The Syndicate

GG

1. Boc
2. Millicent
3. Kenneth Haight
4. Blaidd
5. Yura
6. D, Hunter
7. Goldmask
8. Jar Bairn
9. Morne Spirit
10. Renna
11. Iji
12. Gurranq
13. Roderika
14. Nepheli Loux
15. Seluvis
16. (vote omgus) White Mask Varre
17. (vote omgus) Witch-Hunter Jerren
18. (vote omgus) Corhyn
19. Gideon
20. Lost Snow Spirit
21. Hewg
22. Miriel
23. Diallos
24. (vote omgus) Irina
25. Big Boggart
26. Sellen
27. Rogier
28. Grape Spirit
29. Fia
30. Gostoc
31. Pidia
32. Siofra River Spirit
33. Bernahl
34. Albus
35. Frustrated Spirit
36. Thops
37. Rennala
38. Nomadic Merchant West Altus Plateau
39. Alexander
40. (analysis) Melina
41. (vote omgus) Hyetta
42. (vote omgus) Latenna
43. Enia
44. Deathtouched Spirit
45. (analysis) Melina
46. Study Hall Spirit
47. Dung Eater
48. Rya
49. Windmill Spirit
50. (analysis) Melina
51. Gowry
52. (analysis) Melina
53. Patches
54. Hermit Merchant
55. Goldmask / Silent NPC
56. [none]
57. Shabriri

Ahhh, may chaos take the world! May chaos take the world!

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:50 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:51 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:45 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:27 pm Now we're squared up, how about we play nice from now on?

T
ilario
Wilgy

T-lean
Hally
Neon
IAWY

W
Porscha
DeeZees

Thanks for not reading.

With fruits of your labor, sure!

What makes you put Wilgy higher than Hally? Or specifically, what makes Hally only a townlean?

Well, there you are again.

Wilgy based off how he buried Vivax when at 1-vote wagon and partially militated as well for Schiavetto lynch. It's in "fooled me" camp at this point, if coordinated.

Not ISO'ing Hally, because 600 posts is beyond me. Whatever frustrations they're relaying, I'll gamble that it's coming from town at this point. Plus, just like Michelle, I'd say they wouldn't stick their head to oppose a Schiavetto policy lynch this heavily as wolfmates.

Is a gamble worth more of a townlean than your thoughts on Neon and myself? Genuinely asking, no tone behind it

Thanks for not reading.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:35 pm Did this get a day extension or does the day end in like 25 mins

you can see in the name of the thread as soon above any recent post! It was extended to tomorrow morning at 10AM EST

...

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:45 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:27 pm Now we're squared up, how about we play nice from now on?

T
ilario
Wilgy

T-lean
Hally
Neon
IAWY

W
Porscha
DeeZees

Thanks for not reading.

With fruits of your labor, sure!

What makes you put Wilgy higher than Hally? Or specifically, what makes Hally only a townlean?

Well, there you are again.

Wilgy based off how he buried Vivax when at 1-vote wagon and partially militated as well for Schiavetto lynch. It's in "fooled me" camp at this point, if coordinated.

Not ISO'ing Hally, because 600 posts is beyond me. Whatever frustrations they're relaying, I'll gamble that it's coming from town at this point. Plus, just like Michelle, I'd say they wouldn't stick their head to oppose a Schiavetto policy lynch this heavily as wolfmates.

Now we're squared up, how about we play nice from now on?

T
ilario
Wilgy

T-lean
Hally
Neon
IAWY

W
Porscha
DeeZees

Thanks for not reading.

Spoken echoes linger here. Shall I share them with you?

==hallistic reads on players I couldn't infer anything from wolf interactions and wagons==

ilario

Cleared based on claim, I suppose. If it's fake on his part and/or town slept on countering, it's on them.

Of note in Porscha’s ISO

D2 still not hooked to the game and will not wolf side
D3 comment on not having noticed DeeZees in the game
D3 still without reads or willing to offer them
D3 makes huge statement on Ranmilia
D3 “why vivax cfd” comment appears in relation with nothing
D3 clears neon’s deleter claim as not wolf (for not shooting randomly)
D4? confirms Neon defensiveness is not necessarily wolf-indicative
D4? hella pinged by lily (TMI)
D4 reads a mega post from neon town
D5 reasoning policy, followed by ping vision on santy
D5 talk with ilario, inclined to tr neon (indignation genuine and ender stuff)
D5 comments on falcon and pyxxy pocketing
D6 finds IAWY votes solid?
D6 brush of IAWY posts based on wordiness
D6 ping on neon
D6 not willing to read Vivax ISO
D6 spat with Seanzie and later nutella
D6 wants to lynch falcon for slanking?
D6 back on voting falcon (prefers it), then michelle (what if)
D7 in theme of wolf slacking, sees rather Wilgy as candidate then Schiavetto
D7 “s’pose I should vote for Schia here eh”

Bit frustrating read and I ended with nothing concrete on what makestheir game clearable. Had some tunnel vision phases on certain players, developed a stronk defensive take on D6 with now-confirmed towners, total dip in activity since. Backs up a lot of info on Neon playing their town game.

Hunt progression either unfortunately not very focused or in fact not casting the towniest vibe. Ranmilia was sort of a policy issue, reads fine for early stage. Ping stuff on lily, don't even recall if it materialised into a vote. Falcon angle already low on reason and context. By D6 skipping on rebuttals to active players (IAWY) or analysis of caught wolves (Vivax). Wilgy ping also low on context.

Now that I've rewinded, Schiavetto vote comes back up as something they just followed through.

Some blindspots with players still alive just like Neon. Nothing on DeeZees, ilario.

I've started this ISO and Neon searching for the profile of someone totally unconnected with the paths taken by Vivax and Schiavetto. Well, there's zero interest in Vivax read and ultimate lynch. And there's just conformity with ditching the zero poster wolf. And falcon probably the only big wagon ever embarked on, I think? Unlikely to get any traction this phase, but my sense is that this could fit the profile.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:18 pm @Neon, why exactly are you voting me?

You are not gonna like the answer to that question lol.

I think it's important to have a counter wagon and will always advocate for such

Oh, a pleasure to see you. a pleasure indeed. I'd hoped to ask favour, when one of your ilk came along.

Might we at least counterwagon somebody I can myself vote on with any degree of confidence?

Spoken echoes linger here. Shall I share them with you?

==hallistic reads on players I couldn't infer anything from wolf interactions and wagons==

Of note in Neon’s ISO

Neon
D1-D2 overall grief and difficulty keeping up or pushing to read the backlog,
D1 reads Porscha town
D2 something in relation to TSP death and the deleter (claim?)
D2 vote on Ender, no reasoning (intentional sheep?)
D3 puts Porscha / Lily / Santy / Katze / Lumi in no-lynch tier
D3 principled take on NPC clears being okay for town
D3 bit of an omgus on nutella voting them? – later rebuttals on this being defensive towny
D3 stance on purge (i.e. D3) being the ”true start point of the game”, „ideal play is to just fuck around and bullshit until the purge”
D4? rescinds impression of having claimed deleter
D4 readings vibes on lilypetal
D4 vibes against Hally and with Porscha on chances of proper lynches / kills whilst NPCs still abound
D4 thinks Wilgy’s wagon has wolves
D4 probably the first ever interaction with DeeZees, at least that I’ve noticed
D4 vibes against IAWY as well on there being info to be gleande
D4 interactions with Vivax – the latter calling them “openwolfing”, but also unsure whether to wagon
D5 claims would never nightkill Ender
D5 states their votes on NPCs and off main wagons is within townrange
D5 banter with DeeZees on claiming wolf
D5 more rebuttals towards santy
D5 recap of Day votes: Chelsea on vibe they would flip wolf, Ender SR, Ran out of sheeping Porscha, Ender on reading role power claim as BS
D5 feels good about DeeZees (on account of what?), SRead Santy and Nutella
D5 rather at peace with being flipped by everyone (santy, Seanzie) sussing them
D6? nutella’s
D6? interaction with Porscha takes a bit of a dive
D6 post about focusing on lynching wolves and waiting for purge. Puts Schiavetto in a wolfcamp, but would rather lynch Nutella or pyxxy
D6 defends themselves against being mislynched; later notes difference of caring about game (in relation to “betrayal mash” meta)
D6 posts on hunting one wolf at a time
D6 laughs at Hally wolfreading their entire “erroneous” track record
D6 self-votes; then DeeZees’ votes
D6 first real take on DeeZees
D6 kinda votes Schiavetto just by going along with Jack
D6 again self-votes and asks to be cleared
D6 votes Porscha?!?!?
D6 gets a town read from DeeZees, jokecalls him “the only one who gets me”

Lol, reading now in full, I can see why they'd think of me pocketing, we seem such kindred spirits in the game disengagement and defensiveness and pleads to not be wasted on a mislynch. With the major difference that, y'kno, I didn't makes 300 posts nonetheless. And that they're not into ISO's, sadge. </3

Statistics of how their primary suspects flipped is not great, but they also claim it's in their town nature to do so. I couldn't say, being the first time I play with them. Nor have I read too many voices confirming this is indeed towneon consistent.

A lot of tense interactions and rebuttals with now-confirmed villagers and NPCs. Said confirmed villagers and NPCs perhaps missed a window and should have actually cleaned Neon, if they distrusted their style, voting, defensiveness etc. that much, but spilled milk under the bridge, I suppose.

Neon repeatedly self-voting in order to accomplish that (not prolonging the tensions and uncertainty and leading into LyLos with that) gives me a town vibe.

My fears lie in their lack of interactions with several players still alive, notably DeeZees (took 4 cycles to notice him, then townread him for no noticeable reason, then voted him at a later stage, then bonded again), Wilgy, plus nothing on ilario whatsoever?!. Too unfamiliar to tell if such things were genuine blindspots and cannot make a reasoned projection.

Spats with both IAWY and Hally I would lean as not happening between wolves.

Hardtowning Porscha this much is probably not the worthy wolf gamble I'd imagine, if either were to flip wolf - also clueless if one would pocket the other so strongly. Also also not sure why things got slightly sour last phase.

Don't understand either of their D8 votes, especially the current one on Wilgy.

Overall would gamble to think they will flip town, regardless of imperfections.

Eek... I hear a festive melody... No, no, don't skin me...

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:02 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:48 pm You are but a lamb. A stranger to defilement. Ignorant to your own ignorance.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:04 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:02 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:09 am Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?

I interpret the words of the fingers. The fingers tremble. Let their wisdom wash over you.

No incentive to play a 40-player, 24-day prelude to proper mafia.

You signed up for the game knowing what you were getting into, why choose to be a player in a game that you knew would take almost a whole month in order to actually get going?

Why didn’t you step up after the first purge like everybody else did?

Why not? Play how I want. Does it further your cause in any way to lecture me right now?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:17 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:19 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:13 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:03 am nobody should be town reading that wall

why?

why would you?

it’s a ton of information instead of analysis and the analysis that’s there is a lot of rehashing of what other’s have already said. there’s nothing that’s really interesting or difficult for a wolf to post. generally, talking about interactions and spew is the easiest thing for a wolf to do because they can just say things that are true most of the time.

and more obviously, one wall of solving the entire game as soon as his NPC cover was blown and he can’t skate by anymore is not villagery

I’ll add too, that it’s one thing to gather the info in one place and have the data available to see. It is nice to have it together, I appreciate that as a reference

But no conclusions that are drawn are followed up with, the info is presented, maybe a takeaway or two is given, but there’s nothing done with it. It’s like the expectation is “here’s a wall, my work here is done” “but you didn’t nothing” “townread plz”

And Vivax specifically has been gone for at least an IRL week if not more, this is easily work that could’ve been done multiple day phases ago and had a bigger impact when it was immediately relevant. As it stands now, like you said it doesn’t provide anything new. It looks like meaningful content, and it would’ve been earlier, but it really isn’t much at this point

Nowhere did I express the expectation that I want to be townread, that’s your projection. And conclusions are there, you just downplayed or scrolled past them. This is my analysis MO pretty much always.

Vivax is the most tangible performance compared to Schiavetto’s to look into at any point, even though I touched upon the Schiavetto lynch as well.

Doing nothing would have gotten me turbo’d. Doing this is still on track to get me turbo’d. Message received on my end of having wasted my time. Question remains if you’re willing to waste a lynch. Two wolves will certainly not mind.

Ahhh, so many thoughts where do I start

I am very aware of my ignorance thank you, which is why I actively ask questions to illuminate the path forward

Taking it as a “lecture” and being insulted by the question furthers nobody’s cause. Yes you can play however you want, but the consequences of that play are yours, and while everybody else tried to play, you waited until the last possible second and you’re only giving a modicum of effort now that you’re forced to

Why post it if the goal wasn’t to get townread for it? You contradict your own point by complaining that you’re still on-track to be turbo’ed even afterward. Are you really trying to imply that you posted it just to post and you care so little for the game that yojre okay with dying?

How about instead of making self-righteous threats about your vote being a mischop, you actually take this information you’ve compiled and put it into action and prove that you’re town

Wasn’t forced to work on and start Day 8 with an analysis, am not forced to do anything further. Was of my own choice to actually play, now that game is playable and a 7v2 is advantageous not to waste with my conduit. Was a bit perceptive to Schiavetto having proven a wolf with same conduit I applied, sure.

Goal of the post was to hunt wolves. Townreads on myself are for others to ponder.

Nothing is a threat, I’m alerting to the peril of making a low hanging fruit or principled mislynch out of me, whatever your personal discontent. And since you (and Hally) started from the viewpoint of “why and how did I sign up at all if I didn’t want to play”, don’t spin it on me acting self-righteous. Accept the mystery.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:03 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:55 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:44 pm Rico, now that you can reply in not-full RP, why did you throw your vote onto Nanook of all players yesterphase?

Ohh, and... One more thing, only for you...

Didn’t put thought into any votes.

But you put so much thought into everybody else’s, got it

Everybody else, in your own words, made an effort, so yeah, there’s value in reading it and analysing it.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:44 pm Rico, now that you can reply in not-full RP, why did you throw your vote onto Nanook of all players yesterphase?

Ohh, and... One more thing, only for you...

Didn’t put thought into any votes.

You are but a lamb. A stranger to defilement. Ignorant to your own ignorance.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:04 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:02 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:09 am Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?

I interpret the words of the fingers. The fingers tremble. Let their wisdom wash over you.

No incentive to play a 40-player, 24-day prelude to proper mafia.

You signed up for the game knowing what you were getting into, why choose to be a player in a game that you knew would take almost a whole month in order to actually get going?

Why didn’t you step up after the first purge like everybody else did?

Why not? Play how I want. Does it further your cause in any way to lecture me right now?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:17 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:19 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:13 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:03 am nobody should be town reading that wall

why?

why would you?

it’s a ton of information instead of analysis and the analysis that’s there is a lot of rehashing of what other’s have already said. there’s nothing that’s really interesting or difficult for a wolf to post. generally, talking about interactions and spew is the easiest thing for a wolf to do because they can just say things that are true most of the time.

and more obviously, one wall of solving the entire game as soon as his NPC cover was blown and he can’t skate by anymore is not villagery

I’ll add too, that it’s one thing to gather the info in one place and have the data available to see. It is nice to have it together, I appreciate that as a reference

But no conclusions that are drawn are followed up with, the info is presented, maybe a takeaway or two is given, but there’s nothing done with it. It’s like the expectation is “here’s a wall, my work here is done” “but you didn’t nothing” “townread plz”

And Vivax specifically has been gone for at least an IRL week if not more, this is easily work that could’ve been done multiple day phases ago and had a bigger impact when it was immediately relevant. As it stands now, like you said it doesn’t provide anything new. It looks like meaningful content, and it would’ve been earlier, but it really isn’t much at this point

Nowhere did I express the expectation that I want to be townread, that’s your projection. And conclusions are there, you just downplayed or scrolled past them. This is my analysis MO pretty much always.

Vivax is the most tangible performance compared to Schiavetto’s to look into at any point, even though I touched upon the Schiavetto lynch as well.

Doing nothing would have gotten me turbo’d. Doing this is still on track to get me turbo’d. Message received on my end of having wasted my time. Question remains if you’re willing to waste a lynch. Two wolves will certainly not mind.

O celestial globe, transmit to prosperity. The wisdom of the moon and stars.

I think EoD was extended another day.

I've offered content, so kindly drop the "virtually zero" and just look into it or ask away anything else.

I would lynch to clear DeeZees or IAWY, based on the shady timing their D5 votes had in facilitating lifelines to Vivax. No bearing still on players who voted outliers and that pool is bigger either way (Neon, Porscha, Hally even).

Don't think EoD will reach ties, but just in case, I won't self pres on a wagon I don't trust the outcome (and right now, far from it being Wilgy for me), you can clean me thus, but you will reach mylo next phase 100%. Same outcome with any other mislynch toDay, of course, but town can at least try better than "what if the whole wolfteam just derped Lovecraft and Taylor Swift".

Spoken echoes linger here. Shall I share them with you?

Day 5 vote progression




Of note

#5831 early statement from Hally on Schiavetto being lynch or purge material
#5940 Santy first to initiate Vivax sus
#5926 Hally bit ha'ha' about wanting a Schia/falcon/neon trio to just burn, initiates falcon wagon
#5941-5943 enter DeeZees, claims being player
5984 Michelle ping on Vivax weakgaming, second consistent read thus far
#6062 DeeZees talk with Michelle on previous Day votes; nothing concret or forward pushing
6189 Santy pokes Vivax [w] for reads
---- #6194 Vivax [w] answers that he’s autopiloting Schiavetto
#6216 IAWY pretty analytical about Schiavetto wagon
---- #6227 IAWY brings up Vivax when asking Jack on reads
#6472 Vivax re-appears with total shitpost on vote strategy
--- Michelle pinged, re-affirms Vivax sus
--- #6483 DeeZees re-enters, just wants a vote count
#6581 Vivax simple banter about Schiavetto’s 5 posts of the day
#6622 Vivax seems resigned with being main wagoned
6686 Santy decries having been only Vivax voter left, which basically reignites the wagon from scratch, Wilgy jumps right away
#6691 Vivax openly sheeps DeeZees and wants to push Jack mislynch clear ahead
#6728 Hally re-appears, states that has not read, doesn’t get how vivax/jack became wagons
6753 Schiavetto comes in and does nothing lmao (there was a three-way tie!!)
#6767 Hally admin-punches a post (past Day shutdown) expressing further curiosity on Vivax wagon and not having strong reads

Of further note

Apart from DeeZees, Jack wagon had town and Vivax. Still, DeeZees' vote created a two-vote distance from Vivax and Vivax did pushed it to three-votes.

Apart from Hally and IAWY, Falcon wagon, until its final decrease, was pushed by town and NPCs. Vivax jumped, then considered it not advantageous. Falcon wagon had dwindled down to 2 until IAWY pushed it back forward and Lumi [NPC] created a momentary tie. No reaction from others, town or otherwise, to this late avenue, at that EoD final stage.

At the first peak of Vivax being lead lynch - a point at which I even noted that Vivax seemed resigned with this fate - it was all town push (Santy, Seanzie, nutella), apart from DrWilgy.

SO

Wolves had a pretty shitty D5 EoD. Vivax wagon went up and down in two or three waves and he did himself in with every instance of (shit)posting. Had a stronger wolf impression on him from yesterday's reads, but apart from openly searching for power roles and some open feuding (DeeZees, Ender), had an altogether fringe profile. So that makes two looney wolves, together with Schiavetto. With this remaining field, gut tells me remaining wolves are probably more in tune, unless we're talking someone inconclusive like DeeZees or enigmatic like ilario.

Furthermore, I pity the wolf team that had Schiavetto not even attempt to influence a three-way tie wagon that could have helped Vivax. That's quite Vompatti levels of de-sync.

Still torn on DeeZees. His D5 (non-)participation softens my view that he could have finally pursued the Vivax lynch when it matters, because he was totally off-grid and unattentive to major threads. Nevertheless, his Jack vote did create a counter-wagon lead and Vivax was quick to try to push it clear, openly sheeping even.

I would still label Wilgy as incompatible with being wolfmates with Vivax and making his wagon considerably worse in several instances.

Alternatively, someone I felt good about overall - IOAY - looks likes crap EoD, by moving off Vivax.

SO SO

Where the hell are them wolves?

All wagons were strongly pushed by town and there is little evidence of attempts to assist Vivax out of the lynch, unless it was DeeZees creating distance on Jack or IAWY risking it and bringing down the wagon, closer to the alternative ones.

If not, wolf team is a complete scatter.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:26 am solving based solely on spew and interactions while making no effort to read people based on holistic posting is a classic wolf move

faking holistic reads is hard, talking about spew and interactions is easy

Why shut your doors to me? Am I barred from donning the crown of stone?

I'll shed no tears to you finding out what a "classic wolf" I am, but if you prefer the 4v2 stress next Day over the current 6v2 cushion, proceed at will.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:31 am true, i liked the part where he showed me voting both wolves.

any idea on who his teammate would be? any lock towns u have?

I extrapolated no such read on you off of that vote tally statistic, but thanks for skipping the read anyhow.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:09 am Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?

I interpret the words of the fingers. The fingers tremble. Let their wisdom wash over you.

No incentive to play a 40-player, 24-day prelude to proper mafia.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:11 am [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Are all you the same?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:28 pm was a pleasure playing with you again michelle

[VOTE: ricochet] aubergine

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:22 pm Schia was obvious mafia for so long and the fact that it took two days for anybody to even consider voting there despite multiple people acknowledging it is maddening, but they're gone now and today isn't a waste of a day

anyways

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine @Ricochet You've got some major explaining to do mister RP'ing sir

I'm taking Ilario's uncc'ed claim as a lockclear in this worldstate, so @ilario get ready for the responsibility to lead town that just fell on your shoulders

What on earth? I do not wish to cause anyone harm...

I offer you an accord.

=== Wagons with wolves ===
Day 1

Golden [NPC]: Ender [NPC], Dizzy [TOWN], Creature [NPC], Rondo [NPC], DeeZees, lucy [NPC], Vivax [WOLF], Wilgy, G-Man [NPC]

Jack [NPC]: Schiavetto [WOLF]

Day 2
Santygrass [TOWN}: Guillotine [NPC], Vivax [WOLF], pyxxy [NPC], Ender [NPC], DeeZees, Creature [NPC]

Schiavetto no vote

Day 3
DrWilgy: Nutella [TOWN], Ender [NPC], Vivax [WOLF], Jack [NPC], ilario, SilverKeith [NPC]

Schiavetto no vote

Day 4
lilypetal [TOWN]: santy [TOWN], Nutella [TOWN], Michelle [TOWN], DeeZees, Hally

ender [TOWN}, Neon, ilario, Vivax [WOLF]

Schiavetto no vote

Day 5
Vivax [WOLF]: santy [TOWN], DrWilgy, Seanzie [TOWN], Michelle [TOWN], Lumi [NPC]
Jack [NPC]: pyxxy [NPC], Nutella [TOWN], DeeZees, Vivax [WOLF]

Schiavetto nothing

Day 6

Schiavetto nothing

Day 7
Schiavetto: Lumi [NPC], DeeZees, DrWilgy, Hally, Inawordyes

(Michelle and ilario on Neon)
(Neon on Porscha)
(Porscha on Michelle)

=== Schiavetto interactions ===
- sabi [NPC]: Walrus fluff
- Dizzy [Town]: Profile fluff
- Opinion on Chelsie wagon [NPC], based on meta; casual follow-up to Nutella [TOWN]
- Something about Aro [NPC]
- sheeps Dizzy [TOWN] with Jack vote [NPC]
- banter answer to tutuu ping [NPC]
- short talk to a Rondo poke [NPC]
- fluff answer to Ranmilia poke [NPC]

[Haikus / Eliade’s / Emma Roberts / songs Day 4 onwards]

===========================

DeeZees - Vivax
- nothing on Vivax until Day 3
- argues Golden wagon had wolves (true on Vivax)
- builds a vote from above
o Vivax irked right away, cooks a bizarre OMGUS spin, DeeZees shrugs it with a lmao
- strengthens Vivax push based on overblown reaction
- [switches to Ender?!]
o Switches Golden wagon angle towards Ender being wolf
- mentions early push for Vivax
- nothing else for two (?) more Days
- [Day 6?]
- reaffirms that his early Vivax push makes him town clear

Vivax – DeeZees
- Day 2 vote, confusing reasoning or fluff
- Day 3 irk backlash to DeeZees searching Golden wagon for wolves
- Day 5 vote on DeeZees
- Sheeps DeeZee vote on Jack

DeeZees – Schiavetto
- sheeps Lumi on Schiavetto chop case
- rather confusing second stance on Schiavetto chop (8309)

First impression was to clear him based on early, straight Vivax hunt and that bizarre acid rebuttal received from Vivax (which warranted little aggro-ing around that timing, if a bus strategy), mbut it’s not solid stuff once he stepped off and his later claims that all of that validates him as town is weaksauce. Didn’t catch any evidence of him returning to lynch Vivax on the Day he was slain – in fact, landed on the counterwagon.

With Schiavetto, I’m leaning on the belief that teammates would have at least tried to steer the lynch away in order to win an extra Day (potentially even a townlynch), still DeeZees’s vote was fourth in order, which puts to no rest the notion that he might/could have jumped on the wave to dispose of an unsolvable, un-savable teammate.

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DrWilgy – Vivax

- Day 3 light vote talk (initiated by Vivax)
- Day 4 names Vivax on list of players hard to grasp
o Further talk on falcon
- Casts Vivax in NPC tier
o Insists Vivax lynch would hit a simple, contrarian NPC
o Doesn’t know what to make of DeeZees and Vivax “tension”
- Day 5 still ponders Vivax among NPCs and how to deal with them
- votes Vivax, despite not knowing “how to feel on that”
o finds Vivax best of three lead wagons
o in reply to Nutella, takes stance that game is still in crapshoot mode, including taking the change on Vivax lynch
- somehow arrives at conclusion that Vivax has to be wolf, if not NPC
- returns to vote Vivax when Santy signals being lone wagoner
[slightly not sure, but I think from this point on, every Vivax mention is post-lynch, as Wilgy goes into ISO’ing for W/W interactions]

Vivax – Wilgy

- D3 reads Wilgy off-meta for no usual antics
- when irked by DeeZees, proposes Wilgy / Ran wagon
- would have followed Nutella on a Wilgy vote?
- Wilgy “sneakiest vibes”
- D4 pings Wilgy with a request for gamestate read

DrWilgy – Schiavetto

- D4(?) early resolve to yeet Schia if they hold on to the 5-post effort
- D5 reads Schia wolf
- D5 through D7 many instances of sticking to the same vibe that Schia / other minposters are wolf

I’m reading the Vivax interaction as coming from a solo mindset. Furthermore, little reason to reignite Vivax wagon, if it went down to one voter at a certain point. Vivax trying to deflect a D3 wagon onto Wilgy/Ran alternative also doesn’t seem like a sound choice, if Wilgy would be co-wolf.

Schiavetto push could have been prepped way in advance, if disgruntled with having such a liable teammate, but gonna roll with simple scenario and find that less likely.

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Ilario – Vivax

- D5(?) wants to sheep a player who helped lynch Vivax
- D7 read on DeeZees potentially bussing Vivax

Vivax – ilario

- D3 answers Santy ask for read on ilario, deems votable
o Reiterates later that either Ilario or Rico vote is fine
- D5 reads Santy vote on ilario “bad”

Ilario – Schiavetto

- D5(?) simple comment on Schiavetto’s funny post antics, leans on NPC?

+ D6 claim of being delete

Near lack of interaction on ilario’s part is not ideal, but can deem it a potential lack of engagement or a blindspot. The D5 sheep reaction is stinky, but probably not the worst ping overall to warrant consideration. From a personal perspective, if Vivax was so intent to lead the field into wasting a bullet on me, I can see the same mindset towards ilario, hence not a W/W positioning.

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Hally – Vivax

- D3 some kind of conversation about other players? (rabbit / avi?)
- Gets asked by Vivax why vote on Lily, followed by countering with a question on why he asked they asked that
- D4(?) Asks Vivax, among others, to get off Ender wagon
- D4 states that Vivax’s takes are far off theirs
- D5 shook at Vivax and Jack wagon happening
- D6 post-lynch stance “sheep whoever lynched Vivax”
o explains their Vivax stances wrt Wilgy’s ISO their interactions: most significantly, picked up on Vivax asking them to reason their votes, but without caring for answers + they partly would have wanted to vote Vivax D5 (got tunnel vision on neon instead?)
- D6 unsure how D5 EoD played out: reads into DeeZees – Vivax D3 interaction
o Focuses on falcon?
o Furthermore, reads Vivax wagon as villagery, hence no / low buss
o Later talks about Vivax – Neon interaction seems W/W

Vivax – Hally

- D2 talk with Hally about rising
- Agrees with Guillotine about a Hally post on Ender
- D3 banter talk wrt some lolpost from Hally
o Reads Hally NPC
- Talk about Lily vote
o Banter rebuttal about “ulterior motives” for asking Hally insight

Hally – Schiavetto

- D5 debates whether to lynch Schiavetto or let a purge clear things up
o Further reads them wolf if not NPC
o Decides on preferring to wait for purge clarity
- D6 debates with IAWY on Schiavetto being a confirmed player
- Stated they’re not voting Schiavetto regardless, reads them likely NPC
- Last vote on Schiavetto, once it seems to “autopilot” towards the lynch
- Seems to soften take on Schiavetto being wolf
o Still goes back and forth on lynching or letting the purge resolve
o Extensive debate on Schia lynch gamble; says Schiavetto flip would give no info
o [more]
- Mentions being amused if Schia will flip wolf

By far the most considerable amount of takes on Schiavetto, contrasted by highly low / light / lax takes on Vivax through and through. Fighting this active for a Day postponement on Schiavetto’s lynch would be a big and not-fully-rewarding move, but it’s also not out of the question as long as the NPC/D7 purge factor can be weaved into crafting a reasoning. Vivax ISO could also fit into a “wolf minding their own business” mindset. I cannot in earn say I am convinced by either their “wish to have wagoned Vivax after all” stance, nor their Schiavetto lynch (initial) opposition being on pure mechanical principle.

Vivax also feathery on ever bringing up / interacting heavily with Hally.

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IAWY – Vivax

- D3 reads into group of common wagoners, including Vivax, finds “clear pattern of buddying up”
o Prods Vivax for reads
- Reads Vivax’s take on them as “disingenuous” spotlight shine
- D5 asks Vivax why Porscha is a townlock
- Develops read into wolf among Jack/Vivax/Falcon
- Seems focused on Jack, but also notes that their Vivax vote (creating a tie) drew a lot of agitation
- D6 rebuttal towards Seanzie in regards to their Vivax vote
o [extensive stuff, which I’ll place on a backlog if I ever need to reconsider / read thoroughly. Not inclined / no time rn]

IAWY – Schiavetto

- D5 reads that Schiavetto’s 5-post antic is an out
o Further develop read into Schiavetto being a wolf aware of not making moves
- heavier push for Schiavetto wagon to remain in contention
- D6 in talks with Seanzie, reads Schiavetto lockwolf, active plead to solve with lynch
- [more wordy stuff etc.]

I admit I bailed on a thorough ISO once the CTRL+F gave me two- or even three-digit results, but I’m inclined to find two unlikely W/W interactions in: a) needing to call out / build a sus on Vivax thumbs upping his involvement/game; b) adding to the Vivax bonfire by tying it with a non-wolf player (Jack) they already had shade or potential vote-fuel on.

Schiavetto stance simply a good read or a very hard and textbooky bus (to which, again, I’d bank on wolves not giving up completely on the opportunity to affect town numbers above all, in which case a wolfmate giving so much written, hard to retract stance to bus, is less ideal positioning).

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Neon – Vivax

- D3 talks on a fake claim
- D6 retroactive look at Hally – Vivax, stating it would be hilarious for it to be W/W

Vivax – Neon

- D3 reads Neon likely played, tentative town
- Focuses extensively on a Neon-Ender claimgame
o Short openness to yeet Neon, but not really
o Leans on Neon being NPC
- D4 In a reply to Jack, reads Neon openwolfing and yeetable tho not on that Day

Neon – Schia

- D7(?) votes Schiavetto at a certain point (vote not registered in VC?), in reply to a IAWY – Jack conversation

Complete lack of interactions makes this analysis angle non-viable. Slight inclination to treat Vivax’s takes on Neon as weak interest to make a read on someone from the field, not to cast a profile on a wolfmate – hence not W/W indicative. Vivax also had a short opening to vote Neon, if he would have had interest to try and flip a potential town role power, but resorted D3 to hounding minposters instead (me / ilario).

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Porscha – Vivax

- D3 talk about why Marmot exited the game
- asks cfd(?) why (they voted?) vivax
- D4 fluff chat with Vivax
- Talk with Neon about Vivax’s profile of them as role power
- D6 refuses to ISO Vivax

Vivax – Porscha

- D3 reads possible NPC, town if otherwise
- D4 wants Porscha to offer reads on yeet options (this being based off Santy’s list)

Porscha – Schiavetto

- D7(?) willing to vote off Schiavetto, despite same result not having paid off in a different game; see Wilgy as wolf skater, instead
- Last vote on Schiavetto, at a point of just adding to the lynch

Sigh, another void of interactions. Bit weird that post-lynch disengagement towards Vivax flip extended to refusing to analyze his posts. Invoked meta reservations on Schia flipping wolf, nothing to read or clear off the final vote, when it was all concluded.

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SO

One can perhaps profile a wolf out of these interactions, but likely not both, given that a third of the field has not properly interacted or taken strong stances of either wolf.

It would Vivax was overall not inclined to cast shade on Schiavetto; if that sentiment extended to the rest of the team, I think that would speak well of Wilgy (built a stinkeye on him, plus almost voted him dead), ilario (had some incentive to wagon him based on air) and maybe Neon (focused a lot on the roleclaim game, to the point of wanting to flip it). Alternatively, if that sentiment was shared by teammates, then I don’t see a world in which IAWY shaded Vivax that much and crafted the entire textbook of bringing down Schiavetto.
The above angle would almost clear DeeZees as well, if not for that interaction having been so spontaneous and bizzare, to the point of seeming forced – and DeeZees also doing a poor job in keeping heat and intent on the Vivax, even counter-wagoning it on the Day it mattered.

Three players objected on principle to the Schia lynch, a strategy of no long-term rewards in retrospect, hence one I cannot fathom both remaining wolfmates having decided to work on. Therefore this group has maybe one wolf or maybe is town entirely. As mentioned, either tone or tinfoil makes me see Hally worst, with perhaps Porscha second by appealing to outside meta and acting (or choosing to feign) indecisive.

Town
Wilgy
IAWY
Ilario

Lean
Neon

No real idea / No pass
Porscha

Don’t buy it
Hally
DeeZees

[VOTE: DeeZees] aubergine

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:05 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:03 pm I-I must apologise. I'm afraid I've very little to offer.

Hi Rico!

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:59 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:50 pm Come out from whence ye hide. There are books and light aplenty. Dither not; come out say I! Or will ye be gravestones?

What thoust can neer descry, matters not when in deepest shadow is the sonorous illuminated most vividly

From whence does thoust hold court in the beholden eye of this spider’s web?

Ah, you came, how delightful! Indeed, I thought I might find you here.

In truth I quiver, such is his frightful repute. But! The fear simply assures me the ordeal is worth undertaking!

Now, be sure to get a good vantage, my friend. I do hereby vow to unflinchingly brave this ordeal.

[VOTE: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME] aubergine

I-I must apologise. I'm afraid I've very little to offer.

Come out from whence ye hide. There are books and light aplenty. Dither not; come out say I! Or will ye be gravestones?

I'm stuck here. A fledgling sorcerer, with little chance of acquiring a key.

Why? Why, o guidance of grace, will this door not open?

I will never give this up. Not to your kind.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

There's a myriad of battle arts in these lands that I've yet to discover.

I beg you, grant me a seat at the table of the dynasty.

Ahh, your worship, allow me to be of use. Other than the puppets, there are some very fine things up here.

This weasel was... was always looking down on me. He got what he bloody deserved, thanks to you. I tell you though, what goes around comes around. He had an ugly heart, an uglier countenance, and me the ugliest of ends, eh. He he he he he...Now, I supposed I'm free. I can do whatever takes my fancy...

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

What right does anyone have to object?

Please, take my grapes.

I'm looking for a little something, here in the castle. When I'm not hotfooting it from the troops, that is.

This brings us a full step closer. The bodies can be admitted to the academy. If only I could undo these wretched shackles...

Perfect bloody timing, actually. I got crab, cooked up fresh.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:55 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:04 pm It hit me like a bolt from the blue... That my former thoughts were simple naiveté.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Two jesters tussling in the courtroom will bring nothing but amusement to the masses and a bloody nose to themselves.

[VOTE: ricochet] aubergine

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:26 pm [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Really enjoying my newfound bloodshot eyes

Agh! Ah, why on earth? I do not wish to cause anyone harm.

It hit me like a bolt from the blue... That my former thoughts were simple naiveté.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Very well, let us both learn together. Heresy is not native to the world; it is but a contrivance. All things can be conjoined.

The road is yet long. A God not easily felled.

Show me the path, o gentle lights...

There are four demigods yet to be located.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:31 pm [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Ngh! What are you trying to achieve? Cease that!

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:26 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:23 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:21 pm oh posting that vc let me know nook posted more

ok fine hes probably v the nutella votepost looks dece

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Do you even comprehend the gravity of this choice?

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Ok breaking character for the first time to object to rabbit voting them is incredibly sus

Ugh! What's the matter with you? You trying to get revenge?

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:21 pm oh posting that vc let me know nook posted more

ok fine hes probably v the nutella votepost looks dece

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Do you even comprehend the gravity of this choice?

Perhaps, you'd be interested in a little scheme of mine? It will produce the finest of puppets. Which I aspire to cherish with these very hands.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

VC? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, what do you make of it? What's happened to this village? I witnessed a sight much the same, in my infancy. The oppression of the weak. Murder and pillage unchecked. A waking nightmare, made by men.

It's scary, you know. Having your arms cut off. Or legs. Or your head. I want to be like everyone else, but I'm just too scared. I'm nothing but a craven.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:41 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:37 am So, here I am, still quietly plying my trade, on this spot. Perhaps you'd like a display? These bones are old, but still able.

What's your opinion about the NKs and today's posts?

More... I am not sated... Feed me more... Death.

So, here I am, still quietly plying my trade, on this spot. Perhaps you'd like a display? These bones are old, but still able.

Oh, again we cross paths. What business hast thou here? I have no memory of inking thee an invitation.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

guillotine (5): Seanzie (5), santygrass (18), Neon, Jack, vivax
michelle (4): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (7), hollowkatt (6), Ranmilia (24), Chelsea (4)
santygrass (3): Guillotine (26), pyxxy (7), DeeZees
scotty (3): EnderWiggin (10), Michelle, Dizzy
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (18), ilario (5)
marmot (2): Marmot (8), Sprityo
~prince j~ (1): iaafr (65)
iaafr (1): Lilypetal (13)
manny (1): Manny (15)
enderwiggin (1): nutella (8)
Sloonei (1): Ricochet (...)

Please, help me. I'm of noble blood.
If those hideous mongrels eat me, I'll be forever marred...