The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:50 pm dinner time

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] talk about reywaS hurry

Someone fecking talk to me about the reywaS points I just made. 8 minutes.

I don't remember Spacedaisy being the blow-up-and-get-super-mad sort of mafioso.

How I feel much of this game:

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:55 pmDaisy definitely seemed frustrated. She also seemed as if she was ready to give up, which isn't something you should really do if you are town.

A mafioso shouldn't give up either. What does this mean to you? Is Daisy good or bad?

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:13 amsounds legit. Would not lynch
Elohcin
Nutella

~~~

Would, at this exact moment in time, have no problem voting for:
Meta-hairy
Triple J
Sexy wut wut beast

rey loves Elohcin and hates me. He also hates Mac. Elohcin voted for Mac. He can join her to create a wagon with a player he trusts.

Instead he dumped a pointless solo vote on me and pissed off. His vote is highly unlikely to make any difference in this tally. Bad.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:32 pm Then again, I don't know if Mac's preference is male or female, but there are two really really main girls in the show if memory serves - looking at the pictures online - it looks like I'm forgetting one. One of them, my daughter, I really liked watching her character, and then there was this other main who kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

Why is your vote on Daisy? It isn't entirely clear apart from your response to my "yikes" comment.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:06 am Bad: JJJ, Mac, indiglo, DaisySpace

Good: Me

Who knows: Everyone else

rey said Daisy and I were both bad on Night 1. Daisy can easily be lynched.

He voted for me. I'm not getting lynched. That is flicking the booger. Nope.

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:04 pm Drive by vote for triple j. I dont buy what hes selling

I correctly gave rey credit in a recent game for his suspicion of me; it looked authentic. This does not look authentic. This just exists in the thread for the sake of it. Moreover it's an off-wagon vote as we near EOD with other players higher in the lynch discussion.

Bad.

[VOTE: reywaS] aubergine

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:16 pm Owner rolecopped me is my best guess.
I'm guessing you're my daughter from the description of sexy, which would make you one of the mains, which with Mongoose's flip would more than likely make you a Power Role of some sort.

He said he's a bodyguard. Everyone in this show seems to be "sexy", what makes Mac your daughter?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:48 pm Mac has the excuse of being in a separate end game. nutella, I don't care for you doing it big on Day 1, having it end in a mislynch with or without your help, and then doing fuck all Day 2 beyond camp on Daisy for reasons you won't share (I've asked twice).
I literally fucking warned you I would be absent today due to work so you can just fuck right off.

Naw I'll go ahead and tell you you're suspicious.

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:04 pm Drive by vote for triple j. I dont buy what hes selling

What am I selling and why don't you buy it?

Mac has the excuse of being in a separate end game. nutella, I don't care for you doing it big on Day 1, having it end in a mislynch with or without your help, and then doing fuck all Day 2 beyond camp on Daisy for reasons you won't share (I've asked twice).

[mention]nutella[/mention] you get a D- for Day 2. You've done barely more than nothing.

Tell me why Owner is a civilian.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:26 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:00 pm Really feel like Daisy's latest content is from a townie heart, and I don't know why nutella and owner still want her lynched.
As I said I'm not set on it. I'm trying not to be "deep in confirmation bias" as she says and I can see it your way too. I could still vote for mata, or someone else if there is a convincing reason.

Tell me about two things:

1.) What about Daisy's recent stuff do you think differs from her civilian self?
2.) What do you think of Owner's vote for Daisy?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:53 pm Y'all, after playing so hard in my previous two games, I am chugging through this one on low energy. Even still I am dominating the post counts.

You can't let me give the most effort. Don't let a man be in charge of a game 75% populated by women and hosted by a woman.
R u me

You get an F for your Day 2 production. Improve it or die.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

I'm going to be in class again, and it might last up to the deadline. Do something, y'all.

Also the deadline is in three freaking hours.

We really need to get more people involved here. The game won't solve itself.

Thanks for giving it a shot, Matahari. I'll consider what you've said.

Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:20 pm I have calmed down a lot about Lunalee, Nutella, and you. I am trying to give Owner some trust because of her recent posts, but she is not on my trust list yet. You are not square on the trust list either, but at least you make posts that sound like you are really searching for answers. Everyone else is sort of a blank for me, at this point.

I can suggest an exercise which might freeze you with culture shock, but it'll also be a splendid push.

Elohcin
indiglo
JaggedJimmyJay
Lunalee
MacDougall
nutella
Owner of a Lonely Heart
reywaS
Spacedaisy

Please quote my post or just copy/paste the list of players right there. Then imagine the following scenario: an assailant has you trapped and is holding a gun to your head. He or she commands you to spit out whatever your gut tells you about each of these players, but it may only be one of two words: good or bad. Anything else is unacceptable (no "null" or "neutral" or "I don't know" allowed). You may not break those rules or it will be to your great peril. Go.

Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:07 pm I’m very out of my depth here, everything has changed so much. Little things like bandwagoning, for instance. That used to get people in so much trouble, and now it seems to be the preferred method. Role playing- that’s new for me too. Not having watched the show, I don’t always catch when people are role playing. So I’m having to go with old school methods. Gut.
I’m really not sure about Rey at all, old school Rey participated more as a civ. But reading back on him, he is not really participating so much as just posting. I’d like to hear from others what they think about him, to get a better perspective.
The three who make me a little uneasy, it’s because I felt like they were avoiding real commitment to scum hunting. Their day one vote posts were evasive and seemed like they had a hard time placing a vote on someone they knew was a civ. As in, being mafia, you have to be careful not to look like you were going hard for someone who will be revealed as a civ. That may not make sense, sorry. That’s just a gut thing.

It makes sense. I think the three you named, [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention], [mention]indiglo[/mention], and [mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention], ought to say something in response.

I would encourage you not to concern yourself with how people play now versus what you're accustomed to. If you read the thread and develop an opinion about anything, just stick it right here in the thread. Opinions cannot be "outdated", they are just opinions. Let's hear them in whatever form they take inside your brain. Otherwise it is a bit more difficult to interpret your approach as authentic.

I view reywaS as a suspect by process of elimination. His style prevents him from saying things that will look awful, but nor has he done anything to earn much civilian credit.

Do you find anyone in this game trustworthy?

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:51 pm
indiglo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:49 pm Why am I scared of juliets?
She asked you some questions in a pointed, accusatory manner. You answered her, but she didn't get around to revisiting the matter. Without that, the threat she posed to you was not assuaged, and thus you are shook. U shook m8.

I'm not shook. (Oh geez, I can barely even say that - it's so... millenial *shudders*) Questions are expected in a mafia game. I don't have anything to hide, and although I'm certain my re-entry has been clunky, I'm not bad. I didn't even find juliets' questions to be particularly memorable (no offense meant to juliets, who I do find quite memorable). I had to go back and find them to even jog my memory.

Okay. Do you think the other people I mentioned are positively terrified of juliets?

Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:50 pm Since JJJ educated me on the new way of approaching a mafia game, I’ll update my list of suspects. The people I’m antsy about are Daisy, Indiglo, and Owner (although I’m a little less antsy about her after reading her posts). These are based on getting an uneasy feel about their day one vote posts, mostly.
I am blank on JJJ, Mac, Elohcin, and Rey (hi back, Rey!). I feel like Rey is town, but really can’t be positive.

Thanks for the reads, Matahari.

I'd like to hear more about your view that rey is town as well as about the three suspects you named.

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:49 pm Why am I scared of juliets?

She asked you some questions in a pointed, accusatory manner. You answered her, but she didn't get around to revisiting the matter. Without that, the threat she posed to you was not assuaged, and thus you are shook. U shook m8.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:03 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:42 pm Okay so this is my only game now. I POE'd down to four, so somebody tell me why I'm stupid or why I'm brilliant. Argue with me. Argue with each other. Fight and bicker. Let's go.
I'm in general agreement with you though I'm not quite ready to acquit Mac and reywas. Mac because I didn't see a reason he glommed onto Mongoose and stayed there and Rey because he offered a reason for his nutella vote that seemed fake. They are far down my list though. Of most importance to me are Owner, Daisy and indiglo. Also, need to read back through EOD and pick through how some of those Mongoose decisions were made. I may come back to you with questions about your role in that debacle.

On another note I really like nutella in EOD pushing people to get off Luna. If Luna is bad she was brilliant in EOD.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] and [mention]reywaS[/mention], please answer to these bits from juliets.

indiglo be scared of juliets

reywaS be scared of juliets

MacDougall, Owner, and Spacedaisy be scared of juliets

Time to go find out who is afraid of juliets.

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:13 pmSo, 2 options here:

1 - We listen to you, and start posting 3,000 x a day, thereby allowing you - an alleged man - to be in charge of us.
2 - We post however much we want, thereby not allowing you to be in charge of us, while you continue to complain.

I see what you did there.

I'm not even posting that much by my standards.

That's okay though. If I have to uphold the patriarchy by taking charge, then I will.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:09 pm Dude you are overreacting chill. My vote is not set in stone but it is getting closer as this response doesn't sound like civ Daisy imo.

What would civ Daisy sound like by comparison?

Y'all, after playing so hard in my previous two games, I am chugging through this one on low energy. Even still I am dominating the post counts.

You can't let me give the most effort. Don't let a man be in charge of a game 75% populated by women and hosted by a woman.

Owner is a tough nut to crack sometimes, because she has unique manners of approaching the hunt that can lead to her being misjudged. I have struggled to follow her train of thought though and would still call her a suspect.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:34 pm I always try to put my vote where it matters if I don’t feel like I have a strong suspicion somewhere else.

Right. And you should do that.

You don't mimic that whatsoever when you're bad? That's the point.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:33 pm Because if I was bad, why the fuck would I need to seal a lunch on Mongoose? She was already getting lynched. Why wouldn’t I just vote for someone else, anyone else? I could have tossed my vote anywhere and not gotten my hands dirty if I knew she was civ before I voted for her. The only reason I might really want to deal a lynch on Mongoose if Iwasbad is if I was protecting someone else. The only two people that might be Jay are you and Mac. Do you think Mac is bad? Are you bad? Even thenif one of you was bad and not the other, I could’ve voted to tie up the civ with Mongoose, assuming I am on the mafia team (which I’m not). A vote for Mongoose makes literally zero sense if I knew her alignment ahead of the lynch unless you believe I was protecting someone else. It only makes sense if you consider that I didn’t know what she would flip.

Let me explain why I don't agree with the logic you are presenting (separate from the tone or the believability):

I believe it is important to participate in a prevailing wagon in the end, because throwaway votes are useless. That is my civilian perspective, and it is one I have voiced many times. When I am a mafioso, that still applies. Even if there are three large wagons all on civilians, I am very likely to put myself on one of them as a mafioso -- being a part of a mislynch can draw some suspicion, but being a throwaway vote on someone else is even more suspicious in most scenarios.

Are you suggesting to me that this is a mindset which has no place in your mafia-aligned perspective?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:33 pmI believed you are good based on your behavior. You look like you are genuinely trying to figure things out. But it concerns me now that I’m wrong if you can’t see why that vote indicating I’m bad would have to mean that you and/or Mac were bad as well.

I don't think you are thinking this through. It might be a product of your frustration, but I have to ask you questions before I give you any kind of a break. You aren't making sense to me right now.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:24 pm Fuck this, you’ve just decided to vote me no matter what so let’s just dispense with the charade. It literally makes no sense that I’m bad based on that vote, but whatever. Don’t let that inconvenience your lynch train.

You could be the most civilian townie to ever village, and this would still be a silly assertion.

Who is bad?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:44 am Here was my thinking, I can cast a vote off that has no meaning or I can cast a vote where it can count. Mongoose was already winning the lynch y’all. I didn’t want to tie it up because I didn’t feel like Jay was bad. When considering either Mac or Mongoose. I had felt like I thought Mac seemed loosey goosey and like normal Mac, but I wouldn’t say I feel confident ilenogh to discount him. Whereas there was conversation already about Mongoose and I thought she seemed stiffer than Mac did. Less natural.

Why not?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:44 amThis my vote for Mongoose, who was already about to get lynched. Why would I do this if I was bad? The only reason would be if both Mac and Jay were bad. They both had one less vote than Mongoose, iirc. So please consider this logical, unless you suspect I am on a team with Mac and Jay, this move would not make sense as a baddie.

If you felt the need to take part in a prevailing wagon, then that's a perception that can exist for you in a mafia alignment too. I don't know why the alignments of Mac and I must dictate how you are perceived here.

indiglo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:00 pmSomething feels a little off to me here, almost like it's an effort to appear to be posting content, without really posting content. I don't know if she didn't expect to be asked about her list or what, but I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy about this. Her previous posts explaining her thought process read as genuined, but this stuff really feels like an attempt to post content while not really saying anything.

Thoughts? From Mata or anyone?

It's a reasonable gripe. The only read coming from her effort there was on rey, so it didn't amount to much of anything.

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:13 am sounds legit. Would not lynch
Elohcin
Nutella

why

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:13 amstill processing....wouldn't lynch unless someone appealed to my sense of logic and talked me into it
indiglo
Lunalee

why

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:13 amI has no idea about....would probably join in on a lynchwagon in certain scenarios:
Owner of a lonely heart

why

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:13 amWould, at this exact moment in time, have no problem voting for:
Meta-hairy
Triple J
Sexy wut wut beast

why

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:12 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:06 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:06 amor mata
Jay wants to hear about it.
She has a tone that comes across as stilted/overly analytical and removed or something, idk, look back at my exchange with her during like-the-way-you-think-gate. I haven't played with her in a while and maybe it's just her personality/style but most of her posts rubbed me the wrong way and don't read like genuine organic thoughts.

Understood. To some extent I agree with your general perception of her diction. I quite liked her bit about making connections though.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:07 am Replace owner with mata and we're golden.

I mean, not THAT Golden, but we can come close

Why am I no longer evil incarnate?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:06 amor mata

Jay wants to hear about it.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:03 am I was never positive on Luna's alignment. I was very convinced that she was not a good option for a day 1 lynch, but never positive. I tried to sway the lynch off of her because it was stupid and there were better options on the table -- unfortunately Mongoose wasn't the right choice either, but that whole EOD was, as our host put it, a fustercluck.

Fight me or agree with me or something:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:54 pm I feel oddly comfortable with the state of this game. It's a bummer to lose Mongoose, but I think people kinda shined in the process. I would be prudent to add reywaS to my POE to make it 5-deep; I can't provide a terribly meaningful case for him as a civilian. I feel pretty peachy about everyone outside this set though:

reywaS
indiglo
Owner
Spacedaisy
Elohcin

Go ahead and sleep Owner. You've given everyone plenty of content to assess.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:43 am Well, that's the other thing, nutella was positive on Luna's alignment, but it's day 1.

Have a red hot go at that, [mention]nutella[/mention].

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:39 am7. nutella - mainly just a bit irked at how quick she was to defend Luna as if she was absolutely certain of her alignment
8. Lunalee - could be town because of nutella/mac or could be teamed
10. Matahari - null or could be with nutella/Luna
12. MacDougall could be with nutella/Luna

You've linked these four together across various dynamics. Please describe why they'd make sensible teammates in the combinations you have suggested.

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