The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:28 pmconsider I am not doing these reads in most of my games regardless alignament, I will inform you you are wrong on both.

Is this something you'd be able to provide a link for from a recent town game?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:21 pm I will explain why I make GTH reads at SoD: it's to see reactions.
They don't have bad reactions, both of them, insta voting me for making an undeserved AI judgement.

That's a perfectly valid strategy, and I have often done the same thing in the past. I am still left to decide, however, if you were truly pursuing reactions or if those were meant to be real reads that you have had to walk back. I will think about it.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:21 pmYou, otoh, you are focused on your image and the way you present yourself and your reads. It may be that you turned into a pedantic player who needs rainbow reads for 4 players.
Or you want to show off and the focus on how you look it's your way to impress the other townies?

I don't care about my image, but I am absolutely concerned with the ways that I present my reads. When players aren't considerate of their presentation, they tend to have a negative impact on the climate of a game. I don't necessarily "need" to build rainbows with limited players to assess, but it does sometimes help me to conceptualize a starting point for myself.

There's much day phase remaining, so I will leave you be for now so you can play on your own terms.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:15 pmThese sort of hollow reads are something that I was actively looking out for since they seemed pretty common when I did an admittedly quick meta skim of one of her wolf games earlier.

I recognize a similar problem from the season 7 finale. I will temper that connection since it was three years ago, but it's in my head.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:07 pm My reads make sense for me and I believe in what I see and I explained them. I didn't make them to be believable for you Jay

That could be true. I don't know. I am still required to interpret those reads for myself and make my own judgment.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:07 pmand your rush to paint me scum is nagl.

Why is my suspicion "nagl"? Do you believe the following two reads should be regarded as trustworthy? Imagine someone other than you made these reads and you had to decide what to do with them.

"falcon is town, because falcon said I AM TOWN the way he did in a previous town game"
"Wiml is town, because he referred to 'cold blood', and I don't think he would as mafia"

Civilians
falcon45ca -- probably town, and something to be mindful of moving forward. falcon tends to inevitably become vote-bait eventually, and if he's town right now he'll still be town later.

Have posted, no read
Wiml -- early posts are perfectly okay, but they don't inform me about Wiml's motivations yet.
Kate -- town read on falcon could use qualification, otherwise no impression

No posts yet
Abigail
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Lime Coke
Quin
Roxy

Suspicion exists
Michelle -- initial reads are a little hard to believe

This post is largely for my own mental organization, but might as well share.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:53 pm Is there a fast way to vote on this site or is it just manually typing in the vote tags?

There's a "vote" button in the post editor, but it's not available in the quick reply box.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:48 pm Thanks, is there a way to ISO on SDN?

From within a thread, you can use the search function (around the top right) to search "this thread" for posts by JaggedJimmyJay.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:39 pm JJJ you mind linking a couple representative town games of yours?

And ideally a representative wolf game that's not the Don't Starve one.

Sure, or at least I can try. I have played so seldom in recent years that they tend to get dated quickly. But here are a few:

Town

Champs practice game on Student Doctor Network
Another earlier SDN game

Mafia

Kid's Birthday Party Mafia
Halvøsen Ridge

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:29 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Falcon is town, Wiml feels good

Whaddya like about Wiml so far?

Vibe.

Also the killing in cold blood thing is not something mafia would come up at game start

My gaze narrows. Suspicion! Suspicion!

I think Wiml's posts as of your "feels good" read had been fine, but not town-indicative (or anything-indicative). So that read leaves me uneasy. His comment about cold blood was also a response to a silly question I had just posed to him a moment earlier.

falcon is my only town read so far. That's okay for post #39.

I would say falcon posting a naked vote for me is not indicative of much, but his explanation for that vote a moment ago was a very good one. It aligns closely with the expectations falcon had of me in the previous game (Don't Starve), and extending that expectation to "I'm voting you until this happens" -- it's a natural product of me having a successful game as mafia in that case.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:23 pm Please tell me everything about your vote, @falcon45ca. Pour your rationale over me like hot syrup into a freshly ironed waffle.

I'm gonna pressure you til you're able to find a towncore via player engagements & Excel spreadsheets, or til I find someone else to vote

Not a bad idea from your point of view. Thanks for answering.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Falcon is town, Wiml feels good

Whaddya like about Wiml so far?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:26 pm Hi everybody

Hey Kate! Cool to finally play a game with you. I can't be certain, but I suspect we might have a decent yin-yang dynamic available to us, you and I. Your style is heavily intuitive, and it's a nice complement to, well, you'll see.

Only applicable if you received a town role.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:23 pm I know a reasonable number of players here (although the only person I have significant playing everyone with is Lime Coke) and I've seen everyone else minus Quin play at least once since I specced a couple recent games before deciding if to sign up or not.

Anyone you think you're particularly well-suited to read correctly?

Please tell me everything about your vote, @falcon45ca. Pour your rationale over me like hot syrup into a freshly ironed waffle.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:19 pm [VOTE: jae] aubergine

Well that's an unfortunate start, but I appreciate your venom!

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:18 pm I AM TOWN!

Welcome, O Life! I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience, and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race

Hello falcon. Are you prepared to join me in this journey of conquest over those who would ransack our homes and leer over our children's beds in the night?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game

Good to play with you again Michelle.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pmLinki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects

Well exactly two of us murder in cold blood, unless of course we want to argue that the civilians are the bad guys for killing someone first. We can disregard the moral implications of our actions though. Everything we do here is for the greater good.

Nevermind. They are backwards.

Still dedicated.

Check Syn out. The ISO links are in proper order. Dedicated.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:59 pmHey folks.

How's it going, Wiml? What's the scoop with you? Feeling good I hope? Having a good summer? Feeling any internal instinctive twitch to murder people in cold blood?

To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.