The Syndicate

This is wearing me down now. I need help filling out the rest. I am starting to lose energy and it's impacting my ability to reason clearly.

Stop letting the thread take a crap when I make big posts. Talk.

Are speedchuck and TonyStarkPrime compatible as mafia teammates?

speedchuck's stuff

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Tony's in the salad. Okee dokee.

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This begins a trend of what becomes one of speedchuck's more aggressive pushes.

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Continued.

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Continued.

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Continued. I appears speed followed through on this at least to faciliate a third semi "wagon" counterpart to the bigger ones on LC and MR on Day 2. Given that arrangement it does mean quite as much to me.

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speedchuck makes the suspect shortlist. Neato.

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Idle chatter about LC. Nothing.

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Tony's suspicion of speed turns into action.

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Sustained.

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That oft-sought tone of indignance begins to appear in speedchuck's handling of this exchange. Nice little look.

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I may be missing context here regarding what "town read" is specifically being referred to here. Regardless, the assessment is negative.

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speedchuck prodded and Tony responded. Boring.

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Huh?

I have no idea why that speedchuck post is one that a mafioso doesn't make.

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The credit didn't last anyway.

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Conclusion

The antagonism here generally looks authentic. There's still too many examples of posts that mean nothing to me to award total dissociation.

Light green

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:14 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
I am happy lynching here barring a role claim.

There's not that much else to say about Long Con and ts account it seems. This appears to be Mikey's final vote of Day 1? Correct me if not. That's worth something I suppose. Their interactions were minimal on Day 2.

I'd call the overall vibe light green.

[mention]ts account[/mention] what did you find problematic about the interactions of Epignosis and Long Con?

Today's lesson is that null reads are the worst and should never exist.

Are Long Con and ts account compatible as mafia teammates?

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LC mentions Mikey numerous times in his first page of posts, but nearly all of it is within discussions of other people -- so it's difficult to find something truly relevant. This is the closest it gets, and LC was critical of at least one Mikey post. "It's a really weird response."

On Day 2 the mentions cease, so this didn't amount to anything.

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ts account's stuff

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This is a defense of LC, albeit barely.

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This is an observation of the Day 1 LC wagon that would seem to imply a read -- one of suspicion? I can't assume; it's not stated.

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It's not null!

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There are a few early examples like this wherein LC makes some assertion and Mikey responded with a question. Given the town read the questions don't seem oriented toward suspicion; I don't feel like grabbing them all out of the massive multi-quote posts.

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Second time ts account pressed this, so it's nice follow-up.

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k cool beans

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How do you go from a real read back to null KLFDGHLDFKJGBLSKDFJJHBX

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HOLD

gotta go, I'll post the so far, TBC

Are Long Con and TonyStarkPrime compatible as mafia teammates?

Long Con's stuff

Nothing. There is no stuff. Long Con did not say anything to or about Tony.

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TonyStarkPrime

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I like the way this is worded.

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Tony agreed with Mac's refusal to suspect Long Con. Sure.

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Stances are fine. Dunno why this is the stance.

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:49 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:33 pm Long Con was the competing wagon to leetic. They ended up tied. Nobody sprang to save him. What does this mean? I can go either way on it.
What do you think it means?
Listen punk, I'm the one who asks questions here!

I am of two minds.
Scenario 1) The mafia team had no preference over who was lynched and was content to let two civilians face the coin flip of destiny. I've never seen a tie where things were so stagnant. Long Con's self-vote made it 4 to 4 several minutes ahead of the deadline, and then nobody else moved. Lots of people were around, but the leetic camp was entrenched on leetic, and the LC camp was entrenched on LC (and the TH/non-committed camp was farting around like losers). Mafia members have no reason to stick their necks out to determine one lynch or another when either one will do just fine.

Scenario 2) Long Con is mafia. This one comes with a couple other variables, none of which I'd bank on.
2.1) Long Con is mafia, his self-vote put his partners in a very awkward position wherein they need to leap to save him. Long Con is an experienced and adept mafia player. He knows better than to do that to his partners.

2.2) Long Con is mafia, but his team possesses some sort of mechanic which would have prevented him from being lynched yesterday (maybe they control a tiebreaker, maybe they have a member with a vote addition/subtraction power, etc.). This is baseless speculation. I cannot assert it with any confidence.
Scenario 3, I guess, is that no mafia members were present at the end of the day with the potential exception of Long Con. Why he'd endanger himself like that, I cannot say.

I have more confidence in scenario 1 than anything else.
Or Long Con is mafia and just hosted a game where a civilian threw it and he's well aware of that recency bias.
All the more reason why he wouldn’t do it, I feel

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:20 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:12 pm I'm not caught up but I'm kinda surprised I would need to quantify that self-voting is scummy. Especially in a close situation like this. Does self-voting accomplish anything other than gambling for town cred?
This gets on what Epi was saying. LC was there when G-Man self voted, he knows if he’s town and dies he’s getting shredded. If LC has a negative vote it would make sense as town or scum.

Tony is not interested in the self-vote as a case against LC. Neato.

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Tony tends to have these highly specific theories that I often don't understand; I think they're a product of his experience in the more role-emphasized culture at HCRealms. In any event this is a waffle.

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LC is barely relevant here, but here you go.

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I don't really disagree with Tony's rationale here. LC is again an incidental part of this dialogue, so shrug.

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Again, highly theoretical musings that at this point mean little to me.

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I can vaguely follow the progression of Tony's read to this point albeit with the challenge of my aversion to the broad philosophies underlying the logic.

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He dissociated LC from Radish for reasons likely embedded in context I have missed. Sure.

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Conclusion

Sometimes this is difficult for me to track with, because I think Tony plays within a mental space that is very different to my own. That doesn't mean he is dishonest though, and I tend to think this looks like someone trying to work out Long Con under various theoretical dynamics. His general trust for LC coupled with LC's failure to acknowledge him strikes me as something less fitting to mafia teammates -- if LC is mafia and Tony isn't, then that can reflect LC's desire to maintain the status quo of that read and not disrupt the waters.

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Are Long Con and speedchuck compatible as mafia teammates?

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There's a hint of indignance here in response to what I think was a vote from speedchuck. Tiny point.

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chuck called it an exercise in tickling Long Con's balls. As exciting as that may be for both of them, it lends no inspiration here. LC's response is essentially a shrug.

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This means nothing to me.

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I included the leetic post for context. At face value LC griping about the word "opportunistic" is a bit weak. I wouldn't say the tone of this speedchuck defense bothers me. The rationale isn't great.

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When the antagonism is framed with humor I don't know what to do with it.

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Smarmy, but LC moved his vote in his next post so it's irrelevant.

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This is where the tickling of the balls may be observed. I don't care about it.

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This game is all about making me mad.

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LC is the name preceding the tossed salad of lynch options, and he's within a waffle. This is almost blatant in its non-committal form to the point that I want to say it's decent. WIFOM if you care.

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speedchuck absolved himself of the responsibility of hunting by gluing himself to some vague and often untrue principle of Mafia in general. Attacking Long Con purely over the self-vote just seems so weak, and I think it's nice for LC.

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Meh

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Now on Day 2 it has become a case, still concluding with the silly self-vote. speedchuck has rarely made a motion of this sort in the game.

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Conclusion

There's nothing here that tells me they cannot be teammates. None of it makes me feel like they are teammates. It's quite a snore of an interaction. They're compatible if only technically.

Yellow

Are Epignosis and ts account compatible as mafia teammates?

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This looks like an accusation Epignosis has hurled at Sloonei and I eight hundred times each over the years.

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k

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This looks more like getting buddy buddy with Sloonei than something about Michelangelo.

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Epi's implying that he means to keep the pedal to the metal against ts account.

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Sloonei gave Epignosis a reason to call ts account a civilian, and Epignosis responded by saying "my vote stands until you give me a reason to call ts account a civilian.

I don't see much space anymore for Epignosis to be a civilian with crap like this, and I think it's a decent look for Mickey.

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This is starting to reek of opportunism.

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I paid about 25% attention to this game before this day phase, and even I can say that this is absolute crap. ts account "looks nervous"? What the fuck?

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GOTCHA

No.

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Taunting and antagonism usually reserved for the good boys.

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Sure, true, whatever.

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Here's Epi wiggling around some pretty basic ts account questions. Doesn't look like the stuff of teammates.

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The Day 2 tone has shifted from accusatory to neener neener.

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Every time I see a "null" read I snuff an angel out from my heavenly throne.

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It's pretty terrible. I'm not sure why Mikhail didn't pursue this harder. Eventually this became "I wouldn't lynch you today though" for some damn reason. Everyone in this game is so forgiving.

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Are you fucking kidding me

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Okay great so why is he fucking null all the time

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This is a bit more recognizable as civilian earnestness, though it's still do freaking forgiving. I am so frustrated reading this game lol.

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Generic prod

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We seem to be trending doward, hopefully to somewhere concretely south of "null".

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Conclusion

I think Epignosis' posts tend to look quite nice for ts account. I wish I could say the same of Miguel's own posts. I badly want to take vengeance out and call this interaction "null yellow".

On balance though, I'll call it a net positive. Sorta.

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This is the moment ts account has been waiting for his entire life.

Are Epignosis and TonyStarkPrime compatible as mafia teammates?

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Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:17 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:31 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:45 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:22 pm Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.

Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.
I would also say the same about JaggedJimmyJay, but he's Schrödinger's player right now. I'll join you on the Sloonei vote, he has three posts and they're all about an issue that's above his pay grade as a player. In A World Asunder, town Sloonei opened Day 1 with two town reads and a vote on a suspect. [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
This is perhaps worse than the Leetic but it’s heart is in the right place
Can you clarify this remark?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:12 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:16 am Sloonei is town. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him talking mechanically. It's not pro anything and doesn't deter the game at all. An argument could be made that it is beneficial towards the game and lets you understand what could be going on. That newfound understanding can better your reads.

Why was Sloonei being voted for mechanical talk? Ts why are you gungho about it? I can't help but agree with Sloonei that suspecting someone over mechanical is suspicious in of itself. It's lazy and never actually feels like a genuine read. Furthermore, scum use this too much to get by with their fake suspicions. Thus why it feels lazy and not genuine.
I don’t like this post from Drago. Ironically it’s seems like something I’d post but that’s irrelevant.
Tell me more
The defense hinges on what amounts to a non-existent part of the case. It seems like Drago is more focused on earning town cred
From what I've seen, Dragomir is a civilian. I don't care that he is trying to earn "town cred." Civilians SHOULD be doing that. Noble enterprise.

These exchanges are rather token and soft. I don't view them as necessarily alarming, but they're easy enough for teammates anyway.

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At least incidentally defensive of Tony.

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This one is a concrete accusation and almost in direct opposition to the prior defense. At twelve posts Tony is an easy target, so this is a decent look for dissociation.

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Epi drew a link between Funnygurl and Tony, presumably on the basis of the prior exchange. The connection is itself junk, but I think it's telling that he focused his aggression first upon Tony for "not talking more". Epignosis doesn't give a shit about that.

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This is bullshit on foremost, but even if it's accepted I'd argue it evidences a mindset hole after the previous thing. "I want to lynch Tony over Funnygurl" next to "I like when mafia talk" just tells me Epignosis doesn't have this suspicion in the first place. That's a terrible reason to lynch Tony over Funnygurl even if the connection is taken seriously.

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"Sure, I guess I'll prod the guy who cast suspicion upon the voiceless ghost" -- just a post for the sake of a post

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This looks like Epignosis trying to pin Tony for inconsistency the same way he did with Sloonei. Looking for a lynch.

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k

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Accomodating response. This is a frustrating trend across this game so far. Y'all have been so nice to people who are trying to kill you.

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Dunno what this read is, but sure.

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Pro-Epi take.

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When I am in charge, "borderline" as a read will be a capital offense.

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This dialogue went nowhere either way.

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Conclusion

It's a mixed bag. Some of Epignosis' beefs were decent looks, but Tony handled them so gently that it kills much of that credit for me. I wouldn't call them incompatible.

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Are Epignosis and speedchuck compatible as mafia teammates?

Epignosis' stuff

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Banter.

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This post is not classically Epignosian in a way that interests me and may not interest others.

Epignosis values concision. Superfluous/redundant language is to be shunned. Here, he said something twice that did not need to be said twice. "I'm not concerned". It almost reads like he is trying to convince himself of what he is saying as much as he is trying to convince leetic. I think there might be something revealing in the psychology of this duplication.

Even if you don't care about that, log it as a defense of speedchuck over essentially nothing.

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Epi misses a reference to his own line.

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This is at least incidentally defensive of speedchuck in that it questions the sense of a post describing a grievance with speedchuck.

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This was almost an accusation until the last post.

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This question strikes me as pointless.

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speedchuck's stuff

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This inherently implies an accusation of Epignosis is dubious enough that it is difficult to take seriously.

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Okay.

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Oh really?

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Oh really.

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Conclusion

I see minimal-to-no evidence that either of these players has made an effort to get a read on the other. They're floating through space, colliding at random on a few occasions leaving only the faintest of scuffs -- and in each such case they bandaged one another. It's all extremely safe.

Red

Are Epignosis and Long Con compatible as mafia teammates?

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Banter

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k

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Bullshit reason to vote LC.

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Dunno what this question is. A lot of these posts are bad, but they're bad in a way that is purely about Epignosis -- LC's name doesn't seem connected necessarily.

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Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:09 pm
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Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:54 am So, leetic... I'll do this like counting cards in Blackjack. Start at 0, +value for towny, -value for wolfy.

First post (beyond guitar vid) is criticising the level of Day 1 activity in the thread. A valid criticism, we were 7 hours into Day 1, and not one player had tried to get serious. I liked this opener. +2 (2)

Second post votes Sloonei for having three posts, 100% dedicated to setup speculation. 4 hours AFTER telling the thread to get going, with still no serious responses. I liked this as well, which is why I decided to double down the vote. +2 (4)

Third post is a little sketchy. It's nice to see the genesis of the Mikey-Sloonei thing, but leetic's calling Mikey's post "weird" doesn't check out, because Mikey isn't "calling out Sloonei for setup speculation", he's criticising Sloonei's speculation with a hypothetcal designed to reveal the pointlessness of Sloonei's discussion. -1 (3)

Post 4:
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:13 am
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:57 am
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:06 am
Y'know, this post is a bit weird. Mikey is calling out Sloonei for setup speculation, yet when you look at the first paragraph, that's exactly what he's doing here

Care to explain?
I would like to know from you. Are you worried about me pocketing you?
Mikey's behavior is weird, last game when he was town he wasn't going after the people doing setup speculation despite the fact that there was a lot going on. And what's with this business about pocketing, like of course I'm not going to discount the possibility of someone being scum just because they townread me. Now I'm voting Mikey for this reason.
I quoted this one because Mikey's post is something I don't really understand. I don't see how that is, in any way, a response to leetic's question. It's a really weird response.

THEN leetic responds to Mikey... but in third person, like he's presenting Mikey's post to everyone else rather than responding to it. Also just weird, I don't really like that he specifically disengaged from the conversation, but it makes them look less than teammate-compatible, so there's that. Vote switch does please me, and makes sense, if Mikey's departure from previous town behaviour is accurate, it's a better reason to vote than Sloonei's speculation. +0 (3)... -1 for ts account.

Post 5 continues the meatiness that I am so far liking in leetic's posts. The "pocketing" discussion so far is just randomly generated by Mikey, and leetic's response to his pressing on the subject is the right response to the odd curveball.

Suspicion of tedxtr's early towncore feels good.

Radishes calls leetic out on the casual (too casual?) talk, leetic gives a reasonable response. Maybe Radishes is right, I wouldn't have noticed such a thing if he hadn't pointed it out. Slight minus on this post's score, a la Radish.

The tedxtr interactions, I don't agree with tedxtr's criticism of leetic's... whole game so far, I guess. +1 (4)

Post 6 leetic gives a list of reads with some explanation. Looks like genuine solving. +1 (5)

Post 7 Dragomir responded negatively to leetic's assessment that he was just sheeping Sloonei with no original thoughts. Dragomir's reaction to the accusation was mild defensive hostility, which is a -1 for him, and leetic's reply was a reasonable explanation and a prod toward fixing the apparent problem. Dragomir would have looked better if he had given original thoughts instead of just bristling at leetic's observation. +1 again for leetic (6)

Post 8 Dragomir doubles down on the idea that leetic is prodding him to "create random thoughts out of thin air so [he] could be original". Like, where do thoughts come from usually? Amazon? You have to, like, think about things to get thoughts. leetic shames Dragomir and casts a vote that I judge to be valid. +1 (7) Is leetic still in the lead for votes? He looks really town so far, where are the suspicions coming from?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:25 pm leetic cont'd...

Post 9, follow-up thoughts on Dragomir's bristly rebuke of leetic's suggestion that he could share some original thoughts. 0 (7)

Post 10 leetic challenges the "growing LC wagon" because no one was defending me. If leetic were bad, then he should have no problem at all with a growing town lynch. This looks very good, and I'm fine with the TMI bias I'm obviously showing. +2 (9)

Post 11 I don't really understand what tedxtr is saying here, I don't know the term "town blocking". leetic's response I don't get either... where is the monopolization of discussion happening? 0 (9)

Post 12 to clarify to Sloonei the Post 10 position on the LC votes. Casts some suspicion on speedchuck, but I don't really like the word "opportunistic" all that much. It's a big word that's pretty easy to throw around to put suspicion on people, and it's one I've used as a wolf in fake cases before. leetic says it twice here. -1 (8)

Post 13 again with the "opportunistic", and there's an "interesting" in there to boot. Dislike. -1 (7)

Post 14 is meh. Not too solvey, definition discussion and slight prod. 0 (7)

Post 15 was directed at me, asking my opinions on Mikey-Sloonei. Pretty basic. 0 (7)

Post 16 Drago and leetic snapping at each other a little, and it looks genuine to me, in that I don't think they are w/w. Drago's criticism is valid; two votes doesn't really make for wariness of a growing wagon. The "taken out of context" thing is weak. -1 (6)

Still well in the positives, a town lean at this point on leetic.

LC, can you point to any instance of your doing this exercise with anybody in the history of ever?

And why just leetic?

Giving LC for this sort of work seems unnecessary given my understanding of the Epignosis mafioso playbook if they're teammates.

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Epignosis egging on suspicion of Long Con based upon a self-vote is the world's greatest display of equine feces. I don't think that looks teammed.

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Bringing the bantz.

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Somewhat forgiving response to Epi's bullshit. Similar

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Conclusion

I am inclined to ignore the near-hammer vote when I consider this interaction. That occurred within the take-emergency-action time frame and I have seen mafia hammer their own anyway. Just considering the behavioral interactions, I lean away from them being teammates. Epignosis treated Long Con in a manner that I think is indicative of capitalizing on an easy target. Long Con's responses leave something to be desired, so I'll temper it a bit.

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I may have to go full JJJ for this one. I might have to be my worst self.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:54 amI dont get what the graph means

The idea is to assess the interactive compatibility of each pair of suspects. For example:

Review Long Con and Epignosis relative to one another. Do they seem compatible as teammates? Do they not? Indicate that on the chart where their names intersect, with a word or a color or whatever.

Do every pairing.

This helps to solidify world theories and potentially to eliminate names if they don't fit with anyone else.

If I am in BTSC with someone I suspect, I have no issue shooting them in the ass.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:45 am Bad news:
Ted has a ship

k so good then eh

Some of this seems silly to me.

We have a dead body. tedxtr is dead. Someone killed tedxtr. These truths are irrefutable.

Nobody has claimed that shot. Mac's role kills people. Is there a reason we need to keep talking about this?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:39 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:50 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
ted ain’t got no ship
so
Mac didn’t shoot him

I don't follow. As far as I saw, the ships only influence the player targeted -- Mac can still act upon others, but not be acted upon himself when he is doing a pirate ship.

Alright gang, let's start filling 'er out. The game can be completely solved here:

I failed to darken one line and that's really disappointing, but we forge onward.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:50 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
ted ain’t got no ship

so

The worst crime by one of my civilian reads was Long Con’s hammer-that-wasn’t. Even if Epignosis is a mafioso that was bad.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:42 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:40 am
Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad
GTH, Tony spent some time trying to lynch outside the dichotomy, which is a scum tactic, by the book.

I’ve considered doing that too.

Anyway, I’ll do my own research too assuming folks don’t hammer us back to heaven too fast.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:37 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:33 am If you’re the casing sort, Michelangelo, then a dedicated case against Tony and/or Long Con would go a long way. Your world at present is simply impossible if those two are what I generally read them to be. You may not have such a case right now, but it’d be a stupendous direction to head while the avatars are available to interpret and assess.
The problem is, I cannot make a decent wolf case on either of these players. Most of their play has been baseline at best, and I am perhaps a bit worried I would walk away with a town read on the slots, and become further confused. It would be much easier to towncase myself, but ted already did a much, much better job of that than I could ever do on day 1.

Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad

JaggedJimmyJay
nutella

I don’t often get to break out the fabled purple.

Maybe ted said something nasty about Jimmy Garoppolo in BTSC.

If you’re the casing sort, Michelangelo, then a dedicated case against Tony and/or Long Con would go a long way. Your world at present is simply impossible if those two are what I generally read them to be. You may not have such a case right now, but it’d be a stupendous direction to head while the avatars are available to interpret and assess.

In a closed setup I’m not sure temporary BTSC should imply the participants will be trustful of one another in the thread.

Hey ts account how come every time Turnip Head said mean things about your alignment and integrity you treated them like a wrongie instead of a baddie

Regular > Cinnamon

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:10 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
For the last time.
I.
Do.
Not.
Eat.
LIFE.
Cereal.

That’s unfortunate. It’s my favorite. I like it, hey Mikey

Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass

This reminds me that I’m mad tedxtr is dead. I wanted to ask if there’s significance to the Bengals B on Baby Yoda’s beanie.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:58 am The yellow stuff in my post is in accord with the yellow stuff in mac’s role. If he was sailing the seven seas last night, so too was somebody on the mafia team.

If he used it on Night 1 then everything else is null: funnygurl’s claim is a lie.

I suppose what I'm not following is why it's more likely he used it on Night 1 than Night 2. There's a corpse on Night 2.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:45 am When Mac uses his pirate ship he can’t be targeted by anyone who is not also on a pirate ship that same night. He can also perform a kill (presumably on anyone regardless of their proximity to the sea) on those same nights. He can only use it every other night.

In speculating about which night is more likely to have been Mac’s choice to use it, Night 1 may make more sense. If Mac used his pirate ship Night 1, funnygurl could not have received a report on him.
If Mac used his pirate ship Night 2, the mafia team must have also been pirates.

Mac role:

Edward Kenway

Pirate Ship: You have a pirate ship! That’s awesome, dude. Using your pirate ship, you can make yourself untargetable to anyone that doesn’t also possess a ship. You can only use this ability every other night though, cause you have to restock your food and supplies. While on your ship, you can target someone to try and kill.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

Is there a reason why the yellow stuff would not fit into the Night 2 activities? The role implies the existence of at least one other "ship", and it seems reasonable to presume the mafia have a ship.

If he used it on Night 1, shouldn't we be seeing another corpse out there that he shot? A hypothetical role block from Epignosis would have been rendered useless by the pirate ship.

What a sentence I just wrote.

Jay when investigating the behaviors of players:

Jay when investigating the votes of players:

Jay when investigating role mechanics:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:45 am When Mac uses his pirate ship he can’t be targeted by anyone who is not also on a pirate ship that same night. He can also perform a kill (presumably on anyone regardless of their proximity to the sea) on those same nights. He can only use it every other night.

In speculating about which night is more likely to have been Mac’s choice to use it, Night 1 may make more sense. If Mac used his pirate ship Night 1, funnygurl could not have received a report on him.
If Mac used his pirate ship Night 2, the mafia team must have also been pirates.

Give me a minute to translate these words from technobabble into Jay Mafia Speak. I'll go look at the role.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:40 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:37 am I suppose the next natural hunting course is to investigate the interrelations of my suspects to determine whether any glaring these two don't work together pairings may exist.

That frankly sounds like a lot after I just did that on the baseball diamond. JJJ so tired. I will need help. I can post my usual pretty chart to clarify precisely what investigations I view as necessary.
Do you have any comment on mac’s pirate ship?

I have paid no attention to that conversation. It looked dumb. What's up with Mac's pirate ship?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:34 am Sounds like something an umpire would say.

I suppose the next natural hunting course is to investigate the interrelations of my suspects to determine whether any glaring these two don't work together pairings may exist.

That frankly sounds like a lot after I just did that on the baseball diamond. JJJ so tired. I will need help. I can post my usual pretty chart to clarify precisely what investigations I view as necessary.

This has been a pleasure. This game got started, and I realized that I would get to lord over the peons from on-high without having to do anything. So I paid my focus to the baseball heist, and whaddya know as soon as that one comes to an end it's time to descend upon this realm in my avatar form and bellow the wisdom of Celestia to all.

:coffee:

Can someone give me their best synopsis of the general reception Epignosis has had in this game before Day 3?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:26 am I have 100 posts already?

I'm not sure these lowly folks deserve gods as majestic as we are, pal.

Imagine how annoying we can be in a 72 hour period.

Epignosis, why did you claim in the first place?

Sloonei is good.

chorus of groans

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:17 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:14 am We gave the power to Sloonei because he was the top civilian read.
>:(

He's still my top civilian read.

To be fair: I think there are a ton of civilian situations across the Mafia landscape wherein a mass claim would win a game -- but it is refused for either fear of the boogeyman or because it feels cheap to do it.

I don't think he fits with Turnip Head regardless of the vigilante shot, he doesn't look like a mafioso (and we all just saw how he looks when he is one in the GOC), and almost without fail when someone cases Sloonei on the basis of the questions he asks it's because they don't get him or they want to smear him.

We gave the power to Sloonei because he was the top civilian read.

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