The Syndicate

Oh, we’re you talking to marmot?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:30 pm craft a legacy sir

Nah.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:29 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:27 pm In other news I never had a curse, but I’m glad I was able to get discussion going.

Sort of.
If I had 500 posted would you have been able to keep up? Would you have tried?

I’m getting close to 1k in the thread so I probably would have petered off a bit once I reached it.

I don’t believe in spam posting the thread*

*too much

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:28 pm also wolves have extra voting power and decide ties so we might just be flat screwed tomorrow

I fear they haven’t used all the shots on the razor.

Matter of fact, if they felt they weren’t sure, why shoot if you get more power the more artifacts you have? They might still have 3, and I don’t know what the fuck that means.

In other news I never had a curse, but I’m glad I was able to get discussion going.

Sort of.

Marmot is claiming he has the same negative shrine ability as Mac, and not of this one.
Which of those do you think is the “powerful” one?

Alison had this one for peryite: “ Peryite - You begin the following Day with -1 vote against you in the poll. Any votes cast by players against you cannot be worth more than 1.”

I do not have that one so I’m of no help

Can anyone else with a peryite shrine confirm or deny they have something different than the “delay” ability?

*going to chaos and gaining a pretty present I should have said

Alternatively, Marmot going to chaos and also his peryite shrine matching Mac’s has me in a tizzle

But if we don’t do this we’ll all be doing the same thing tomorrow

Sigh.

I feel less good about voting Marmot.

Once again.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble
That's not what Hermaus Mora did for Kza.

When shrines have different powers between players, one tends to be “powerful” while the other is..like...learning what kind of boots they’re wearing.
KZA’s shrine gave them a 1 shit random ability. This one...makes sense or at least lines up with my theory, because that ability is ass

I think marmot is telling the truth here on that one at least

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
i can confirm that that's what hermaus mora does if that's the trouble

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:42 pm Here's my night actions

Night 1 - Mephala - target Telvanni Wizard role - they can go to Hermaus Mora, target a player, and learn about a shrine they can/can't access
Night 2 - Clavicus - I checked Daisy's race
Night 3 - Peryite - Delayed Mac's shrine CD refresh by a day
Night 4 - Sheogorath - Received a 1-shot ability
Night 5 - Vaermina - Learned a Scotty ability
Huh
I am having an immediate negative reaction to the night one part of this claim.
am i in like a time machine here

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:57 pm don't try it though

Awwww you got me, I was drafting a real ZINGER

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:16 pm Daisy I’ll pay you a gold coin if you take a break and then come back with the names of two wolves

You never offered me a gold coin

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:24 pm last I checked it was me who sussed falcon and monkey.

and everyone saying nah, they is probably town.

Can you point me to where you “sussed falcon”

Honest question, I just couldn’t find it in your ISO

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:03 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:01 pm Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.
Interesting that you posted a full rainbow list before reading the whole thread.

I'm not going to read every post in this game (I skipped a lot from Days 1-2), nor am I going to let that stop me from offering reads.

What is your concern with it?

Justification of my confirmation bias for voting you

Also it’s been a rather...uh...”lively” isn’t the right word here...verbose day. Eod be damned, I’m just tired and ready for this day to be over

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:52 pm I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:

Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

If it’s not you, it’s probably LC tbh

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:02 pm Oh, actually I did see that, I just completely forgot about it lol

Ah, and yet he’s still a strong mafia to you?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:01 pm Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.

Interesting that you posted a full rainbow list before reading the whole thread.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:58 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:54 pm I don’t know what this means or why you're pinging me so many times
Story of the game.

Fixed the full quote for you

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:52 pm I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:

Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

Do you think LC’s role reveal is a gambit designed to reward him townie points?

Oh she also moved her vote to no vote some time

Yo. Moving votes around without transparency in thread is sus

And once again Daisy entered thread to call out anyone sussing her and not commenting at all on the game state.

Lol Daisy if you finished reading his posts you would see he retracted that after looking into it

If marmot flips 3P, does that reset everyone’s expectations?

I could go back to voting MR lol

But I just gotta know Marmot

Do we think mafia have to declare if they want to use the volendrung that phase by a particular player? I’m confused how that is supposed to work

@Master Radishes why haven’t you voted yet?

Also knowing that mafia still have the volendrung between the 2 of them...I would assume they wouldn’t want to keep the votes close so as to expose themselves. Though I’m looking at the wording for the razor and it says

Artifacts possessed by the Mafia team may be accessed by any member of the team during any phase. However, no player may access multiple Artifact abilities at the same time, and no Artifact may be accessed by multiple players at the same time

Which leads me to believe that we won’t destroy these until the last mafia is killed

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:12 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:07 pm Granted MR could still be bad, since all we know is that he’s claimed he strong armed your power last night.

Which, like, is already questionable, since what we know with your power is that you do things sporadically if you can afford them.

Ugh
Tbh I don't even fully know Tim's role. I could strong arm someone, visit chaos, or some other useless thing where like I reset people's actions if they visit the same shrine as me. I just picked the most useful sounding one and chose the person who was consensus town even though it wasn't me consensus.

You only have 3 actions available today? Dubious, but ok

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:16 pm In my experience, if someone is wagoned multiple days but never quite goes over but also is never mech cleared, they tend to be a wolf.

But that's context depending and I don't know the context of Marmot wagons prior to my entrance.

I do sorta feel Marmot would, iunno, do more as scum. But what do I know I took an arrow to the knee.

I feel like I’ve played equal games with marmot as scum and town, and can never tell the difference. He has said this game that when he rolls scum he tends to have more fun, but I feel like his detachment from this game is NAI because he’s also hosting a game.

Granted MR could still be bad, since all we know is that he’s claimed he strong armed your power last night.

Which, like, is already questionable, since what we know with your power is that you do things sporadically if you can afford them.

Ugh

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:03 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:36 am Kyle was on the Falcon wagon d1, another good look for him.

Among the 9 Moghedien voters, two are confirmed mafia (Mac and LM). Others include Gavial, Marmot (self-pres), Scotty, Tim, Daisy.

Among the 7 Marmot voters, one is confirmed mafia (falcon) and the other is suspected mafia (MR). Others include Kyle and TSP (both very likely town).

If MR isn't mafia, then the Marmot wagon only had one wolf on it fmpov. On the contrary, the Moghedien wagon seems to have a bunch of them. We have two confirmed wolves on it and 5/9 of the voters still haven't flipped.

This points to Marmot being mafia with the wolves piling away from his wagon, unless MR is a wolf. And even then, you could argue that. The reason I asked about the vote order is because DaisyCloud and Mac's votes appear last on the Moghedien wagon. With Mac being a flipped wolf and Daisy being a suspected wolf, this looks like an evident save when viewed this way. This point is meaningless with the poll not showing votes in order, though.

LC voteparking on Gavial there actually makes me think he's 100% town if Marmot is mafia. But that's only if Marmot is mafia.

Day 4 wagon on Marmot looks remarkably pure. We have Tim (un CC'd vig), Made (flipped V), Scotty (likely V). The only two people I think could be wolves on the Falcon wagon (6 votes) are Marmot and DaisyCloud. Falcon and LM, both wolves, didn't even bother to vote Marmot to save their partner.

I think this might be telling. If wagons are W/W, it doesn't really matter to these two which wolf flips. Falcon not self-pressing is a bad look for Marmot and LM not voting to tie the wagons is yet another bad look on Marmot. There is nothing to lose for LM by voting Marmot and putting the wagons up to rand. Except in a world where it literally doesn't matter, since a wolf dies regardless and you might as well not vote.

Day 5 was really just a LM dunk in the making and I wouldn't clear anyone for voting there.
This is a very important post.

Got me to switch tbh

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 12:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:51 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:31 am @Long Con @Timsup2nothin
What we doin boys

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:36 pm I will vote Radishes or Gavial, or even Kyle or Marmot if things swing one of those ways. I don't see myself voting Tim, Daisy, Tony, or Scotty. I am voting for Vulgard.

She will you know if things are swinging a particular way?

I tarzan’d on the Marmot vine- I can pass it back your way so you can take that vine too. Or you can sit on the Vulgard tree. I’m flexible, just want my orders

She= how

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:51 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:31 am @Long Con @Timsup2nothin
What we doin boys

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:36 pm I will vote Radishes or Gavial, or even Kyle or Marmot if things swing one of those ways. I don't see myself voting Tim, Daisy, Tony, or Scotty. I am voting for Vulgard.

She will you know if things are swinging a particular way?

I tarzan’d on the Marmot vine- I can pass it back your way so you can take that vine too. Or you can sit on the Vulgard tree. I’m flexible, just want my orders

@Long Con @Timsup2nothin
What we doin boys

Gavial make sure you say you vote marmot

If Daisy is mafia, she’s set up some damning parameters for future games- because she’s committed to the unbreakable vow that she would never bus a teammate as bad (which btw I think is a poor strategy long term, but sometimes you gotta hold your integrity where you hold it so I can’t fault her for having these principles).

If she does that this game, I dare say no one will ever take her seriously with future claims.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:58 am I think MR could still be mafia but I'm convincing myself to vote Marmot instead.

Waiting for more people to pop in.

I currently think Mr is more mafia than you, if that rests your mind at ease.

Not that I see you jonesing

I don’t remember anything marmot has said this game. He mostly asks questions, and my memory of his reads were inconclusive. But he has so many posts. You’d think someone with that many posts would be a driving force of some kind.

I’ve said before, the only reason I’m not scum reading marmot is that he’s been such a viable train for so many days, how could mafia let that happen?
But Vulgard is right, maybe they have just been inept at NOT making that happen, and it is what it is

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

My headspace isn’t large enough to get there today. I have a big project that’s come up suddenly so my time is going to be more limited than usual.

Gavial, why aren’t you voting your top scum read

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:18 am I mean I guess it could explain Daisy’s Un logical push on me.
But if Daisy is scum they are the most AtE Douche scum I’ve ever played with.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:18 am Like they appealed to emotion WAY too hard this game.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:58 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:58 am Maybe a death sentence for my brain cells
Only if you keep engaging.

I get on this site in this corner of the internet to avoid trolls, but they find me. They find me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:54 am Recalcitrant

Say that 3 times and the ghost of Lindsey Lohan will haunt you forever

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