The Syndicate

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:45 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:41 pm @DaisyCloud the game we played in together was Spiderverse and I died on day 3 without ever reading any posts from days 1 or 2 and i think that's why i didn't remember, also you have exactly 1337 posts right now

I remember you ♡

I literally don't remember that game. we're we both town?

I'm sorry I sussed u.

and yes please keep Kyling. it was fun playing with you. ♡

mmmmm i got soupkilled on day 3 you survived til day 6, we were both town

also don't be sorry for sussing. being misread as town is important for sowing doubt when i'm mafia :zen:

@DaisyCloud the game we played in together was Spiderverse and I died on day 3 without ever reading any posts from days 1 or 2 and i think that's why i didn't remember, also you have exactly 1337 posts right now

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:30 pmKyle, you're awesome, don't stop Kyling all over plx

i love you too and i will never stop kyling

thank you for winning this so that everyone will forget about how my only physical contribution to this game was letting Marmot and Mog avoid going to the loser's bracket B)

get rekt nerds

this is my legacy..... please keep it in mind for after i've been eliminated.
spoilered cus it's a little longer than i thought it would be, haha oops. good luck have fun you crazy kids <333

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:15 pm New game called follow Tim’s plan and blame him when we lose to Daisy/Marmot

i already called this pairing so if this happens, that's basically better than winning, in terms of the serotonin gained for me personally, which is, at the end of the day, what this is all about really..

2 posts left i need to find a really good meme for this

unvote gman, [VOTE: HK] aubergine

wait nevermind this is dumb, the mafia wouldn't worry about breaking the tie cus they control ties

unvote HK
[VOTE: Tim] aubergine idk let's make it weird for a sec

i'm not afraid of alison, if she wanted to have a say in what happened in the game she shouldn't have gotten herself killed

what is a dvc

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:46 pm god alison's gonna be so mad at me

why

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine
[VOTE: HK] aubergine
[VOTE: Gman] aubergine

give me a reason why to swap gman out for tim here, gman looks worse than tim and i think is more likely to be mafia. as far as i can tell the only reason to suspect tim is if i think tim is trying to do some reverse psychology thing, or if he's mafia and he's trying to set up his partner for victory by dying but planting out a bunch of wifom seeds or something

pleas ekeepy in mind that i have only like 8 posts left lol

ok the fact that i'm in a position to actually force Tim to play out day 4 is very annoying, someone else tell me what you think I should do so I can take a nap.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:21 pm @Timsup2nothin who specifically do you think is going to vote you at lylo with 100% certainty? I've only really seen HK speak against you.

If I kill three more towns here today and I am at F5 LYLO who would NOT vote for me?

u guys are always so obsessed with inventing perspectives. who thinks like that? town make cases on towns all the time. acting like it's a foregone conclusion that anyone who's ever wrong about anything should go to the gallows is so alien and distant from what actually happens in real life where people make decisions based on their experiences and thoughts and emotions and such or whatever.

i think your plan will work well enough, just because i suspect marmot, and this should at minimum open the floor to put him under scrutiny, which is good cus the mafia is totally 100% just him probably

i just,... feel like this game has been a long chain of people making decisions designed to make the choice at lylo easiest but it doesn't seem like it's going to even be.... mmm... idk what. my brain is tired and sleepy, becauzse of the sweet sweet nectar called the moderna vaccine, i don't think i'm useful now

@Timsup2nothin who specifically do you think is going to vote you at lylo with 100% certainty? I've only really seen HK speak against you.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm tim's self sacrificing is cheesy and bullshit but mine is cool and heroic it's different

Tim’s actually self voting, coward

I self voted way before Tim ever did maybe check your sources

tim's self sacrificing is cheesy and bullshit but mine is cool and heroic it's different

hot take I think Tim's cheesy self-sacrificing bullshit seems earnest and townsided

what the fuck stop putting me in ties

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 pmI think it would be really interesting to see the Kyle votes juxtaposed with these takes. Time to go back through the G-Man ISO I guess for his vote tracker post.
I want to unvote kyle here b/c if this is from a wolf it's really well done, but there are a few things that don't sit right with me. If there were concerns about Marmot/Mogh from Kyle during the day phase yesterday I don't remember reading them.
Additionally, none of his votes have landed on Marmot/Mogh. Something to contemplate anyways.

I'm currently working through the votes tally that G-Man has prepared and looking for patterns. I'll have something on that later

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 pmI think it would be really interesting to see the Kyle votes juxtaposed with these takes. Time to go back through the G-Man ISO I guess for his vote tracker post.
I want to unvote kyle here b/c if this is from a wolf it's really well done, but there are a few things that don't sit right with me. If there were concerns about Marmot/Mogh from Kyle during the day phase yesterday I don't remember reading them.
Additionally, none of his votes have landed on Marmot/Mogh. Something to contemplate anyways.

I'm currently working through the votes tally that G-Man has prepared and looking for patterns. I'll have something on that later

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 pmI think it would be really interesting to see the Kyle votes juxtaposed with these takes. Time to go back through the G-Man ISO I guess for his vote tracker post.
I want to unvote kyle here b/c if this is from a wolf it's really well done, but there are a few things that don't sit right with me. If there were concerns about Marmot/Mogh from Kyle during the day phase yesterday I don't remember reading them.
Additionally, none of his votes have landed on Marmot/Mogh. Something to contemplate anyways.

I'm currently working through the votes tally that G-Man has prepared and looking for patterns. I'll have something on that later

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:02 amyeah you're right. you are purposefully forgetting an important thing. i don't buss. im not mafia.

i don't know anything like either of those things. i don't know what you're talking about at all. the use of "purposefully" is noted

there was more.

I need tim or g-man to scum read me or my brain can't function.

because

that's how I found Made. Alison scum reading me so I comb the game looking for anyone and anything sus to prove her wrong.

I don't need you sussing me because it won't have the same impact to my small brain.

i actually don't know what any of this means individually or in aggregate. i think your brain probably functions fine with or without those things

did you read mog? what did you look into? do you really think mog and Marmot r in bracket1 just towning it up?
what is your thoughts on mog?

if you are town and I am town then that leaves hk, g-man, tim, Tony

TonyStarkPrime is what to you?

do u think Alison found tim?

i'm skipping this stuff cus it's mostly covered in my iso thingy.

you been quiet kyle. why is that kyle?

i was sick during day 2 and wasn't informed the game had started until like 24 hours into day 1.

do you even know who Gavial is? I mentioned him now because have you looked at legacy posts?

gavial's dead?

how many posts of your 24 r u gonna use kyle? will we see walls kyle?

just the one wall. and maybe one more for tim, if there's time after the shot. this was what time i had left that could be fully dedicated to this game.

if you don't know me, haven't read my iso, paid 0 attention to me Kylemii then why u sus me? should I not be null for u?

your most recent posts seemed scummy, and the fact that you're below everyone's radar seems in line with the way marmot's playing. my comment on you and marmot was to say "maybe the wolves are just where we're not looking actually". it wasn't a serious accusation.

I swear we played together in other games. if you know anything about me you know I never bus. I have had teammates bus me but I don't bus.

I'm not ranting Kylemii. I wasn't trying to be weird and cryptic. it was like u hit me with a 2x4. as if I would buss.

to the best of my knowledge this is our first game together, if we've played together before i'm sorry, but i don't remember. why do you expect me to remember your specific trust tell from a game that neither of us can remember the specifics of, or even remember whether it happened for sure?

Daisy: tonally i think she looks fine, unless i'm missing something i don't see any particularly strong contribution to taking down made. they did the "i see myself voting for ___ or ___" thing with mac and made which is a classic bus script, especially when followed by a 'i don't really know about made i haven't looked into their iso yet' followed by not seemingly looking into or commenting about a made iso. i dislike that they painted their contribution to made's death as being strong because it doesn't seem that way to me, and it doesn't seem outside of the range of bussing by a longshot. so "do you really think i bussed Made?" seems disingenuous. i don't see the post where they voted for made so it's possible the iso is fucked up and i'm not seeing some posts? on the flip side, many of their posts seem.... off the cuff in a way that seems genuine, in a way that's more difficult to fake as wolf. question for/about daisy that anyone can answer, what is daisy's experience level? has she been around a lot and played a lot of games on other sites?

Gman: i thought and i still think that a lot of G-man's early contributions (day 1) were sort of.... easy to without really ruffling feathers, i.e. the +,- list. there is a sort of formulaic diligence to the way G-man has moved through this game. like he's doing what he's supposed to do when he's supposed to do it. but he's also.... seems very thorough. if gman is mafia he's doing a good job of creating work work for himself and then doing the work. it's tough to actually place his intentions without the opportunity for involvement in the made vote. if he's mafia i wouldn't be annoyed losing to him. well actually i'd be a little annoyed.

HK: first town-look moment for HK was when he demanded to be sent to the shadow realm to deal with TSP and Tim respectively, and he has pretty much done exactly that since getting here. gth i think town. his mental processes are clearly on display in his posts, and it's easy to see where they're coming from and where they went.

Tim: i really shouldn't have saved tim for last i wish to sleep. ugh. my brain is dead and his words are just sort of floating together and i'm not catching any of it. there are a LOT of words i need to be awake for vaccine tomorrow so i think i'm going to save tim legacy for tomorrow.

Tsp: side note this is a nightmare people have to start tagging their votes. if true, i think tony's defense that made and himself voting different people would have kept them both out of the LB is valid, assuming his goal was to stay out of the LB. made seemingly wanted to be in the LB. i don' t know if tony did. there's not particularly a lot of meat on these bones. casual posts which move things forward

marmot: marmot irked my buttons by town reading me and has been in general high spirits, which is cool and good but it makes me nervous, like marmot is a cool guy and funny and i KNOW he's good at pocketing me and i KNOW he's very well capable of it and i guess i'm somewhat paranoid of the same thing happening here because of what mostly NANOOK and a little bit I, did in stardew valley. marmot is a prankster supreme and posting stuff like "this time i'm a wolf" when i jokingly ask him if he's mafia is exactly the kind of thing he'd do. i know this just sounds like the ramblings of an insane person but that's where i'm at lol. content-wise there is nothing particularly indicating that he could be town or mafia. marmot claiming a TR on me because of "a solid mix of jests and reads that looks authentic" was another thing that irked, specifically because our most recent game together Marmot and some others were fooled by specifically that exact thing, reading me (and again mostly Nanook) as town because of my easy breezy jocular attitude, which is something he should be specifically wary of, and also i haven't read my posts, but i don't think there was enough meat on any of my day 1 or 2 reads to be certified as authentic by any passersby.

mog: similarly to daisy, i disliked that mog used their position on the made train as evidence for their own goodness, though we went through like a whole fucking thing about it and i'm not gonna get into it, i came out of it feeling like they really felt what they were saying was true rather than just sheeping other people's thoughts, gth town i guess. if they're mafia it's up to someone else to figure it out lol sorry this list took a long time and i'm already passing out, i still have to do like 3 more people.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:04 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:00 am i could not have been any more clear about not having read or iso'd your posts yet but for the record anyone would bus made because made is the type of person to suggest that he be bussed

those are just words and I can just put words down too. see im making sentences. oh, look here is one more.

what are you even talking about? please don't waste my time or my posts i only get like 24 more. if you have something to say please just say it directly instead of being weird and cryptic.

what is your purpose with this post? what's the implication supposed to be?

is there something about the way you approached made that you think goes above and beyond the scope of bussing?

i could not have been any more clear about not having read or iso'd your posts yet but for the record anyone would bus made because made is the type of person to suggest that he be bussed

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:00 pm Who do you think is wolfing here Kyle and why?

i lowkey just think it might be marmot and daisy but that's a vibes only read, lemme finish deleting all my animal crossing mail and i'll look things through

ah i see

HK, can i ask why you think that Tim and i can't be wolves together or at least shouldn't be yote together? this is in regards to your statement that today should be Tony + Me or Tim + a third indeterminate person.

or it could just be that marmot...... is in love with me :0

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:20 pm Kyle, when you say things like that, I both don't want to send you down and get paranoid you're WIFOMing me lol

Stop it!!!

I have to have to have to HAVE to start conserving my posts, TSP is going to be mad that I called his case garbage so I'm probably going to have to save some posts for that.

I just want to share my concern that this may be an exaggerated pantomime by marmot

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:14 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:49 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:45 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.

I mean I hope to get chopped alongside those 2 of those people.

the problem isn't anything to do with that suspicion it's that I've not really done anything to remove myself from the PoE, if we make it to the final 5 with 2 mafia alive, if even one town person thinks I'm mafia and votes as such then that's just game over, right? and despite there being only a thin case against me, there's not much of a case for me either. I can't really point to anything that I've done that I could only do as town because I've basically only been a cell phone boy for this entire game up until now, and also I guess, including now.

sure, but can you tonally be town for 3 days while not putting a foot wrong? because that's what I see you have going for yourself.

I'm always tonally town

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:18 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:16 pm kyle voting for everyone in the top eight not named made is astounding

I see that you kinda already talked about this here, but why didn't you vote Made? Made did ask to be sent to the LB.

This is for @Kylemii

I don't think he caught my attention in any meaningful way. Before I voted pragmatically to save myself I was voting for people who I thought would be easier to read and solve if they got sent down to the tiger pits to fight it out. All made had going for/against him was that he asked to be sent which wasn't unique to him.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:49 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:45 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.

I mean I hope to get chopped alongside those 2 of those people.

the problem isn't anything to do with that suspicion it's that I've not really done anything to remove myself from the PoE, if we make it to the final 5 with 2 mafia alive, if even one town person thinks I'm mafia and votes as such then that's just game over, right? and despite there being only a thin case against me, there's not much of a case for me either. I can't really point to anything that I've done that I could only do as town because I've basically only been a cell phone boy for this entire game up until now, and also I guess, including now.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

and now I really gotta actually try and conserve my posts lol.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:35 pm Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?

I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ

prayerhandsemoji

I mean the bottom line is, if this game reaches single elimination and I'm not dead or somehow widely townread the game ends in a loss. it's the same scenario as in Ants mafia except this time I don't have to argue with Alison about it.

I'd we allow a tie the other guys are gonna be pissed. Tim is probably reading this right now pissing his pants in anger or delight.

My tendency to post in small bite sized chunks instead of giant unreadable garbage essays that no one really reads is going to be the death of me, I just used like 5 posts to say "ties probably bad please kill me"

if we're doing tie strats I propose that it be a 3 way tie for second place with me @ 1st.

I think I actually just don't like the tie idea in this circumstance? that just lets the wolves determine the shape of the endgame without acting in public

if you force a tie the wolves will save me to frame, (or if you suspect me I guess you can view it as saving me because I am wolves?)

what would you learn otherwise

i just remembered the post limit. this is my reminder to my future self that i have, i think just 40 posts left

or HK is a secret 3rd party :0000

i think the optimal choice here is me and HK

HK is either mafia and going to tier 2 gives opportunity for those guys to send it, or he's town and motivated to go after tim and tony which i think will be good for solving that area of the game, and lead to an endgame with as much to work with as possible

Marmot could be mafia but for real if he's mafia and he responded to "are you mafia" with "okay this time i'm mafia ^_^" i don't care that much if he wins cus it'll at least be funny

but also i think he'll be easy to sort out once the tribes merge.

i do not remember nor have the energy to look up any of the other bracket peeps involvement in made's stuff, i feel like that would probably be important. each of tim, tony, and gman have pinged me in the past at some point, and i will probably spend night 3 looking into them. i know that's not really an answer lol. daisy cloud is likewise notable that i just don't remember them.

well not infinitely lol