The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:25 am Yeah if you're looking for another game, Steely Dan should be first consideration. Thing needs to be started.

Yup, signed up for it towards the end of this game.

I knew I wasn't totally useless.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:29 pm Quick analysis notes to start off because I'm low on time:

Day one lynch is really bad for mafia. Day one judgekill is even worse.
This is a very swing-y game. If Jack had managed to kill nutella and managed one more day he probably could have soupkilled to victory.
The wrong roles made it to endgame. Even deadchat was convinced that scum was Sprit or Jack. But Jack couldn't counterclaim with nutella alive, and didn't gamble it.
Town did some gambling as well. If there were two scum left on the last day, the claims would have sunk the game entirely.
Leeroy and Judge are two roles that can cause more harm than good. In this game they were incredibly pro-town.

Alas, Epi never managed to get his revenge-kill off, despite taunting the entire thread all game.

Just some random thoughts. Well played to all, regardless. Game was closer than it looked.

Did any of you enjoy the game?

Is this something epi does regularly? He had me totally thrown. I didn't get it.

Thanks for a good game [mention]speedchuck[/mention]

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:21 pm I did not think town could win so convincingly in a game without role reveals. Nice.

I think this is maybe my third proper game of mafia. The no flips was definitely trickier.

Hurrah

Let's hope it's Jack...

I haven't played many games here, but does this poll title hint that there is only one witch left? Or is this just worded that way because we can only lynch one player?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:53 am @MacDougall
@Spacedaisy
@Neverwhere

This isn’t a hammer game. It’s maj at deadline.

Yup. I've not been around much today, so my vote is in now in case.

Im not sure about epi, but I don't think many other people are feeling that way/ my posts stating that suspicion have been ignored, so im assuming no one else feels that way.

Well, it looks like it's already been decided.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:47 pm If it's a simple missed kill then it's Spacedaisy.

Agreed. Spacdaisy and epi would be my two for suspects.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:30 pm I checked Mac and he's a witch. Good game, good hustle.

I don't understand your quoted posts. This is the post I was referring to. I missed out on a subsequent post that was nothing but and emoticon to indicate maybe you were joking? I don't know, I am not familiar with how you play. anyway, I don't understand your game here. I don't trust you.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:25 pm Juliets could have been the marter, I suppose.

i thought martyr save was obvious?

That's what it says on the tin.

More likely they are going to leave me as lynch target for tomorrow. May change my mind about role claiming.

My vote would be leaning epi at this stage. He's role claimed multiple times that he's Mordecai, but been largely ignored and had not much in the way of intel other than claiming that Mac is a witch and then going on to support a lot of what Mac has to do/ say. It doens't make sense to me, or am I missing something?

Okay, thanks! I don't know most of the jargon yet.

What does POE mean btw?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:11 am My POE are the 3 that voted for Sloonei. This is good because I feel if Muugen was a civ and this was a civ/civ lynch they split their vote here. I am quietly confident that Muugen was Mafia.

Neverwhere is the one I would lynch first of the three. Spacedaisy and Epi have more going for them. Neverwhere's reaction to me putting them in the POE was also a bit head scratching to me even though I let it go at the time.

I misunderstood and thought you were angling to Lynch me, which was frustrating as if luna was mafia, which I believe her to be, my history wouldn't indicate scum.

I wasn't totally sure about either of them. Muug kinda went under my radar. I put a temp vote down in a hurry and wasn't anticipating day end so soon.

I can understand spacedaisy, but what makes you believe epi has more going for him?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:11 am My POE are the 3 that voted for Sloonei. This is good because I feel if Muugen was a civ and this was a civ/civ lynch they split their vote here. I am quietly confident that Muugen was Mafia.

Neverwhere is the one I would lynch first of the three. Spacedaisy and Epi have more going for them. Neverwhere's reaction to me putting them in the POE was also a bit head scratching to me even though I let it go at the time.

I misunderstood and thought you were angling to Lynch me, which was frustrating as if luna was mafia, which I believe her to be, my history wouldn't indicate scum.

I wasn't totally sure about either of them. Muug kinda went under my radar. I put a temp vote down in a hurry and wasn't anticipating day end so soon.

I can understand spacedaisy, but what makes you believe epi has more going for him?

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:56 pm I just have one question about @speedchuck list of kills on the first page. Why is muriel crossed out in front of slooneis name?

Oh stupid me, sorry I was getting a charcter name mixed up with the player sloonei replaced. I forgot about that.

I just have one question about [mention]speedchuck[/mention] list of kills on the first page. Why is muriel crossed out in front of slooneis name?

What the fuck is a coffee tell? I was literally trying to joke with mac. I had already stated I posted right after I woke up.

Also I'm not the only one who has called out daisy. She literally hasn't voted this entire game and we need majority votes for lynches.

I may be over compensating. I am pretty new to mafia, I had to drop out of my last two games and I struggled to contribute in those so now that I have time I am trying.

Also, yeah [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] where you at? You haven't voted this entire game.

Kiddo is on Easter break, so it's hard to do much at once right now. For srs this child never sleeps.

Re-reading slooneis posts, I would be leaning towards a sloonei vote. Potential mafia skating? they post a heck of a lot for someone who claims to have no time to be bothered with this game. I always struggle with games with a lot of activity, but this game really isn't that intensive. They also were dropped in a day late, and again, with not a huge amount of posting, it doesnt take much to get caught up. For so many posts you think there would be a few more opinions.

The minion is calling, I'm going to try and reread muugen and nova later on.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:51 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:31 pm Probably Sloonei

Who would you go for after me?

Muugen. Then if the game wasn't over I'd probably be looking at Spacedaisy or Neverwhere.

I just woke up, so will contribute later but

Why would I be next? You've consistently said through out the game you read me as town. You mentioned that I was one of the only ones who KEPT my vote on lunalee and tried to make sure I took care fo that because I believed she was a witch. It would have been easier for me to switch my vote to you to try to get a majority. ALSO in the jack vs. sabie vote I did the same as you, I reread Jacks posts and talked myself out of his guilt so switched my vote back to sabie. I don't see how you could be reading me as next in line for scum.

Relax I don't think you are Mafia. I said I'd look at you if the game was still going and Muugen and Sloonei were dead.

I had not yet consumed a caffeinated beverage, my apologies.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:31 pm Probably Sloonei

Who would you go for after me?

Muugen. Then if the game wasn't over I'd probably be looking at Spacedaisy or Neverwhere.

I just woke up, so will contribute later but

Why would I be next? You've consistently said through out the game you read me as town. You mentioned that I was one of the only ones who KEPT my vote on lunalee and tried to make sure I took care fo that because I believed she was a witch. It would have been easier for me to switch my vote to you to try to get a majority. ALSO in the jack vs. sabie vote I did the same as you, I reread Jacks posts and talked myself out of his guilt so switched my vote back to sabie. I don't see how you could be reading me as next in line for scum.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:21 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:28 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:00 am This game feels like nobody is really giving a shit and that looked like a save on Jack, in the main by Epignosis's manipulation techniques.

Yeah, I'm feeling the same way, honestly. I may be shit at mafia, but at least I was trying. Epi in particular sticks out to me as really not giving a shit. Granted I don't really remember epi and how he plays, but I don't have a good feel about him. I also don't get the role claiming, I don't know if I trust him.

I did have a town read on spacedaisy, but it is bothering me that she's not showing up for votes.

Also, I was super tired right last night but I don't really remember seeing much of a jack save? I had it tied with my vote on jack and when nova questioned me about my feelings on both candidates, I reread an thought sabie might have been the safer vote. You had both players in top two spots for mafia, so why is this bothering you? Just curious about your thought process.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Tell her what she's won, Johnny.

Rude. Where is my prize?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:00 am This game feels like nobody is really giving a shit and that looked like a save on Jack, in the main by Epignosis's manipulation techniques.

Yeah, I'm feeling the same way, honestly. I may be shit at mafia, but at least I was trying. Epi in particular sticks out to me as really not giving a shit. Granted I don't really remember epi and how he plays, but I don't have a good feel about him. I also don't get the role claiming, I don't know if I trust him.

I did have a town read on spacedaisy, but it is bothering me that she's not showing up for votes.

Also, I was super tired right last night but I don't really remember seeing much of a jack save? I had it tied with my vote on jack and when nova questioned me about my feelings on both candidates, I reread an thought sabie might have been the safer vote. You had both players in top two spots for mafia, so why is this bothering you? Just curious about your thought process.

My initial vote for jack made it 3-3.

Also, epi, if i were scum i wouldnt have posted all that reasoning. it would draw unnecessary attention to me. Up unitl that point I had people either ignoring me entirely or saying they had me as a town read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:25 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:24 pm Oh. The poll end time showed up in my time zone. I assume it was US time and that this would be going on till 5 am my time. That is nice to know.

You can correct this in the User Control Panel so that the site displays your desired timezone.

Yeah, I know. I meant that I thought I hadn't set this up, so when the poll said it was closing at 12.10 am I assumed it would be 5.10 am my time. I just wanted to clarify, as all of my recent posts were talking about me needing to get my vote in quickly before bed and not being able to see how it all unfolded at the end with possible last minute changes etc. I assumed I would be asleep.

Oh. The poll end time showed up in my time zone. I assume it was US time and that this would be going on till 5 am my time. That is nice to know.

Re-reading both sabie and jacks posts, I'm changing my vote to sabie purely based on if luna was scum, sabie tried to steer us away while jack did mentioned her as possible scum once. Also sabie not posting much could be mafia skating.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:40 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:39 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:30 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

I'm in a different timezone, so I am running out of time for a vote. It's almost midnight here, so I need to vote now. Out of the two players who seemed to be getting votes, Jack and Sabie, I picked Jack because I'm not totally sure about Sabies guilt and I was suspicious of a few people choosing to vote for her. Since we need a majority, Jack made the most sense. It wouldn't make sense for me to put one vote on someone else and fuck up the majority. Unfortunately, I can't be more helpful than that because my sleep is more important.

What makes you hesitant about Sabies guilt?

Honestly, Sabie has posted very little, so there's not much to go on. She's just had it out from Mac, which I'm not 100% sure I get seeing as it' pretty much the start of the game and there has been so little to go on. He/she hasn't even mentioned anyone else, scum or otherwise.

Doing another read, I suppose the only other thing Sabie did do is try to lead us away from Luna yesterday, and I suppose Mac was being difficult, so he was an easy target. Damn it, now I've confused myself again. I've actually talked myself into Sabie being scum, which means I need to re-evaluate other people as that was the only reason I didn't put a vote there.

Curse you, I shall never sleep. >.<

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:30 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

I'm in a different timezone, so I am running out of time for a vote. It's almost midnight here, so I need to vote now. Out of the two players who seemed to be getting votes, Jack and Sabie, I picked Jack because I'm not totally sure about Sabies guilt and I was suspicious of a few people choosing to vote for her. Since we need a majority, Jack made the most sense. It wouldn't make sense for me to put one vote on someone else and fuck up the majority. Unfortunately, I can't be more helpful than that because my sleep is more important.

I don't have a great read on Jack anyway, so I'm okay with this lynch.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:13 pm I have not read most of the thread and I do not intend to.

Scum.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:44 pm Epignosis - I'm not too familiar with most players, so maybe this is just how he plays, but I don't really get epis style right now. It doesn't seem particularly helpful, a lot of which is just him bitching about the game. Also, did he role claim mordecai? No one seems to be talking about that, or if they are they are asking the same question "did that just happen" and no one is discussing. Scum reading for now.

That's because I'm not being particularly helpful.

Why should anyone be discussing my Mordeclaim?

Please don't beat me, sir.

I don't know, you seem to be roleclaiming but with 0 helpful information and if you were actually that particular role you'd be setting yourself up to be killed which doesn't help civillians at all if you were mordecai?

Read back through sabies posts and I'm really not sure. It's like Mac vs. Sabie. I'm willing to give Mac the benefit of the doubt tonight to see if his info is good. If he doesn't die over night then I guess we know?

I am inclined to believe Mac for now and see how that plays out. I wasn't sure about him yesterday, so I stuck with Luna, but he seems to be genuinely contributing today. Not sure I get the Sabie thing and I'm not sure how much I trust some of the players voting for them. Going to go back and do some reading cause Sabie kind of snuck under my radar.

Sorry, needy child making it hard for to reply the last day or so.

Epignosis - I'm not too familiar with most players, so maybe this is just how he plays, but I don't really get epis style right now. It doesn't seem particularly helpful, a lot of which is just him bitching about the game. Also, did he role claim mordecai? No one seems to be talking about that, or if they are they are asking the same question "did that just happen" and no one is discussing. Scum reading for now.

@Sprityo - why are you hung up on Brick and his kill? From what I'm reading of the roles, Brick has no special ability other than being able to choose who to kill in the event there is no majority vote. It's just one players opinion, so why would it be important?

@Sloonei - why did you want to hold off on Mac roleclaiming? He had already outed himself at that stage, so telling him to hold off on intel seemed pointless if he was telling the truth and guarateed to die tonight. Slight scum read for me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:01 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:11 pm We have an hour left. I could lynch amongst Luna, Nutella, Mac and Sabie.

!

Pla

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:12 pm Player salad

Oh never mind.

Seriously, I think being explicitly open to multiple lynches is a better town strategy in maj games. Harder to cfd (is hot potato a think we are saying now?) and much harder to personally push a lynch. Half of old HCRealms days had the lynch determined hours and hours before eod. The other half were mostly no lynches. Also eod is timed between when I pick up the kids and put them down for bed, which is the worst time for me.

What I’m saying is “let’s individually think of the differences between how scum and town will say things similar to Jay’s player salad because I am going to lean on doing exactly that like it’s Bill Withers.”

As someone not in the know, could you please explain all mafia references for those of us who may not know?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:08 pm Y'all Luna is obvbad come on

Why do you say obviously?

I can't see us getting a 7 vote on Luna in the next few minutes

I'd be okay with switching to Mac if we can get a 7 vote.

Nova, im curious as to what way you are leaning.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:50 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:45 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:23 pm Damn, I wrote a post and went back to look and it got deleted.

Okay, I feel alright about Daisy and juliets for the moment. They seem genuine to me.

Nova and Luna pinged me this morning just because of their back and forth about game mechanics, but I don't really feel confident in game mechanics yet, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

Not sure how I feel about Epi. I get he's busy, but he seems defensive.

I'm not sure I understand the Nutella suggestion? Willing to give t hem and the monkeys the benefit of the doubt.

Unsure of Mac.

I'd go with Luna, Mac, Epi as my three.

What pinged you about it? Also how exactly were you pinged about it? It's an exchange, we're two people, are we both bad?

I think it was Lunas supposed sarcasm about role claiming.

So where did I (Nova) ping you?

Ugh sorry, I haven't slept in a week and I was not being clear. You did not ping me. I understand it was an exchange. Lunas part in the exchange made me look at her

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:23 pm Damn, I wrote a post and went back to look and it got deleted.

Okay, I feel alright about Daisy and juliets for the moment. They seem genuine to me.

Nova and Luna pinged me this morning just because of their back and forth about game mechanics, but I don't really feel confident in game mechanics yet, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

Not sure how I feel about Epi. I get he's busy, but he seems defensive.

I'm not sure I understand the Nutella suggestion? Willing to give t hem and the monkeys the benefit of the doubt.

Unsure of Mac.

I'd go with Luna, Mac, Epi as my three.

What pinged you about it? Also how exactly were you pinged about it? It's an exchange, we're two people, are we both bad?

I think it was Lunas supposed sarcasm about role claiming.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:31 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:23 pm Damn, I wrote a post and went back to look and it got deleted.

Okay, I feel alright about Daisy and juliets for the moment. They seem genuine to me.

Nova and Luna pinged me this morning just because of their back and forth about game mechanics, but I don't really feel confident in game mechanics yet, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

Not sure how I feel about Epi. I get he's busy, but he seems defensive.

I'm not sure I understand the Nutella suggestion? Willing to give t hem and the monkeys the benefit of the doubt.

Unsure of Mac.

I'd go with Luna, Mac, Epi as my three.

Outside of nutella's one comment about me, I've had nothing to defend against. I fail to see how I can be defensive.

Multiple posts about how busy you are, I think there was one post where you said you weren't going to go back and dig out specific posts to serve as a examples or something.


Can we all agree on one person? MacDougal and Lunalee have the most votes so far.

Actually, no I change my mind. I'll go with Lunalee. I get a better feeling from juliets and nutella so I'm going to go with their votes.

I'm going to go with Mac Dougal for now since he has the most votes and hope others contribute some more in the next 30 minutes. Its getting late for me here and I don't want to miss a vote.

Damn, I wrote a post and went back to look and it got deleted.

Okay, I feel alright about Daisy and juliets for the moment. They seem genuine to me.

Nova and Luna pinged me this morning just because of their back and forth about game mechanics, but I don't really feel confident in game mechanics yet, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

Not sure how I feel about Epi. I get he's busy, but he seems defensive.

I'm not sure I understand the Nutella suggestion? Willing to give t hem and the monkeys the benefit of the doubt.

Unsure of Mac.

I'd go with Luna, Mac, Epi as my three.

I am awake, and needing to contribute something. Quick post to acknowledge I am involved

Exchanges between Luna and I think it was nova? Stood out to me yesterday, but will reread this afternoon/evening more carefully before I decide on my vote.

Feeling good about juliets so far.