The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:59 pm I’d be worried then about tess

If you’re worried about Tess, what do you make of Wilgy as her number one fan?

Current vote count:

DaughterOfOmega
1
8%
Voters: tessepia
Dolby
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gavial
0
No votes
Voters: None
Luckbox Inc
1
8%
Voters: Ruri
Marmot
1
8%
Voters: Gavial
NotAnAxehole
0
No votes
Voters: None
Poison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Ruri
1
8%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
sabie12
1
8%
Voters: Marmot
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
tessepia
2
15%
Voters: DrWilgy, NotAnAxehole
TonyStarkPrime
3
23%
Voters: Luckbox Inc, Scotty, sabie12

2.5 hours left and Dolby, DoOm and Poison still haven’t voted.

The latter is MIA, but what are the other 2 waiting for?

k

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

[VOTE: tess] aubergine

Is this better?

tessepia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:08 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:07 pm
tessepia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:39 pm Instead of trying to change the lead wagon (albeit a small wagon), why not make notes on why we should pivot from TSP?

If tsp is wolf, we’ll be swimming in a pool of nails, but I doubt it.
tsp more useful alive
In terms of usefulness, he’s outlined a pretty solid plan going forward, and as far as post count, he hasn’t been breaking the bank.

I agree that a town TSP is useful, but that’s the game. If we don’t kill him, mafia will. I’m growing less and less convinced of my town reads as the days go on as is.
why would wolves kill TSP

Who else do you see as a top consensus town lean so far?

They ain’t killing me. Maybe you.

Maybe poison because Wilgy put a crown on her head

tessepia wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:39 pm Instead of trying to change the lead wagon (albeit a small wagon), why not make notes on why we should pivot from TSP?

If tsp is wolf, we’ll be swimming in a pool of nails, but I doubt it.
tsp more useful alive

In terms of usefulness, he’s outlined a pretty solid plan going forward, and as far as post count, he hasn’t been breaking the bank.

I agree that a town TSP is useful, but that’s the game. If we don’t kill him, mafia will. I’m growing less and less convinced of my town reads as the days go on as is.

Instead of trying to change the lead wagon (albeit a small wagon), why not make notes on why we should pivot from TSP?

If tsp is wolf, we’ll be swimming in a pool of nails, but I doubt it.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:48 pm I should be PoE tomorrow tbh

meh.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:48 pm I think between Tess and TSP I'd probs vote TSP

Mainly bc I'm more afraid of Tess.

Would be open to voting Marmot or maybe Luckbox if their ISO looks ok

So you’d vote TSP over tess even though you just said you can’t remember anything TSP has posted?

What about Tess scares you?

Based on the helpings of Wilgy and marmot, they’re sparing me being NK’d tonite. Maybe I should be the lynch tomorrow just to set things straight.

What better lynch than the top poster who won’t shut up about trivial things and has probably spewed my partners at this point if I’m bad? I can think of worse lynches for town info

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:07 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:57 pm Wilgy, my therapist has told me it would be advantageous to have an open mind, and as a Taurus, I’m intrinsically stubborn when I am set on a path.

Without a flip of wolf yet, it’s all grasping at straws. I’m not fully committed to you being a wolf, despite you being the recipient of my tunnel this game.

You voting tess is something I agree with, for instance.

Without a wolf flip everything is darkness

I literally just got out of a therapy session, but my therapist told me other things, like to unravel my negative cognitions.
I just got out of a therapy session where I was the therapist.

oooh roleplay.

Spicy

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:03 pm Spec chat right now: "This isn't a mafia game, this is a f'ing chatroom."

It’s still day 1 right?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:00 pm Don't make me do it Dr
Wha happen

I am mountainous

Maybe cut back on all those carbs, my marmot

Wilgy, my therapist has told me it would be advantageous to have an open mind, and as a Taurus, I’m intrinsically stubborn when I am set on a path.

Without a flip of wolf yet, it’s all grasping at straws. I’m not fully committed to you being a wolf, despite you being the recipient of my tunnel this game.

You voting tess is something I agree with, for instance.

Without a wolf flip everything is darkness

You want my response to this?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:59 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:25 pm Just skimmed Sabie’s posts.

Not a lot there tbh. Laughy most of d1, not much substance. Shruggy, almost resigned vote on falcon at EoD. Not rocking the boat or pressing anyone.

I currently light scum read her actually, in this reread. Far from a slam dunk, but pretty blendy.

I’m unconvinced right now about how all the mafia would approach this game, so i may be a bit reachy a few posts ago saying all mafia would come into today swinging. Almost equally likely they’re fine with being middle-pack blendy. Obviously no mafia are gunning to get themselves killed. The only person I’ve seen so far saying they’d like to die is actually luckbox. Hasn’t done much today, but I still have a tentative town read on him.
This nerd calling me scum but not actually reading. Get out of here wolf.
OMGUS calling me wolf instead of just saying I have a bad read. What about me is wolf, Wilgy?
It's not a bad read. It's one that was made being uninformed and stuck to in spite of being uninformed. I.e. you are forcing it. I'd believe that the Scotty who legitimately suss's me wouldn't have missed the fact that I too have argued that it would be in mafia's favor to attempt to die hard and early.

ok

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:37 am Scotty casually ignoring my response.

what’s this now

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:45 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:39 pm Odds are, if Wilgy is bad, Poison is probably town in 9/10 simulations.
Yeah, flip me to get a read on poison ya scummer. See how that works out for you.

I don’t feel like flipping you, thanks mate.
Where did you even get your PhD? Facebook university?

okieee heres my current list, in order of least confident to lynch > cannons away

DaughterOfOmega
Wilgy
Marmot
sabie

Gavial
Ruri
Dolby

Poison
Luckbox
NAA
tess
TSP

Odds are, if Wilgy is bad, Poison is probably town in 9/10 simulations.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:57 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:43 am Oh right we win by reaching parity. So we could technically win at f5
I don't believe so. It's impossible for town to win before F3, because no matter what, there will (or at least should) be two mafia dead by the time we reach F5, meaning we need to get two town yeets in a row starting at F5.

Scum can win in F5 though, as there will be one scum, and all they have to do is get yeeted.

Is this a scumslip?

So yeah, leave me alive as much as you want. I’ll sort myself out.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:24 am Actually, everyone should probably make a list before the end of each day, that might be useful, and give us things to talk about.

Sounds good

Oh right we win by reaching parity. So we could technically win at f5

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:41 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:19 am Poison/Scotty/DrWilgy sounds like a dope mafia team. Is that the team?
Leave me alive til f3 and find out.

Actually don’t, because I feel good about those 2 being bad and we would lose

Er wait, we would..win?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:19 am Poison/Scotty/DrWilgy sounds like a dope mafia team. Is that the team?

Leave me alive til f3 and find out.

Actually don’t, because I feel good about those 2 being bad and we would lose

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:04 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:20 am I wonder if optimal play is to just vote out the lurkers. Those who post a lot should be easy to solve towards late-game. Or, we should always leave the most obvious townie in the game. Since mafia will get a free kill on their own if this is past D3, it also might be better to vote out one mafia just before that.. Prevents them from picking someone they're sure won't be voted out.
This pretty much the only post that has any content, but the other ones seem fine on tone.

I wolfed with Phraze not too long ago although don't have much insight gleaned from it. I think she's generally pretty utr and don't assume that she would be posting too hard in either role here-- so she's probably still basically rand here. But I do like the post quoted above.

Got it. So probably wait and see (tm)

Content = YEStent

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:45 am I don't see any reason for Ruri to be town, what do you see there?

As far as low posters go, it’s not terrible. Though their d1 was useless.

Hey @Luckbox Inc you’re better at rooting out town. Does Ruri look town? It’s a quick ISO

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:45 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:43 am If luckbox is wolf, his posts have been intentionally milquetoast.

Marmot is on my potential wolf list.

Ruri actually seems town to me

Aaaaaayyyyyyyy I do be howlin'

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:39 am Optimal play tomorrow: make an ordered list, chop from the top. Think then very carefully about which of their own the wolves kill. Then throw out the list

Noted. Thank you for your service, soldier

should you go over

If luckbox is wolf, his posts have been intentionally milquetoast.

Marmot is on my potential wolf list.

Ruri actually seems town to me

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:35 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:59 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:41 am I don't like Scotty at all this game, but Gaviale posting seems towny
Why is this?
Is very active, but Scotty isn't coming to OC. Seems to just repeat a scum read someone else has given, my assumption was as mafia he is just waiting for town to give a bad read and then reinforces it.
You seem to be implying I’m not making reads on my own, which is hilarious because I can’t remember any original reads you have provided thus far
Isn't this an original read you are replying to?

:hmm:

I can’t remember.

So in summary, you don’t like me (which I assume means you think I’m scum and not just making a dart board with my face as the bullseye in your parlor) and gavial is towny.

Got any other thoughts on people?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:51 pm Note to hosts, never try to fix a mistake / gameplay-related thing with an in-game post... I think this confirms Scotty as town, right? (I mean he's been angleshooting all day pretty much)

Wait, what angleshooting?

You with all this angleshooting talk. I don’t even understand what you’re talking about

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:37 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:24 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:16 pm Would love other input on this:
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:31 am Unless I missed something, we don’t know how many mafia there are in this game do we?

15 mountainous would be basically 3 v 12 right? Or would 4 v 11 make more sense?

And using NAA’s own strategy, I wouldn’t be against even voting him d3 if we haven’t lynched a mafia yet. If he’s a powerwolf, they’ll have to regroup. If he’s good, we celebrate with hot pockets and apple sauce
Also, using this strategy I think Tessepia is a better kill than Scotty.
On d3 you mean?

And how many mafia do you think there are?
These are Mickey Mouse questions.

Looks like Walt Disney himself answered

But gawrsh, thanks for the comment

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:24 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:16 pm Would love other input on this:
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:31 am Unless I missed something, we don’t know how many mafia there are in this game do we?

15 mountainous would be basically 3 v 12 right? Or would 4 v 11 make more sense?

And using NAA’s own strategy, I wouldn’t be against even voting him d3 if we haven’t lynched a mafia yet. If he’s a powerwolf, they’ll have to regroup. If he’s good, we celebrate with hot pockets and apple sauce
Also, using this strategy I think Tessepia is a better kill than Scotty.

On d3 you mean?

And how many mafia do you think there are?

Would love other input on this:

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:31 am Unless I missed something, we don’t know how many mafia there are in this game do we?

15 mountainous would be basically 3 v 12 right? Or would 4 v 11 make more sense?

And using NAA’s own strategy, I wouldn’t be against even voting him d3 if we haven’t lynched a mafia yet. If he’s a powerwolf, they’ll have to regroup. If he’s good, we celebrate with hot pockets and apple sauce

tessepia wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:08 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:07 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:43 pm @Scotty I think the appropriate scum strat is to just kill off townies all day every day, and leave an ambiguous finale? I think it's basically impossible for mafia to win this otherwise barring a ridiculous performance by ALL members of the mafia?

The issue for mafia is they all have to die right? So N3 & N5 have to be used to kill off scum players who suck, voting out the good scum players during the day is just bad play for mafia and probably the only way they lose.
Huh, somehow I missed the part in the rules where scum can kill their own if they haven’t yet by n3. That’s mighty interesting. I wonder if they’ve thought out their operating strategy, or are just flying by the seat of their pants.

I can’t quite wrap my head around the optimal kill. Like if everyone and their mother thinks Wilgy is bad, and he is, he should be the one to die n3 I guess. Or not, just for WIFOM. I dunno. I’m bad at NK strategy, because I do stuff that makes sense to my pea brain, and not what the majority of people would think. Probably.

So I’ll sheep your strategy in that
NAA is kinda wolfy idk why you town read them

If he’s town, he’s a good town voice. I think the discrepancy is his operating under a level of game awareness that I don’t quite understand but sounds logical.

If he’s wolf, he’s still offering things to the table. He’s also one of the most vocal, so if he’s bad, the more he talks the more we can analyze later.

Note that I’d rather vote luckbox, tsp or even you before NAA right now. Out of those 4, he is the one most likely to be a powerwolf. But I’m fine with looking elsewhere right now.

tessepia wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:03 pm EoD is tomorrow right?

Yeah, looks to be abbreviated and back on schedule at 9p est

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:43 pm @Scotty I think the appropriate scum strat is to just kill off townies all day every day, and leave an ambiguous finale? I think it's basically impossible for mafia to win this otherwise barring a ridiculous performance by ALL members of the mafia?

The issue for mafia is they all have to die right? So N3 & N5 have to be used to kill off scum players who suck, voting out the good scum players during the day is just bad play for mafia and probably the only way they lose.

Huh, somehow I missed the part in the rules where scum can kill their own if they haven’t yet by n3. That’s mighty interesting. I wonder if they’ve thought out their operating strategy, or are just flying by the seat of their pants.

I can’t quite wrap my head around the optimal kill. Like if everyone and their mother thinks Wilgy is bad, and he is, he should be the one to die n3 I guess. Or not, just for WIFOM. I dunno. I’m bad at NK strategy, because I do stuff that makes sense to my pea brain, and not what the majority of people would think. Probably.

So I’ll sheep your strategy in that

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:25 pm Just skimmed Sabie’s posts.

Not a lot there tbh. Laughy most of d1, not much substance. Shruggy, almost resigned vote on falcon at EoD. Not rocking the boat or pressing anyone.

I currently light scum read her actually, in this reread. Far from a slam dunk, but pretty blendy.

I’m unconvinced right now about how all the mafia would approach this game, so i may be a bit reachy a few posts ago saying all mafia would come into today swinging. Almost equally likely they’re fine with being middle-pack blendy. Obviously no mafia are gunning to get themselves killed. The only person I’ve seen so far saying they’d like to die is actually luckbox. Hasn’t done much today, but I still have a tentative town read on him.
This nerd calling me scum but not actually reading. Get out of here wolf.

OMGUS calling me wolf instead of just saying I have a bad read. What about me is wolf, Wilgy?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:35 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:59 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:41 am I don't like Scotty at all this game, but Gaviale posting seems towny
Why is this?
Is very active, but Scotty isn't coming to OC. Seems to just repeat a scum read someone else has given, my assumption was as mafia he is just waiting for town to give a bad read and then reinforces it.
You seem to be implying I’m not making reads on my own, which is hilarious because I can’t remember any original reads you have provided thus far

As an addendum: I agree with NAA that I would like to hear more from you. This is not me with my mind made up, but going on what you’ve given

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:59 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:41 am I don't like Scotty at all this game, but Gaviale posting seems towny
Why is this?
Is very active, but Scotty isn't coming to OC. Seems to just repeat a scum read someone else has given, my assumption was as mafia he is just waiting for town to give a bad read and then reinforces it.

You seem to be implying I’m not making reads on my own, which is hilarious because I can’t remember any original reads you have provided thus far

I just realized town’s success in this game hinges on people playing to their best town game ability. So those sitting around with their thumbs up their butts will be ok for now, but towards end of game if we’re having to decide between the zodiac killer, the ghost of Elvis and my childhood friend Bryan’s dad who left him in the 2nd grade, we gon have a hard time

tessepia wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:20 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:43 am
tessepia wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:29 am
tessepia wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:05 am
Sonny wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:58 am This set up make me feel weird in a fun way. I warn y’all now, I will probably still fight against being yeeted, it’s compulsive. Ego fail.

Also, everyone knows the most murdery place is an outback Aussie town.
wolfy
Agreed.

I also disagree with Wilgy. Where he calls Poison supatown, I call stronger scum read.
why are you wolf reading them
The birds went tweedly dee and gave me the signal
I'm just calling you a wolf and moving them

lol I remember reading this like 10 times and questioning what you were talking about.

But with you admitting you had me confused with sonny gives severe credence to that, and I townread you right now. I don’t believe a wolftess would have made that error or corrected themself.

I could lynch Tess today

Just skimmed Sabie’s posts.

Not a lot there tbh. Laughy most of d1, not much substance. Shruggy, almost resigned vote on falcon at EoD. Not rocking the boat or pressing anyone.

I currently light scum read her actually, in this reread. Far from a slam dunk, but pretty blendy.

I’m unconvinced right now about how all the mafia would approach this game, so i may be a bit reachy a few posts ago saying all mafia would come into today swinging. Almost equally likely they’re fine with being middle-pack blendy. Obviously no mafia are gunning to get themselves killed. The only person I’ve seen so far saying they’d like to die is actually luckbox. Hasn’t done much today, but I still have a tentative town read on him.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:01 pm Where is Queen Poison? Towniest town this side of the cosmos?

I’m still waiting for her town flag to be planted. You as her court jester is amusing tho

tessepia wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:29 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:29 am
tessepia wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:05 am
Sonny wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:58 am This set up make me feel weird in a fun way. I warn y’all now, I will probably still fight against being yeeted, it’s compulsive. Ego fail.

Also, everyone knows the most murdery place is an outback Aussie town.
wolfy
Agreed.

I also disagree with Wilgy. Where he calls Poison supatown, I call stronger scum read.
I just realized that all day 1 I thought Scotty and Sonny were the same and I was wolf reading Scotty for sonny's posts, and also thought he agreed to his own posts being wolfy

Oh right I also don’t feel good about poison.

Ruri is also playing this game I think,

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:10 pm For anyone who hasn't understood the strategy for this game:

D1: Useless towny kill
D2: Useless towny kill
D3: PoE Kill
D4: towny kill (let's not make too much of a fuss over it)
D5: PoE kill

The objective is to kill someone we're unsure on preceding each night where mafia would otherwise get to kill their weakest link... So really, anyone who's not onboard with this and/or isn't going to have a PoE ready for tomorrow can die today. (Must also be towny)

ok I can see Sabie and this strategy. I just feel obviously less sure with people the less they post. But I’d Sheep you if need be

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:56 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:47 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:41 am I don't like Scotty at all this game, but Gaviale posting seems towny
Stating the obvious?
Which is obvious? That gav’s post seem towny or that she doesn’t like me
Yeah, which makes me wonder why Gav is choosing this interaction (with you)... Maybe I have it backward.

I'll have to read the thread (probably N2 if I'm not dispatched today).

Well Gav is probably engaging with me because I’m engaging with him and he just wants to be involved. This hot potato game he’s suggesting is probably NAI but it also screams ‘I want to appear like I’m being productive’

Not scum reading him right now, but he’s not super town to me yet.

I feel like wolves probably feel a need to be a bit more vocal today since that seems to be the way we’re lynching. I’m still wary of Wilgy, and…honestly, even marmot.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:47 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:41 am I don't like Scotty at all this game, but Gaviale posting seems towny
Stating the obvious?

Which is obvious? That gav’s post seem towny or that she doesn’t like me

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:47 am Scotty so instead of dodging my question how about you answer and pass it on yeah?

I don’t feel like playing your pass it on game- I’d rather play red rover or (god forbid) roshambo

Anyway, like I said yesterday- and they have changed-

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:18 pm Feelin good about NAA, falcon, Luckbox, TSP, Sloon

I’m good with NAA, luck or tsp today.

Read dolby as town for the little posts they made towards eod, but less sure about them right now.

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