The Syndicate

I should be firmly cleared as not being a Werecreature at this point. If I am suspected of being on that team, you (general you) should probably drop it.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:31 pm I voted for santy in order to keep both wagons alive. I had no horse in the race, bur I figured things would be more interesting/active if the wagons were somewhat close.
Kay. It seems like if you are town I am not going to find you asking about reasonings about last EoD.

Do you have updated thoughts / reads? What is your PoE rn?

How do you feel about Seanzie?

No updated thoughts as of yet. As Mac said, I owe the game some associate reads. I’ll dive into ISOs late this evening.

I voted for santy in order to keep both wagons alive. I had no horse in the race, bur I figured things would be more interesting/active if the wagons were somewhat close.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:13 pm @Sloonei explain with the utmost detail your PoV on the wagons yesterday and why you voted me and just ignored genny. You didn't even talked to them expecting them to do something I feel like?

Yesterday was my birthday. I was not reading the thread.

[VOTE: santygrass] aubergine for the sake of making things spicy

For those who don’t know, Mac has played more games with me than anyone else here. We’re, like, soul mates I think.

Is there a reason to town read SAR?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:29 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:24 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:22 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:18 am @Seanzie @santygrass talk about each other plz
I don't really want to talk about Santygrass.
To elaborate, I do not feel like I actually have a good enough handle on the game to talk about Santygrass. Right now, I'm happy with the fact that I'm feeling a bit better about the TSers, and I'mma call that a win.
Talk about your shared distrust of Sloonei over the last page or so.
I don't remember what you did earlier in the game, but I had the distinct feeling you were townreading me through most of it. I do remember you voting SAR with me earlier, which reinforced that feeling. Now you're saying this is fake. I don't like it.

Santy has nothing to do with it, but I do admit that i was a little worried I was being whipped up by santy, but that makes little sense since I am one of the lesser people that wolves would need to try to whip up in this gamestate.

My SAR vote has nothing to do with you. Of anything else, for that matter. It was a tinfoil placeholder based on a vague feeling about SAR’s energy.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:22 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:18 am @Seanzie @santygrass talk about each other plz
I don't really want to talk about Santygrass.
To elaborate, I do not feel like I actually have a good enough handle on the game to talk about Santygrass. Right now, I'm happy with the fact that I'm feeling a bit better about the TSers, and I'mma call that a win.

Talk about your shared distrust of Sloonei over the last page or so.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:20 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 am Same reason I tried to target Falcon yesterday. The items I give out are weak and only marginally useful. I’ve been trying to give them out to players who are in the POE so that they can potentially do something pro-town with the items and clear their names. I was 2 shot, so shot #1 already died with falcon.
Can you explain the bolded. I don't know what that means

I can only use my role twice. I used it on Falcon the night he died, so whatever item I gave him went to the grave along wit him.

Actually you know what, time for a snap read: everyone who’s here right now is town.

I wouldn’t advocate for a santychop right now, but I wouldn’t clear him at this exact moment either.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:13 am @Sloonei talk to me about Santy. He's tunneling me and I want to kill him for it but I also don't want to kill someone just for tunneling me but his read on me is so anti town and bad and it feels like a read where he has TMI that I'm mafia except I'm not if that makes sense lol.

Santy is someone I have seen posting a lot, but have never felt an overwhelming sense of towny sincerity from him. Even in this exchange over the last few posts, their objections have felt a little hollow.

BUT Santy’s most recent post in our conversation finally earned him a slight townie point. The little “Aha” moment where he seemed to understand what I was saying felt sincere.

At the same time, his prods for Genny to confirm my claim also feel hollow. You can object to my tactics, but why on earth would my claim be a lie?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:09 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:06 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:04 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:53 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:50 am Like, as town you only have you role to use in the night, and nothing else to do. So you are either really disengaged to act like that or are a wolf.

And from gth I don't think you seem disengaged to the game to act like that
If you kept reading past the sentence you're worried about, you’d see why. I give random weak items to people. There’s very limited chance for me to actually give something to somebody who is useful. So I figured my best bet would be target someone who won’t be nightkilled (RIP Falcon), and who might be able to shrink our POE pool if we do luck into me giving them a useful item.
I read it. But my point still stands.

Like, I expect it to be used on slots with an implied lowkey townread or you see towny potential. Using it on genny lacks all of that? Genny was a potential misyeet and kinda afk, so sorry but to mee that just seems like a very bad choice?
MIranda/Sar/Mighty are like, much more good objectives in a base level view? Maybe Seanzie too.

Like, I have to assume you looked at PoE and gave it to the slot which is doing more nothing and called it a day instead of giving it to someone who you actually feel might be town but sussed regardless? Idk this might be a playstyle difference but cant ignore it

What is your PoE sloonei?
Genny being a misyeet candidate is exactly why I targeted them.

Oooo. Gotcha, no more questions then. Feels like something more worth to revisit later.

Now I want genny to confirm.they got something (no need to reveal what)

Aight. Just to be clear for everyone: I was hoping I could give somebody in the POE an avenue to escape the POE. That is why I targeted Falcon and Genny.

I also agree that it’s better if we don’t know what item Genny has. Let her use the item on her own terms and see what comes out of it. Probably not much because my items are junk, but

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:03 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:54 am @MacDougall tell him it is
Tbh it is.
Why he actin' like he doesn't townread me though?

Seanzie, I ask this sincerely: why do you think I have been townreading you? I genuinely can’t remember any instances beyond the first 24 hours of Day 1 where I’ve said anything resembling a town read on you. I think you are misremembering or conflating someone else’s posts with mine OR I blacked out and started making posts while uncomscious.

In looking over the playerlist, I realize I have very few actual townreads.

I probably won’t rectify that this phase. Today will be a day of birthday activities.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:04 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:53 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:50 am Like, as town you only have you role to use in the night, and nothing else to do. So you are either really disengaged to act like that or are a wolf.

And from gth I don't think you seem disengaged to the game to act like that
If you kept reading past the sentence you're worried about, you’d see why. I give random weak items to people. There’s very limited chance for me to actually give something to somebody who is useful. So I figured my best bet would be target someone who won’t be nightkilled (RIP Falcon), and who might be able to shrink our POE pool if we do luck into me giving them a useful item.
I read it. But my point still stands.

Like, I expect it to be used on slots with an implied lowkey townread or you see towny potential. Using it on genny lacks all of that? Genny was a potential misyeet and kinda afk, so sorry but to mee that just seems like a very bad choice?
MIranda/Sar/Mighty are like, much more good objectives in a base level view? Maybe Seanzie too.

Like, I have to assume you looked at PoE and gave it to the slot which is doing more nothing and called it a day instead of giving it to someone who you actually feel might be town but sussed regardless? Idk this might be a playstyle difference but cant ignore it

What is your PoE sloonei?

Genny being a misyeet candidate is exactly why I targeted them.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:55 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:54 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:53 am This is not town Sloonei.
Yes it is.
I impolitely disagree.

With all due respect, Seandaddy, I don’t think you and I have a very extensive history playing together.

I said all of these things yesterday too, and no one raised any objections.

@MacDougall tell him it is

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:53 am This is not town Sloonei.

Yes it is.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:50 am Like, as town you only have you role to use in the night, and nothing else to do. So you are either really disengaged to act like that or are a wolf.

And from gth I don't think you seem disengaged to the game to act like that

If you kept reading past the sentence you're worried about, you’d see why. I give random weak items to people. There’s very limited chance for me to actually give something to somebody who is useful. So I figured my best bet would be target someone who won’t be nightkilled (RIP Falcon), and who might be able to shrink our POE pool if we do luck into me giving them a useful item.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:49 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:45 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:44 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:36 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:33 am @S~V~S @Sloonei who would you vote between genny and Seanzie ?
Seanzie, because I gave Genny an item and don't want it to go to waste.
Did you have a choice on who go give it?
If so, why genny?
Same reason I tried to target Falcon yesterday. The items I give out are weak and only marginally useful. I’ve been trying to give them out to players who are in the POE so that they can potentially do something pro-town with the items and clear their names. I was 2 shot, so shot #1 already died with falcon.
You've been presumably townreading me and I've been in the PoE. Why didn't you give me something?
No reason. I didn’t put much thought into it. My items really are not that useful. I’m a step above a fruit vendor. I also have no say in what people get.
This is worrying

Actually I was the opposite of worried at the time.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:48 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:36 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:33 am @S~V~S @Sloonei who would you vote between genny and Seanzie ?
Seanzie, because I gave Genny an item and don't want it to go to waste.
Did you have a choice on who go give it?
If so, why genny?
Same reason I tried to target Falcon yesterday. The items I give out are weak and only marginally useful. I’ve been trying to give them out to players who are in the POE so that they can potentially do something pro-town with the items and clear their names. I was 2 shot, so shot #1 already died with falcon.

HMMMMMMMM

Then you should target PoE slots that you think are likely to flip town ? Or like, what is your proccess to Pick falcon and then genny between the PoE about other PoE'd slots

Yeah. I thought falcon was gonna flip town. Genny is 50/50.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:47 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:46 am And I would not say that I have been town reading you, Seanzie.
You sure as hell have been acting like it. Why is that?

I do not believe I have. As I said earlier, I do not have a take on you.

And I would not say that I have been town reading you, Seanzie.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:44 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:42 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:36 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:33 am @S~V~S @Sloonei who would you vote between genny and Seanzie ?
Seanzie, because I gave Genny an item and don't want it to go to waste.
Did you have a choice on who go give it?
If so, why genny?
Same reason I tried to target Falcon yesterday. The items I give out are weak and only marginally useful. I’ve been trying to give them out to players who are in the POE so that they can potentially do something pro-town with the items and clear their names. I was 2 shot, so shot #1 already died with falcon.
You've been presumably townreading me and I've been in the PoE. Why didn't you give me something?

No reason. I didn’t put much thought into it. My items really are not that useful. I’m a step above a fruit vendor. I also have no say in what people get.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:36 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:33 am @S~V~S @Sloonei who would you vote between genny and Seanzie ?
Seanzie, because I gave Genny an item and don't want it to go to waste.
Did you have a choice on who go give it?
If so, why genny?

Same reason I tried to target Falcon yesterday. The items I give out are weak and only marginally useful. I’ve been trying to give them out to players who are in the POE so that they can potentially do something pro-town with the items and clear their names. I was 2 shot, so shot #1 already died with falcon.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:33 am @S~V~S @Sloonei who would you vote between genny and Seanzie ?

Seanzie, because I gave Genny an item and don't want it to go to waste.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:13 pm I feel like voting for [VOTE: sardoghandler] aubergine. This isn't based on anything yet.
What is your take on me?

It would be dishonest to say that I have one.

I feel like voting for [VOTE: sardoghandler] aubergine. This isn't based on anything yet.

Dennis feels very town at this exact moment.

oh yeah that sounds much more like a protection than a vampire.

you would need to invite a vampire in, first of all.

Mac's energy has been decidedly pro-town since he got here. Forget who deserves credit for what. He was calm, collected, and in charge during his first couple days in the game. Today he has opened by trying to direct our attention to the other factions. I am not inclined to remove this player from the game right now. These are going well. We do not need to change course right now.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:48 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:47 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:46 pm Hardclaiming mac was not poisoned, he was protected
Explain poetically pls
Tutuu protected him

tutuu was a regular doctor with night protections. Mac claimed to be poisoned, which would have flipped him at the end of the day yesterday.

I do not think anybody was responsible for getting Creature eliminated. That one was inevitable.

I do not feel any urgency to resolve Mac today.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:34 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:31 pm I think by the fact of Mac not being killed by poison to then not being nked , they should be p close to just outed as scum here. And thats fully ignoring my read on them which I think was right and they just tried to laugh it off yesterday.

So ye
I do not follow.
Scum faction tried to poison Mac .
And then... Just leave them be ? Why not try to finksh the job? I was the only one sring Mac so why they wouldn't go for a near mech clear player that they scum poisoned?

This is a fair point. I would not go so far as to call him "outed".

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:31 pm I think by the fact of Mac not being killed by poison to then not being nked , they should be p close to just outed as scum here. And thats fully ignoring my read on them which I think was right and they just tried to laugh it off yesterday.

So ye

I do not follow.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 pm We don't know that it's "multiball" in the sense of there being two mafia factions. The bonus faction(s) could be third party with limited killing abilities.
That sure is possible, but given how destroyed the Werecreature faction is, I think I'd prefer to live in the world of assuming the other faction is an omega level threat to world peace.

This is fair

We don't know that it's "multiball" in the sense of there being two mafia factions. The bonus faction(s) could be third party with limited killing abilities.

someone got something from me last night.

ty for the walrus crown, nate.

I could go for some waffles.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:19 pm Maybe Nate is some sort of independent 3p soup killer who wins the game if they can match roles to players. We've seen that before.
im not worried about soup kill, jay would put the possibility of it in the OP especially for the SDN furry invaders

Yeah, if we had active claim deterrents, our benevolent hosts would have said something about it in the rules. I believe the game design itself is our anti-claim mechanic.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:35 pm SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song. (No Werewolves of London please)

I'll rate them based on creature-ness and personal taste, and put the results in tonight's broadcast.

To play, reply to this or ping me with a single youtube link. Put [ url ][ /url ] tags around the link (without the spaces) so it doesn't embed, or put it in a spoiler. Honor system, but try not to look at others' submissions.

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@JaggedJimmyJay
@Dubz
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@supershorty
@dyachei
@Lawpy
@genny
@Mayo the Mayo
@mightyrunner7
@miranda920
@santygrass
@SARdoghandler
@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@tutuu
@Kate
@MacDougall
@Neon
@S~V~S
@Seanzie
@Sloonei
@Scotty
@Animal Midwife
@pyxxy
@SportPonies
@Creature
@Zenge
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@potentialsheltervet

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tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:46 am Oh okay thanks sloonii, my bad, it appears i misinterpreted your original post, i thought that you were saying you backread today, thats where all this confusion came from

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:21 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:03 pm So that I could have you as a town read.
A funny response but let me prod further

Why did you *want* to have Dennis as a townread?

Humor aside. Explain like a robot, please
Beep boop, I can give people things at night, beep boop wanted to give item to a player on the fence to see what they’d do with it. Processing: Selected Falcon over Dennis. Hopes deleted.
at the risk of being annoying, this doesnt explain it for me sloonei

i understand that you're claiming you're an inventor, and you're claiming you were deciding between giving an item between falcon and dennis and you chose falcon. ok cool

what is the relevance with the initial thing dennis and i asked u about?

dennis asked you why did you *want* to townread him while you were backreading, which you did *today*, not *last night*

im not asking something with a hidden meaning, or expecting something more

just quite literally, at face value, why did you want to townread dennis?

I did the back reading last night, not today.

Dennis was on my shortlist of targets because he’s been a player in the middle ground all game. My role is fairly weak, but I wanted to give a player a chance to do something slightly pro-town with one of my items so that they could do something to clear their name with it, potentially. Falcon and Dennis were just kind of the two names my brain settled on. I thought Falcon looked better in relation to Creature.

I am not being obtuse or anything. I did not put a lot of thought into it.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:03 pm So that I could have you as a town read.
A funny response but let me prod further

Why did you *want* to have Dennis as a townread?

Humor aside. Explain like a robot, please

Beep boop, I can give people things at night, beep boop wanted to give item to a player on the fence to see what they’d do with it. Processing: Selected Falcon over Dennis. Hopes deleted.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:49 pm @Sloonei apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

@Seanzie apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?
Not actively. The quieter folks (genny, seanzie, miranda, SAR) should be sussed out further. I just haven’t gotten around to doing that yet.
Do you not consider Falcon's ISO a relevant place to look? I would have though it'd be where to start for you.

I do.

I have been busy since this phase started. The game is currently on the back burner. I am sorry, but these questions achieve nothing. I have very few updated thoughts for Day 3.

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