The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:38 am i guess i'm reading lc's iso now.

He spewed everyone town except Syn and Vulgard.

"No Wayne Gretzky, don't take that shot. I already took one earlier." - Mac Dougall

i guess i'm reading lc's iso now.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:35 am I had to kill *someone* and I just guessed correctly that it was LC. it is actually TSP's role from AC

using tony's AC role to kill Long Con is downright poetic.

... thank you for not using it on me instead.

didn't mac claim a role that could specifically kill a member of the mafia team in radiohead?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:32 am Why do I get the feeling he wasn't really mafia?

That role doesn't seem like a scum role.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:47 am Characters and abilities are not alignment-indicative. There are no claim restrictions beyond “don’t quote your role PM.”

Lol

i put my aubergine back on vulgard

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:25 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:01 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:54 pm I feel like half the player list has stipulations in the role card that forces them to play in ways that are just slightly off from their usual selves.

On one hand I'd ask you what you mean but on the other hand I know hwat you mean

For instance, TonyStarkPrime seems to be required to not exceed one line of text in 90% of his posts.

That sounds more like a read than a real guess at a post restriction. Why wouldn't you pull the trigger on that if you think it's unusual?

huh

Pardon? I didn't catch your answer.

huh

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:01 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:54 pm I feel like half the player list has stipulations in the role card that forces them to play in ways that are just slightly off from their usual selves.

On one hand I'd ask you what you mean but on the other hand I know hwat you mean

For instance, TonyStarkPrime seems to be required to not exceed one line of text in 90% of his posts.

That sounds more like a read than a real guess at a post restriction. Why wouldn't you pull the trigger on that if you think it's unusual?

huh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:54 pm I feel like half the player list has stipulations in the role card that forces them to play in ways that are just slightly off from their usual selves.

On one hand I'd ask you what you mean but on the other hand I know hwat you mean

For instance, TonyStarkPrime seems to be required to not exceed one line of text in 90% of his posts.

I feel like half the player list has stipulations in the role card that forces them to play in ways that are just slightly off from their usual selves.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:33 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:12 pm Oh I super misread that rule then

I thought it meant there were no vanilla villagers. Okay, then Marmot's fine.

If Syn is bad, Marmot is town.

Are you referring to the scum trick of putting out a suspicion and then turning around on it to pocket a villager?

No. "Okay, then Marmot's fine" is way too strong of a pivot off of the original point. It looks like a wolf making a phony push on a perceived easy target and then doing a 180 when there's resistance.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:12 pm Oh I super misread that rule then

I thought it meant there were no vanilla villagers. Okay, then Marmot's fine.

If Syn is bad, Marmot is town.

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:04 pm @Sloonei Have you explained why you're voting Mac at any point?

No.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:04 pm I need to learn how to use mentions here.

@Sloonei this should work. Why are you voting Mac?

I wanted to at the time.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:29 pm @Poison I am having a difficult time following your read on me. Could you talk about it some more?

No reads no you specifically just null rn.

Why? You've made several comments which indicate that you have had thoughts about my alignment. Null reads are illegal. Am I town or mafia? Why?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:25 pm @TonyStarkPrime your reads so far seem to be going a bit against the grain. Does this matter or mean anything to you?

I don’t think there’s an established grain. I don’t think my reads go against any grain that could be established, except for TRing the Marmot who has two votes right now.

You stated pretty soon after your arrival that no one has been towny/nearly everyone has been scummy. That's against the grain.

One of marmot's two votes is a self-vote. I wouldn't call a townread on him "against the grain."

[mention]Poison[/mention] I am having a difficult time following your read on me. Could you talk about it some more?

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] your reads so far seem to be going a bit against the grain. Does this matter or mean anything to you?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:18 am ...Wait. Why's Marmot selfvoting?

Why are you Marmotvoting?

Welcome to Tonytown.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:27 am I can run down the list if you want me to

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:12 am Mac came into the game and said that people were towny which is the opposite of reality

Who's scummy?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:15 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:51 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:35 pm So um, I'm town and I think I'm the only one.

Marmot marmot, where have you been and what is mafia? I forget how to play, please remind me.

It depends. If you're the mafia, you probably want to kill me. If you're an innocent pure townie like me, you self-vote and hope your teammates will carry you.

Which one are you?

Town. I see you’ve already told us you are as well. This is wonderful news.

How do you propose we go about eliminating those who are not?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:35 pm So um, I'm town and I think I'm the only one.

Marmot marmot, where have you been and what is mafia? I forget how to play, please remind me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:24 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:52 pm How about "How many of the people outside of the thread are Mafia?"

This questions begs another: how many people in the thread are mafia?

And then we get to the true crux of the game: How many people in the game are mafia?

In a 16-player game we're either looking at 12 vs 4 or 13 vs 3, depending on roles and mechanics.
In a 12-player game, it's 9 vs 3 or or 10 vs 2. This is functionally a 12-player game right now, but that's not the complete picture.
I cannot begin to speculate about what the 4 out-of-thread players are doing in this game, but I doubt we're currently in an 8vs4 threadstate to start the game.
10 vs 2 in-thread and 2 vs 2 out-thread also feels unlikely.

My best guess would be 10 vs 2 / 3 vs 1, or 9 vs 3 / 3 vs 1 or 4 vs 0. Which is to say I will assume we have either 2 or 3 Mafia in this thread with us right now.

It's also possible that the entire out-of-thread crew is unaligned with either faction.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

I don't think two wolves would try and tag-team a case on D1, and have such a wide divide on the logic behind it too. Alison's case has "makes sense" value behind it, while Vulgard's simply fell apart at the slightest breeze. If they wanted to establish a mis-elim as partners, Vulgard would have surely come up with something better than what he did.

“Not the same alignment” implies they are not both town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pmThis was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

Just want to mention that it was not for no reason. It was to "try to save" the other villager who was one vote ahead of me. Admittedly, the stated reason of "he's worth more than I am alive" is questionable, but the action of giving away an elimination like that is so unwolfy, which is the position I successfully took the risk for.

Whatever it was, it broke me.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

They can easily be together, but there's a possibility of a confirmed mafia is higher.

Why?

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm Votes are changeable, right?

There are games on syndicate where you can not change votes?

Not so much anymore, but there was a time where that was the standard.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:00 pm One of Alison - Vulgard is scum probably, do not like the syn votes on page 3.

Why are Alison and Vulgard not the same alignment?

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again

Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?

I really don't remember sorry lol

You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

I see. Was LC in the out of the thread party? Was he scum?

LC was scum. F3 was me, Tony, and him.

Jay and nutella were the two out-of-thread peeps.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again

Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?

I really don't remember sorry lol

You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

See the reason I’m paprika is because it’s a spice, and spices aren’t the centerpiece of any meal but they’re just their to enhance what’s there and bring out the best in the respective dishes. That is my aim in any mafia game; to draw out the shining aura of townie brilliance in each and every one of you.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:36 pm I just saw it says "sloonbeard" not "sloonbread"

Lol

I thought you were just continuing the food theme

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:23 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Why exactly?

Because you're setting up an excuse to sheep Sloonei while putting the responsibility of the exe on his shoulders and implying that if he is wrong he is mafia.

That is not why it pinged me.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:26 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

Game 9 was a very unique circumstance due to the timing of my arrival.

Am I mafia right now?

No you are sloonbread

What reads, thoughts, or general impressions about the game do you have so far?

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm What the fuck is going on here

We’re putting old donuts in the fridge like goddamn heathens.

How old are we talking about?

A day old.

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

Game 9 was a very unique circumstance due to the timing of my arrival.

Am I mafia right now?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm What the fuck is going on here

We’re putting old donuts in the fridge like goddamn heathens.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm I think Nutella is mafia here.

Why?

I do not have a specific reason but if you are town I think she isn't.

Also I'm not going to engage in our usual shtick. You can be the alpha MU champ and push me around and whatever.

Alright then listen here. This is my game now. Your ass is mine, cupcake. So pull your head out of there and get it together:

Tell me what fridge item everyone in this game is.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm I think Nutella is mafia here.

Why?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm im a hypocrisy hypocryte

[catchphrase]

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:02 pm Sloonei's been fine. He made his point re: Vulgard. Unvoting early D1 isn't sus to at all. There's a written record of his read. It'd be suspicious if his voting record ends up not matching his reads, but that's days from now.

I don't think my handling of vulgard is the reason LC suspects me.
idk if funnygurl actually suspects me or if she's just voting for laughs

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:51 pm It looks pretty good for Enrique actually.

I think so too, more so if Vulgard is bad. If Vulgard is town and Scum Enrique sees the thread piling on him early he can do the old knight in shining armor shtick here. But if Vulgard is mafia, I have a hard time seeing his teammate showing up at this phase to say "Nah, this guy is town" and then backing it up with what amounts to a shrug.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:52 pm How about "How many of the people outside of the thread are Mafia?"

This questions begs another: how many people in the thread are mafia?

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm I think Vulgard is playing day 1 in much the way that other people play day 1. means nothing.

Which is...?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:03 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:01 pm I think it's a pretty ugly look that Vulgard's "throat has been thoroughly jumped down" but nobody seems to want to actually vote him. I think there is a good chance he is scum and his teammates bussed for early distance but are afraid to commit the vote because they were scared by the apparent steam his wagon was building and didn't want to lose a member so rapidly.

We have nearly 48 hours left in Day 1. I don’t think it behooves us to pile votes on one person immediately.

I mean, I'm not saying hammer him right now, but like when I read through a thread of various people all attacking Vulgard and then I check the poll and I'm the literal only person on it, I get suspicious.

I unvoted him a moment after you voted for him. I don’t like runaway polls early in phases.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm seems fine to me

Why?