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by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:00 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Actually I played the game as if embarrassing DH was one of my win conditions.
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:53 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Quin wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:48 am I'd have still lynched him. My claws were out on him being bad. :grin:
maybe next time.
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:51 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 16

Epignosis wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:41 pm Why did you say "existed?"
Because I was making a joke, being a comedian.
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my favorite meaningless moment of the game was right here, when i made a dumb little quip about being a comedian (Negan & The Comedian are played by the same actor) for my own dumb amusement, but then Epi, knowingly or not, picked up on it.
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:35 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Quin wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:34 am There was a time I thought Daisy was my other cop half. Twas Sloonei all along.
Only for 2 days.
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:31 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Quin wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:29 am
Scotty wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:17 am
Sloonei wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:15 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:55 am Why the hell would you have a button that changes people's roles anyway? That's asinine.

Even in this, if I got lynched or whatever and found out I was bad round 2, I would be pissed.
My biggest, and really only fear about being lynched was that I might come back bad after all the work I’d put in as town. It made me realize that scenario probably wasn’t actually in the cards for this game. That’d just be cruel.

That and I’d be separated from Sister Daisy.
I was extremely nervous that you would come back bad. No one would suspect, and I didn’t feel like lynching you any time soon even if you were bad
Literally the first thing I did after Sloonei was lynched was check him. For this exact reason. I ended my GTHs on him and DDL with full stops to signal them as my checks when people read into me post mortem. I checked SVS the night she died because I wanted to expand the voting block I was going for.
Those are some nice bread crumbs, son.
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:23 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Scotty wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:20 am
nijuukyugou wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:04 pm It is ancient history now, but my overconfidence about Marmot was misguided and a total accident, I think. The hosts can clarify for me what actually happened now, but the reason I was so damn sure Marmot was bad was that I thought I copied his role and used it to kill Sig early in the game. Later on Golden would tell me I was not able to copy a mafia nightkill, so sig apparently died by some other circumstances (I chose him as my target because I figured he was the least likely player to be killed that night), but I assumed I had done it and caught scum in the process. :shrug:

I did kill INH and nutella though. Assist to Blooper on that one. Her 1-shot role eliminated three baddies.
I was pretty stoked I actually killed the right person LOL
I was so pissed that you were NK’d the 2nd time. I had mistakenly attempted to save you on an even night, N14, but had forgot that Strex was the team that had killed you before, so I told the hosts I wanted to save you on N15 to no avail. Stupid double targeting rule. I would have saved you :(
Was my suspicion about you identifying me as a powerful role early in the game accurate?
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:15 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Epignosis wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:55 am Why the hell would you have a button that changes people's roles anyway? That's asinine.

Even in this, if I got lynched or whatever and found out I was bad round 2, I would be pissed.
My biggest, and really only fear about being lynched was that I might come back bad after all the work I’d put in as town. It made me realize that scenario probably wasn’t actually in the cards for this game. That’d just be cruel.

That and I’d be separated from Sister Daisy.
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:04 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:47 am This is historically how it happens. The button's first appearance was in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy hosted by myself and Merlin. aapje had the button originally I believe and he held it FOREVER. We never anticipated that. We figured who can resist pushing a big red button with unknown result? appje ended up gifting it to G-Man late in the game. G-Man pushed it fairly soon after he got it and by then we were nearly to end game, we were like oh shit the players are going to be so pissed when all the role get randomized fresh...

Moral of the story: never think that you can anticipate how your players will respond because you just never know.
On the other hand, this was me when I got the button in CC-123:
by Sloonei
Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:30 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Quin wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:06 am [VOTE: Boomslang] aubergine
Shady
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:56 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Golden wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:53 pm Was Quin drawing himself as a role a complete accident?
Indeed. That and DH getting David Lynch were my two favourite gifts from the random gods.
This is beautiful. Poor Quin. He’ll find himself someday.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:53 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Was Quin drawing himself as a role a complete accident?
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:36 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Golden wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:33 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:28 pm were the Strex on one tribe to begin with on purpose or was that a weird coincidence
One of the most interesting things to me was how hard it was to get people to believe the word 'random'.

The first post literally said they were randomised.

So yes, all the Strex ended up on one tribe. Bad luck, but I also never expected LoRab to sit on the button for as long as she did, even though she didn't know what it did.


When a host says something is randomized, I believe them.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:32 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Civilians were technically the minority in Bidoof. Holy shit. 4 Strex vs 2 Evens vs 2 Independents vs 4 civilians.

Daisy and I were effectively civilians and the split mafis squads weren’t exactly cooperating, but damn. No wonder it was impossible to get things done in there.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:15 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Golden wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:13 pm You want to know the logical basis for a decision of a team with wilgy and marmot in it...
I withdraw my question.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:05 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

I believe we nearly lynched him the day prior his nightkill.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:57 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

I want to know why sig was killed by whichever team did that, if that’s even in anyone’s memory anymore. He was the easiest suspect in Cerberus at the time.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:47 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

I don’t get the joke. Please explain it.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:29 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Now that this marathon is over, I’m gonna plug Quin’s Ass Class. Six spots left, go fill ‘em up.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:21 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Kylemii wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:17 pm i only used my message power like 3 times. it was hard for me to ever justify trusting anyone enough to send a message to anyone telling them any thoughts on things that might have been unique somehow from what i was saying in the thread, given that i wasn't actually saying much in the thread in the first place because of time issues
I laughed when you informed me that your message intended for SVS had been redirected to Daisy. I was like “yeah I know.”
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:14 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Epignosis wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:04 pm It is ancient history now, but my overconfidence about Marmot was misguided and a total accident, I think. The hosts can clarify for me what actually happened now, but the reason I was so damn sure Marmot was bad was that I thought I copied his role and used it to kill Sig early in the game. Later on Golden would tell me I was not able to copy a mafia nightkill, so sig apparently died by some other circumstances (I chose him as my target because I figured he was the least likely player to be killed that night), but I assumed I had done it and caught scum in the process. :shrug:

I did kill INH and nutella though. Assist to Blooper on that one. Her 1-shot role eliminated three baddies.
Whom were you going to kill had you had another chance as you requested.
My plan was to copy SVS agin (I used her role to reveal niju earlier) to reveal Kyle, but Golden just confirmed that would not have worked.

I ended up ID’ing Kyle and DDL with my new role.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:12 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Golden wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:09 pm @sloonei the baddies killed dog. I was surprised you were so committed to that given only one kill not two.

You also were only able to get the benefit of one shot roles once, but jack reloaded you after you used a vig shot.
I see. Secondary assist to Jack on nutella then. Teamwork makes the dream work.

I guess my plan to copy SVS again and flip kyle had I not been lynched would have failed. So the new role worked out better anyway.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:08 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Golden wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:06 pm Kyle your message to scotty you way overestimated the impact. I think the best thing you could have done was just imagine you were civilian and use the role in that way. You still managed some really fun messages though.
I laughed at loud at my first message from kyle.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:04 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

It is ancient history now, but my overconfidence about Marmot was misguided and a total accident, I think. The hosts can clarify for me what actually happened now, but the reason I was so damn sure Marmot was bad was that I thought I copied his role and used it to kill Sig early in the game. Later on Golden would tell me I was not able to copy a mafia nightkill, so sig apparently died by some other circumstances (I chose him as my target because I figured he was the least likely player to be killed that night), but I assumed I had done it and caught scum in the process. :shrug:

I did kill INH and nutella though. Assist to Blooper on that one. Her 1-shot role eliminated three baddies.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

I can’t imagine the headache that was keeping track of this game for the hosts. Thank you even more than normal, Golden and juliets.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:59 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Kylemii wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:57 pm good work civs.

this game was a mess for me. i had no idea how to use my first role effectively and pretty much screwed myself by sending a cryptic bullshit message to Scotty early on. I needed him dead before my first role flipped and it never happened cus he was always safe. plus I fucked up by killing during the tribe switch night painting myself into a corner. I should have gone with my instincts and just done nothing
That kill did you in, I think. I wasn’t gonna look your way for a while if the PIka2 hunt hadn’t brought us there. You were doing pretty great at appearing like yourself, I thought.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:58 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

Sloonei wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:48 pm LONG LIVE THE BROTHERHOOD
Er, sisterhood


I accepted Daisy’s invite right away Night 1 because I figured it was a chance to have a trusted BTSC partner for maybe 5 nights. We ended uo together for 15 days and were one vote away from winning the game as a team. But my heart never left the Brotherhood.
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:48 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER

LONG LIVE THE BROTHERHOOD
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:46 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:14 pm Yellow ducks give me goosebumps.

Where I live it's a symbol associated with the coup we had 2 years ago.
I apologize if our ducks have terrified you.
Kylemii wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:12 pm aww I missed out on the duck page :(
You wanted this!
by Sloonei
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:49 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

Page 69: A Memoriam:
Spoiler: show
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by Sloonei
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:17 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

Spacedaisy wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:57 pm If Boomslang is bad and the game isn't over, lynch DDL, the evil independent who finds it necessary to thin the herd.
Agreed on this one.
I don’t.
by Sloonei
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:36 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

I forgot the haiku thing, I guess the seal is broken.

Hey don’t vote for me today, guys.
by Sloonei
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:35 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

Boomslang wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:30 pm Sure, because with literally no other mafia left, I'd willingly miss a kill. Ya'll are crazy.
I don’t think that’s the accusation.
by Sloonei
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:47 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

Anyway, let’s [VOTE:
Boomslang]
aubergine to wrap this thing up.
It’s always been him.
by Sloonei
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:45 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 19

Why have you done this,
Refrigerator? Curse you,
You mother ducker.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:53 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Put your ducks away, boys.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:02 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:57 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:54 pm I called Boomslang yuck a while ago. Can I join the "I was right all along" circlejerk?
You'll need tweezers if you sit to Sloonei's left.
I’ll see myself out.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:39 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

I’ve got not defense of Boomslang, but i’d like to hear his alternatives.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:38 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Boomslang was everyone’s first suspect in Cerberus. He still has not lost a life despite never really being a strong town read for anyone. Now he might be the last baddie left. I know we’ve killed seven baddies two times over, but it he’s bad then we’re all dumb.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:27 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

I’m fairly confident it’s eithr Boomslang or DDL. Scotty is starting to sell me on the Slang.

It could still be Quin 2.0 if we wanna wrap ourselves in tinfoil, but he’s not a priority by any means.

Boomslang still has two lives.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:35 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Scotty wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:14 pm Cool.

I think that I still think it’s Boomslang.

Let’s end this, y’all
Why?
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:49 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:40 pm who dat forth even is
idk u tell me
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:01 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Quin wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:49 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:41 pm "unsexy kyle"
Alas, we did not make it to page 69.

By my powers of observation I’ve dedeuced that the game is not over. This means there’s still a threat to the town alive. I maintain that there’s an Evil Even left. We’ve got a small pool and lots of evidence to dig through. Let’s piece this thing together, y’all.
First question: Is it a recruit or an original? Epi seemed to think Kyle 1.0 was bad. LC obviously was. Do we think nutella was reincarnated as scum or bad from the get go?
I have no idea. I’m confident Kyle 1.0 was bad, and LC seems to have been bad to the bone as well. I did not spend time with nutella 1.0, but it would be unconventional for her first role to have had BTSC with a civilian (niju) if she was bad.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:53 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:51 pm I don't believe that host post.
Why not?
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:49 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Quin wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:41 pm "unsexy kyle"
Alas, we did not make it to page 69.

By my powers of observation I’ve dedeuced that the game is not over. This means there’s still a threat to the town alive. I maintain that there’s an Evil Even left. We’ve got a small pool and lots of evidence to dig through. Let’s piece this thing together, y’all.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:40 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 18

Good lynch, top of the line, spot on.

Good game, Kyle.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:26 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 18

Go to your room.
by Sloonei
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:23 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 18

Quin wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:09 am What makes you say there's a recruit?

You can answer after you rest.
Recruit as in someone becoming bad on their second life. It's mentioned in the rules, albeit it doesn't say it is happening rather than it could happen. I sit in that camp though. I also forgot nutella is a candidate for it.

Either way, nothing I've read in response to this addresses my point. This lynch feels complacent. I think it's wrong.
It's not. If it's lifeless, it's only because we've been striving towards it for a week now.

Can you at least change your vote to DDL in the event of vote shenanigans? I'd much prefer him as our #2 instead of a 3-way tie behind Kyle? Remember that I am your dad.

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