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- Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:30 pm
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
Anyway, good night.
6 votes on JJJ cannot be overturned.
GG believers in your certain wolf reads
or
GG wolves, it's not as if you don't deserve it.
It's all the same.
6 votes on JJJ cannot be overturned.
GG believers in your certain wolf reads
or
GG wolves, it's not as if you don't deserve it.
It's all the same.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:16 pm
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I swear I will make a life goal out of finding a single enjoyable thing about playing with falcon and his fuck-all-ism.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:15 pm
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20th Century Motobot
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:14 pm
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Oh yay the wolves have arrived to seal it.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:29 pm
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Speaking in near-certainties doesn't help me in the slightest in this world.
You present a case devoid of taking in account any plausibility that JJJ's read could have been corrupted or simply not work (ninja killer).
The blame on "dead townies" doesn't help in a gamestate in which we've had nothing but dead townies.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:19 pm
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Not what I meant.Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:14 pmIf JJJ and Zenon are wolves , and we lynch moto and moto flips town just like meatbabay , then town got fooled twice the exact same way.
JJJ stated "mech outed wolf" and the majority trusted that to happen. It didn't.
Zenon stated "mech outed wolf".
The claims are the same. How do we crack them?
As for going the "fool me twice" route, the gambit is entirely a possible world. A more extreme one, though. How do we go for testing this compared to testing yet another mech-out-wolf thing?
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:13 pm
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It's such a whirpool of WIFOM it's downright nauseating.
A "kill JJJ nao" believer needs to shed light on what did JJJ try to achieve by duping us yesterDay.
A "don't trust Zenon" believer needs to give a take on Zenon's silencing D3.
A "kill JJJ nao" believer needs to shed light on what did JJJ try to achieve by duping us yesterDay.
A "don't trust Zenon" believer needs to give a take on Zenon's silencing D3.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:11 pm
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- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:08 pm
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- Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:31 pm
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Outside any claim game, I would probably urge to avoid this mindset against a kid with little to no active engagement with the game.
Elim him cuz POE, sure.
Confident none of it is done in bad faith.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:53 pm
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so yeah, I think town is likely fucked on votes alone
four wolves can pile and clinch it (with, maybe even w/o hunger add-on)
if moto is wolf and non-performing and loose with voting, that might hamper them a bit, so just a three-wolf pile
that still means all five active town (assuming Martin town as the sidelined voter) need to unite on a wagon
if moto is on town side, we're never achieving that, lol
four wolves can pile and clinch it (with, maybe even w/o hunger add-on)
if moto is wolf and non-performing and loose with voting, that might hamper them a bit, so just a three-wolf pile
that still means all five active town (assuming Martin town as the sidelined voter) need to unite on a wagon
if moto is on town side, we're never achieving that, lol
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:48 pm
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
More paranoia:
if JJJ is town, one vote is required to gamble with a tie, two votes to sink him
assuming Belzy and Seanzie are wolves, the above applies
if one or neither are, the odds are even worse
bottom line, a mislynch is entirely within range to happen, even at the very last minute
so much for trusting anything, anyone
if JJJ is town, one vote is required to gamble with a tie, two votes to sink him
assuming Belzy and Seanzie are wolves, the above applies
if one or neither are, the odds are even worse
bottom line, a mislynch is entirely within range to happen, even at the very last minute
so much for trusting anything, anyone
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:45 pm
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Big paragraph is for me the exact WIFOM wormhole we're dealing him. Exactly cuz the claims are identical (well, they are, now that JJJ clarified yesterday's take).Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:26 pm Like if jjj is wolf what numbers advantage do they even get pulling that gambit *yesterday*? Knowing that meatbaby flips town. I can clearly see the motive behind a wolf neon going after a town moto here though, with how close we are in numbers. But i cant explicitly find a reason to say they are entirely unpaired, because brad's theory is possible too. This is gonna sound dumb cuz duh, but the wolves have more info than what has been revealed in thread I think, so I think they are pulling a gambit here to try and win. Which leads me back to thinking moto is scapegoat. So in a best world scenario (I think?): moto and jjj are town, zenon wolf. If either go over, solid chance we just lose today. Worst case scenario (I think?): jjj and zenon are wolf together and actually just fake claimed their way to a win
In both scenarios i think moto is likely town, so wagons at end of day should probably be between jjj and zenon. Unless anyone wants to correct me.
I would lean into Zenon's silenced D3 being a town sign for her. There has been no claim, so the tool is likely a wolf tool.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:41 pm
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I didn't mean to shade, but honestly Seanzie is putting so little effort, his statement felt off, given that yesterDay he was also "welp we have wolf vote bye bye".
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:40 pm
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Belzy's w/w angle is the most bonkers, because it'd require two phase worth of planning, silencing a teammate (zenon D3) and lucking on there not being an actual tracker/watcher ready to counter-claim and sink this on D3 already.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:59 pmWouldnt it just give us a better chance to flip in zenon/jjj? If belzy's w/w theory is correct then it's an auto miss. If between the 2 its 1 town 1 wolf then it's probably better to flip the one potentially framing moto no? Or are we getting boned on points here, cuz I'm not keeping track of that stuff
Also is there a hammer
Zenon being wolf vs Jay being town also requires the idea that she was perhaps silenced by teammates and came with this strategy toDay.
I think both moto and Jay are +2 in hunger, so far we have moto going down, unless more vote shenanigans.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:53 pm
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It's ok, I think you're in for a guaranteed satisfaction
either by successful mech
or by successful dupe move
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:52 pm
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Why did you blindly trust mech yesterDay?
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Why do you trust that JJJ's failed mech moment paints him wolf?
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Why do you trust that JJJ's failed mech moment paints him wolf?
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:21 am
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I don’t think motobot is connected (engaged) in doing anything in this internet-provided game of mafia. Least of all toDay, since he didn’t even post to sustain this vote.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:02 am
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Thanks for checking the game.
Will you not vote?
Will you not vote?
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:21 am
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I’m willing to flip the claim and get back for real to playing the video game some more.Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:20 amWell I mean I know I'm the role I claim with the results I claim so like yes it's a guarantee fmpov
But like are you willing to risk the game on trying to play "is Zenon lying?"
Wolves have all the reason to just slank and pile on a wagon.
GGs if you strategised and duped us with a carbon copy claim.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:46 am
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You call it a guarantee, even though your read could be just as corrupt as Jay’s has proven to be. Or the killer cannot be tracked. Or various other mech difficulties.
There is no objective guarantee with this.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:43 am
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- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:42 am
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We may not even have the votes right now to sink moto. He ain’t voting himself. Only Porscha and falcon haven’t voted.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:40 am
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It’s lylo if it’s 6 vs 4, moto flips town and mafia reaches parity with night kill.
Same if we flip you, just like you said, which is insane talk coming from town in this scenario.
It may also be gg if mafia has the mechanical votes.
Same if we flip you, just like you said, which is insane talk coming from town in this scenario.
It may also be gg if mafia has the mechanical votes.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:14 am
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[VOTE:
motobot] aubergine
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:13 am
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We can do anything, especially not attempt to solve the game.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:29 am
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I say we flip the moto read. That's my Occam take. If we lose, gg, congrats wolfs.
Zenon being town and asking to be flipped is a self-destructive town move or a wolf flaunt. Welcome to WIFOMville.
Zenon being town and asking to be flipped is a self-destructive town move or a wolf flaunt. Welcome to WIFOMville.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:25 am
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It's not necessarily the motivation tanking, it's the mech claim making players park a vote and bail on play for a second phase running.
Though the JJJ voters are the ones active and talking.
Zenon now wants to be flipped, but that's game-losing if she is indeed town, so what's the point of this request, if town?
motobot parked a vote, didn't even post.
Porscha is among the talkers, but seems to hold on to voting.
Falcon is bail on activity, either that's wolf leisure or, as I've said, I need a manual on how he can decide to play like this as town.
Though the JJJ voters are the ones active and talking.
Zenon now wants to be flipped, but that's game-losing if she is indeed town, so what's the point of this request, if town?
motobot parked a vote, didn't even post.
Porscha is among the talkers, but seems to hold on to voting.
Falcon is bail on activity, either that's wolf leisure or, as I've said, I need a manual on how he can decide to play like this as town.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:39 pm
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No/lo desire to talk is pretty derpressing.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:41 pm
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Yeah, my mind is cooked and so is the game, probably. We've reached a state in which we have to crack and/or pick between two identical claims. We've heard from JJJ, what do we think Zenon will say, besides "im telling you visit = death = gg wolf caught", and then "well heck i must have been redirected" if we reach D5 with a moto townflip. How do you deal with that?
Wish I wasn't town, lol. (recruit pls?)
If the world is truly town-watcher!JJJ and town-watcher!Zenon (in addition to a town-tracker!Vivax, who in theory could have also played a bigger role), then the mafia must have defence against being read/caught easily. In which case we can't trust in full their watch reads. The Occam thought is to say that JJJ and Zenon cannot both be town.
I'm still boggled that a wolf-JJJ wouldn't sweat out a two-vote wagon, 17 hours into a 48-hour phase, and resort to faking a claim to get out of it. But hey, reverse psych can go to such lenghts.
As we are now, a wolf-Zenon could certainly cook a fake claim, since both a mislynch on JJJ for discret or a mislynch on moto would benefit or even win them the game.
Will you die of poisoning, Seanzie? And if so, will you die toDay or toNight? We probably can't afford multiple night Deaths either.
I also forgot that JJJ is also at +2 in hunger votes. So if town, it's a near mechanical scenario of a 4-mafia team securing the votes to not lose phase and game altogether.
Wish I wasn't town, lol. (recruit pls?)
If the world is truly town-watcher!JJJ and town-watcher!Zenon (in addition to a town-tracker!Vivax, who in theory could have also played a bigger role), then the mafia must have defence against being read/caught easily. In which case we can't trust in full their watch reads. The Occam thought is to say that JJJ and Zenon cannot both be town.
I'm still boggled that a wolf-JJJ wouldn't sweat out a two-vote wagon, 17 hours into a 48-hour phase, and resort to faking a claim to get out of it. But hey, reverse psych can go to such lenghts.
As we are now, a wolf-Zenon could certainly cook a fake claim, since both a mislynch on JJJ for discret or a mislynch on moto would benefit or even win them the game.
Will you die of poisoning, Seanzie? And if so, will you die toDay or toNight? We probably can't afford multiple night Deaths either.
I also forgot that JJJ is also at +2 in hunger votes. So if town, it's a near mechanical scenario of a 4-mafia team securing the votes to not lose phase and game altogether.
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
Everyone, please decide on this.Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:59 am Wait.
Let's assume meatbaby was indeed redirected to target tutuu.
Let's assume JJJ's ability did indeed every visit on tutuu.
But... tutuu was still killed.
And it wasn't meatbaby.
So you should have received a result of at least two visits. A killer and meatbaby with her veggies.
This results in your claim and now counter-claim being utter lies.
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That is so bastard of a redirect, I would attribute it a low chance of mechanical design.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:02 amI think it’d have to be the mafia swapping themselves with meatbaby while performing the kill. Could be other ways, I dunno. But that’s the one for which I have seen roles that fit.Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:59 am Wait.
Let's assume meatbaby was indeed redirected to target tutuu.
Let's assume JJJ's ability did indeed every visit on tutuu.
But... tutuu was still killed.
And it wasn't meatbaby.
So you should have received a result of at least two visits. A killer and meatbaby with her veggies.
This results in your claim and now counter-claim being utter lies.
A kill is a player submitting a kill i.e. targeting.
I'm closer to believing Epignosis would not alter such requirement.
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Second counterpoint would be that Epignosis is within reason a game host who can modify, alter etc. traditional roles.Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:00 amWasn't obvious for me (I don't do traditional, clear cut mafia terminology), which is why I asked you if you think there's any chance your read is wrong or corrupt.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:56 amI thought it was obvious. It’s what all watchers doRicochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:55 amWe are into an early phase situation of rage lynching you, because you couldn't articulate last Day that you can track every visit and that meatbaby's visit was the only one.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:53 am Blame me if you want, but “my role can be be redirected” is not part of my role card. ANY role can be redirected. If I see some visit a night kill I am going to vote for them every time. This is the improbable exception to a very basic rule.
Leading to Zenon being believed with this kind of clearer, more certain on paper mech read.
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Wasn't obvious for me (I don't do traditional, clear cut mafia terminology), which is why I asked you if you think there's any chance your read is wrong or corrupt.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:56 amI thought it was obvious. It’s what all watchers doRicochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:55 amWe are into an early phase situation of rage lynching you, because you couldn't articulate last Day that you can track every visit and that meatbaby's visit was the only one.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:53 am Blame me if you want, but “my role can be be redirected” is not part of my role card. ANY role can be redirected. If I see some visit a night kill I am going to vote for them every time. This is the improbable exception to a very basic rule.
Leading to Zenon being believed with this kind of clearer, more certain on paper mech read.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:59 am
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Wait.
Let's assume meatbaby was indeed redirected to target tutuu.
Let's assume JJJ's ability did indeed every visit on tutuu.
But... tutuu was still killed.
And it wasn't meatbaby.
So you should have received a result of at least two visits. A killer and meatbaby with her veggies.
This results in your claim and now counter-claim being utter lies.
Let's assume meatbaby was indeed redirected to target tutuu.
Let's assume JJJ's ability did indeed every visit on tutuu.
But... tutuu was still killed.
And it wasn't meatbaby.
So you should have received a result of at least two visits. A killer and meatbaby with her veggies.
This results in your claim and now counter-claim being utter lies.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:55 am
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We are into an early phase situation of rage lynching you, because you couldn't articulate last Day that you can track every visit and that meatbaby's visit was the only one.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:53 am Blame me if you want, but “my role can be be redirected” is not part of my role card. ANY role can be redirected. If I see some visit a night kill I am going to vote for them every time. This is the improbable exception to a very basic rule.
Leading to Zenon being believed with this kind of clearer, more certain on paper mech read.
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
JJJ's clarifications have brought this claim game to a total stalemate.
JJJ's and Zenon's claims are now fucking identical.
JJJ's and Zenon's claims are now fucking identical.
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Agree(d) with meatball's uninspired defence.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:49 amThere’s no reason to do that. I have a role and a night result. Any closed setup can potentially have redirection abilities, but meatbaby literally didn’t even deny it. Game is baked.Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:48 amFirst thought is not to be enamoured with you playing the "shenanigans" card on your read.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:43 am Hello. I did not lie. I was subjected to shenanigans. Welcome to closed role madness.
Folks aren’t going to believe me unfortunately, and I believe the game is at 6 vs. 4 (barring unseen independent activity). So we’re about to lose the game.
I’ll see if I can work a miracle, but it is a very bad time.
Why did you not, for the whole duration of Day 3, contemplate or made caveats that your read can be limited?
You are also at fault for not having clarified any of the above in your claim.
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
First thought is not to be enamoured with you playing the "shenanigans" card on your read.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:43 am Hello. I did not lie. I was subjected to shenanigans. Welcome to closed role madness.
Folks aren’t going to believe me unfortunately, and I believe the game is at 6 vs. 4 (barring unseen independent activity). So we’re about to lose the game.
I’ll see if I can work a miracle, but it is a very bad time.
Why did you not, for the whole duration of Day 3, contemplate or made caveats that your read can be limited?
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
Why do you project 4 baddies?
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:31 am
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Please compare
100% result that moto is bad
If this flips false, 100% certainty that Zenon wolf bullshiter.
VS
No clear result that meatbaby was the sole visitor (aka killer).
No clear result (or clarification) that JJJ could track every visit.
Meatbaby flipped town: no 100% certainy JJJ was bullshitter (and not blunderer).
Deduction:Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:24 pm
I'm quite literally a lookout yes lol my flavor is a pirate and I use my spyglass to see everyone who targeted the player the night I watch them
I fucked up thinking Tutuu would get killed N1 because I didn't understand how her claimed role worked so I watched her n1 there's no double targeting so I tried to watch her n2 but couldn't do I watched JJJ n2 no visits wish I had flipped those but oh well
Watched Rondo last night 1 visit moto
Rondo dead
GGs caught wolf
100% result that moto is bad
If this flips false, 100% certainty that Zenon wolf bullshiter.
VS
Deduction:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:18 pmI lied.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:06 pm Probably a good look for meatbaby too, even if they clearly had frustrations with tutuu
I have a 1-shot watcher ability, and I watched tutuu last night. meatbaby visited her.
[VOTE: die_meatbaby] aubergine
No clear result that meatbaby was the sole visitor (aka killer).
No clear result (or clarification) that JJJ could track every visit.
Meatbaby flipped town: no 100% certainy JJJ was bullshitter (and not blunderer).
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:27 am
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
I would go with Zenon, but with more certainty that he is either for sure right (and town) and moto, or for sure bullshitter (and mafia).Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:22 amNo, it does not make sense. You make a solid case why to not trust Zenon, and you wanna flip moto???Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:20 am Hmm.
Man, I may kinda want to flip moto toDay, lol.
Here’s why:
When asked for clarification, Zenon stated that her ability tracks every visit and that she got the result of only one visit. Therefore, this is a strong wording of a sure-read mafia kill than JJJ worded it.
So if moto flips town, Zenon is legit wolf duper.
That would give town the mentality to flip what they perceive sure wolf flip both toDay and next Day, if necessary.
Does that make sense?
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:21 am
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
Thank you Superman.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:13 amMy man I'm the only one at this rate that can help you actually win if you're town.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:20 am
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
Hmm.
Man, I may kinda want to flip moto toDay, lol.
Here’s why:
When asked for clarification, Zenon stated that her ability tracks every visit and that she got the result of only one visit. Therefore, this is a strong wording of a sure-read mafia kill than JJJ worded it.
So if moto flips town, Zenon is legit wolf duper.
That would give town the mentality to flip what they perceive sure wolf flip both toDay and next Day, if necessary.
Does that make sense?
Man, I may kinda want to flip moto toDay, lol.
Here’s why:
When asked for clarification, Zenon stated that her ability tracks every visit and that she got the result of only one visit. Therefore, this is a strong wording of a sure-read mafia kill than JJJ worded it.
So if moto flips town, Zenon is legit wolf duper.
That would give town the mentality to flip what they perceive sure wolf flip both toDay and next Day, if necessary.
Does that make sense?
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:09 am
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
I have to speak my mind that this has the potential to turn into a massive WIFOM wormhole.
I still don’t exactly townread you for shit, so how do I trust that you aren’t brewing this narrative.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:04 am
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
If we lynch JJJ and he is town, we’re left in lylo with flipping moto. If that also flips town, gg zenon.
- Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:02 am
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Re: Don't Starve Mafia [Day 4]
I don’t advocate to spare JJJ.Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:58 amJJJ being scum is the most rational and safest conclusion. Do you wanna keep alive a JJJ who fake claimed a red check, and has done only kill off townies so far? Keeping JJJ alive is the biggest mistake ever.Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:54 am“A fake red check is outing yourself as scum.”Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:46 amHow does me wanting to lynch JJJ first equals trusting Zenon's claim?Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:39 amI’m confused. If you want to lynch JJJ, that would mean you do trust Zenon’s claim.Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:36 amThere is no way I will trust Zenon's claim over my willingness to lynch an actual outed JJJ.Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:34 am The most tinfoil detail about Zenon’s claim could be that it’s overpowered. Contrary to JJJ’s ability claim, Zenon would track every visit. And confirmation that there was only one visit, moto’s.
If not for this difference, Zenon’s claim would be identical to JJJ’s.
And can you define in what way JJJ is objectively outed?
Aside from getting rid of town after town, a fake red check is outing yourself as scum. Not only that. A part of me did not believe JJJ, because I have a very hard time townreading JJJ. So there is no way I will allow JJJ surviving another day. Anything that will destract us from lynching JJJ, I see as a potential scum move; to stall a lynch on another scum once again. After all mislynches we cannot allow any more mistakes.
Zenon is just like JJJ a potential scummy in my book. So I won't trust Zenon's claim right now. JJJ is my top scumread. Never rescind.
This being JaggedJimmyJay, as wolf, I am certain he was aware of this backlash.
Otherwise, I think there are partial details to his claim. He only claim he saw “one” visit and deduced it must have been the killing blow.
It gives me pause that, this being JaggedJimmyJay, he did not consider for one sec that his read is limited, i.e. meatball was one of several who may have visited tutuu.
So there’s rational space for this being a town mega blunder, too.
I advocate to get the best interpretation of the sequence of events. Because I find many conflicting threads.
Including the conflicting image of JJJ, cerebral-headman extraordinaire, resorting to such dumb wolf moves.