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Dyson is playing more or less as silly as he was as my partner in Bonk. It’s actually hard to read because he seemed pretty green in and out of the game and I don’t know what his town game looks like.
More of a tinfoil. I’m not saying that this is the case, but we shouldn’t clear LC for anything just in caseRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:55 am I will reread LC later but does anyone else (Other than @Scotty , if I am reading him right and if I am wrong please correct me) think LC + Seanzie wagons were w/w?
Thing is, when I’m looking at teammate equity, it’s prettt common for even town to not have pertinent interactions with the dead wolf. This could be the case, so I’m not going to press that point as much as the others, but when push came to shove towards EoD you made a point that you didn’t know who to vote, seemed to cherry pick some of Seanzie’s votes, call it town, and go sip on your Tom Collins in your hammock afterwards.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:56 amScotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:36 am Ilario 2 hours before end of day:Ok, so he ilario hasn’t talked much about either Lime or Seanzie, except for asking Lime earlier why he suspected Seanzie. There was no follow up, so we really don’t know what ilario thinks of Seanzie.ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:59 pm Idk how I feel about these wagons. Both main wagons feel almost too relaxed(?) for either to be mafia so I don’t feel good on voting either rn...but yeah idk I’m not familiar with either player so maybe this could just be a playstyle difference. My main issue is I don’t really have a better alternative on who we should vote so yeah, That being said I’m just gonna throw a random vanity vote for potential post game credit based on no real reasoning at all.
[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Except here, where it’s not who’s on the chopping block, but rather the ‘relaxed’ feeling of the EoD.
Then 1 min later, the very next post:Someone already had these posts queued up and ready to send to the Washington Post. Just sticks up his finger with this aside to call Seanzie town, fwiwiwiwiw
And back on to tsp who, yesterday, was lamenting the wagon on Seanzie. Easy target, because ‘obv wolf was obv trying to save his partner’. It’s too easy.
I see ilario with plenty of scum equity here
I was surprised nobody brought this up earlier. Yeah I get it looks bad. I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through. I felt like the elim yesterday was more or less going to be upto rand.
I don’t look at meta, because I don’t know him, so whatever he normally does as town isn’t appealing.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:47 amFirst of all there's 1 reason. This is something that's scummy in a vacuum but Illario just votes off leading wagons often as town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:25 am Still townreading Illario. His EOD is typically town him. Feel as though he would actually be voting on wagons to force things to go his way whether it was bus Sean for cred or kill me if he was mafia since it's difficult to ML me, so he'd probably take the opportunity to get me out.
Vague answer just feels towny overall. His reads flow pretty well, he typically tries to find a wolf that can go far as town, which sorta goes with his Alison shade during Day 1.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:30 amwalk me through your sources for the maths?
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:34 pmSeanzie has felt more appeasing than in his town games.ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:31 pmWhy?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.
Rondo is over-playing his meme-nature.
I could be jumping at shadows but Seanzie feels non-standard and I feel like Rondo is playing into what he knows I'll townread so for that reason I think he's scum.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:05 am Because there is a chance you're town and honestly it feels like town game from you. You're just wrong and thats ok. But again this is all prepositioned with the fact that I havent brained yet. So I reserve the right to reverse my opinion on ender.
Ok so that whole progression was wolf af. Finding a split between rondo and Seanzie, and rolling all the first 36 hours against Rondo. Ignores Seanzie. How bout the last like 12 hours?
Ok so I don’t remember the vote count totals here, but this seems prettty risky to go for Seanzie at this point if Ender is wolf. Could be said that rondo perhaps wasn’t sticking as a mislynch, and so he resignedly votes his partner, but it’s a bit too much of a potential start on a train. Why not just keep the vote on rondo? Would’ve been safer.
Ah, well, back down we go, leaving room to switch back in case Seanzie gets too hot.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am Maybe voting Rondo again tbh.
I just want more than one viable wagon towards eod
Why even include this. Why even comment this at all? Trying to appear like he’s still a committed soldier to the Kill Seanzie Committee?
Suddenly implying he wouldn’t be opposed to switching it upEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:33 pm Giving it a try is all I ask. Yeah seems really stagnant and I'm getting cold feet
Good look, if I recall it’s hinging on like 1 vote apart. Rondo and falcon at 2, and lime coke and Seanzie were tied at 3.
He could have easily gone back to Rondo. The opportunity was there to switch. Would it have been too fishy for him to do so? I don’t think so, his progression was already setting himself up to be able to switch as he saw fit. He very well could have swung the tide against rondo or falcon or LC, but held fast with a leading wagon. Could have easily made it LC/Rondo lead wagon.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm Rondo's active sabotaging of saving attempts idk what to think of but it's rand!town on surface
He didn’t even bother to correct whatever broken link that was.
Ok, so he ilario hasn’t talked much about either Lime or Seanzie, except for asking Lime earlier why he suspected Seanzie. There was no follow up, so we really don’t know what ilario thinks of Seanzie.ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:59 pm Idk how I feel about these wagons. Both main wagons feel almost too relaxed(?) for either to be mafia so I don’t feel good on voting either rn...but yeah idk I’m not familiar with either player so maybe this could just be a playstyle difference. My main issue is I don’t really have a better alternative on who we should vote so yeah, That being said I’m just gonna throw a random vanity vote for potential post game credit based on no real reasoning at all.
[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Someone already had these posts queued up and ready to send to the Washington Post. Just sticks up his finger with this aside to call Seanzie town, fwiwiwiwiw
And back on to tsp who, yesterday, was lamenting the wagon on Seanzie. Easy target, because ‘obv wolf was obv trying to save his partner’. It’s too easy.
This post looks straight towny to me. A wolf makes this kind of post at the end of a lynch day <3% of the time. I did the math
I agree with everything you saidRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:21 pm Ok I did some ISOing last night and basically Jack of Hearts is town here, that last minute psyche! got a wolf hit, he could be deep but that is to deal with later.
I have no defence other than I wasnt sure on LC and was happy to see where it went. After the fact LC is pretty much a lock town.
Ender I am leaning towards busing a team mate atm
Scotty I am leaning town for leading on seanzie
TSP had some quotes that made me go :think:
Protecting Seanzie earlyTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:54 pm On Sean I sorta thing durdling on day 1 defines his town play as both alignments tbh
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:49 amNanook you sure on this?
To Sean: nothing’s happening and we’re gonna kill someone we think is anti town which currently is multiple peopletrying to set me up for chopTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:51 amtmiRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:01 amI think 100% of my games with Alison so far have been Alison wolf so I statistically call Alison town this game, but this is obviously a bad moveJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:59 amI don’t think I’ve ever seen Alison be anything but supatown prior to this game.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:45 amAlison cant be wolf every game.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:41 am My thoughts halfway up page 6 are like “I suspect Rondo, Alison, Seanzie in roughly that order. Alison is going after Rondo and Seanzie. Let’s flip a wolf in this group and spew one of my suspects town, too.”
But then I got the the posts where Alison starts going after Scotty and I didn’t like that shit because it felt like it ruined the plan.
more sean interaction
trying to get jack to move back
Trying to look town after seanzie is going to resolve?
Why tf aren’t you voting Seanzie to self pres?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:06 pm wow very little activity, pretty sure a town is getting lynched
BlehRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:52 amwhat if he flips town?Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:51 amI missed this.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:01 pmAlison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:55 pm I townread Falcon, ilario, Jack, LC, and (for all intents and purposes) Dyson. Ender is a lesser townread but still someone I can work with and have no inclination to vote. I am ok to sheep ilario on TSP for a bit because I usually have trouble reading TSP.
That leaves Nanook, Seanzie, Scotty, Rondo, and Gavial. I have spoken about Seanzie. Nanook is exactly rand. I don't really want to put up with Gavial being uncommunicative for the rest of the game; I also think he is intentionally being less communicative than he could have been with the gimmick. Rondo seemed rand to me but Ender thinks he's scummy and the two of them know each other well so I'm inclined to give some weight to that. Scotty is my strongest scumread.
It’s Elder Scrolls all over again, is it?
Please do tell, O Brutus
I'm tired and don't feel like writing a full explanation so here's the short version. I haven't felt the spark you have in your town games (eg. Guillo's Roles) where you feel like you're constantly striding forward. You've felt like you've been resting on your laurels and comfortable in the early townreads you accrued. Your pokes and pushes haven't gone anywhere and you don't seem particularly eager to pursue them; you've accused Seanzie of this, but you're also guilty of it yourself.
We’ve played 2 games together, so forgive me if I feel like that sample size isn’t big enough to judge my “normal” town behavior.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:51 amI missed this.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:01 pmAlison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:55 pm I townread Falcon, ilario, Jack, LC, and (for all intents and purposes) Dyson. Ender is a lesser townread but still someone I can work with and have no inclination to vote. I am ok to sheep ilario on TSP for a bit because I usually have trouble reading TSP.
That leaves Nanook, Seanzie, Scotty, Rondo, and Gavial. I have spoken about Seanzie. Nanook is exactly rand. I don't really want to put up with Gavial being uncommunicative for the rest of the game; I also think he is intentionally being less communicative than he could have been with the gimmick. Rondo seemed rand to me but Ender thinks he's scummy and the two of them know each other well so I'm inclined to give some weight to that. Scotty is my strongest scumread.
It’s Elder Scrolls all over again, is it?
Please do tell, O Brutus
I'm tired and don't feel like writing a full explanation so here's the short version. I haven't felt the spark you have in your town games (eg. Guillo's Roles) where you feel like you're constantly striding forward. You've felt like you've been resting on your laurels and comfortable in the early townreads you accrued. Your pokes and pushes haven't gone anywhere and you don't seem particularly eager to pursue them; you've accused Seanzie of this, but you're also guilty of it yourself.
We’ve played before and I’ve made it known that I get antsy when people make too many town reads. As scum, it’s easy to hide behind town reading people. Keeps your options open and doesn’t incriminate you too much. It’s a safe play, and I don’t like it.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:40 pm Yes you caught me day 1 100% I am wolf, you got me. Is what I would be saying if you actually caught me D1 as wolf
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:40 pm Yes you caught me day 1 100% I am wolf, you got me.
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:55 pm I townread Falcon, ilario, Jack, LC, and (for all intents and purposes) Dyson. Ender is a lesser townread but still someone I can work with and have no inclination to vote. I am ok to sheep ilario on TSP for a bit because I usually have trouble reading TSP.
That leaves Nanook, Seanzie, Scotty, Rondo, and Gavial. I have spoken about Seanzie. Nanook is exactly rand. I don't really want to put up with Gavial being uncommunicative for the rest of the game; I also think he is intentionally being less communicative than he could have been with the gimmick. Rondo seemed rand to me but Ender thinks he's scummy and the two of them know each other well so I'm inclined to give some weight to that. Scotty is my strongest scumread.
sucks, don’t it?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:04 am [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
I haven't done this D1 in a while.
I feel like I’m scrolling through tumblr circa 2015Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:23 amRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:13 amThis gimick sucks and I'm gonna end up dropping it real quick tbhLime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:07 am Agreeing with Illario that Scotty is pretty towny, seems to be very comfortable in the thread.
Something about this post makes me townread JackofHearts. Can't explain why.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:13 pm This gimick sucks and I'm gonna end up dropping it real quick tbh
And I don't know what Gavial is alignment wise. However I'm finding the pictures humorous and I will refuse to vote them Day 1.
Its ok you can tel me, just whisper it into the computerEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:23 am I already have a super special secret townread.
And a super special secret maybe scumread.
I unfortunately can not reciprocate. I don’t find you towny yetLime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:07 am Agreeing with Illario that Scotty is pretty towny, seems to be very comfortable in the thread.
Something about this post makes me townread JackofHearts. Can't explain why.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:13 pm This gimick sucks and I'm gonna end up dropping it real quick tbh
And I don't know what Gavial is alignment wise. However I'm finding the pictures humorous and I will refuse to vote them Day 1.
count as a smilie? Or is it a frownie?
beerie or 
cheerie?
: areyoufuckingkiddingmie
