The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:46 pm I'm aware of what the role is, you're still mafia
Meh, I doubt if he is telling the truth it’s a mafia role.
I've seen exactly that role be mafia

ok.

And I read the explanation in that game- this one he’s rickrolling. I’d let him live today to see if he decides to do some town work now that he’s dropped his shtick.

Otherwise he’ll become negative utility.

But I’ve been reading back today, and Gav’s been putting more reads together today than I’ve seen in a while, and when I look at your posts, I see someone trying to pin the day on some mislynch wherever you can find it. “Ender mafia, and if not him, then look to Scotty next”
“Gav is bad too probably”

Gav seems like the easy mislynch today. I think wolves are going to be (or should be) coming in strong today and pushing these mislynches or else they’ll be dead in the water by d4.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:47 pm I’m willing to cfd onto Falcon, though. If he was bad yesterday, he’s got 17 total posts as of today.

You’d rather falcon than dyson?

lol they could both be mafia and I’d just shrug and nod

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:01 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:54 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:45 am Kill ender tomorrow
why not today?
I don't really have the time to push people off of me before eod
ok well if you dont want to try thats fine.
I mean, I think its fair to say i've tried most of the day. I just don't have a ton of time between now and deadline
can I get a novelty list of POE so when you flip we can read it for spew or use it as a bible if you're town?
My thoughts are largely unchanged, adjusted a bit for one less slot theyre:

Ender is very likely mafia

Scotty poe on basis of sean probably being bussed, if ender flips town scotty has high chance of being mafia, if ender is red scotty is just middle poe

Between dyson/falcon/gav/tsp two have to be taken out. I think gav and jack are a pseudo difference check so gav is a great flip imo. For the other three, world building is king, but I haven't done that leg work so not sure which two make the most sense to take out based on that.

If I am town and flip before Ender, does that domino effect Ender too in your reads?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:58 am Ok well good night see you after flip, I blame scotty for not being the town leader I hoped he was if we dont get a wolf /s

lol I’m usually not town leader until the game gets pared down a little and I’m still alive for some reason.

Then town wins

Jk gav

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:14 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 am One pattern I do notice is that Nanook and TSP were on LC and now Nanook and TSP are on Gaviel. Not sure if that is coincidence or not
Fuck it I’ll speak for a little bit because I don’t think I cleared this up very well with the picture I made.
TSP and Falcon how a Townie mind melt on my role being NAI.
Also I’ve been town reading TSP since the gecko.

Go back to pictures- I understood you better

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:01 am yeah I am just going to ignore Gavial and hope someone else tells me what he's trying to say

Like ok he’s posting in word pictures, but it really isn’t that hard to understand most of all of his posts

Why you tagged me in that last post however, which uses an abundance of words, is escaping me

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:21 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:09 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:18 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:27 pm
I understand where you are coming from my vote on LC does not look good. But you're wasting your time looking at me
@Scotty
Why did you tag me in this
Think about it

I last took a math class in sophomore year of high school, I don’t have the critical thinking skills necessary I admit

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:39 pm Tony rn reminds me more of the tsp I played scum together with in rym and less like the Tony I saw in my first game here which is opposite to what I said on d1. All I know is the dude likes to powerwolf and is good at it. I do think LC is town so if gavial is town too then I think tsps approach so far is >rand scum

Agreed- reading back on day 2 if I didn’t know TSP was a main aggressor in getting Seanzie flipped, I’d be scum reading him considerably right now.

I might have to put that voting history aside if we start flipping a bunch of town tho. He got himself a lot of credit in my heart, which grew 4 sizes last night

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:04 pm Wait, I just ISOd Gav, and it's all garbage memes.

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

Are you forced to communicate this way, or is it a personal choice?

Come on, there’s no role in history that would make him post 2 days phases in bitesize memequotes. It’s the shtick he’s chosen for this game, and is going to ride it or die

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:23 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:20 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:02 pm I can confirm I got a note sent to me yesterday night, I’m assuming that was from gav?

LMAOOO I can confirm that the note I got from gav was the lyrics to this song. I would say that this role is more likely to be from a town than a mafia? I’m not sure what the intentions would be to give mafia a note giver unless there’s like a lost wolf or something

Yeah that seems like grade-F troll on a n1. Probably town indicative, sadly.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:19 pm Okay so now that I’m caught up I decided to go through some isos to see if I can get a better read on anyone. Working through them alphabetically.

Ngl when I opened Dysons iso I really was hoping I would tr him because the dude is based and hilarious and he showed excellent taste by liking one of my posts earlier and it would be dope to be on the same team as him but I am struggling to get a townread on him from his posts.

I’m not sure if this a playstyle thing or something AI

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:20 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:25 am I would vote Gavial though.

Not because they're scum.

Because their quotes shift my screen format and it irks me.
Voting for someone who isn't scum, what a scummy thing to do.

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

I’m not sure if dyson was just joking when he said this, but if he was serious then this vote feels kinda opportunistic

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:17 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.
Yes, Seanzie is most likely wolf.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:20 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:23 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:53 pm Ender, you have too many towns already. Makes me nervous
I'm just getting started.

This image doesn't load, but I can open it and it's some Minecraft thing. Very sus. Leaning wolf on Minecraft. [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
He addresses that seanzie is likely a wolf but then proceeds to vote gavial in the next post

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:33 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:14 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 am I can tell you he won't be frozen or quiet any time he rands scum.
I still dont understand why people would ever freeze or go quiet.
In the words of a Billy Joel song

P R E S S U R E
This post in particular gives a certain feeling that Ender is town.

A lot of his townreads involve him quoting a post and then saying the post is town without much of an explanation. I would say with a heavy heart that this approach does feel scummy to me. Though Like I said earlier, I’m not sure if this is a playstyle thing or not.i feel like dyson is a player I won’t be able to read well until after I’ve seen them play one or two times. I do recall that Alison did have dyson in her townpile before she died.

I haven’t seen dyson’s town game- I just played as his wolf partner and we lost mightily. His gameplay this game is very similar, and playstyle aside, he reads as green in and out (didn’t know how a doctor worked, what a tracker did, etc)

I would hope that he would use it as a springboard to try and be more involved in making actual reads, but he has been F R O Z E N and not like Elsa.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:46 pm I'm aware of what the role is, you're still mafia

Meh, I doubt if he is telling the truth it’s a mafia role.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:18 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:27 pm
I understand where you are coming from my vote on LC does not look good. But you're wasting your time looking at me
@Scotty

Why did you tag me in this

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am Joking!

Nook town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.
This was Seanzie’s only read in the game.

Do we think he spends his only read townreading his partner?

Doubtful, actually.
clearing us both?

no I was talking more about nook.

And even then I wouldn’t clear anyone because that Seanzie spew is paper thin. He did a good job of hiding his partners, but a terrible job of not appearing as an obvious wolf so…half win I guess?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:15 am @Dyson sphere @falcon45ca

You’re late to class. Be sure to pick up my mobile Starbucks order before you arrive

Also talk more please
Sorry, been busy IRL. Getting everything ready for kids back to school, and debauchery, ya know.

Point me in a direction and I'll ISO somebody

Did you know we caught a wolf while you were away?

Huzzah!

Maybe start with those that didn’t vote for the lynched wolf?

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:04 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:52 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:59 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:26 pm I’m at this weird intermediate where I tr the people Alison has outed as trs, but I don’t townread Alison herself.
I don't need you to townread me if you agree with my reads.
this is probably the towniest line youve made lol

why have you been playing differently this game? what inspired the new approach?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:07 am Agreeing with Illario that Scotty is pretty towny, seems to be very comfortable in the thread.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:13 pm This gimick sucks and I'm gonna end up dropping it real quick tbh
Something about this post makes me townread JackofHearts. Can't explain why.

And I don't know what Gavial is alignment wise. However I'm finding the pictures humorous and I will refuse to vote them Day 1.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:52 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:13 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:08 am Hi Scotty! No I don’t think we met. Ummm I like waffles wbu?
I like wolf pelts

(Wolf pelts? Not wolf pelts, silly rabbit, wolf pelt CEREAL)

Why are you so willing to call me town already?
I often throw out a lot of gut reads into the game to try and move away from rvs since I’ve never really been too into rvs. You feel comfortable in the thread and that’s enough for me to think you’re town for now

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:58 pm honestly I am just playing it by ear, ill have reads later tonight when I take time to read and brain. everyone is NAI atm tbh, even you

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:45 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:52 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:59 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:26 pm I’m at this weird intermediate where I tr the people Alison has outed as trs, but I don’t townread Alison herself.
I don't need you to townread me if you agree with my reads.
this is probably the towniest line youve made lol

why have you been playing differently this game? what inspired the new approach?
I play the way I think is best according to the gamestate.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:58 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:55 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:53 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:50 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:49 pm

ALRIGHT DUDE, THAT'S A VALID REASON.

GUYS, THIS GUY IS TOWN!
Which guy are you talking about. Me? My reason?
No, I quoted ilario.
I saw you quoted ilario but your “that is a valid reason” is not a logical response to that post. What is a valid reason in what ilario is posting there?
From my point of view, it was a logical response. I mean ilario had a valid reason to make the post he did make.
Nothing about that makes sense. And I don’t think you’re making any reads
Yes, I did make reads! Just take a look at my posts and you will find that I clearly did a lot of reading and made reads aplenty.

what on earth

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:56 pm [VOTE: dyson] aubergine

Lol

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:55 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:53 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:50 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:49 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:36 am Ilario 2 hours before end of day:

Ok, so he ilario hasn’t talked much about either Lime or Seanzie, except for asking Lime earlier why he suspected Seanzie. There was no follow up, so we really don’t know what ilario thinks of Seanzie.

Except here, where it’s not who’s on the chopping block, but rather the ‘relaxed’ feeling of the EoD.

Then 1 min later, the very next post:

Someone already had these posts queued up and ready to send to the Washington Post. Just sticks up his finger with this aside to call Seanzie town, fwiwiwiwiw

And back on to tsp who, yesterday, was lamenting the wagon on Seanzie. Easy target, because ‘obv wolf was obv trying to save his partner’. It’s too easy.

I see ilario with plenty of scum equity here

I was surprised nobody brought this up earlier. Yeah I get it looks bad. I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through. I felt like the elim yesterday was more or less going to be upto rand.
ALRIGHT DUDE, THAT'S A VALID REASON.

GUYS, THIS GUY IS TOWN!
Which guy are you talking about. Me? My reason?
No, I quoted ilario.
I saw you quoted ilario but your “that is a valid reason” is not a logical response to that post. What is a valid reason in what ilario is posting there?
From my point of view, it was a logical response. I mean ilario had a valid reason to make the post he did make.

Nothing about that makes sense. And I don’t think you’re making any reads

[VOTE: dyson] aubergine

Gav, can I rush this 2 day express please thnx

To: Your Mom

From: Scotty

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:50 pm
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:49 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:36 am Ilario 2 hours before end of day:
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:59 pm Idk how I feel about these wagons. Both main wagons feel almost too relaxed(?) for either to be mafia so I don’t feel good on voting either rn...but yeah idk I’m not familiar with either player so maybe this could just be a playstyle difference. My main issue is I don’t really have a better alternative on who we should vote so yeah, That being said I’m just gonna throw a random vanity vote for potential post game credit based on no real reasoning at all.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Ok, so he ilario hasn’t talked much about either Lime or Seanzie, except for asking Lime earlier why he suspected Seanzie. There was no follow up, so we really don’t know what ilario thinks of Seanzie.

Except here, where it’s not who’s on the chopping block, but rather the ‘relaxed’ feeling of the EoD.

Then 1 min later, the very next post:
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:37 amI have a read!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am ... nope. I lost it. Oh well.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am Joking!

Nook town.
i do think this sequence is >rand town fwiw
Someone already had these posts queued up and ready to send to the Washington Post. Just sticks up his finger with this aside to call Seanzie town, fwiwiwiwiw

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:27 pm Other than that I don’t have any new thoughts

Other than tsp is probably town. I’ve played with him as wolf and there’s a marked tonal difference between his scum game and town game

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:10 pm Tsps eod yesterday is pretty concerning
And back on to tsp who, yesterday, was lamenting the wagon on Seanzie. Easy target, because ‘obv wolf was obv trying to save his partner’. It’s too easy.

I see ilario with plenty of scum equity here

I was surprised nobody brought this up earlier. Yeah I get it looks bad. I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through. I felt like the elim yesterday was more or less going to be upto rand.
ALRIGHT DUDE, THAT'S A VALID REASON.

GUYS, THIS GUY IS TOWN!
Which guy are you talking about. Me? My reason?
No, I quoted ilario.

I saw you quoted ilario but your “that is a valid reason” is not a logical response to that post. What is a valid reason in what ilario is posting there?

Ah gavial is claiming mail man.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:49 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:36 am Ilario 2 hours before end of day:
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:59 pm Idk how I feel about these wagons. Both main wagons feel almost too relaxed(?) for either to be mafia so I don’t feel good on voting either rn...but yeah idk I’m not familiar with either player so maybe this could just be a playstyle difference. My main issue is I don’t really have a better alternative on who we should vote so yeah, That being said I’m just gonna throw a random vanity vote for potential post game credit based on no real reasoning at all.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Ok, so he ilario hasn’t talked much about either Lime or Seanzie, except for asking Lime earlier why he suspected Seanzie. There was no follow up, so we really don’t know what ilario thinks of Seanzie.

Except here, where it’s not who’s on the chopping block, but rather the ‘relaxed’ feeling of the EoD.

Then 1 min later, the very next post:
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:37 amI have a read!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am ... nope. I lost it. Oh well.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am Joking!

Nook town.
i do think this sequence is >rand town fwiw
Someone already had these posts queued up and ready to send to the Washington Post. Just sticks up his finger with this aside to call Seanzie town, fwiwiwiwiw

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:27 pm Other than that I don’t have any new thoughts

Other than tsp is probably town. I’ve played with him as wolf and there’s a marked tonal difference between his scum game and town game

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:10 pm Tsps eod yesterday is pretty concerning
And back on to tsp who, yesterday, was lamenting the wagon on Seanzie. Easy target, because ‘obv wolf was obv trying to save his partner’. It’s too easy.

I see ilario with plenty of scum equity here

I was surprised nobody brought this up earlier. Yeah I get it looks bad. I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through. I felt like the elim yesterday was more or less going to be upto rand.
ALRIGHT DUDE, THAT'S A VALID REASON.

GUYS, THIS GUY IS TOWN!

Which guy are you talking about. Me? My reason?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am Joking!

Nook town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:45 am Also Nook/Rondo probably not teamed.

This was Seanzie’s only read in the game.

Do we think he spends his only read townreading his partner?

Doubtful, actually.

Falcon never voted yesterday and besides being Waldo with 7 posts, interacted with Seanzie once, and talked about Seanzie quoting me. I’m not sure what that says, but in a vaccuum it’s probably a scummy look.

Both falcon and dyson could both be wolves and it could just be that easy.

Having inactives without help in pushing off the leading wolf wagon D1 is what did me in on Bonk mafia, and dyson was my partner then. Recency bias brings me right back around to that.

It’s just…voting there feels wrong right now because they could both just be inactive town, which a town flip would help very little in the game solve.

They should really be vigged, but I doubt in this game size we have that.

EBWOP: after LC puts TSP in the lead. It was the only vote at the time. No context for the follow, no mention of TSP prior to this

Wtf I just realized dyson is voting for TSP. That’s odd. It also came right after start of day and Lime Coke immediately voting Tsp too.

But let’s go back

Aside from his nakedly calling out Seanzie as wolf and voting Gav immediately after, we got this:

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:58 pm this is my smilie.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:13 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:51 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:26 pm I’m at this weird intermediate where I tr the people Alison has outed as trs, but I don’t townread Alison herself.
Yeah, I’m never scumreading this. Too much mindmeld.
You’re both wrong by my new metric for reading Alison
What’s the new metric?
Alison’s probably town if she agrees with me
Yes, I'm 100% sure that Alison is town.

Blatant open wolfing.

Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:17 pm [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Why.
This isn’t some sort of cop check, because he has posted previously to this vote about smilies and rainbows. This is a lazy vote after LC takes the lead, and dyson should be the counter wagon right now. Not TSP

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:48 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:14 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 am I can tell you he won't be frozen or quiet any time he rands scum.
I still dont understand why people would ever freeze or go quiet.
In the words of a Billy Joel song

P R E S S U R E
ty but today is kanye's day

Ye

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:16 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:13 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 am I can tell you he won't be frozen or quiet any time he rands scum.
I still dont understand why people would ever freeze or go quiet.
Some people don’t deal well with pressure and don’t want to incriminate themselves.

Or effort is repressed because the will to defend is an uphill battle
But everyone from towns point of view is valid. They are playing hunches so even if you are wolf and there is pressure on you, you can always argue that they are wrong because they will always have that small doubt (barring obvious circumstances)
Everyone was certain in Batman that the first lynch was going to be a wolf (Made), flipped town.

I’m not saying it makes sense or is even a strategy, I think it’s just a coping mechanism that some people have

@Dyson sphere @falcon45ca

You’re late to class. Be sure to pick up my mobile Starbucks order before you arrive

Also talk more please

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 am I can tell you he won't be frozen or quiet any time he rands scum.
I still dont understand why people would ever freeze or go quiet.

Some people don’t deal well with pressure and don’t want to incriminate themselves.

Or effort is repressed because the will to defend is an uphill battle

Good to know. Reminds me of me *wipes away tear*

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:06 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:05 am Ender, you’ve played with rondo before as scum I assume/ is he a chatterbox regardless of alignment?
yes

Rondo “EnderWiggin” DimBuckle

Ender, you’ve played with rondo before as scum I assume/ is he a chatterbox regardless of alignment?

I think this game could be explained away with what was previously said- mafia weren’t active at EoD.

Dyson and falcon is a good place to end.

Nook is a good place to start. I’d much rather flip him before dyson/falcon, and all of those before rondo.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:55 am Btw Rondo as scum does like to tie town to his scumbuddies.

I have a weirdo theory that Rondo is trying to tie a town to Nanook.

I’m not averse to that idea. Rondo certainly is still on my POE

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:37 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:31 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:35 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:07 am Check this progression. Put on your augmented reality goggles for a second and imagine if Ender is wolf. Ok, ready?
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:17 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:34 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:31 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.
Why?
Seanzie has felt more appeasing than in his town games.

Rondo is over-playing his meme-nature.

I could be jumping at shadows but Seanzie feels non-standard and I feel like Rondo is playing into what he knows I'll townread so for that reason I think he's scum.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:03 am I still wouldn’t be against a Seanzie lynch today either

Goodnight
Sleep well.

I could be down with Seanzie as well.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:05 am Because there is a chance you're town and honestly it feels like town game from you. You're just wrong and thats ok. But again this is all prepositioned with the fact that I havent brained yet. So I reserve the right to reverse my opinion on ender.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:09 am Hmmm. My vote stays for now.
Ok so that whole progression was wolf af. Finding a split between rondo and Seanzie, and rolling all the first 36 hours against Rondo. Ignores Seanzie. How bout the last like 12 hours?
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:12 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:04 am Sean obvious town tbh
Why tho?
Ok so I don’t remember the vote count totals here, but this seems prettty risky to go for Seanzie at this point if Ender is wolf. Could be said that rondo perhaps wasn’t sticking as a mislynch, and so he resignedly votes his partner, but it’s a bit too much of a potential start on a train. Why not just keep the vote on rondo? Would’ve been safer.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am Maybe voting Rondo again tbh.

I just want more than one viable wagon towards eod
Ah, well, back down we go, leaving room to switch back in case Seanzie gets too hot.

3 minutes later:
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:19 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.
I don't think he's town tbh tbh tbh.
Why even include this. Why even comment this at all? Trying to appear like he’s still a committed soldier to the Kill Seanzie Committee?

30 minutes before EoD:
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:33 pm Giving it a try is all I ask. Yeah seems really stagnant and I'm getting cold feet
Suddenly implying he wouldn’t be opposed to switching it up

5 min before EoD:
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:54 pm I think Seanzie is getting too free a pass here
Good look, if I recall it’s hinging on like 1 vote apart. Rondo and falcon at 2, and lime coke and Seanzie were tied at 3.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm Rondo's active sabotaging of saving attempts idk what to think of but it's rand!town on surface
He could have easily gone back to Rondo. The opportunity was there to switch. Would it have been too fishy for him to do so? I don’t think so, his progression was already setting himself up to be able to switch as he saw fit. He very well could have swung the tide against rondo or falcon or LC, but held fast with a leading wagon. Could have easily made it LC/Rondo lead wagon.

Everything leading up to that last 5 minutes screams wolf. And then that last 5 minutes…screams town. It could be a calculated bud. I think Ender capable of that. I don’t want to clear him by any means because that’s poopoocaca. He’s my dark horse wolf who bussed.

I do not believe more than one wolf was on the Seanzie wagon.
I put Seanzie to 3 votes with my vote, when it was 5/2 Rondo/Seanzie I changed it to 4/3.

That I remember because the lack of push back on Rondo felt really weird.
Sure that sounds right,

And as I said, your vote push there is pretty brazen and nonsensical if you’re wolf. You could have easily saved Seanzie. Everything before your voting is wolf
ok so unless Scotty / Ender is w/w I am happy to agree only one of them can be wolf with my tinfoil no way they BOTH bus and then Jack joins to sneaky credit. thats insane. So only one of Ender/Scotty/Jack could be a deep wolf?

What about…neither of us?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:20 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:17 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:20 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:09 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:06 am trim

Not necessarily. Because it is something that scum can use to force a push onto a town slot. So I’d rather wait and see to see what people do with that info to see if someone tries to use it to push me opportunistically and that way I’ll be able to catch a scum out in the process.
So you think scotty is scum?
im not sure yet, he seemed to be approaching me with an open mind. i think my biggest concern with scotty is that he was alisons strongest scumread.
I’ve noticed this, and it’s actually making me feel like Alison was killed in order to frame me

Thanks for bringing attention to that
No, Alison was killed to frame me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:03 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:01 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:00 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:59 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:51 am I'm probably gonna pass out pretty soon if you've got questions comments or concerns nows the time to air them
if you had your way, no democracy who would die today?
Gav for sure
just because of the anti-town antics or any paticular reason?
I think gimmick is >rand mafia, and his flip quasi-solves jack tol

I’ve said before that regardless of the gimmick, I think he chose to use it prior to the game and would do so in any alignment

That being said,

he’s an albatross and isn’t gaining any town points

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:50 am Sean voters are ender lime scotty and jack

In theory 4 voters out of 13 should basically never actually hit mafia without a bus

So probably scotty needs to go back into poe and idk who swaps out. Uh...tsp maybe, let's go with that. LC probably only mafia if rondo is too (based on his outbursts), I think rondo town so he's probably town independently and if im looking at teams. Jack probably town independently and his voting looked pure rather than bussing to me at a glance. I don't really have a reason to take scotty out of poe besides his vote, so back in he goes.
This is good content

When you look into a window of a bakery, you’re the person that salivates over the stale bran muffin

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:50 am Sean voters are ender lime scotty and jack

In theory 4 voters out of 13 should basically never actually hit mafia without a bus

So probably scotty needs to go back into poe and idk who swaps out. Uh...tsp maybe, let's go with that. LC probably only mafia if rondo is too (based on his outbursts), I think rondo town so he's probably town independently and if im looking at teams. Jack probably town independently and his voting looked pure rather than bussing to me at a glance. I don't really have a reason to take scotty out of poe besides his vote, so back in he goes.

I actually think ender’s post where I tie the wagons and dip was pretty towny and should give me brownie points but you do you

Oh also you’re bad

And I think your partner at this point is currently dyson

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:50 am
Dyson sphere wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:17 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.
Yes, Seanzie is most likely wolf.
Narrowed eyes at this post tbh.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:51 am Next post he votes Gavial.

Yeah, that’s pretty shite

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:46 am Also I never throw a partner under the bus unless I see a strong reason to do it. There was no reason I couldn't just prop up Falc or someone else as LC's counterwagon.

Or rondo, who you had read as scum all day then had an epiphany near eod, which out wouldn’t have needed to do

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:35 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:07 am Check this progression. Put on your augmented reality goggles for a second and imagine if Ender is wolf. Ok, ready?
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:17 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:34 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:31 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:30 pm Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.
Why?
Seanzie has felt more appeasing than in his town games.

Rondo is over-playing his meme-nature.

I could be jumping at shadows but Seanzie feels non-standard and I feel like Rondo is playing into what he knows I'll townread so for that reason I think he's scum.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:03 am I still wouldn’t be against a Seanzie lynch today either

Goodnight
Sleep well.

I could be down with Seanzie as well.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:05 am Because there is a chance you're town and honestly it feels like town game from you. You're just wrong and thats ok. But again this is all prepositioned with the fact that I havent brained yet. So I reserve the right to reverse my opinion on ender.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:09 am Hmmm. My vote stays for now.
Ok so that whole progression was wolf af. Finding a split between rondo and Seanzie, and rolling all the first 36 hours against Rondo. Ignores Seanzie. How bout the last like 12 hours?
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:01 am [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:12 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:04 am Sean obvious town tbh
Why tho?
Ok so I don’t remember the vote count totals here, but this seems prettty risky to go for Seanzie at this point if Ender is wolf. Could be said that rondo perhaps wasn’t sticking as a mislynch, and so he resignedly votes his partner, but it’s a bit too much of a potential start on a train. Why not just keep the vote on rondo? Would’ve been safer.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am Maybe voting Rondo again tbh.

I just want more than one viable wagon towards eod
Ah, well, back down we go, leaving room to switch back in case Seanzie gets too hot.

3 minutes later:
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:19 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:16 am If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.
I don't think he's town tbh tbh tbh.
Why even include this. Why even comment this at all? Trying to appear like he’s still a committed soldier to the Kill Seanzie Committee?

30 minutes before EoD:
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:33 pm Giving it a try is all I ask. Yeah seems really stagnant and I'm getting cold feet
Suddenly implying he wouldn’t be opposed to switching it up

5 min before EoD:
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:54 pm I think Seanzie is getting too free a pass here
Good look, if I recall it’s hinging on like 1 vote apart. Rondo and falcon at 2, and lime coke and Seanzie were tied at 3.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:55 pm Rondo's active sabotaging of saving attempts idk what to think of but it's rand!town on surface
He could have easily gone back to Rondo. The opportunity was there to switch. Would it have been too fishy for him to do so? I don’t think so, his progression was already setting himself up to be able to switch as he saw fit. He very well could have swung the tide against rondo or falcon or LC, but held fast with a leading wagon. Could have easily made it LC/Rondo lead wagon.

Everything leading up to that last 5 minutes screams wolf. And then that last 5 minutes…screams town. It could be a calculated bud. I think Ender capable of that. I don’t want to clear him by any means because that’s poopoocaca. He’s my dark horse wolf who bussed.

I do not believe more than one wolf was on the Seanzie wagon.
I put Seanzie to 3 votes with my vote, when it was 5/2 Rondo/Seanzie I changed it to 4/3.

That I remember because the lack of push back on Rondo felt really weird.

Sure that sounds right,

And as I said, your vote push there is pretty brazen and nonsensical if you’re wolf. You could have easily saved Seanzie. Everything before your voting is wolf

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:20 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:09 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:06 am trim

Not necessarily. Because it is something that scum can use to force a push onto a town slot. So I’d rather wait and see to see what people do with that info to see if someone tries to use it to push me opportunistically and that way I’ll be able to catch a scum out in the process.
So you think scotty is scum?
im not sure yet, he seemed to be approaching me with an open mind. i think my biggest concern with scotty is that he was alisons strongest scumread.

I’ve noticed this, and it’s actually making me feel like Alison was killed in order to frame me

Thanks for bringing attention to that

Ok I’m dead tired. Pick it up later.

Glad we got a wolf.

ISOing Seanzie next

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:00 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:36 am Ilario 2 hours before end of day:
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:59 pm Idk how I feel about these wagons. Both main wagons feel almost too relaxed(?) for either to be mafia so I don’t feel good on voting either rn...but yeah idk I’m not familiar with either player so maybe this could just be a playstyle difference. My main issue is I don’t really have a better alternative on who we should vote so yeah, That being said I’m just gonna throw a random vanity vote for potential post game credit based on no real reasoning at all.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Ok, so he ilario hasn’t talked much about either Lime or Seanzie, except for asking Lime earlier why he suspected Seanzie. There was no follow up, so we really don’t know what ilario thinks of Seanzie.

Except here, where it’s not who’s on the chopping block, but rather the ‘relaxed’ feeling of the EoD.

Then 1 min later, the very next post:
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:37 amI have a read!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am ... nope. I lost it. Oh well.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am Joking!

Nook town.
i do think this sequence is >rand town fwiw
Someone already had these posts queued up and ready to send to the Washington Post. Just sticks up his finger with this aside to call Seanzie town, fwiwiwiwiw

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:27 pm Other than that I don’t have any new thoughts

Other than tsp is probably town. I’ve played with him as wolf and there’s a marked tonal difference between his scum game and town game

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:10 pm Tsps eod yesterday is pretty concerning
And back on to tsp who, yesterday, was lamenting the wagon on Seanzie. Easy target, because ‘obv wolf was obv trying to save his partner’. It’s too easy.

I see ilario with plenty of scum equity here

I was surprised nobody brought this up earlier. Yeah I get it looks bad. I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through. I felt like the elim yesterday was more or less going to be upto rand.
if you knew it looked bad why didnt you bring it up first?

I mean…lol why would he bring it up? I’m not gonna bring up how many boogers I’ve picked in the bathroom prior to meeting a blind date, so why should ilario explain suspicious habits?

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:00 am Though my question to you Scotty is that why is my handling of seanzie one that has high scum equity whereas when I’m concerned on tsp, it seems as though you’re okay to give him a pass? On one hand I wasn’t sure on the wagons so I decided to iso both the slots in contention and the one game related line I found I thought was slightly villagery, whereas tsp actively tried to steer the wagon away from seanzie much more vocally. Why is the latter less concerning to you?

That’s fair. I’ll go back to Tsp further. Honestly I’m cherry picking my top suspicions in the night, and hadn’t fully ISO’d Tsp, only that the EoD stood out to me as a play with an incorrect townie or a terrible wolf. I would just give tsp more credit than to actively oppose a Seanzie “obvious town” lynch if he was wolf, but I’ll give him a looksie later anyway

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