The Syndicate

Or were you just saying shit?

Urist, are you Paladin 3?

*clears throat*
Jack is outed scum

*taps mic*
Hello? Is this thing on?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:16 pm I just hate that it’s D3 and none of us have any info mech to talk about. Just that dya is a blocking god and NAA has poisoned someone in the POE.

I’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:40 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:16 pm I just hate that it’s D3 and none of us have any info mech to talk about. Just that dya is a blocking god and NAA has poisoned someone in the POE.

I’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.

you should have been told you were blocked n2

Paladin:
Level three: Heavy Attack (blocks your targets Class abilities AND the factional kill–your target is informed they were blocked, even if they used no abilities)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:42 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:37 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:34 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:29 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:26 pm @Jackofhearts2005 what actions?

Pal2 block on Sig (figured he was doing nothing helpful if town and could be doing bad shit if wolf) and then a Pal2 block on Urist. Which like isn’t a brilliant move but like I said, I don’t have any strong scumreads (except now LP).

Ok, so assuming that nobody has a roleblock to claim, there's a 2% chance that Jack is town, 98% chance that jack is mafia (the probability of 2 Fails on 85% in a row.

in the interest of not getting flamed in post i'll say i did block jack n2.

This is a good thing to claim.

Also a good look for Urist. Not a great look because maybe he’s claiming an action Dunya or Sig actually made or maybe I missed my roll but gth, I don’t think a wolf quickly fake claims this action. If wolves are going for the 4 player death by cuts strategy (and maybe they’re not but we’ll have a very good guess soon), Urist is proooobably town.

My dude… urist just claimed Paladin 3 on you

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:40 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:16 pm I just hate that it’s D3 and none of us have any info mech to talk about. Just that dya is a blocking god and NAA has poisoned someone in the POE.

I’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.

you should have been told you were blocked n2

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:23 pm There’s no reason whatsoever to make that lie as a townie.

Then again, that’s a really stupid lie to make as a wolf cause why?

There is tho. As she said, she was probably going down, so why not force the wolves to kill her so she doesn’t reveal info if sig was the one to make the kills.

This is all assuming sig is bad at all, which…I mean…he probably isn’t…

Hmm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:18 pm Like come on y’all, we need a bone thrown from someone.

I'll vote with you on the basis that you want it the most, and I've already conceded if you're wolf, just ping me when you need me to move my vote.

Don’t put me in charge, I’m middle management at best. Upper management is too much responsibility as I am basically vanilla

Like come on y’all, we need a bone thrown from someone.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:13 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:45 pm today's stupid wish is that Dya and Sig swoop in and solve the game but that's like never gonna happen

I've lready been here and blew up LP's lie

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:54 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:51 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:49 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:45 pm

I think if wolf LP had her action not go through she'd claim it rather than claim an even worse action on sig at this point. Also thinking about it it gives an excuse for no actioning the next day to.

Like, LP not actually going to sig and having lied about it makes her distinctly more towny.

I wouldn't put it past her to make up a fake action, but come on, Sig? Unless she's specifically aimming for a Sig ML on Day Four... which could be a world but I think that if Sig is town and we ML today scum has basically won at that point, or it's LYLO, one or the other

wait...what?

LP lied about visiting Sig?

yeah Dya blocked her

and confirmed she got CP and therefore her action went through? @dyachei ?

Cause if Dya catches LP in a lie, there's no reason to yeet anyone but LP or Dya today imo.

yes, i got CP, yes it was successful. LP lied about visiting/tracking sig.

Okay, then we're in a world where LP is a wolf for lying or Dya is framing LP to get a misyeet before a 5 kill night ftw.

The only important players to evaluate atp are LP and Dya. And if the aforementioned w!Dya play is even mathematically feasible. Cause if it's not, then we just yeet LP and if Dya is the wolf, at least it outs her in time to yeet her.

LP confirmed she lied, that her action didn't go through, and that Sig wasn't her original target

What’d you do last night? Anything productive?

I just hate that it’s D3 and none of us have any info mech to talk about. Just that dya is a blocking god and NAA has poisoned someone in the POE.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:13 pm NAA why does my treatment of LP's fake claim not make sense

After looking through LP’s iso, the progression here does make sense. I’m with you

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:44 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:41 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 pm I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.

I still don’t know if you’ve committed to scumreading or townreading me yet

I'm going to claim that I'm correct either way, I would have killed you D1, I'm not going to consider you for the rest of the game (you can consider this to be a pseudo town read), and if are wolf, I'll blame town for not heeding my high probability play.

That’s the biggest cop out lol

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 pm I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.

I still don’t know if you’ve committed to scumreading or townreading me yet

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:37 pm What about killing jack? Would anyone oppose that?

i think LP is more likely to be a hit at this point

I really wish I could fully townread you at this point

Time to iso you

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:36 pm Me wanting to sheep the town player I buried yesterday because I don't have any independent scumreads is like really bad but that's where we are.

That seems pretty unfortunate that you buried yourself so deeply in your one dunya wolf read that you have no other reads of your own now

What about killing jack? Would anyone oppose that?

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:31 pm we should have killed linearpoint d1

I mean…I wholeheartedly agree, but the rest of the town didn’t.

That there’s been about 3 different people that said I should have been killed D1 is just all around a bad take.

However.

It could also be inferred that if D1 wagons were v/v between me and creature, Lp and dunya could have been v/v

The only difference was the weird wagons that formed d2 across the board between tsp Wilgy dunya, naa and Lp. In the end though, too much chaos. What are the odds that all 5 of those wagons were v? Very very slim.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:14 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:46 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:06 am petit who'd you block

@Syn

why would you block your supposed top town read

anyway it didn't work so neener neener to you

Why, what did you do last night

Day 2 Wilgy: 2nd post of the day he uses to put doubt on…me? Who he chose to save. His next post is even more confusing, as he continues with the belief that of creature and me, creature was more likely wolf.
In the first post, he’s still admitting how unsure he is about dunya, but seems to be exasperated that no one will vote urist who he seems to prefer, next to…LP.
Then 8 minutes later, in his read list, he makes a clear distinction that he favors dunya over Urist when using rationality instead of emotion. Granted, this is his exact read from D1. This is the most detailed info we’ve gotten from Wilgy into his reads all game.

I’m back in his POE with some other newcomers because ???
Adds his 2 cents that NAA wagon is fine, raises red flags about me jumping wagons, and he even suggests scum are trying to save one or both of dunya/LP

Then a minute later, he jumps back on to the wagon from…Urist…and votes dunya, saying “she can’t keep getting away with this,” thus seemingly trying to save LP.


D2 isn’t as egregious as D1, because he had a suspicion duo of dunya and urist lined up already, but his waffling across the day is still with confusing energy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:32 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:00 pm Something’s not sitting right with the votes right now.
Too many hands in each other’s cookie jars. Mafia is definitely voting another mafia member right now

This seems like a very convoluted way to say one of the only 2 wagons is Scum.
And really the dynamic doesn't look different from D2.

What I’m really saying is the thread is still chaos with these vote splits, and not everyone can seriously suspect everyone. Wolves are voting somewhere for one another.

Gonna iso Wilgy and urist. Wilgy’s iso is still all over the place knowing what we know now. I said I’d get to that so I’ll do that one first

Bruh this is too much effort for me.

It's me.

You had enough of a pulse on the game to give those reads, surface level or not. But they’re all over the place in terms of logic, not just content

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 pm I’d completely forgotten the Wilgy/Scotty saga tbh

It wasn’t really a saga more than a mediocre movie and a spin-off that exec’s shouldn’t have greenlit and no one asked for

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:32 pm LP you are being far townier than last night tbh

Agreed.

Some things from Wilgy D1: In a span of 20 minutes, Wilgy made the following reads, in order:
-Scotty bad, HK good.
-“oof”, responding to Marmot saying I look towny
-Scotty is Null, on a list which had multiple wolf leans and wolf reads

Wilgy already forgot his read of me. And totally forgot to include HK in his read list, who he just called good.

Moving on: 5 hours later, he’s back retracting his dunya town read I guess.

Then he wants to save me? On account of…wagon state? But is down to chop creature because “he doesn’t feel like his lazy t, more like rand w”. He’s never talked about creature before this point.

That last quote is just smh: ‘dunya, you could be a wolf, but you’ve said some towny stuff, but you’re so good you could be a wolf, and in the end, I don’t know. God bless’

And that’s just Day 1

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:00 pm Something’s not sitting right with the votes right now.
Too many hands in each other’s cookie jars. Mafia is definitely voting another mafia member right now

This seems like a very convoluted way to say one of the only 2 wagons is Scum.
And really the dynamic doesn't look different from D2.

What I’m really saying is the thread is still chaos with these vote splits, and not everyone can seriously suspect everyone. Wolves are voting somewhere for one another.

Gonna iso Wilgy and urist. Wilgy’s iso is still all over the place knowing what we know now. I said I’d get to that so I’ll do that one first

Something’s not sitting right with the votes right now.
Too many hands in each other’s cookie jars. Mafia is definitely voting another mafia member right now

Vote Count:

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 pm NAA said some stuff about not understanding CP n0 and N1 and I believe it

So he just used Warrior 1, then put both of his available CP to make Warrior 3?






Eh. I guess I can believe it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:51 pm NAA why didn't you kill sig

More importantly…

What did NAA do N1 to successfully gain a CP to poison TSP last night?

Just digging through LP’s ISO for Day 2 mentions of her claiming Paladin. I don’t see it. But also I found this

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:23 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

This is just saying you're OK with mislynching Duyna.
And I really do not like that mentality.

Is that a scumslip?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:19 pm The good news is we have a 50/50 shot of lynching mafia today!

I think it’s close to zero

You think they’re both town?

The good news is we have a 50/50 shot of lynching mafia today!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:12 pm I blocked marmot which means by law of reciprocity marmot is required to poison heal me

Is that how it works? I poop on your porch, so by that logic I should file your taxes for you

Everyone kinda more or less agrees I’m town

oop sorry, I guess I missed that part with the everyone agreeing

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:14 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:35 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:43 am I don’t think scum LP comes out of the gate today claiming Druid Lev 2 actions. I believe she used those how she used those.

Mafia aren’t picking Druid class

I think scum LP does just that because I blocked them yesterday and they're full of shit

So You knew I was baiting Mafia into killing me, so why say it publicly that it was a bait?
Where is the town motivation in that?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:12 pm I blocked marmot which means by law of reciprocity marmot is required to poison heal me

Is that how it works? I poop on your porch, so by that logic I should file your taxes for you

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:10 pm You’re a Paladin shouldn’t you know what the thing does
Also who’d you block last bigutn

I think I’ve determined today that I’m ready to start the game and do things mechanically efficient.

I didn’t really rationally think about the potentially broken aspects of the game until today.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:10 pm Read better

Ah yeah. Good point

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:07 pm With what again

Paladin 2 aka Useless Ability 2

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:06 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:04 pm scotty i blocked you n1

Cool thanks for that

you didnt start acting villa until d2

Not denying that I was a likely block target, I just figured no one would waste a block on me.

Also like…if I’m mafia there’s no way I’m making the N1 kill with that much heat.

But I don’t scumread you for it, I’m just disappointed

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:04 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:03 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:58 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:57 pm There’s just so many hoops for a blocker to jump through. I wouldn’t automatically assume I’m blocked unless
A) I’m the most likely to be targeted for block
B) it happened to pass the succeed check

LP probably most likely to be targeted for block

Ok so

reasons for w!dya to come out with an essential red check on t!LP at start of day:

A) sewing chaos
B) force a mislynch because this is actually potentially lylo. We are autokilling dya tomorrow if she’s lying, and she knows this.
C) they are attempting save a wolf partner with votes a la TSP or NAA

I think most likely scenario is B.

B seems very likely tbh
Also Dya uses they/them pronouns ftr

Yes I did the thing and forgot and remembered for C

I’m really trying, I’m sorry dya

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:04 pm scotty i blocked you n1

Cool thanks for that

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:58 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:57 pm There’s just so many hoops for a blocker to jump through. I wouldn’t automatically assume I’m blocked unless
A) I’m the most likely to be targeted for block
B) it happened to pass the succeed check

LP probably most likely to be targeted for block

Ok so

reasons for w!dya to come out with an essential red check on t!LP at start of day:

A) sewing chaos
B) force a mislynch because this is actually potentially lylo. We are autokilling dya tomorrow if she’s lying, and she knows this.
C) they are attempting save a wolf partner with votes a la TSP or NAA

I think most likely scenario is B.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:50 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:49 pm Ok dya to br clear technically your CC doesn’t make sense and you should check it for details

I’m missing it

Wolf LP would know she was blocked same as town LP

Well, no. She would know it didn’t work.

Mine didn’t work on N1 when I targeted HK. I figured it just failed and I wasn’t blocked, but I didn’t know for sure. Still don’t.

If she used level 1 Bayes says blocked

What?

There’s just so many hoops for a blocker to jump through. I wouldn’t automatically assume I’m blocked unless
A) I’m the most likely to be targeted for block
B) it happened to pass the succeed check

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:50 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:49 pm Ok dya to br clear technically your CC doesn’t make sense and you should check it for details

I’m missing it

Wolf LP would know she was blocked same as town LP

Well, no. She would know it didn’t work.

Mine didn’t work on N1 when I targeted HK. I figured it just failed and I wasn’t blocked, but I didn’t know for sure. Still don’t.

Im coming back around on NAA town only for mech reasons.

As I said, it doesn’t make sense for mafia to poison. Ergo, he’s town with no cc.

They both have said they successfully used their actions.

Both cannot be true