The Syndicate

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:56 pm god these are bad scotty posts

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:55 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

What’s this now?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:54 pm Sup. Imma miss yall

Where you going?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm It's funny falcon45ca's vote counts as 0 in the poll.
Could be a sign

I don’t wanna angleshoot but
I think that should be an error but now it's bugging me.

ok this isn’t really a read right? Lol

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:53 pm the comedy world is one where scotty tried to distance from sig and then had to backpedal when the wagon picked up traction unexpectedly

do i think that's likely? no, but the thought amused me

Nah I’d be bussing him for cred if he were my partner

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm It's funny falcon45ca's vote counts as 0 in the poll.
Could be a sign

I don’t wanna angleshoot but
ur a host and a mod what the fuck is this post

and?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm It's funny falcon45ca's vote counts as 0 in the poll.
Wait is that supposed to be intentional?

Doubtful- it invoked a host post.

I don’t see any problems besides that and the guest post atm. I can switch fine and it updates

I don’t know what this 6-3 deal is tho

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 pm It's funny falcon45ca's vote counts as 0 in the poll.

Could be a sign

I don’t wanna angleshoot but

Still waiting for pyxxy to come back during lunch to do something productive instead of ding dong ditching with his vote on me

Were we at. Tied 4-4?

Lucy’s switch off me is incredibly towny.

Only because I know I’m town

Actually could someone post the actual poll? I think my phone’s glitching out. Says falcon is voting for Gira but he isn’t

Got a damned ghost in here voting for sig now

The f is this now?

sig
4
27%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega, Creature, srceenplay, 1 vote from guest

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:17 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:14 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:00 pm holy crap that ending to UVA-Furman was wild
my bracket is already busted. My wife is the only one in my pool that is still perfect
I haven't even filled one out the past couple of years, it's been very freeing

March madness is always freeing. I Venmo $20 away one brisk morning in March and never see it again. It happens every year.

The consistency is freeing

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:13 pm When I am ‘caught’ on D1’s as wolf, it’s less of a ‘caught’ more than a confbias that I would be acting a certain way to be obv wolf.

Make sure you jot that down in your meta notebook I know you keep by your bedside, nutella

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:13 pm falcon isn't known to be a *loud* towny voice when town, but at least *a* towny voice

he has not been anything

Very true

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:13 pm I am going for sig. I might also do pyxxy if I get support.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

You have my support

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:03 pm @Scotty like I said this AM, if it isn’t an AtE ploy (and I think it probably isn’t) I like Mafia but not enough to do something that feels dickish, like voting for a person in emotional pain.

But the fact that she came in and felt better and left, I can sleep tonight lol

No I hear you- your reasoning isn’t unfounded, and it make sense. I still stand by that your case throughout this day has been easy.

But I’m less pushy and took away my blinders on you for the moment because you have a point lol

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:00 pm holy crap that ending to UVA-Furman was wild

my bracket is already busted. My wife is the only one in my pool that is still perfect

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:58 pm I think Scotty bringing up an absurd point about static wagons could maybe just be intentionally trying to push reactions and discussion. Scotty kind of strikes me as the player that would say something absurd to prompt reactions from other players. But Scotty also strikes me as the player that would fake it as wolf too so I'm damned.

Yes to both points

But I would also add

That I have sparked discussion, and even if I am a wolf in this scenario, the odds of me being a helpful town down the line should outweigh the ‘weirdness’ or whatever people have of voting me.

When I am ‘caught’ on D1’s as wolf, it’s less of a ‘caught’ more than a confbias that I would be acting a certain way to be obv wolf.

I would argue that my alignment is much more discernible as the days go on.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:58 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:57 pm I’m not even latch onto falcon as a self preservation.

I want those on my wagon to come to the conclusion there are better options or I’ll just phase out like my wife’s sweet bagel that the bagel shop forgot to put in the bag this morning (shhhhhh I ate it)
i could maybe compromise on sig but by the laws of the universe if we elim him d1 he will flip town no matter what

Well, yes. Probably

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:56 pm Oh well I just got bored.

Why is it that when people get bored they come and post about it?

Though I’ve never been bored, so I can’t relate I guess

I’m not even latch onto falcon as a self preservation.

I want those on my wagon to come to the conclusion there are better options or I’ll just phase out like my wife’s sweet bagel that the bagel shop forgot to put in the bag this morning (shhhhhh I ate it)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:53 pm also i think scotty is prob just town now fellas like cmon

I mean yes

but

*i always was*

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:48 pm Actually I’m about to do a 180.

I just iso’d doom’s post, and removed most of the off topic posts to get to the meat of her posts:
Spoiler: show
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:29 pm I kind of agree with the Gira wolf read though

tell me more

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:20 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:02 pm Has Nutella ever been elim’d day 1?
Yes.
I'm not voting nutella today

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:52 pm I think calling a "wagon" static when its 16 hours from EOD in a 14 player game makes you look ridiculous. and possibly mafia

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:01 am who is svs

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:03 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:01 am who is svs
their username is svs or like maybe s~v~s or something, so like... SVS is SVS, that isn't an acronym.
I have successfully distanced, they aren't named SVS in our discord chat

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:05 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:04 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:04 am I'm not killing any females d1/2

Get rekt men.
ur voting me
I'm voting you right now.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:05 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:05 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:04 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:04 am I'm not killing any females d1/2

Get rekt men.
ur voting me
I'm voting you right now.
Alright I am voting sig now

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:10 am tbf Scotty is my only real scum read

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:53 am how I'm not town read by people blows my mind

my solving is so strong

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:56 am I agree on the sig post

And I gotta agree with SVS that these just seem like baddie post padding lol.

I think it’s especially important because of this post made early on:
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Ah yes because I can't 500 post I must be mafia. Sloonei moment
try being me, as either alignment I can fool anyone in this game, but then I have actual life responsibilities that hamper my mafia game

fucking spring break and I have more shit to do than a normal week
Complains about lack of time, implying that with more time Doom feels comfortable fooling people as wolf.

Most of their posts have been fluff, seemingly to appear involved without having to actually be involved. It’s almost as if doom feels compelled to have a presence in the thread to appear town to make up for the fact that they’re a bit too busy to sustain their normal mafia output.

Reads are scarce. She agrees with multiple people about cases and agrees they could be wolves, with a declaration last night that I was her only scum read. Did she vote me? Doesn’t look like it.

I no longer have a town read on doom, and actually lump her towards the bottom.
I just want you to remember that when I flip town, it's actually true that I post way better as mafia compared to my town game

I actually don’t doubt that you do, and that’s the point I was going on about- I think you don’t have the time to post as well as you normally would so you’re just posting for posting sake to try and make up for it

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:40 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:00 pm Neon and Lucy voting me is meh.

Seanzie’s vote on me is an enigma.

Hey @DaughterOfOmega am I still your only scum read?

Why is that?
Idk, I haven't really felt much from others

I thought Creature and SVS came off as towny

I could kill several people though

oh hi

What about svs comes off as towny?

Actually I’m about to do a 180.

I just iso’d doom’s post, and removed most of the off topic posts to get to the meat of her posts:

Spoiler: show

And I gotta agree with SVS that these just seem like baddie post padding lol.

I think it’s especially important because of this post made early on:

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Ah yes because I can't 500 post I must be mafia. Sloonei moment
try being me, as either alignment I can fool anyone in this game, but then I have actual life responsibilities that hamper my mafia game

fucking spring break and I have more shit to do than a normal week

Complains about lack of time, implying that with more time Doom feels comfortable fooling people as wolf.

Most of their posts have been fluff, seemingly to appear involved without having to actually be involved. It’s almost as if doom feels compelled to have a presence in the thread to appear town to make up for the fact that they’re a bit too busy to sustain their normal mafia output.

Reads are scarce. She agrees with multiple people about cases and agrees they could be wolves, with a declaration last night that I was her only scum read. Did she vote me? Doesn’t look like it.

I no longer have a town read on doom, and actually lump her towards the bottom.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:17 pm I’m I suspect Doom and Lucy for ostensibly better reasons than you suspect me.

And I was looking for the cases on people who had votes, and Gira was vote leader at that time.

I went though your iso to read your case again for clarity in case I missed something.

And note that I do see a progression. It didn’t appear to me before.

I think there’s something about the tone of how you’re leading into your reads that seems phoned in.

Like, you say Doom was baddie post padding, and using a lot of stuff that wasn’t relevant. I think that can be a low hanging fruit argument, however. It’s D1, so making tenuous reads on seemingly nothing is what we do. So I’m not going to say it’s a bad read, but it’s safe.

You felt bad, and wanted to hedge to someone else- lucy- who felt more “pissy” than “pissed”, which you associate with town lucy. Ok.

So you have 2 baddies in your back pocket in case you need to address you reads down the line, like we’re doing now. You then look at some of us that had votes, like creature/gira/sig/a bit of me, and determine we all look townish, so you can rest on your laurels with your original mafia reads,

Into today, doom didn’t answer and seems to be in a better headspace, so you have a continuation vote for doom. I don’t feel like anything changed for you to make that, besides being rested. Like, vote doom if you think she’s bad.

Tl;dr: Dunno, I just feel like svs day 1 progression has made *sense*, but it’s easy.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:02 pm why are pyxxy and svs paired? just because they hadn't voted?
Good question. I explained that I was holding my vote until the person I had the strongest feels for addressed my concerns, but she was here, posted fluff, and left.

And like Doom, Scotty didn’t address my reply to him, pointing out where he was incorrect.

@Seanzie ill consolidate a bit later but want to get my vanity vote on the table.

[VOTE: DaughterofOmega] aubergine since she feels better now so I don’t feel like a bad person for voting her.

What would you like me to address? I’m here

Listen I’m not very good or even self professedly accurate at reading people D1 until a flip is made, but I feel like I’m in a pretty nice spot to be making more critical reads, seeing as I have the most votes.

When I am pressured, it’s far easier to look at things with pragmatic clarity

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:07 pm I don't think svs holding onto her vote until later is AI

I’ve said as much in my initial post about her

What we know with SVs is that she may still think doom is bad, but isn’t voting there for emotional reasons?? So she is “probably going to vote lucy” at end of day for associations with doom. Followed by another waffly ‘but I agree with you Scotty that had wagon seems static’
-spends a long post looking at gira, waffling, but ultimately defending gira

So who does she actually suspect in this game and why?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:04 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:16 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:22 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:17 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:02 am I could give up my breath today, I don’t mind
gimme
what's with u wanting breaths so much
pyxxy not lightsong confirmed
mr mech hasn't read the entire setup, eh
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:44 pm Flavor list:
Spoiler: show
Blushweaver - The epitome of beauty and often seen in revealing gowns of green and silver, Blushweaver sees herself as the goddess of love and romance. She is determined to see Hallandren improve and takes her role role as a god seriously.

Bluefingers - An older man and servant of the God King's palace, Bluefingers earned his nickname as his fingers seem perpetually stained with blue ink.

Clod - A Lifeless; a corpse reanimated by breath to serve their master's commands, Clod is a skilled warrior maintained by Jewels.

Dedelin - The king of Idris, father of Vivenna, Ridger, Fafen, and Siri. In doing what he believes is the best for his kingdom, Dedelin faces an impossible decision that will determine the fate of Idris.

Denth - An exceptional swordsman dressed in nondescript clothing, Denth is a Mercenary working with Jewels and Tonk Fah.

Hoid - A master storyteller, Hoid is summoned to the Hallandren Court of the Gods by Lightsong the Bold to recount historical tales.

Jewels - A blunt and irritable woman, Jewels maintains the lifeless Clod, restoring the corpse to working order whenever needed.

Lemex - An Idrian merchant living in the capital city of Hallandren, Lemex serves as the chief spy for King Dedelin.

Llarimar - A tall, portly man with spectacles and a calm demeanor, Llarimar serves as the high priest of Lightsong the Bold.

Siri - Third born princess of Idris, her role was that of redundancy. With little expected of her, she spent her days ignoring her tutors and pushing boundaries. While she has the Royal Locks, she has very poor control over them.

Tonk Fah - A man of great size, a capable warrior and extremely strong, Tonk Fah serves as a mercenary alongside Denth and Jewels.

Treledees - High Priest to the God King, he wears ornate clothing and acts with authority. Clever, observant and covert, Treledees is a devoted man and takes his role seriously.

Vivenna - Firstborn princess of Idris, she was raised and trained to be the bride to the Hallandren God King. In strict adherence to Idrian belief, she garbs herself in simple clothing and maintains a strong control of the Royal Locks, keeping her hair a solid black in color.
Please note that all players, even power roles and scum will receive one of these flavor roles as an alias. Flavor roles will be randomized prior to alignments and power roles. Flavor roles will not have any impact upon player alignment and is mostly for fun/fluff.
also maybe you've already considered but what if [REDACTED MECH GAME THEORY]

tread lightly, scotty
oh pyxxy had this thing

i did not understand what this is but i got the sense it's not a wolf thing probably?

Pyxxy is someone that I have learned is very into mech, and in this game seemed to have this shared idea with me about why he wants everyone’s breath, but it’s like he’s a stranger coming up to me in the bar, whispering “code tangerine”, snapping exactly 6 times and following up with “you know where to find me” before exiting to the bathroom.

No, pyxxy, I don’t know where to find you. I think you’re making up a premise to appear town and are being deceptively vague about it

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:02 pm why are pyxxy and svs paired? just because they hadn't voted?

More that I scum read them both, ergo partners

Svs because her re entrance and reasoning answering me didn’t answer anything. I said she didn’t have a strong suspicion on anyone and was waffling, so she came in and said “no! I suspected doom! But then I felt bad, so I backed off”

She mentioned someone else that might be suspicious, that she’ll check out later- **didn’t vote there** - and then peaced.

I’ve stated why pyxxy is now in my tunnel

I have a target in mind to give my breath to if I do indeed go over today

Like I don’t even really mind being the sacrificial lamb if need be, but I gotta shoot my shot

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

y’all, it’s obviously pyxxy

uh huh

Neon and Lucy voting me is meh.

Seanzie’s vote on me is an enigma.

Hey @DaughterOfOmega am I still your only scum read?

Why is that?

Yeah I’m getting a pretty good feeling right now that pyxxy and svs could be paired.

Falcon isn’t my favorite vote because he could go either way but I don’t have a reason *not* to vote him

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:49 pm Hey everyone, it's time to consolidate votes.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
@Scotty @sig I recommend choosing a non-vanity wagon for wagonomics

@S~V~S @pyxxy uhh... vote plz.

The wolves haven’t voted

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:22 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:36 am sean why do you think gira has gotten better? why dont you feel the way i do:(
I liked their recent post to Screenplay.

After reading the exchanges, I’ve felt Gira has been down to earth, showing their undershirt. Was confused if they were new because I don’t recognize but it sounds like they’re a veteran?

Gira is putting up content at least today, and while they’re a bit waffly in their positions (sometimes nakedly so) I don’t think I need to hold that agains them

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:14 pm srceen and pyxxy have been in kinda weird spots on the sidelines i dont know what to do with them yet

I agree with this.

Pyxxy basically nodded at my mech talk, made some vague winky blinkies about why he wants to suck my breath away and then flew up into the rafters like a vampire

Nothing about pyxxy reads as town

Srceen came in with some takes early- confident- and hadn’t done anything with them.

Falcon is on my list of someone I have no town vibe from

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:15 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:13 pm i still have some concerns about scotty but am conflicted

generally i vibe enough with that sorting that i'll try to work with the catboy for now :curtain: (@Marmot can we add curtain here lol)

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
i promise to give it another look over and think more deeply about it but i think sig is scummier than scotty and if if sig is mafia that would be a good look for scotty imo

Now that people have come around to seeing sig as scummy, I’m thinking he’s not.

I don’t have a lot of good meta reads, but in general, the scummier sig looks on D1, the more likely he is a miss

He has only gotten scummier as the day has gone on

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:42 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:39 am Hey if nothing else, I helped get discussion going today.

*pats self on back*

I’m going to bed
Don't feel the need to comeback tomorrow, I've already decided to kill you

Don’t throw your damned sword at me, I don’t want it

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:40 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:24 pm All that said, I actually don’t get good vibes from SVS and think she is phoning it in today. She hasn’t voted yet and while that’s not AI, I haven’t got the impression she is making any waves nor do I know who she would vote for. She lightly defends sig, and puts a bit of suspicion on Doom, but isn’t going there?

I dunno. Nothing has thrilled me from her solving today. It’s like she doesn’t want to get her hands wet, if that makes any sense
is she normally someone who makes waves? my first impression as someone who was unfamiliar was that she seemed really towny

I’m not an expert on SVS, but I know she isn’t afraid to get down and dirty and make strong cases. Day 1 is gonna Day 1 and cases are flimsier than a paper plate covered in baked beans but I don’t get the impression she has worked to make any cases.

Seems hedgy

Hey if nothing else, I helped get discussion going today.

*pats self on back*

I’m going to bed

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:36 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:32 am
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:31 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:27 am Based on your first paragraph, what do you think of me, Gira?
you seem surface-level fine so far and the suspicion of sig was one i found acceptable (more on that when i catch up)

i don't have deeper thoughts on your alignment
I made a blanket 3 names that are bad without further explanation post. What do you think of them donuts
sometimes accusations without a case are useful

i'll have to try to read your mind and guess why you think those names are bad and see if i like the reasons

this might sound like i'm being flippant or sarcastic but i'm not, really

the thing is i don't really like people throwing out lists of 3 names with not much else, i think that's not protown gameplay.

I see

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:31 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:30 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:27 am People taking this game way too seriously, it's day one and nothing we do today really matters.
Give me your breath
I've never kissed someone, and I don't plan on doing it now.

Oh no, no kidding. I’m married.

All ya gotta do is breathe. It’s like a root canal shot- quick and painless!

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:31 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:30 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:25 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:02 am
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 pm Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am
I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game
ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?
It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.
Im more pushing to convince others to vote for someone not on the lucy wagon- someone not voting, actually
i don't vote all that often btw, creature and someone else can probs confirm that

NAI aside, you have been strangely pacifistic in your approach this game.

I have no idea who you suspect. All I got from you the past hour of talking is you either SR or TR me

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