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I gave it too you. I stole it from Sloonei's corpse.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:36 pm lol I had a random redirect that someone had given me and I used it on Sig. His kill could have gone anywhere.
It randomed to me.
Could have gone to Jack. Could have gone to Nanook, or to Sig. Maybe that would have completely changed the outcome of the game. Probably not, unless it was Jack.
Nova in Dogs vs Cats tho
The LC thing thoTurnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:57 pm So are we making the right choice here? Sig played silly but we've lynched towns for playing randomly before... I'm having trouble viewing his actions as bad. At the time it looked like he was saving speedchuck, but Chuck flipped town.
Could, might, didn't..sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:28 pm And the idea that i'd wait last second to save speed doesn't make alot of sense nobody was active for the last like half n hour I could've built up a reasoning to switch at any time. What's even worse was that the first thing Speed did was come in and push for my lynch he's trying to save himself an extra phase.
You better write a fucking essay explaining what happened last night if you wanna livre.
When you made this post, the Sig wagon had already been abandoned and you were the only person on it.
You shouldn't. This is a team game.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:12 am I can’t leave you people to your own devices for half a day jfc
It's okay, you aren't.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:56 pm Townies don’t say they were bussing. Townies don’t get happy as mislynches. Universally scumread townies don’t leave wills in case they get nightkilled.
I cannot be the only one who is seeing this.
Unless we can make a kill fail we are probably moving to 4v2 which means it's lylo tomorrow.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:45 pm Sig simultaneously has massive teammate equity with Speed and is also trying to set him up for the easy mislynch tomorrow and I’ll figure out which world I’m in later but this whole vote to save Speed and then say okay cool we’ll just lynch Speed tomorrow is super scummy. Scummier than his treatment of Sloonei, even.
Huge mindset slip, too. We probably have two wolves. So we probably only have one mislynch left. Sig is laughing. He’s happy we mislynched Creature and can’t keep it in.
Listen to me this time.
I don't wanna lynch LC.
He was already voting LC, but he tried to see if he could get people to follow him.
He posts a bunch of stuff on a bunch of different people, like this:sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:23 pm What're the chances that Collin/Sloonie was also mafia?
Here's my thoughts most people had okay reasoning for their votes last phase in a pool of four players with one mafia and one civ, I feel like it wouldn't be impossible to say that another one was mafia. Collin voters seem to have dropped off while Sloonie has retained some.
My major issue isn't that I think Sloonie is that townie, just that he's an asset and has been pretty active and given alot of content. If he's a civ it's a major hit.
Then votes LC and never looks back:sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:49 pm Based off of Rej alone: Sloonie, Jack and Speed would be 3 to pursue.
Ignoring Rej: Creature, LC, Speed, and Collins. I don't remember why I voted for him, but since I did I'll throw that down.
Combo of both in order of whom I'd lynch: Creature, Speed, LC then Sloonie.
DDL is probably my tin foil mafia read right now.
Day 4 he doubles down on it, though at this point Sloonei is more or less doomed.
[mention]sig[/mention] you still want to lynch LC?
Then there is this... thing... where he doesn't say anything commital about either Sloon or Rej:sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 amGonna play the culture card here, I like to try to distinguish third party, no point in hunting survivors SKs you should go after. Same with Cult.Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:51 am1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pmOh hey, just found a vote on Rej. Hadn't noticed it because Sig seems to be allergic to aubergines.Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pmthe way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying mesig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pmI could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.
I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.
I note it down
At this moment the score is:sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:59 pm Throwing a vote on Rej while I attempt to reread some things, including the current wagons and Dunya's DDL thing. Like i just said I remember disliking something about Rej. There was also the D0 alarming comment about me which in hindsight I don't like.
speedchuck Why Rej?
Dom 3
Dragomir 2
Sloonei 2
Rej 1
Others 1
But he 3 minutes later he does this:
It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.
I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.
Thats why I said noteworthy.
But then... he voted for Rej! I completely missed this, due to Sig being allergic to aubergines.sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:57 pm Time for a "player salad" post I guess to summarize some of my thoughts.
Dunya's posts are meh, while I do see what she's saying re DDL i'm just having a bad gut reaction. She's acting very different even tone wise from her normal civ playstyle and I don't believe I've ever seen a mafia Dunya.
Nutella, as others have said, isn't being very fence sitting as she normally is. However, it's only day 1 so there isn't alot to go on so I'd rather not lynch her.
I feel what Drag is saying, while I've gotten a few gut/tone reads nothings really popped out yet.
Nanook seems to mainly be getting by on zany posts and a few sprinkles of content, but the issue here is most of that content is based around culture clash/playstyle not game solving. He looks like he's involved, he's present, but not really contributing.
Dom, Mac, and LC have early civ whiffs based off what I've seen would't want to lynch any yet. (If they turn out to be the mafia team I want credit for naming all three in one area though.)
I'm liking Boo and Jacks posts, both seem pretty genuine. I do dislike that Jack switched from his profile again though, preferred the last one.
Sloonie is around doing Sloonie stuff and things, no read there.
I disliked something about DDL and Rej, but can't for the life of me remember what it was, meaning I should review there either today or next phase.
Creature after moaning D0 about lack of participation and how town is gonna loose because of it seems to have been really absent in game solving? Maybe I just missed his posts, but that raised an eyebrow.
So with this text spew of all my random game related thoughts, I guess I'm leaning towards a Dunya or maybe a Nanook/Rej lynch. I'm not really happy with any of the three wagons, but since it's day one and none are me guess i can live with them. Quite literally since I won't get lynched.
Before: this vote was made, the score wassig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:59 pm Throwing a vote on Rej while I attempt to reread some things, including the current wagons and Dunya's DDL thing. Like i just said I remember disliking something about Rej. There was also the D0 alarming comment about me which in hindsight I don't like.
@speedchuck Why Rej?
Day 2 he arrives with this:
And this:
And THIS:
Arguably the most important Sig post in this game. This is where he comes, places his dick on the table and makes the double mafia vote, which could have resulted in an actual double mafia lynch. If this doesn't make Sig look town, nothing will. This is what the poll looks like when Sig makes the vote:sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:24 pm Caught up a bit will have more thoughts come the night phase voting for rej and sloonie.
I really like the boo case on him and for rej I've been sus on him for awhile.
I'd much rather go with nanook today. But that's not happening so I'm throwing my votes somewhere where Itll do something, bet it'll come back to bite me.
But he voted for Mac. Rej did not have any votes at that time.
He then pushed Rej a lot, telling people like Boo and TSP to vote for him, but nobody followed him.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:21 pmThose two fifties have completely opposite meaningsRej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pmtbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of formspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 amIs the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 amwow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?
did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.
[VOTE: Rej] aubergine
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:19 am [VOTE: Rej and Jack] aubergine
I'm going to bed. Tomorrow will finally be a free day for me.
Then after making a couple post shading TSP, he did this:speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:16 pmI originally voted Rej because of his weaselly language when asked a direct question. And I haven't really been here since.
He never looked away from Rej, though. If Speed is bad he was here to sack a teammate:speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:42 pm [unvote]Jack[VOTE: [TSP]] aubergine
I'm still leery on Jack for some reason. I've been trying to read him like he's alternate-universe me, and I probably need to stop doing that.
Though his TSP wagon did help save Sloon. But aside from Sig nobody had a perfect double scum vote anyway (from what we currently know).speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:31 pmI zoned out while reading this post. No more layers please.
I'm only lynching you because you had weasely wording and didn't take a stance on anything you said. You took a sarcastic statement of yours and tried to boil it down to an 'Interesting', which made no sense.
Step out and find someone who has done something worse if you want to do something. Trying to make your post look (artificially) more pleasing is what got you into this, after all.
There is also this gem:
If speed flips scum I might lynch Sig next.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:49 pm If sloon is scum, his teammates are in Dunya, Colin, Jack, and Sig. That's what the readlist quoted above tells me.
And he jumps off:speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:54 pmThat's actually a tough question.
Hm.
Probably Colin, unless something's changed in the 36 hours I haven't been in game. Colin is usually a presence, and he's like a void in my head right now.
I might jump there anyway. I don't like that there are no big voices on the Sloon train. Makes it feel weird.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:35 pmBaby interrupted me. Trying to get her to sleep.
I am. I will when I figure out where I want to go.
Need to read the LC case, then choose that or Colin I think
But then Jack came with a killer post against Sloonei, and Speed sheeped on it:speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:37 pm I'll just vote colin for now and see about LC when the baby quits making it imposiblw
Voting Sloonei after this post.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:07 pmOoh, spicy.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:02 pm At the buzzer, votes are
Colin 5 - Jack, Boo, Sloonei, Tony, Nanook
Rej 5 - DDL, Jack, Sig, Dunya, Speed
Sloonei 5 - LC, Creature, Nanook, Sig, Nutella
Tony 6 - Rej, Dunya, Sloonei, Speed, Dunya, DDL
And Colin votes Rej. He chose to take Rej from 33% chance to lynch to 100% chance to lynch and himself and Sloonei from 33% to 0%.
If Colin is a wolf, the only reason he votes Rej is because Sloonei is also a wolf. Otherwise, he’d lynch good townie Sloonei over himself and good role partner Rej. A bus on Rej earns him no cred.
So under the idea that Rej is probably teamed with Sloonei and/or Colin and under the idea that Colin can only be a wolf if Colin and Sloonei are both wolves, Sloonei should go first.
If Sloonei flips wolf, we get a wolf and we reevaluate Colin with the knowledge that everything Sloonei said cane from a wolf. If Sloonei flips town, we know all his reads were real and we confirm mislynch bait Colin.
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:44 pmWhat if I told you that we ARE wavering off sloonei?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pmIt's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to mespeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pmWe're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm Hello, is anything important happening or can I check out again?
Pretty important.
Colin died, and Sloonei was saved.
That's speed history for ya.
We don't know if LC is good or bad, true. But if he is good, you being in the LC wagon instead of the Sloon wagon means you increased mafia's survival chances.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:36 pmYes, not sure how that's antitown considering we were lynching another town.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:35 pmAnd helped the LC wagon, which was going strong until the very end.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:31 pmActually I opposed the Colin wagon D3Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:23 pm Your most active posting time actually happened D3, but that's when your votes went the most against the town.
If you're bad, the theory is that you shat the bed on Day 2 then made up on Day 3 by helping Sloonei survive.
Yes, I misvoted a lot, but that doesn't matter because I tend to vote quite a lot to test wagons
And helped the LC wagon, which was going strong until the very end.Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:31 pmActually I opposed the Colin wagon D3Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:23 pm Your most active posting time actually happened D3, but that's when your votes went the most against the town.
If you're bad, the theory is that you shat the bed on Day 2 then made up on Day 3 by helping Sloonei survive.
Yes, I misvoted a lot, but that doesn't matter because I tend to vote quite a lot to test wagons
The main point of my analysis was to reposition myself in this game because I was feeling lost ever since Rej got lynched.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:27 pm thoughtspew:
I'm a little worried about how Sig hasn't been engaging people in thread today. He's sort of laying low.
Stuff like this:Sig hasn't responded still.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:15 am @sig
Either you missed the question or I missed the answer.
Can you walk me through your progression on Sloonei and LC?
You said earlier today that you suspected them both but from your iso, it seems like you didn't suspect Sloonei until you voted him and you asked Sloonei not to vote for LC, which implies you didn't suspect him either.
I'm finding your TH cases makes me trust TH more because I don't trust you.
That and his doubling down (thanks LC) on how he definitely doesn't know what bussing is rub me the wrong way. Like, even if that post was a mistake, he could have either been confused or corrected the mistake. Instead he made a post that concatenated tunneling/bussing together not once, but twice, just to get the point across. Similar to the reasons I suspected Rej, the post seems built just to reassure without acknowledging the questions asked.
I'm also a little worried about how quickly this creature thing came up, but I don't have grounds to oppose it other than his D2 vote. And Jack's metaread, but meta is trash. I have more against Sig, but could see creature scum.
Tinfoil: I'm worried about how DDL pulled a Syndrome ("If everyone is bussing... no one is") and how most of his posts seem focused on opening up the suspect POE pool as much as he can. Like the post above. "Well, I gave you legitimate reason as to why it's not creature, and here it is in detail... but it could totally be creature. Everyone is a suspect!"
He's not wrong, but it's getting me paranoid that he's trying to keep the pool big enough to close out.
lots of linki: Actually might be a little better on DDL. I'm seeing him put forward a somehwhat narrower pool.
No, he wasn't. I wasn't describing it accurately enough.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:53 pm DDL, I know you said that everyone has been an instrumental vote in a baddie lynch - which one was Creature?
Creature's claims to townishness: he posted a bunch of times in a row, and he hounded Sloonei (like a blind newborn hound maybe?). I see nothing there to say Creature isn't bad.
He's in mine, it's just that my poe is too big by virtue of you bastards liking to vote for teammates too much.
