The Syndicate

Great games, guys, and I especially want to give props to the other baddie team for completely blindsiding us so far into the game! We had no idea of who you guys were pretty much until there were no other options left.

You know what's awful? Starting the games as a civvie with two lives, being suspected enough to presumably not be lynched, and still die as early as possible. Still had a lot of fun following the game after that (didn't even make it a fifth of the way through ), and and, also want to give props to Dana for a great first full game! It was clear by the time you died that the civs weren't gonna win, but you made it to the very end and only died because of a lynch switch. Made me proud.

DP, Roxy. You guys were amazing. It only took me 3 days of your game to be completely addicted to Mafia again. I really enjoyed the secret roles format, and actually look forward to more games like this in the future. Good job!

Can we also just take a moment to appreciate Bullzeye for what a great player he is? He won practically every challenge in the game, and despite all the setbacks he won the game. It only made sense to kill him in the end (well, I probably would've killed Boogs, but I recognize I'm biased ), but most wouldn't have lasted as long as Bullz did. I know you're taking a break, but take this win, and hope to play with you again in the future!

juliets wrote:

bea wrote:Speaking of old mafia things I adored, I really wished I'd saved that video of LC singing Brittney Spears for the contest in Dom's Glee game. That was some srrs gold right there.

I heard LP is back so maybe you can find that game in past games and find the video. It was the highlight of any mafia game I've ever played (well except for ambray/sofi outing her whole team by mistake in that game on rev).

That's probably why she doesn't play anymore.

Also, agreed with Hedge. This game is insane. Can't wait for the endgame!

bea wrote:and while I'm here - are you sure about LC canuck? You and lorab both seem pretty sure he's civ. And I'll admit - I've thought he was civ all game, but could could you be wrong?

I KNOW this is my paranoia speaking. I know it. He double crossed me in trev's star wars game, he double crossed me in wabbit's sword of truth game, he double crossed me in fight club. He's *really* good at starting out as civ and then doing the double cross. Are you SURE about him?

Ahh, Trev's Star Wars was such an amazing game. LP is back, in case anyone hasn't noticed, so all those classic mafia archives are available again The ending was insane. LC knew he could win with me, but he tried to kill me anyway... thankfully my role didn't allow for that

juliets wrote:Enrique I was really surprised by your reveal. I'm sorry you are gone early when you haven't played in a while but I'm glad that another baddie is gone. Sign up again soon!

Already done

and lol yeah that really sucks. I was having so much fun, too

Hey llama I think you're totally super smart and I've agreed with you at least a few times!!!!!

If that's not the explanation, then what the hell, Keterman? Poll was 5 to 6 at that point. Definitely made a difference, and now he's saying Made is obviously bad and we fucked up.

Well, I'm glad we cleared that up.

Try being a little more condescending just so you look like even more of an ass at endgame.

bea wrote:Fuck. rip Mr.

This day went from.shitty to.a. damn dissaster and even Mafia.can't.go.right

I can't even cope.right.now.

Boogs wrote:Lame result and I don't see why everyone jumped on Keterman. Made escapes once again with his Baddie teammates.....

lol did you even read the thread? Keterman was pressuring people out of voting for Made, and pushing against MR.

Hedgeowl wrote:Since we now see that the Beast and the Rabbit were SKs who killed on even and odd nights, I think they balance each other out. There could still be just one mafia team, since the Rabbit killed odd nights and DF was killed NIght 1 and flipped bad. With 25 players and 2 as SKs, I assume a mafia team would have at least 3-4 members. If only 1 mafia, maybe even 5 people. So if we have two mafia teams of 4 players each that would leave 15 potential civ roles. Does that sound balanced enough for those who would know better than me?

I still think it's two Mafias. 4-4 makes sense.

Boogs wrote:

Boogs wrote:Lame result and I don't see why everyone jumped on Keterman. Made escapes once again with his Baddie teammates.....

Mister rearranger. I'm sorry guys I'm in two games and I haven't been keeping up all the way. i don't see how the crowd shifted to Mr Rearanger suddenly and we decided not to lynch Made when we I thought that we mostly agreed he needed to go,

Well clearly you're reading the game wrong then?

I don't claim to have any idea of what that team is. I'm perfectly ok with what I said knowing how I came to that conclusion..

Made, I don't think that's the case, to be honest. Since DF died on night 1 and we know he was Mafia I just kinda took it for granted that there were at least two teams. And in a 25 player game, it only makes sense for balancing reasons. You made a case against MR, so you know at least some people had reasons to believe he was bad. Same with you. The baddies wouldn't need to be one huge unit all voting for the same player for this to go the way it did.

It's not a Misfits scenario. It's as simple as thinking BeaNuk makes too much sense to not be true.

That makes sense, SVS. I was just wondering.

RIP MR.

I still think Made is good, so I guess it was one civvie or the other. Still sucks it had to be that way.

Want to say something about the last second voters but might seem hypocritical being one myself.



edit: SVS, I believe what the lynch post says, but is a Seemer role only possible if it's made? Hmm..

Mongoose wrote:

Enrique wrote:Oh, bwt, changed your vote from MR, didn't notice that. Paving the way for the last second Made lynch, I see.

Nah, he was just a placeholder vote while I made my mind up. I put it right on back after I posted and pushed through linki hell.

... are you BWT?

also, lol, nvm. the opposite of what I was afraid of ended up happening...

Changed from MM to MR because yeah, fuck that. Last second show ups switching away from him are making me uneasy.

linki: I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm saying that it makes me uneasy how quickly the lynch could be turned around.

Oh, bwt, changed your vote from MR, didn't notice that. Paving the way for the last second Made lynch, I see.

[img]mikesteffler.com/graphics/suspicious.gif[/img] @ rey. Considering changing my vote to MR if only to stop a potential last second "I'm not caught up" Made lynch. I'll keep my eyes on the poll. Still feel way more strongly about MM than MR.

BWT wrote:and I may not touch Made with a 20-foot pole the rest of this game because of how big that can of worms has become.

You're encouraged to voice your opinion. As long as it's genuine, you should have nothing to fear.

Oh yeah and welcome Mandi!!

I'm... really surprised MR is leading the lynch right now, to be honest. I appreciated the post Made made on him, but it really wasn't enough for me to place him top of my list. Nobody really cared to discuss him before, either, but now he's being lynched? What gives?

I still believe in BeaNuk, for what it's worth. So not voting for Made.

Honestly... I can't shake this feeling MM is Mafia. I've never played with him before, but I also can't see him being good at all. My ping of him began all the way back in Day 0, I can't really talk about it, but it was a certain reaction he had that led me to ask the thread the question of "Was there any suspicious activity in the Nudgers chat?" Some Winkers might know what I'm talking about here, might be nothing. I couldn't vote for him on Day 1 so in the end I just figured it was nothing and kinda dropped it, but nothing he has done since has really made me feel better about him.

Not to turn this into an "OMGUS," but it was so frustrating to defend myself from him when he wouldn't ever acknowledge any of my points or bother to read up on things I'd said before. He insisted I was doing everything to save Made even after I said I'd probably vote for him. He questioned the DFaraday connection which had been addressed many times before, but he just had to ask again and again then pretend I wasn't giving any answers. He was just dead-set on making me look bad, with no acknowledgement of anything I said in my defense, instead twisting my words to make me look guilty. Of course that doesn't sit well with me. Then there's the Epi thing as another case of rewriting history to validate his points. Yeah, don't think so.

The French thing? Yeah, that's worth keeping in mind, I think. I haven't watched the movie so I don't know if it's really that obvious, but do the French have to be a baddie team? Because the roles we know make no mention of them at all. DF's role implies thre was only one Knight who said Ni, right? So why do the French have to be different? Are they the only "bad" faction in the movie worth having as a team? I jus tdon't get it. It's one thing to speculate, but to work on that assumption and just casually mention "the French team" like it's nothing. I really think MM is bad and will be voting for him.

Wait shit I didn't realize this was ending so early.

Catching up~~

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Oh God. I wish I had Made''s courage, but I have no idea. If he's dismissing BeaNuk's idea then I have no idea why I'm supposed to trust him...?

I... Made, what? Do you know for a fact what saved you?

Not really? It doesn't have to be a part of his role, just AP's. Like Canuck, I'm not suggesting they had BTSC.

Made wrote:Organized by how much they wanted the booty
1. Canuck
2. Enrique (tho he's trying to separate himself from me might warrant him lower on the list)
3. Bea
4. Bullz
4. reywaS
5. BWT (Barely made the list, his lack of aggression towards me makes me think he think favorably of me, but could be me misinterpreting his caution of put me on the defensive.)

Night 2 is when most of my reinforcements arrived. Fucking fair weather friends...
I don't think i'm forgetting anyone, but iunno.

Players are allowed to change their minds. In light of AP's lynch and the surrounding theories, I trust you.

@ Blooper - Look at AP's role, then look at that role in the context of the movie. Maybe you'll see what we're getting at.

To be honest, SVS, for your theory to be correct the baddies would have to be putting WAY too much into this while also being a little too powerful. They would've had to known AP's role with anticipation, switched the lynch to him, Made must have had a Seemer role, let's add in their kill, and saying there's 5-6 of them (all working to save Made every single day).

I find Bea's theory A LOT more likely than this. In fact, I'm pretty confident in it. I haven't watched the movie, but a Google search told me everything I needed to know to figure out what was happening. Do I need to bring up the secret in Concorde's role again? It just seems too obvious. If you don't buy it, that's fine, but unless things change drastically, I know I'm not voting for Made again.

linki: fair enough

Or I can quote the part I want to talk about and be able to quote multiple posts without opening a million tabs.

That's a LoRab post, sorry, I copy and paste into quote tabs.

My eye is on Made. For reasons stated. And if there is a lover situation going on, that doesn't negate one of those lovers being bad. I agree with folks that it likely wasn't a civ switch. There are too many reasons that Made could be bad, that to me outweigh the possibility of a potential civ role pairing that could possibly exist in a form that makes both of them civ in a game in which we have no clue what the roles are. #occam

Well, we know AP was a civvie. Do you think one of the lovers was civ, while the other was bad?

btw do we actually need to be so secretive about the Bea/Canuck theory? Last time I asked the hosts about role speculation they told me to speculate away, as long as I didn't reveal anything about myself.

@Hosts: Can we openly discuss what the secret part of Concorde's role might be?

Hold up SVS I thought me defending Made was what was giving you pause? That's like, the complete opposite of what you're saying.