pm This is kind of why I wished Zenon would have peeked someone else as peeking you was basically a waste being that vocal slots tend to resolve themselves, tbh.

With the game-state as-is I feel like the ideal peek would've been Pyxxy or Scotty.
Even now I can’t get a feel on what you think of me

Do you even suspect me? Or just going with the flow?
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:58 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:01 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:43 pm I just can’t shake this feeling.

Eh

Maybe falcon is the safer choice today

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
this. is. not. a real. post

this. reads. like a script. from a play.

script ... from a porno. awkward asf dialogue. theatrical. made out of plastic. fake. not real.
I don’t know what pornos you’ve been watching but I’d at least have made it ‘step-falcon’
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 5:00 pm that said im scared as fuck if u guys sheep me and chop scotty today. i still a pussy. pussy as shit. so plz dont. i wont gloat about it later i dont do stuff like that
You can be beholden to your views, but I am NOT the optimal chop today
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:56 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:58 pm
Camilla wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:53 pm
tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:45 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:12 pm Camilla has been really agreeable with most of my reads all game and is firmly wedged in the consensus town thots and it’s actually weirding me out

Should I be weirded out?
scotty is a cornered wolf trying to expand the poe

first he tried with alison now with camilla
Why expand the PoE with me and Alison since both of us still have Pyxxy/Falcon/Jack/Wilgy who are far more ML'able?

I don't get the wolf motivation behind these actions as going after both of us doesn't really feel optimal for a wolf in his position to make.
damaging ur town status in hopes other townies start getting paranoid of you. sowing chaos. the grip is tightening around scotty just like his massagist breaking every bone on his back. i dont think its an implausible wolf behavior. his partner is in those list of 4. he needs 3 mischops to win - he could win if we miss 3 times in a row but there's a world he goes to f3 too. i think its a general wolf tell to try to expand the poe by doubting obvious town. i think his tone is manipulative as fuck
I’d just do that tomorrow if I’m wolf and town falcon get ml’d

Like damn tutuu, why are you blindly trusting Camilla here? I think she’s been towny on vibe and principle, but it’s not like her votes have been a pinnacle of goodness. She had nothing to do with Porscha going over
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:53 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:49 pm he's already planting the seed of doubt in camilla

he knows falcon will flip town

"I just can’t shake this feeling.

Eh"

listen to how fucking manipulative this sounds
oof

Listen, I know you’re confirmed town and your opinion holds a lot of weight here, but

If I’m wolf, I’m fine just sleeping into a falcon chop if he’s town.

He could still very well be wolf. Hence I’m on him
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 5:52 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:47 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 4:29 pm It’s not even that tho. I just combed through your iso and there isn’t much that seems….I dunno…fresh? Does that make sense? It hasn’t been on my radar because I happen to have agreed with your reads up to this point, but when I look at it in a vacuum:
god ur such an obv wolf

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine
hmm

What purpose do i as a wolf have to even tinfoil one of the only people that have been townreading me most of the game?

Keep in mind here, I’m actually committed to being a follower on the vote today, and not leading a charge.

But not on me
by Scotty
Mon May 29, 2023 4:43 pm
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Re: [D3] Apathy Mafia

I just can’t shake this feeling.

Eh

Maybe falcon is the safer choice today

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

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