The Syndicate

REMINDER TO ALL YOU CHATTY CATHY’S: Night is open tonight, so let’s have a party.

I think it more likely that the last mafia, if TH and Martin are bad, is nook, which would make listo soooo happy lol

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:45 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:20 pm If the soup is real my best guess for LoMo's death is some kind of KP that isn't tied to the factional NK, like a conditional kill or something along those lines. We know that Michelle had something similar (the killing framer role, which kills anyone that visits the person they framed and isn't an investigative), so there could be more conditional KP the mafia has.

Flea promised to tryhard but I'm not really seeing it. Fae've still been overall townie on play and if Martin flips red I'm pretty sure fae're cleared because in that world TH is pushing them as the next most viable misexe to try to save Martin. So I'm just going to let the Martin flip resolve faer for me.

I'm waiting on interactions, i can resolve myself easily.

In fact, lets do it. Lets draw the NK.

no me first

If Martin/TH are our last mafia, does a 4-person team on a 21 person game make sense? I feel like it has to be one more.

For listo to just say he’s most sus of exactly what I’m thinking [plus nook] he’d be painting himself deep into a corner if wolf, unless we’re all wrong about Martin/TH.

Wait ok there’s some ability that Dolby wasn’t aware of that gave a gun to Mac, which lobotomized him. Ima call that the Lobotomy Gun.

Dolby received 1 of 3 guns: 1 HK denies receiving. I’ll call that the Invisible Gun. 1 Dolby used normally. I’ll call that the Bwap Bwap Gun. 1 Seanzie blew up with. I’ll call that the Horseshoe Gun. Those all seem to be from one ability.

Haven’t heard of anyone else receiving a gun, so I’m dubious there are any more gun powers. There’s also a chance mac was the redirected recipient of a gun where HK should have received it.
When Ender gave me a random ability- which I guess I’ll buy- if I received the power that gives out 3 guns I would expect someone else to have used it. So I’d like to think I probably have a…Lobotomy Gun.

That probably doesn’t help town if I use it lol

Dammit I really wanna be useful

Honestly if people start mass townreading me my days are probably numbered anyway. So I might as well shoot into the storm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:16 pm I woke up with a splitting headache this morning and the game has kinda stalled so I don't have much to say. I am strongly reading TH and Martin as partners now that TH is blatantly chainsaw defending him. I kinda just want the day to end so we can see Martin's flip.

I can try and speed it up by shooting him.

I might get Seanzie’d or I might not. What we think?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:01 pm friendos the above posts are why scotty is town

meh

Mmm ima backtrack

If that soupkill isn’t real, Line o Coke actually makes sense as a plant to appear in a towny list of names. Mac would be the next if only for the idea that he could do a gambit and I wouldn’t blink twice. Then Alison, then Dolby.

listo still hasn’t done a good job of appearing town. For someone that has self-appointed himself as a Sherlock Holmes as the game progresses, he’s appearing more and more as a Jacques Clouseau. Lots of scum equity, and only popping in to deflect and defend. Where’s the solving my man?

It’s deader in here than a big box gym in March

At this point, Alison as a wolf is implausible at best. Kidnap, come back swinging with good reads, pushing envelopes. Not to underestimate her wolfing, because I hear through the grapevine it’s pretty strong. But her play this game is too gambity I feel. The kidnapping is surely a mafia ability. We will probably see another kidnapping tomorrow as well. Unless we kill that role today.

Mac’s condition is hopefully not contagious, but it’s less than ideal. He’s going to be a liability for solving the game as we dwindle in numbers, and mafia is just going to have to kill him, which I don’t see happening. Could he be faking? As Alison defended when it happened, the timing was sure weird to pull a gambit. Again, if Mac is bad, then it’s a bizarrely timed gambit. Not out of the realm of possibility, but I’d say hiiiighly unlikely.

That soup kill is most definitely an attempt of some sort and I’m still going to use it as canon. Dolby is lock town. No way Ender told his buddy to shoot him for cred. Would be a waste. And if it’s all been for cred, he’s playing a remarkable game if bad. I don’t see cracks since my initial case against him in d2.

If there’s a deep wolf in the soup, it could be Lime Coke. Yea he was in the soup, but I have no idea where he’s been since D1. I read it as town regardless. Not in my poe

But the thing that people are missing is: if that soup kill were real, someone TOWN killed lomo. The possibilities people bringing up about lomo being some sort of medium…only make sense if mafia killed them. So…something doesn’t add up there, if the mafia indeed were stripped of their factional kill.

Mac started his Groundhog Day seven hours after d3 started, and here we are almost 24 hours into on Day 4.

Is this going to be permanent? Like, is this the negative utility he hinted at receiving and is it active now for the rest of the game?

Because that sucks for everyone involved

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:12 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:29 pm Shoulda voted them sooner is all. Sorry Martin, your slot is bad,”.

Also SHROOP if anyone cares about SHROOPs

You kids and your hipster lingo

What’s a shroop

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:56 pm Someone who knows Scotty tell me if this is just NAIstyle that I should ignore
I think Scotty's vote is terrible regardless of how Martin flips

Ridiculous amount of over-justification
Completely ignores the reasons everyone else has against Martin
Goes back to find his own reason and it's just so... bad, him coming up with his own reason at all reads as so forced
It's like he Ctrl+F'd a random wolf's name in osie's ISO and grabbed the first questionable-looking quote he could

It reads like an unnecessary ruthless LHF dunk
It also reads like a last-second bus

Nice to meet you. I prefer to justify my votes. What you call over-justification is perhaps my verbose way of talking. Check all my other cases on people.

More importantly, I find when people don’t justify their votes to be suspicious af

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:09 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:12 pm

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:08 pm scum get your grimey hands off martin

alison, mac, flea, myself. How many wolves in that set?

Probably just flea, alison if I'm really tinfoiling

ELEMENTARY MY DEAR MACSON

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:20 am a status effect was just applied onto me such that I would be required to shoot today if I had a gun

I do not actually have a gun

But I do

Odd that I claimed I had a gun yesterday and I didn’t receive this condition today.

Maybe my gun is not a Seanzie gun after all..

This is to say that I do think listo is still bad, but there is stronger evidence for me to vote Martin.

Oh, and that Martin is voting for HK of all people? Blasphemy. Could he be satan reincarnate? We should be so lucky

Bah, I should’ve looked more thoroughly at everyone before coming to the conclusion of listo being the optimal chop today.

Osie had more scum equity with Ender even than when I made a case on their teammate comparibity with Michelle.

Regardless of Martin’s entrance, all I needed was to look at D1 and d2 osie/Ender interactions to realize this slot is scum.

D1? Osie almost completely ignores Ender, puts him on their scum lean with NK explanation, but not one of their 5 scumreads.
D2? Bumps Ender up to townlean. Why? Unclear.

“Ender felt okay on D1. I'm feeling a touch of paranoia there since I think they work on some teams, and their D2 is not nearly as stellar. But it's not bad. Their spew reads aren't great, but they don't feel scum-motivated, just bad play. I never want to elim Ender before LyLO this game, overall; I think their effort on D1 while under pressure looks really good and their D2 feels sorta like a sigh of relief while still trying to solve, even if they aren't doing it well. I don't think they're ever a buddy with Michelle. Townread.”

That whole paragraph is just a big yikes knowing ender’s bad.
Voting on vanity wagons, peddling POEs that were clearly bad.

Shoulda voted them sooner is all. Sorry Martin, your slot is bad,”.
[VOTE: martin] aubergine

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:27 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:20 pm A raw claim of "I flipped wrong" doesn't prove anything. Genuine town will claim they flipped wrong if they did flip wrong. Genuine mafia will lie about flipping wrong just to mess with town. If HK has a strong read on who in DVC was lying, we can listen to that. Absent that, the best way to proceed as I have mentioned is to build worlds where X is town, and then build worlds where X is mafia, and compare the worlds: is anyone scum regardless of the flip? Whose alignments are dependent on/chained to each other? Who has a difference check with someone else?

For a period of time I played exclusively flipless mafia: this is one of the strategies used to try to coherently gamesolve in the absence of flips. Since "I flipped wrong" doesn't tell us anything, we can almost treat slots like Michelle and Ender as being psuedo-flipless and try to suss out either their alignment or the alignment of those associated with them through worldbuilding.

I agree with Alison here. Obvs wolves are going to lie about their flip obvs town won't lie about their flip.
Personally I believe Ender and Michelle flipped accurately.
Michelle tried arguing that Falcon was killed by town and that mafia killed Michelle and I don't believe that.

I wouldn't try solving via "who flipped wrong" though as down that path lies madness

I feel as though they must know that there would be some sort of resurrection abilities in play or else, like..I know I would’ve come out as wolf for sure in a dead chat. Dead is dead

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:23 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:18 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:00 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:58 pm I'm actually confused with what HK has come back to say but at least it's nice to have a resurrected town?

what's confusing and what can I do to help clear any confusion?

What has been said in DVC? Like the whole "I flipped wrong" shit that's been said by a few people in that. It's making this difficult as hell to solve.

brief synopsis/highlights:
Falcon/Ender conversation about how Ender can't read Falcon
Ender claimed his flip is wrong and he's town. Thinks Dolby is a wolf.
Michelle claimed her flip is wrong and she's town. Thinks Alison might be a wolf.
Honey thinks Alison is a wolf and thinks Scotty is a wolf (I think)
Mansnicks thinks Scotty is a wolf
TSP didn't really say much of anything other than my check was wrong.
LoMo said hi, then I left dvc

I'm sure I'm forgetting things, please don't take this as an exhaustive list.

In a game with strict OGI restrictions and mod killing, I have no idea how any of this is allowed.

Because it’s literally outside of the game.

But aight let’s get matrix up in here

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:20 pm A raw claim of "I flipped wrong" doesn't prove anything. Genuine town will claim they flipped wrong if they did flip wrong. Genuine mafia will lie about flipping wrong just to mess with town. If HK has a strong read on who in DVC was lying, we can listen to that. Absent that, the best way to proceed as I have mentioned is to build worlds where X is town, and then build worlds where X is mafia, and compare the worlds: is anyone scum regardless of the flip? Whose alignments are dependent on/chained to each other? Who has a difference check with someone else?

For a period of time I played exclusively flipless mafia: this is one of the strategies used to try to coherently gamesolve in the absence of flips. Since "I flipped wrong" doesn't tell us anything, we can almost treat slots like Michelle and Ender as being psuedo-flipless and try to suss out either their alignment or the alignment of those associated with them through worldbuilding.

That’s like asking me to play Warhammer in a checkers game, and I only know how to play monopoly.

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:43 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:40 pm

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:38 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:36 pm Since you said it, listo, what information did you gain from ender’s flip? Besides that nook is bad

Like I said during last day. Creature is likely town now, Dolby is almost certainly town. I haven't had time to look at the votes yet and will do that sometime tomorrow because I have work soon.

Are you making those reads because of Ender’s flip, or exclusive from it?

If we’ve caught 2 wolves, how many wolves do you think are left, and who is in your POE now? Besides nook

Those 2 are because of the flip.

Not including Nook I'd say my POE before looking at vote records is TH and Osie. Everyone else I feel like is town or town leaning. Maybe Lime as a distant 3rd?

But why does the flip give you that impression? I did see in your iso right after he flipped that you made these reads, but you never said why

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:46 pm I'm voting you because I haven't fully made up my mind as to where I want to vote and I felt your existential crisis stuff about possibly faked flips in a game you know is bastard felt kinda performative.

You’re gonna love playing with me again then

I’m nothing if not performative

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:38 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:36 pm Since you said it, listo, what information did you gain from ender’s flip? Besides that nook is bad

Like I said during last day. Creature is likely town now, Dolby is almost certainly town. I haven't had time to look at the votes yet and will do that sometime tomorrow because I have work soon.

Are you making those reads because of Ender’s flip, or exclusive from it?

If we’ve caught 2 wolves, how many wolves do you think are left, and who is in your POE now? Besides nook

Since you said it, listo, what information did you gain from ender’s flip? Besides that nook is bad

This whole interaction in particular is contrived.

listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:28 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:22 pm

listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:19 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:18 pm

listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:16 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:15 pm

listo95 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:20 pm
Oh I literally do not sheep that at all. I fully believe Nanook is a wolf. My current other quick reads would be:
Creature - Wolf
Ender - Null (I do agree his spot needs to be resolved to get better D1 reads)
Scotty - Town
Alison - Town
TH - Honestly this does not feel like town TH to me so Wolf Lean

I think as of now those are my strongest reads besides the Nanook wolf.

"Strongest reads"

"Null"

Alright.

That portion was less for the null and more for the fact that you do need to be resolved for the most info gain imo.

Why? Because you can't read my posts so you need to POE me?

Well that and I do truly believe you will give a lot of info with your elimination.

That sounds like lazy play guv.

Is it a lazy play when it plays to my strength of having more info?

Especially considering listo then says Ender looks towny and votes creature.

That’s one

Also it’s probably my hubris talking but if the flips are actually as we see them, I should be looking very towny right about now.

I have to assume you’re voting me right now as a prod into getting me to produce reads on a town Ender, when I really don’t hVe the energy to do so. And frankly don’t care to do so because fuck that

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:16 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Scotty: your push on listo has been at least partially based on Ender associations. How does the suggestion of Ender being town (which I know you've been publicly grappling with and taking seriously) affect your read on listo?

If Ender is town it requires me to flip all of my reads upside down, including you.

And yes, the Ender scum flip is what makes me most suspicious.

Once I have some time to myself I’ll be able to show more closely my thoughts on listo’s behavior around the train d3. Or if you’re bored, you can look too, and tell me his pushes weren’t in some effort to dissuade the ender’s game

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:24 pm

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:41 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:31 am

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:18 am ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.

I also did only post 14 times D1 so really almost no one interacted with me.
I'm generally an easy miselim due to my low post style
And for the D1 Nook I said I was going to sleep and would try to catch up when I woke up, I woke up and by the time I caught up day had just ended.
The D2 and D3 Nook is because I do genuinely believe he is wolf.

Wow now THAT is a steaming pile of horseshit.

Hi, I'm Flea The Magician - a low poster with lots of miselim potential. Especially as I've been frankly coasting most of the game.
If you wanna survive, gitgud, start hunting and lets do this.

Also fucking rip my second power.

You lost your second power?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:57 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:32 am Re: Michelle and Ender both claiming to be town, I'd assume anyone that flips mafia would claim that in DVC to confuse any townies who might be resurrected or communicate with living players.

I had a strong townread on Michelle D1: she was in her town meta, and her town meta is polarized. She also makes far more sense as the nightkill than Falcon. Conversely, the wolves submitting Bomb Maker on me suggests that they thought I blew up the person who visited LoMo, which means they probably knew a scum flipped that day. If the soupkill is faked, it's possible Michelle is town.

Whereas I think the Michelle flip is legit. The way she was handling me didn't make sense as someone who was trying to solve my alignment, the way she backed off based on someone elses recommendation (I think it was you actually) and yeah, I just trust that flip

Do you trust the Ender flip?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:59 pm I expect to eat the NK tonight. I'm functionally confirmed town now (not that I wasn't D1/D2 b/c I was neon sign obvs town)
I really want to chop TH today, that's where I'm going to be pushing. The way the handled me D2 is just ultra butts.

I see the opportunistic way they went about it, and I do understand your vitriol, but i entreat you to broaden your horizons from them. I also think they could be, but im having a very good feeling about listo today.

What are your thoughts on listo?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:49 am On the topic of possibly faked flips: could Gnome have been scum?

I swear to god I hope not.
If there’s some sort of janitor role..ok. But how many goddamned JOATS with that same role are there? Is it someone with a 3-shot ability?

Also why was HK even allowed to go to dead chat with others if there are RESURRECTIONS in this game? How do we know HK flipped town? How do I even know I’m town. My role card says it, but can I even trust that? Is my dog real? ARE MY FEET REAL JFC

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:45 am

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:41 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:31 am

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:18 am ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.

I also did only post 14 times D1 so really almost no one interacted with me.
I'm generally an easy miselim due to my low post style
And for the D1 Nook I said I was going to sleep and would try to catch up when I woke up, I woke up and by the time I caught up day had just ended.
The D2 and D3 Nook is because I do genuinely believe he is wolf.

True you didn’t do much D1. That doesn’t help your case.
And I townread you up until ender’s flip.

If nook is lynched and he comes up good, where does that leave you? Would you be comfortable being next in line?

I view it as “oh, I was just a tunneling town and we all make mistakes right guys?”

I never do much D1 no matter my alignment. If he comes up town I'd understand the focus to get me yeeted. Would I like it? No, because I know I am town.

I’m not ripping you for your D1- hell, I work the same way off of information. Mine are usually straight Oscar-the-grouch-garbage. I’m just saying your day 1 does you no favors.

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:41 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:31 am

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:18 am ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.

I also did only post 14 times D1 so really almost no one interacted with me.
I'm generally an easy miselim due to my low post style
And for the D1 Nook I said I was going to sleep and would try to catch up when I woke up, I woke up and by the time I caught up day had just ended.
The D2 and D3 Nook is because I do genuinely believe he is wolf.

True you didn’t do much D1. That doesn’t help your case.
And I townread you up until ender’s flip.

If nook is lynched and he comes up good, where does that leave you? Would you be comfortable being next in line?

I view it as “oh, I was just a tunneling town and we all make mistakes right guys?”

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:39 am You've suggested that Michelle being town would look bad for you, and that Michelle being scum would help clear you. But I don't remember you doing anything to elicit that kind of association. With Ender, yes, but not with Michelle.

It’s more the whole overarching premise of them being good. It would look like I’ve been peddling an agenda looking at their interactions. This was more targeted to my association with Ender but a town Michele invalidates my entire game imo

If we’re playing with multiple people flipping different, then this game goes from sleuthing to full on tonal soul reads. I am much better with the former and am very bad with the latter

I’d probably pull a D1 creature and lose all motivation bc what’s the point?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:35 am Have you been anti-Michelle?

What does that mean? I’ve been operating under the assumption that she is bad, if that’s your meaning

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:25 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:12 am Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

That bit is weird. The announcement that mafia lost their NK came directly from the mod, so it can't have been faked by just submitting wrong roles on their own members. I considered the possibility of a mafia member who could alter mod posts, but that seems both overpowered and it's unclear to me why they would try to claim the nightkill was disabled and then use it immediately after.

“Overpowered”

Girl this is a bastard game, I’m ready to start pooping milkduds any day

Listen, if Michelle AND Ender are good, then it looks very bad for me. Ngl

If they’re not, I really don’t see how I would be a wolf unless I’ve been openly campaigning for and bussing my teammates

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:20 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:19 am If all the flips in this game have been wrong then everything I’ve done has been wrong and I quit

ikr
michelle and ender (and I think Honey) wanted you dead/think you're a wolf

Cool

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:18 am ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.

If all the flips in this game have been wrong then everything I’ve done has been wrong and I quit

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:14 am

any red checks to share with the class?

Also I didn’t have a lot of free time from when Ender was killed to end of day 3, but I did some redigging for teammate alignments and I’m VERY certain listo is w/w with Ender

[VOTE: listo] aubergine

Will be back with some better insight

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:11 am

Hollowkatt has resurrected from the dead!

Also Night 4 will be open for posting.

Eyyyyyy all good news!

Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:34 am @hollowkatt @TonyStarkPrime If you have any important info please share it in a single post in your chat.

Huh? What chat

Just combed through Mac’s iso looking for Ender stuff. He’s been all over the place but I can’t deny he’s been consistently reading Ender as bad for most of the game. A big adder to ender’s D1 train, continues this on d2.

I wanna scum read mac as a deeeeep wolf but I just don’t see it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:34 am as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

You think this flip makes me look MORE sus???

Also now that he’s dead, I did in fact get an item from Ender yesterday. I just didn’t know if I should trust it.

It’s a gun, and I still don’t know if it’s a Seanzie gun or a Mac gun. Either way, guns haven’t been extremely successful so ima keep it holstered