The Syndicate

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:20 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:17 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.
How’s that ‘clearing’ coming?
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:41 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:55 pm i am back to thunal/scotty

by the lord ruler the game is solved
Why did you suspect Scotty here?
One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:45 pm I'm not feeling Epi mafia anymore. I caught him from spec in that game where he was wolf with Delta and he felt different there. Here it feels like he's throwing out takes while there it felt like he had a clear agenda.
Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:06 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:27 am Hmmmm

Yeah never mind it isn't scotty

Why don't you think I believe my reads scotty?
Slightly good look for Marmot imo.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:12 pm I don't have a scumread and it's frustrating. I feel like it would be a waste to just chop the 1 poster today. I definitely don't want to chop in Scotty, nutella, Syn, Seanzie, or SVS.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:38 pm In case there's any contention, I'd rather Seanzie die than Marmot. Let's hope this is right.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.

I think she forgot who she actually suspected.
I was doing a lot of ISO reading near EoD to find a vote, and on reread I wasn't as confident in Seanzie being town as I was before, but Marmot's more recent posts looked good. I had limited posts and limited time so I couldn't respond to every question or detail my whole progression. I wanted to be right over showing my work in the thread.

Also, "forgot who I actually suspected?" I didn't, but I also wouldn't as a wolf. It's actually towny for me since I make more 180s and have random thoughts about my reads while as a wolf I care more about having a progression that looks good.
Would you say you are polarized enough that you would never forget to explain a progression or even forget that you had a specific suspicion?
No, but I think I do it more often as town than as wolf.

This is my smug lawyer cross examination moment:

So you’re saying it’s possible

I also immediately disregarded Dizzy as the likely mark because Lime Coke put dizzy at the top of the list.

No one does that, it’s too obvious.

…

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:32 am Dizzy and Thunal are probably town btw don't yeet them.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:39 am I have my limited posts I'll use them sparingly.

Townread:
Dizzy
Syn
Thunal
SVS

My main townreads, I won't be targetting them at all.

I'll try to narrow down more before deadline.

@Thunal33 this was the moment

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:43 pm

You only have 60 posts. Read the rules.
What/who even was this a response to?

Based on derpvibes, I wanna give Epi a pass. Based on variablevibes, Epi is definitely capable of doing this as mafia.
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Falcon’s entrance seems fine enough. The two lowest posters just outright voting without apparently reading the rules is mighty…coincidental tho.

I will drop both into my teetering scumlean but not in my scumreads. I think they both share equity of being partners with each other for this shtick if it’s really a shtick. It might just be derp. Will avoid D1.
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I like Sean’s solving after he answered my question. I feel better on him atm. His rainbow, while not exactly sharing the same scumreads, is close with the townreads. Leantown
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SVS had a tone in her recent posts that are playful and also inquisitive that I associate with town SVS. There are other things that I feel like I would have seen that would spell bad SVS that I have not seen, so svs is upper Townlean
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nutella- I have liked her vibes but the way she is reacting to certain reads comes off as faux indignation at times. She’s a tough nut to crack but I’m actually putting her into scumlean atm.
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Thunal continues to exhibit fringe behavior. When I say fringe, it’s just in the middle. She hasn’t taken many strong stances from my observation, and I feel has overexplained her feelings in some cases.
I also acknowledge that she is very calmly continuing to post thoughts and not go into defensive mode, which is probably??? something a town would be doing in this case.
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:22 pm I'm not a big fan of the vote split rn. We can't have everyone vanity voting or it'll be easy for mafia to control the elim.
this quote oozes ‘come on fellow town, let’s pull it together!’ While slapping everyone’s butt as we go into the cricket pitch or what have you
Did you think I was a power role when you made this post?

Nope. Let me pull up exactly when that was

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.
How’s that ‘clearing’ coming?
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:41 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:55 pm i am back to thunal/scotty

by the lord ruler the game is solved
Why did you suspect Scotty here?
One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:45 pm I'm not feeling Epi mafia anymore. I caught him from spec in that game where he was wolf with Delta and he felt different there. Here it feels like he's throwing out takes while there it felt like he had a clear agenda.
Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:06 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:27 am Hmmmm

Yeah never mind it isn't scotty

Why don't you think I believe my reads scotty?
Slightly good look for Marmot imo.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:12 pm I don't have a scumread and it's frustrating. I feel like it would be a waste to just chop the 1 poster today. I definitely don't want to chop in Scotty, nutella, Syn, Seanzie, or SVS.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:38 pm In case there's any contention, I'd rather Seanzie die than Marmot. Let's hope this is right.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.

I think she forgot who she actually suspected.
I was doing a lot of ISO reading near EoD to find a vote, and on reread I wasn't as confident in Seanzie being town as I was before, but Marmot's more recent posts looked good. I had limited posts and limited time so I couldn't respond to every question or detail my whole progression. I wanted to be right over showing my work in the thread.

Also, "forgot who I actually suspected?" I didn't, but I also wouldn't as a wolf. It's actually towny for me since I make more 180s and have random thoughts about my reads while as a wolf I care more about having a progression that looks good.

Would you say you are polarized enough that you would never forget to explain a progression or even forget that you had a specific suspicion?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:34 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:54 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:26 pm just find it interesting you wanted to string up both shielded people if you could have managed to convince people to grant you their votes

also don't believe you didn't know Dizzy was being shielded lol c'mon
I mean it didn’t really matter when it comes to my vote tbh, since I had already voted marmot at that point.

LC shielding Thunal was so left field that it really made me think thunal was the bloodsealer.

Now without LC to shield her I’m…I guess…even more tunneled on her being bad
This isn't a good look for you because I don't really believe that you believed I was the bloodsealer. I thought it was Dizzy and realized it close to EoD, but after I looked through LC's ISO I thought it was clear. He had Dizzy as his top townread for "reasons" when he tried to explain it.

It's easier for a wolf to think "oh crap, maybe I'm pushing a power role" and be paranoid about that than it is for a townie, since a wolf already knows their push is town. If you're town, you believed I was a wolf but still backed off because LC was townreading me even though he was townreading Dizzy twice as hard for no reason? From the mindset of a townie who confidently believes I'm a wolf, thinking "wait, maybe she's a power role" would not be the first thing that comes to mind.

Au contrair monfrau

LC made no real lead up to town read too, and then lumped you into the ‘donotkill’ list, hence me thinking he did so for a reason. I didn’t see him townreading dizzy twice as hard as you say, probably because I was a bit tunneled on you.

I think you’re purposefully finding kernels in crackers to try and discredit the witness.

Which is me. I’m the witness

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.

Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.

Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.

Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.

We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.

K
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!

Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!

You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.
Tbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.

Spoiler: show
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:51 am I'm actually like 50/50 on Scotty but plenty of time to figure that one out there.
You’re acting like a hungry dude at a Costco cycling around the same free samples over and over

And your indecision makes me townread you. Congratulations.

I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.

But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.

Actually, LC ruined everything because I was building up to softing that I was the skeleton dude and chose him as my townmark, hence me telling everyone not to vote him. But lolol

I appreciate that you are admitting your supposition that his mark was me. I think I believe you

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.

How’s that ‘clearing’ coming?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:41 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:55 pm i am back to thunal/scotty

by the lord ruler the game is solved
Why did you suspect Scotty here?

One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:45 pm I'm not feeling Epi mafia anymore. I caught him from spec in that game where he was wolf with Delta and he felt different there. Here it feels like he's throwing out takes while there it felt like he had a clear agenda.

Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:06 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:27 am Hmmmm

Yeah never mind it isn't scotty

Why don't you think I believe my reads scotty?
Slightly good look for Marmot imo.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:12 pm I don't have a scumread and it's frustrating. I feel like it would be a waste to just chop the 1 poster today. I definitely don't want to chop in Scotty, nutella, Syn, Seanzie, or SVS.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:38 pm In case there's any contention, I'd rather Seanzie die than Marmot. Let's hope this is right.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.

I think she forgot who she actually suspected.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:14 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I am tunneling Scotty tomorrow

btw you need a permit to build a tunnel through this mountain

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:26 pm just find it interesting you wanted to string up both shielded people if you could have managed to convince people to grant you their votes

also don't believe you didn't know Dizzy was being shielded lol c'mon

I mean it didn’t really matter when it comes to my vote tbh, since I had already voted marmot at that point.

LC shielding Thunal was so left field that it really made me think thunal was the bloodsealer.

Now without LC to shield her I’m…I guess…even more tunneled on her being bad

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:17 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:03 pm Cool cool cool

Mafia is paying attention. Sounds like LC was the once a game soupkill and they happened to find the right name out of LC’s ‘donotkill’ list. I thought it would thunal.
interestingly, this is scotty's take after LC's "do not chop these people" list

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:55 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.
Laughable that you could clear anyone

If LC wasn’t shielding you I would have voted you.

I still think you’re bad.

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Marmot could be good. Their response is not terrible, but they’re also just a scumlean to me atm. I don’t regret voting for them.

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Dizzy is an enigma. Syn calling dizzy a top town read is laughable. Dizzy is rather despondent. Epi called him mean, which equates to, as dizzy describes, bluntness. But I see the opposite. He’s a bit aloof and isn’t ruffling any feathers. Blendy, not pushing the envelope. I support a dizzy vote if the rest of y’all with votes remaining choose to go there

Interesting why?

I didn’t think dizzy was the one LC was protecting but then again I didn’t reread the thread to hunt for that.

Do you not believe me?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:04 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:00 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:51 pm i think thunal is a wolf
I don't know that I see Thunal killing Dizzy Night One.

ALTHOUGH, looking at Dizzys role, definitely one the Mafia wants gone ASAP. She has that tentative feel she had as town in Sesame St, as opposed to the smoother, more confident delivery she had in Se7en.

Re read her too, I guess.
lol well yeah, of course mafia wants the only other PR gone.
Especially since that role can pinpoint the other power roles.

Condescension ignored And have fun backpacking.

Sorry about the condescension- I’m just kinda disappointed we just lost our PRs with no real trade off and dealing with the fact that there’s nothing to solve any more and I’ve now been tricked into playing a mountainous game. I hate mountainous

Going back to my previous thought- mafia is paying attention. I don’t think Epi is paying attention. He could be a mafia laying low while his partner pulls the strings, but he isn’t the ring leader here. The kill last night points to at least one mafia that has been active in thread

Heads up that I will be gone gone starting tomorrow night until Saturday night backpacking with probably no service. So I’ll be here until I leave tomorrow morning, then not again til D3. Provided I’m still alive

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:00 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:51 pm i think thunal is a wolf
I don't know that I see Thunal killing Dizzy Night One.

ALTHOUGH, looking at Dizzys role, definitely one the Mafia wants gone ASAP. She has that tentative feel she had as town in Sesame St, as opposed to the smoother, more confident delivery she had in Se7en.

Re read her too, I guess.

lol well yeah, of course mafia wants the only other PR gone.

Cool cool cool

Mafia is paying attention. Sounds like LC was the once a game soupkill and they happened to find the right name out of LC’s ‘donotkill’ list. I thought it would thunal.

I doubt rico would be so limp and absent if he were actually participating behind the scenes. That doesn’t seem correct to me. I don’t think Rico should go today. But he needs to participate.

Spoiler: show

Well, now that we’re all essentially VT, mafia has no need for most of those. Diminishing Soulstamp is probably the most powerful left, and I doubt it was used last night. It will probably be used tonite or tomorrow, depending, id expect.
Silencing soulstamp was probably used last night.

Just lol. After tomorrow night this is a straight vanilla game for everyone

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:37 pm I'll focus on clearing as many people as I can and coming to a consensus vote pool.

Laughable that you could clear anyone

If LC wasn’t shielding you I would have voted you.

I still think you’re bad.

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Marmot could be good. Their response is not terrible, but they’re also just a scumlean to me atm. I don’t regret voting for them.

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Dizzy is an enigma. Syn calling dizzy a top town read is laughable. Dizzy is rather despondent. Epi called him mean, which equates to, as dizzy describes, bluntness. But I see the opposite. He’s a bit aloof and isn’t ruffling any feathers. Blendy, not pushing the envelope. I support a dizzy vote if the rest of y’all with votes remaining choose to go there

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:23 am [VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

We're thunderdoming. You vote him or you vote me. Gl.

just saying

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:20 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:12 am [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
Wolf

Beaver

For the record, my initial reaction to Nutella’s handling of LC’s claim was an annoyed wolf, but I’m not sure how often nutella throws out AtE ‘game throwing’ comments as either alignment here. Since everyone else seems to be seeing it as a frustrated town, I’ll just shrug and move on.

Marmot’s reaction seems to be just passing the buck. So does Syn, but Syn is doing it in such a way that I think he actually believes in his reads. Marmot last I heard had a working theory that it was just Scotty/LC, or else LC wasn’t a part of my team. Well, if LC is telling the truth here, Marmot should find an easy mark in me, no?

But I’m one of like 5 names, and I think he’s just happy to vote someone with the crowd

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:25 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:24 am It's too bad he and one of my apparent other scumreaders already locked their votes and can't counterwagon/self pres. I have the upper hand here I guess. Let's see that sweet red flip.
You will see me flip red, then you will self vote after fucking up.

Fall on your sword.

Was this a scumslip

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:05 am I'm having a night cap and fucking off to bed. If anyone has any questions for me, go for it.

Can you expound upon your declaration that nutella is bad?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:49 pm I'd vote Falcon.

Strange idea D1, no?

Worked in Wilgy’s last cosmere game, didn’t?

Anyway, I don’t think you’re mafia in this one

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:46 pm nutella is mafia.

I can see it.

I’d vote there

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:07 pm I'm fine voting LC, Dizzy, SVS

You’ve already voted for Kate, bucko.

Go ahead and put your little talons on Kate in the poll

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:43 pm

You only have 60 posts. Read the rules.

What/who even was this a response to?

Based on derpvibes, I wanna give Epi a pass. Based on variablevibes, Epi is definitely capable of doing this as mafia.
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Falcon’s entrance seems fine enough. The two lowest posters just outright voting without apparently reading the rules is mighty…coincidental tho.

I will drop both into my teetering scumlean but not in my scumreads. I think they both share equity of being partners with each other for this shtick if it’s really a shtick. It might just be derp. Will avoid D1.
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I like Sean’s solving after he answered my question. I feel better on him atm. His rainbow, while not exactly sharing the same scumreads, is close with the townreads. Leantown
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SVS had a tone in her recent posts that are playful and also inquisitive that I associate with town SVS. There are other things that I feel like I would have seen that would spell bad SVS that I have not seen, so svs is upper Townlean
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nutella- I have liked her vibes but the way she is reacting to certain reads comes off as faux indignation at times. She’s a tough nut to crack but I’m actually putting her into scumlean atm.
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Thunal continues to exhibit fringe behavior. When I say fringe, it’s just in the middle. She hasn’t taken many strong stances from my observation, and I feel has overexplained her feelings in some cases.
I also acknowledge that she is very calmly continuing to post thoughts and not go into defensive mode, which is probably??? something a town would be doing in this case.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:22 pm I'm not a big fan of the vote split rn. We can't have everyone vanity voting or it'll be easy for mafia to control the elim.

this quote oozes ‘come on fellow town, let’s pull it together!’ While slapping everyone’s butt as we go into the cricket pitch or what have you

@Thunal33 before you disappear into the void could you leave us with your current reads list? Or even just a gun to head list of every player? I’m not sure what you’re thinking from your iso atm

Also I only have 11 posts left

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:56 pm Town brad is loud about his reads and makes it clear that they have reasons even if they're silly reasons. Lime's approach to me here was to simply ignore the request for any actual reasoning after I pointed out that his reasoning was nonsensical. People other than me might just not notice what he was doing as so egregious, but from where I'm sitting it sure felt like he made up justifications for his readlist and had no vested interest in backing them up when prompted. He was flippant, and flippancy does not always necessarily equal wolfiness, but I cannot locate a town motivation for his behavior.

It’s definitely more myopic for me as his progression with regards to figuring me out feels so indecisive and fluid that it comes off as way too messy to be a wolf in my eyes

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:55 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:36 pm @falcon45ca @Epignosis please explain why your thread-entrance vanity votes were on the topics of discussion at that time

was it just "biggest name to pick" or was there actual reasoning involved

Well, I often read the exact page I enter the game first, and go from there.

Lime Coke pinged me right away from what I read, so I voted him.

I was unaware there is a vote lock

lol I did the same thing when I randomly started reading JJJ’s bad first dates and immediately thought LC was mafia, and was right (which I patted myself on my back even tho I didn’t play that game)

I might be too close to the game, but I’m not getting that same obvious scum vibe from him here.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:47 pm What would happen if you mixed scotch with nutella?

Answer:

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:34 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:33 pm three wagons is nonideal
Let's all avoid further spread and consolidate on Lime then.

I'm probably not moving from this read. Realistically will wait a little longer to actually vote. But yeah. He's dying today.

I veto

Or at least will be a 3rd-party voter in that vote

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:19 pm I think it's just Scotty/Lime-Coke

Their interactions and reads on each other are weird in isolation, and the fact that they're also directed at each other rubs me the wrong way.

You...actually think we do this "Maybe you're mafia, maybe you're town, maybe you're not" dance as scum?
I thought about it a little more and I think there's a decent chance one of you is a wolf, but I'm probably wrong about you two being paired.

ooh ooh *clap clap*

Now do the scenario as if we’re both town!

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:19 pm I think it's just Scotty/Lime-Coke

Their interactions and reads on each other are weird in isolation, and the fact that they're also directed at each other rubs me the wrong way.

Epi - I get the case that v!Epi is probably much more self-conscious and apologetic than w!Epi and that's why he's more likely town from his content thus far.
Dizzy - Far too messy with his reads and cute to be a wolf. But seriously, w!Dizzy I would expect to be more calculated than this (or just lean more heavily into pocketing).
Syn - He's not stilted so he's probably town. I haven't seen w!Syn in years, but I don't really feel like this is it regardless.
Seanzie - I like his needling thus far. I hope he moves on from only needling me and applies pressure elsewhere, but I at least liked that focus.
Thunal - One minor gripe that doesn't stand up to me anymore. Her approach looks good, which I think is fine for Day 1 at least.
SVS - Town. Pushing multiple players with long explanations is very much in her town meta.
nutella - Talked about her already, but her explanation to me was satisfactory and her prods thus far have been fine.

falcon/Rico - null for now

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In general I think Scotty is fine, it's just that his progression on Lime Coke is quite lacking compared to his other content. He went from accusing LC of having a bad take to a top townread with very little deliberation in between.

If you want to talk about a progression that’s quite lacking, check out your read of me so far into this post.

like what?

Like Coke is probably my top town btw

Sean’s progression on marmot is questionable:

Spoiler: show

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:19 am I'm 95% to a Marmot vote.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:38 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:24 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:16 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:10 pm

I didn't opt to vote immediately because of the locked votes in the other game. I voted immediately in Holes to dig quickly, and didn't realize votes were locked. Do you believe I vote immediately every game?
I think it's less consequential in other games and so not really relevant.

But that explanation makes sense, carry on.
You asked a "gotcha" question that "wasn't really relevant" after being pressed? Tell me more.

Also, why is Scotty town?
I don't have an argument for v!Scotty, why are you asking me?
You asked me, but didn't care enough to notice I didn't answer.

Fair enough.

Do you feel like answering now?
Not really, but less because of a strategic reason and more because on reflection I don't see whatever it was I was seeing earlier.

Why do you feel like a "fair maiden" being fair enough all the time?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:49 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:38 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:24 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:16 am

You asked a "gotcha" question that "wasn't really relevant" after being pressed? Tell me more.

Also, why is Scotty town?
I don't have an argument for v!Scotty, why are you asking me?
You asked me, but didn't care enough to notice I didn't answer.

Fair enough.

Do you feel like answering now?
Not really, but less because of a strategic reason and more because on reflection I don't see whatever it was I was seeing earlier.

Why do you feel like a "fair maiden" being fair enough all the time?

From my POV, I didn't really feel the need in continuing to one-up in a back-and-forth. You made a good point. I acknowledged it. While I did consider a snarky retort, it didn't feel productive.
That sounds great, but at this point it is a pattern.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:30 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:16 am Can @Seanzie or @Dyslexicon explain why they scumread Marmot? Because after his recent posts I'm not seeing it. I'm nodding along to a lot of what he said, like townreading Scotty for the observation and initially being skeptical of Epi thinking votes were locked.
Oh, I don't anymore.

I originally did because he seemed like an eager beav... marmot.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:49 am Marmot
Scotty

Epignosis

Thunal

SVS

Dyslexicon
Rico
Kate
Falcon

Syn

Nutella

-95% convinced he’ll vote marmot
-“upon reflection I don’t see whatever it was I was seeing earlier”
-‘yea yea yea at this point it’s a pattern’
-doesn’t suspect anymore
-locktown

Like, ok. People can make 180’s in short amounts of time. I’ve done it this game.

What’s bugging me is that post in the middle where sean says ‘at this point it’s a pattern’. Because it seems to me that post is still shading marmot but he’s already reflected that he didn’t suspect him for the reason that he thought he did. Then to follow it up with marmot being one of the only ones in the top town tier? Baffling.

@Seanzie , what made marmot a top town and not just your main scum read? Because I feel like it wouldn’t be as binary as you’ve made it

Sean has an agenda methinks. Methinks hard

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:51 am I'm actually like 50/50 on Scotty but plenty of time to figure that one out there.
You’re acting like a hungry dude at a Costco cycling around the same free samples over and over

And your indecision makes me townread you. Congratulations.
I think I've mainly been focusing on you because 1. You're one of the most active in the game and 2. I feel like I could read you really well? Like after wolfing with you (Granted that was over a year ago) and after that last game where I DID correctly townread you but town yeeted you stupidly on Day 1, I've discovered some sort of difference.

Granted I feel like I already blew the cover a bit earlier but oh well.

While I’d like to think I would be less polarizing, I don’t have a lot of chances to test that theory these days.

It’s funny because I looked back the other day and I have gone 17 straight games of town-aligned dating back to…Jestermania, the game we were partners in. I’d like to think I could seamlessly transition into mafia again, but if there’s anyone that’s seen me wolf most intimately it’s you

I have thrown caution to the wind and realize I don’t have tooooo many posts left lol

Currently:
Townread:
Epi
Lime Coke

Townlean:
nutella
Syn
SVS
Dizzy

5-word wonder:
Rico

Scumlean:
Seanzie
Marmot
Falcon (0)

Scumread:
Thunal

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:51 am I'm actually like 50/50 on Scotty but plenty of time to figure that one out there.

You’re acting like a hungry dude at a Costco cycling around the same free samples over and over

And your indecision makes me townread you. Congratulations.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:42 am Now that Sean has left, I do think Scotty's townie.

I think his observation on Epi is the towniest thing in the thread thus far. For a bit, I thought his posts fell into the "posting performatively for the sake of it" camp, but his observation on Epi was pretty insightful and while I think he could match the tone as a wolf there, I don't think he would necessarily match the reasoning there is a wolf.

Scotty town.

My posts are always performative. I’m an actor

Q: do you think Epignosis would, as mafia, make such a flagrant error as to come in with big steel balls having not read the rules and then announcing that he is a ‘moron’?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:34 am I only know about the rules because Scotty said them.

In fact my first words were ‘This racket will have a 70 post maximum per day cycle. Exceeding this (or any other posting restriction) will result in penalty,’ followed soon after by ‘mama’

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:55 pm i am back to thunal/scotty

by the lord ruler the game is solved

What planet are you on

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:27 pm lol I ironically believe you?

In other news, falcon hasn’t checked in yet so he’s probably just mafia

This is a response to Epi btw

lol I ironically believe you?

In other news, falcon hasn’t checked in yet so he’s probably just mafia

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:48 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Let's roll.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:52 pm Well okay. Shit. I am a moron.
Why do I feel like these two thoughts don’t go together?

You pull Thunal out your ass, who has been talked about by several people as a scum read, so either you have been reading the thread to come to this vote or you’ve thrown your bowling ball straight down the middle while blindfolded.

Then you claim not to have read the rules. Your first post is responding to ????? the voices in your head ????? about the post limit.

I dunno, your whole entrance makes me feel you’re not being sincere
Okay, that's better.

What’s better?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:48 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Let's roll.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:52 pm Well okay. Shit. I am a moron.
Why do I feel like these two thoughts don’t go together?

You pull Thunal out your ass, who has been talked about by several people as a scum read, so either you have been reading the thread to come to this vote or you’ve thrown your bowling ball straight down the middle while blindfolded.

Then you claim not to have read the rules. Your first post is responding to ????? the voices in your head ????? about the post limit.

I dunno, your whole entrance makes me feel you’re not being sincere
Thunal is my partner.

To be clear- Epi can make mistakes, contrary to my original opinion of him when I first started on this site. He isn’t infallible.

But it just feels like these mistakes are performative to an extent

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:48 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Let's roll.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:52 pm Well okay. Shit. I am a moron.

Why do I feel like these two thoughts don’t go together?

You pull Thunal out your ass, who has been talked about by several people as a scum read, so either you have been reading the thread to come to this vote or you’ve thrown your bowling ball straight down the middle while blindfolded.

Then you claim not to have read the rules. Your first post is responding to ????? the voices in your head ????? about the post limit.

I dunno, your whole entrance makes me feel you’re not being sincere

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