The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm Made, any last words I guess?

I'm going into a meeting so no time to review proper, but it's been great playing with you all. I don't think this game is lost. I recently quoted all of my most recent takes. Do with them what you will.

And beyond all else...

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while
7 min
jynx

@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while

7 minutes lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:32 pm Made promises to push Epi tomorrow
Hell even I promise to push Epi tomorrow if we chop Koba

it's a bad idea for thread state, trust me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:31 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:30 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:30 pm @Made You're on the epi is mafia train too?
I'm on the I don't think give him a free town read is ever a good idea train
If you push him with me tomorrow ill vote koba

can't make that kinda commitment sorry :/

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:30 pm @Made You're on the epi is mafia train too?

I'm on the I don't think give him a free town read is ever a good idea train

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:28 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:26 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:21 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:20 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:16 pm

Im a bit more confident in koba flipping scum than u
why?
Coz theyre obv mafia for 1 million reasons and i could maybe see a world where ur chill idgaf town. Im 100% convinced theyre mafia and 99% u are
If i'm scum, how am I scum? what are the tells?
I thought that u were scum coz u was pushing only town then u dipped when under pressure
Who are the people Made was pushing? I am too tired to search
Syn, epi, me (maybe sig? Forgot)

I wouldn't of pus--- Ik what I did, I didn't push Epi, i suggested reading him as town for free was iffy, and I stand by that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:26 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:22 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:21 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:20 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:14 pm What's the point of tying here exactly? Do we even know how ties are resolved?
Im a bit more confident in koba flipping scum than u
why?
Coz theyre obv mafia for 1 million reasons and i could maybe see a world where ur chill idgaf town. Im 100% convinced theyre mafia and 99% u are
If i'm scum, how am I scum? what are the tells?
I thought that u were scum coz u was pushing only town then u dipped when under pressure
Who are the people Made was pushing? I am too tired to search

bosyn and sig

also @RondoDimBuckle while we're vibing waiting for the flip. Where are you at on me?

Gotcha. And @TonyStarkPrime

what are you thoughts on me over Dk?

ooo that's exciting!

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:20 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:14 pm What's the point of tying here exactly? Do we even know how ties are resolved?
Im a bit more confident in koba flipping scum than u
why?
Coz theyre obv mafia for 1 million reasons and i could maybe see a world where ur chill idgaf town. Im 100% convinced theyre mafia and 99% u are

If i'm scum, how am I scum? what are the tells?

me on the way to the gallows

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:14 pm What's the point of tying here exactly? Do we even know how ties are resolved?
Im a bit more confident in koba flipping scum than u

why?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:16 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:14 pm What's the point of tying here exactly? Do we even know how ties are resolved?
No, i asked itt but i didn't receive any idea

Then we don't tie here, right?

What's the point of tying here exactly? Do we even know how ties are resolved?

Also, because this is how I normally go over, I don't think a case has been properly articulated on me. DK I've seen, but like there hasn't been any @ on me I haven't responded to I don't think. I know the same can't be said for DK because they haven't responded to me

@Epignosis you remember that one time you almost saved me and I was town??? You wanna do that again but it actually saves me this time?

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:10 pm Nanook's vote is what I would expect out of town Nook here, I don't know enough to say if this is NAI for him, but it at least can be town

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:55 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:53 pm Michelle and DK are not teamed
so from my perspective this is the fucky part. I read Michelle as town enough, and didn't start reading DK as scum until taking a closer look there...but if DK is town and Michelle is town...who is scum here? That's a scary game state

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:30 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.
coming to thread lacking awareness/seemingly care about top two wagons towards the end of the day means town IMO. Especially if DK is scum.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:01 pm Let's save Made I guess.
If DK flips scum, Wilgy is town

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.

This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.
I mean I was comfortable with how day 1 ended until y'all decided to off dya out of nowhere, and I don't like that we're looking away from that, which is why the evolution of my reads has been towards people who are pushing us away from that--IE tutuu

Here are the most recent reads I've made that I still stand by. The DK town stuff seems like it's not very likely, plausible, but like they feel like they're lolcatting

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 am I just iso'd DK...it tells a different story than reading in thread does

[VOTE: DK] aubergine

if DK is scum tho, it's odd their teammates didn't latch on to my hesitation as a means to start another wagon

I realized this is dumb, the other wagon you push here is ME

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:56 pm Why is there a counter wagon now

Et tu Teaspoon?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:18 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:13 am poison/rondo 50/50 but the others i mentioned should be plowed through until a green happens
50/50 one scum/one town or each having independent 50/50 changes to be scum?
I would like this question more if you werent on the chopping block

why?

ohshit we podracing?

Nanook's vote is what I would expect out of town Nook here, I don't know enough to say if this is NAI for him, but it at least can be town

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:55 pm Pretty sure im hammered.
I was town

there is no hammer?!?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:53 pm Michelle and DK are not teamed

so from my perspective this is the fucky part. I read Michelle as town enough, and didn't start reading DK as scum until taking a closer look there...but if DK is town and Michelle is town...who is scum here? That's a scary game state

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:47 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:35 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:30 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.
coming to thread lacking awareness/seemingly care about top two wagons towards the end of the day means town IMO. Especially if DK is scum.
Are you referring to me, or Radishes?
You Ruri, nice to meet you btw!
Ah, I see. Nice to meet you too.

spooky. I just started a new job, and my coworker introduced herself with the same parrot

. Which i didn't know was added as a syndicate emote!!

She then immediately sent me this:
https://cultofthepartyparrot.com/

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:42 pm I completely exposed Michelle's dishonesty with how they got caught pretending like they treat meta less importantly

I mean the cool thing is she's dying in 4 hours. her aside, (and i guess me aside too, but that might not be practical) where is your head at?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:34 pm @112 @Epignosis @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
We have to vote in the main wagons today

spewed if Michelle is scum. I doubt she's scum, but just in case

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:30 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.
coming to thread lacking awareness/seemingly care about top two wagons towards the end of the day means town IMO. Especially if DK is scum.
Are you referring to me, or Radishes?

You Ruri, nice to meet you btw!

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm @Poison @Master Radishes
You're both in my POE. Radishes moreso.

coming to thread lacking awareness/seemingly care about top two wagons towards the end of the day means town IMO. Especially if DK is scum.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:24 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:23 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:22 pm i don't even know why made has votes tbh
Then vote koba didnt u sr them
If town let you live d3 they deserve to lose
I am unkillable, unlynchable, immune to poison dayvig arson and even unmodkillable.

lol same

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:01 pm Let's save Made I guess.

If DK flips scum, Wilgy is town

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:03 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:01 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:50 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:56 pm last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO

scotty/sig still on my scumdar
They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

My problem with sheeping Mac on a 3rd read is that a villager would always RB a mafia read as the best mechanical play @MacDougall please confirm me that a player with 5 years game experience would chases mafia and not 3rds in N1.
Choosing from Mac's reads exactly the 3rd part read is not only antitown, it's what mafia would do because they fear the most 3rds abilities who can cause a lot of harm to the wolves.

The LMFAO is added artificially to make the post appealing and coming like from an unstressed player, but i feel it fake and added to hide the awkward target of someone who should not be targeted by a town out of common sense.

The line of scum reads is performative and pushes Scotty who we know now is villager.

Dkkoba is mafia because from all Mac's reads they targeted the 3rd part read and made the post like an excuse. The last line is added to show themselves as solvy but is in fact a hidden push for Scotty. Idk what does for Sig but this is a concern after Dkkoba will flip.

That would be the proof number 2
this still accurate?
It's my opinion

Yeah, but is this still an accurate representation of your opinion?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:50 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:56 pm last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO

scotty/sig still on my scumdar
They claimed RBer later. Probably a claim close to their real role and they can say it is a way of claiming safe if they are villager to avoid a soup kill. Whether a soup kill exists or not, we don't really know it because 'Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests' doesn't imply an anticlaim mechanic that big, but mafia can have a claim vigi for eg.

My problem with sheeping Mac on a 3rd read is that a villager would always RB a mafia read as the best mechanical play @MacDougall please confirm me that a player with 5 years game experience would chases mafia and not 3rds in N1.
Choosing from Mac's reads exactly the 3rd part read is not only antitown, it's what mafia would do because they fear the most 3rds abilities who can cause a lot of harm to the wolves.

The LMFAO is added artificially to make the post appealing and coming like from an unstressed player, but i feel it fake and added to hide the awkward target of someone who should not be targeted by a town out of common sense.

The line of scum reads is performative and pushes Scotty who we know now is villager.

Dkkoba is mafia because from all Mac's reads they targeted the 3rd part read and made the post like an excuse. The last line is added to show themselves as solvy but is in fact a hidden push for Scotty. Idk what does for Sig but this is a concern after Dkkoba will flip.

That would be the proof number 2

this still accurate?

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:57 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 am I just iso'd DK...it tells a different story than reading in thread does

[VOTE: DK] aubergine

if DK is scum tho, it's odd their teammates didn't latch on to my hesitation as a means to start another wagon
Someone yelled at made in scumchat to vote me LMAO
Hey tutuu i bet it was you ~~~

if someone else told me to vote you, I would have positioned myself to make the vote better

I just iso'd DK...it tells a different story than reading in thread does

[VOTE: DK] aubergine

if DK is scum tho, it's odd their teammates didn't latch on to my hesitation as a means to start another wagon

and from my point of view, the wagons currently are two town, which compared to yesterday is not a good look.

Before I accidentally defend scum tho, what exactly is the case against DK?

Hell, I could 100% see Bojack HorseSyn, Sig, Tutuu as a scum team

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:37 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.

This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.
I mean I was comfortable with how day 1 ended until y'all decided to off dya out of nowhere, and I don't like that we're looking away from that, which is why the evolution of my reads has been towards people who are pushing us away from that--IE tutuu
I mean D1 ended with 4 main wagons at some point in the final hours from what I can tell: Dya, Scotty, Syn, Sig. Two of those are now confirmed town. That doesn't shake your view at all?
My top suses were syn and sig, Dya actually getting chopped and Scotty being proven town makes me feel like I was more right. Do we really wagon four town day one? I doubt it

did, not do**

did we really*

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.

This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.
I mean I was comfortable with how day 1 ended until y'all decided to off dya out of nowhere, and I don't like that we're looking away from that, which is why the evolution of my reads has been towards people who are pushing us away from that--IE tutuu
I mean D1 ended with 4 main wagons at some point in the final hours from what I can tell: Dya, Scotty, Syn, Sig. Two of those are now confirmed town. That doesn't shake your view at all?

My top suses were syn and sig, Dya actually getting chopped and Scotty being proven town makes me feel like I was more right. Do we really wagon four town day one? I doubt it

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.

This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.

I mean I was comfortable with how day 1 ended until y'all decided to off dya out of nowhere, and I don't like that we're looking away from that, which is why the evolution of my reads has been towards people who are pushing us away from that--IE tutuu

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:21 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:18 am [VOTE: DkKoba] aubergine

Ties make things interesting.
from my perspective (which thinks DK is town, and knows I am town), this vote only make sense as town--unless it's to prevent another wagon from taking off which i just don't see in this game state.
Not gonna lie, your reading of your counterwagon as town feels like something I'd think I should do as a wolf.

that's probably part of why we're both so hard to read lmao

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:18 am [VOTE: DkKoba] aubergine

Ties make things interesting.

from my perspective (which thinks DK is town, and knows I am town), this vote only make sense as town--unless it's to prevent another wagon from taking off which i just don't see in this game state.

I mean I don't push players I don't think are scum, and I don't think DK is scum. It's that simple tbh. It would be advantageous for me to think DK was scum right now, but I don't.

how many scum are we thinking btw? 5-6?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:27 am
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:25 am This is probably not where I'll vote today, but this is my sussest read rn tbh
[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine
Is this just you giving up

no lol this is me trying funny enough

Why have we stopped talking about 112?

Actually okay wait, if Dk is town, we're not a in a good place right now

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