The Syndicate

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LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
You tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part of
The Resistance to putting LP over.
You need to stop fucking pussyfooting and commit to a goddamn read or point of view or anything.
You've done nothing all day but shift reads and deflect all criticism.
You cannot unironically ever think what you are doing is in any way helping the Town. You're just painting yourself as scum and pushing for multiple mislynches.

I take responsibly for my shifting reads. I ain’t Serena Williamsing this shit.
I’ve wanted you dead since midway through D1. That hasn’t changed, my read on you hasn’t changed.

Meanwhile, other people are also tunneling elsewhere and are choosing to save you or not.

I will acknowledge that you could be town. But that’s only on wagons being so stagnant. If you are mafia, it takes a cursory glance to search and see who has been actively either shielding you or ignoring your wagon entirely.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
if it's w/w wagons the other wolves are busing one or both of them.

But not committing to one.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.
It’s because they have no leg to stand on.

If you think for a second that I am actually wolf at this point in the game, you’re not paying attention. I’ve been actively bleeding my frustrations and I don’t think I could actively replicate these posts as mafia.
I somewhat agree

Do you have a coherent view of the game
Not really, no. I expressed my desire to hammer about 24 hours ago, and the longer we talk and have yea the more I want to turn over tables

Yea = tea

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.
It’s because they have no leg to stand on.

If you think for a second that I am actually wolf at this point in the game, you’re not paying attention. I’ve been actively bleeding my frustrations and I don’t think I could actively replicate these posts as mafia.
I somewhat agree

Do you have a coherent view of the game

Not really, no. I expressed my desire to hammer about 24 hours ago, and the longer we talk and have yea the more I want to turn over tables

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
Who is trying to tie the wagons?
Scotty, Possibly
Do you even read this game.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
That is overly defensive and shifting blame for someone who objectively has been switching wagons all day long.
You continue to slip further into the firm obvious scum category.

Damn right I’m overly defensive. I perfectly see the narrative that you are forming here your drum up. Where was this verve 24 hours ago when you had 6 votes?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do

You tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part of
The Resistance to putting LP over.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:31 pm Alright time for mass analysis.

Easy stuff out of the way.
Scotty and TSP are so obvious mafia it's not even funny. But I have a strange feeling they will not be lynched until day 4 minimum.
Marmot and HK are probably the only two people putting in an effort into this game that feel genuine and are pretty obvi Town.
Duyna is probably Town do to multiple odd wagonomics pointing towards Mafia!Duyna as an unlikely scenario.
Syn always shares an alignment with Duyna, so probably Town.

Difficult things.
Wilgy and NAA are impossible to read as they are doing a lot of their normal NAI stuff.
Sig still hasn't posted, so yeah...
Dya feels like they are in their scum meta atm. Pretty similar progressions to reads and approach to wagons as in GoC.
petit's votes and reads are really odd. I cannot tell their alignment easily as I haven't played with them. Could go either way with a scumlean.
Jack I've been trying to get a better read on today but I'm still equally as lost as i was early today when it came to reading him. I'm thinking Town, but their reasoning for reads isn't very good.
Urist feels Town since D1 and my confidence in this read has been steadily growing all of D2.
Dolby also feels a bit more like Town. They at least feel somewhat genuine, though I would be lying if I said I really was able to read their posts. They frankly go in one ear and out the other.

It’s posts like these that make me keep wanting you gone before anyone else.

[VOTE: LP] aubergine

I can’t shake this feeling

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.
A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

It’s because they have no leg to stand on.

If you think for a second that I am actually wolf at this point in the game, you’re not paying attention. I’ve been actively bleeding my frustrations and I don’t think I could actively replicate these posts as mafia.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:14 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:13 pm Concerning that I think Dunya doesn’t have any obvious partners on the LP wagon

I thought Scotty was one?

He can’t keep his reads together it’s fine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
Who is trying to tie the wagons?
Scotty, Possibly

Do you even read this game.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:37 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:36 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:30 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:29 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:02 am
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:20 am if linearpoint is a wolf, why is she not trying to save herself while there's so much contention for top wagon?
dunya/lp w/w clearly
ur face is a wolf Dolb (explain this to me like I am 5 - which I am actually)
dunya and lp have been not crossed and have been exploring multiple others options than each other. I view these options as opportunistic as they are somehow the only other places with even a modicum of outside support
DOn't you think one of them would have been majed for cred in that world?
it's kinda hard to for Dunya when she commited to a TR

LP wasn't present enough to have the chance, and also committed to a Dunya TR later anyway

I don’t remember what the votes were like when she called LP town. If it was early on, I see this scenario, but if it were later, less so

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:21 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:19 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:17 pm Actualyl I might amend the Mafia list I made.
Sig is such a wildcard they could be Mafia.
take on Wilgy?

Why are the rest of us town?
I mean Jack, TSP, and Scotty all have played this day pertty scummy.
They've been doing their best to switch wagons at opportune times to keep the vote counts even.
I really cannot see them being Town. Maybe 1, (Jack most likely to not be Mafia of those 3)
Dya is also played the exact same as GoC which she was Mafia.
Wilgy has always been mislynch bait so no.

Well that’s just not true RE: me. I’ve talked as infinitum about how I’m ready to just push someone over. It’s everyone else that keeps getting cold feet. You’re gesticulating like you’ve been around to watch the madness of this day unfold.

And going back to your post a few posts prior- you think this is one of your Towniest games? Really?

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:06 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:04 pm You made a triangle. That ain't a linearpoint.
Though to be fair I'm also 90% sure with my knowledge of math that is impossible.
what is a point, if not a line we're looking at from the wrong direction?

Interesting

Also hi welcome back.

What say you about the thread state? I could be your friend in these dark days

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:04 pm You made a triangle. That ain't a linearpoint.
Though to be fair I'm also 90% sure with my knowledge of math that is impossible.

You are a paradox

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:00 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:59 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:57 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:53 am
I'm actually honored to finally be in one of these but I must admit that I don't know who everyone represents
You’re the one in the middle
can I get like actual unironic who is what for the corners and Alice?
actually I only know myself, marmot, urist, and tsp here and don't know the rest

Top right is axe, top left is HK, middle right is Duneya, bottom is Linear

This is the most I’ve ever switched votes in a phase, let alone a game.

This must be what it feels like to be a fair weather Mets fan

I’m a leaf
Watch me naynay in the breeze

[VOTE: LP] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:56 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:40 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:38 am ftr dunya flipped her lid at start of d2 after she got a few votes.

TSP and jack have been hard going for her since then. If dunya flips wolf, I contend that this was a hellbus ploy the whole time for cred
i agree with this. jack and tsp look bad for the dunya push regardless of her alignment.
I have the complete opposite take. If dunya flips wolf jack and tsp look far better than they currently do

Does my theory not hold up at all tho? The timing would be perfect for the change in behavior

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:53 am
I'm actually honored to finally be in one of these but I must admit that I don't know who everyone represents

You’re the one in the middle

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine
ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine
If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10
that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v
what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w
It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

I’ve seen you think both of them should go over today.

What is your current stance? More likely to hit a wolf in…?

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:52 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:50 am what's the thread take on marmot
marmot is an enigma
the fact that nobody's been talking about him one way or another is >rand scum.
even in the talks about "who looks bad for pushing dunya", marmot's name doesn't come up.

I have him as neutral good, but it’s only been a gut thing.

ftr dunya flipped her lid at start of d2 after she got a few votes.

TSP and jack have been hard going for her since then. If dunya flips wolf, I contend that this was a hellbus ploy the whole time for cred

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Sigh [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine
ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

You never switched your vote to LP btw

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am If Dunya or LP flip wolf I actively would want Wilgy alive

I also think that if Dunya flips town Scotty looks good from EoD1 wagon dynamics surrounding the rising of the Dunya flashwagon. Dunya is probably a reach wagon for wolves if that flash wasn't pure and they'd instead probably would concentrate on just saving Scotty rather than creating Dunya's wagon

I firmly believe Dunya and Lp are aligned

I almost always advocate for people to bus me if I’m crashing on D1 ftr
No one saves this dog

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine
ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am Disclaimer: AtE is not inherently bad, only excessive AtE is.

And I combed through her MtG scum game and didn’t see excessive AtE, only bits and pieces.

I was looking for similarities between this game and her scum game then, but it’s marred by the fact that Wilgy posted a red check at top of D2. Her wim never faltered, she had some moments like I posted with brief AtE but overall I do feel like this game is a different type of game.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.
i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded

I dunno about AtE but I had this in my drafts I didn’t post yesterday that I just remembered I had:

Just gonna drop these here:

dunya wrote: i joined this game to have fun with my friends, i really wanted to play a laid back game where i didn't take control of any narrative, formed reads and maybe for once in my life actually sheeped others who i townread instead.

so i'm gonna do that and if it's gets me yeeted, yolo

dunya wrote: either state a case or kindly get off my ass. at this point, you're probably >rand mafia for not seeing the role hints i dropped you and you're not gonna keep me in the poe cos it suits you. go swim in the ocean and catch some other fishies or kill me at night pls and release me from this game.

dunya wrote: i think i give up on ever being easily town read by syndicate people lol

why can't i have someone who town reads me as easily as HK townread jack?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:12 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:00 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:10 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:08 am This game is frustrating me to no end

you're a bad person
You're right, I need to stop partially explaining to people how the sausage is made.

I got another one for your to parse if you’d be so kind:
Monkey Island

I think just more sample sizes would help me figure this put

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:11 am I made a case for wolf!Creature on Day 1 around the same time as dunya did, so it's amusing to see the contrast that Day 2 has brought to each of us.

Dunya has asked to die on that sword for the both of you, per her own wishes

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:09 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:08 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:07 am Oh also HK is town never rescinding
Hard disagree, mainly because hk hasn't been very contrarian this game, which is what I normally expect from him.
I think, from my perspective, his reads have almost mirrored mine throughout the game.

If I’m pocketed, gg

On the flip side, maybe my reads are entirely wrong

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:08 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:07 am Oh also HK is town never rescinding
Hard disagree, mainly because hk hasn't been very contrarian this game, which is what I normally expect from him.

I think, from my perspective, his reads have almost mirrored mine throughout the game.

If I’m pocketed, gg

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:07 am let's not kill dunya

Because you had a vision in your dreams last night?
Why not dunya

Oh also HK is town never rescinding

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:05 am hard on sheeting

I trust autistic with my life

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am A better rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Wilgy (largely a gamestate read that could change if Dunya is town)
LP (also a gamestate read that could change a LOT if Dunya is town because there is one compelling reason to scumread her, that she's not obviously town on her own merits)
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot because I don't think all of my oranges are wolves)
Dya (as does this one for the same reason)
Scotty
Dunia
Is your SR of me directly correlated to dunia flipping bad?

Why am I specifically bad in your eyes?
It's largely based on your treatment of Dunya and vice versa.

If Dunya was town, I still think you've had some unnatural sounding play that would put you in the high oranges.

That’s fair

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:04 am I'm seeing Urist and TSP come up more and I'm just meh to their existence

But what does that mean in this game state?
Meh townies?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:03 am If this page has told me anything, it's that elim'ing dunia today, even if we're wrong, would be extremely beneficial.

Yeah

Too many people hardshielding or hard on sheeting her

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am A better rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Wilgy (largely a gamestate read that could change if Dunya is town)
LP (also a gamestate read that could change a LOT if Dunya is town because there is one compelling reason to scumread her, that she's not obviously town on her own merits)
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot because I don't think all of my oranges are wolves)
Dya (as does this one for the same reason)
Scotty
Dunia
In fact, all of my light greens and oranges are placed largely based on the certainty of my Dunia wolfread. A lot of stuff changes if she happens to be town, though I'm pretty damn sure she isn't.

We’ll that’s pretty lazy ngl

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am A better rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Wilgy (largely a gamestate read that could change if Dunya is town)
LP (also a gamestate read that could change a LOT if Dunya is town because there is one compelling reason to scumread her, that she's not obviously town on her own merits)
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot because I don't think all of my oranges are wolves)
Dya (as does this one for the same reason)
Scotty
Dunia

Is your SR of me directly correlated to dunia flipping bad?

Why am I specifically bad in your eyes?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:58 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 am HK will you marry me
no sorry. I swore off marriage in 2013

It’s ok
My wife doesn’t believe in polyamorous relationships anyway

HK will you marry me

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am But Jack! You didn't include Wilgy

Or LP

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:32 am Like holy balls TSP is the 5th highest poster and I don’t remember anything he’s said besides ‘dunya is bad’
This is honestly part of why Tony is always town, here.

As a wolf, I feel like Tony meanders a lot, blending in by not being blendy, if that makes sense. He's focused, here. He truly thinks he has correct reads on Dunya and myself. Wolf Tony doesn't have those surefire reads, especially on two players that are notoriously hard to yeet, where the flexibility of his vote could make a big difference in how the day goes.

I am by no means a TonyStakPrime expert, but for someone’s mafia game to be pared down to 0’s and 1’s in that he “never has surefire reads” is pretty blasé. I would think wolf Tony could change up his game to a better extent than that

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