The Syndicate

I guess I'm bad at math. I thought I'd have more time. I'm voting nutella cus it's the best thing I can do at this point.

sorry nutella I hope you're bad.

if people are willing to fire drill on Nova then I'm down for that too I guess.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:43 pmIt has nothing to do with disagreeing with me. Sig doesn't agree with me, I feel great about him. It has to do with you have no valid opinions other than saving Chuck.

If you agree it's a valid opinion then stop voting for him. There's time a time and a place for making cases and this isn't it.

And again, I know what tunnelvision is. This is not it.

stop.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:10 pmIt's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.
well i obviously love you, but i didn't see your line of questioning as being something I could personally contribute to so i opted instead to wait and see how other people responded to it.

Why do you need other’s opinions of things to make your decisions? I’ve always seen you slinging your thoughts out there without restraint. But now?

It's not important rn but this is an inaccurate portrayal of my playstyle. I have never been known for slinging thoughts without restraint, not since like 2010

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:28 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:03 pmTunnelvisions would be days and days of going after the same person, not 12 hours.
the only player allowed to argue semantics with me is epignosis. you're looking down a tunnel at Speedchuck where you're only seeing how his actions make sense in a baddie's perspective. there are other perspectives, can you really say you're considering them all?

Plus the last time I felt like this about Jack in (I forget the theme, he was Nutellas teammate) and I kept dropping it becasue "tunnelvision" and I was right, he was bad. So if I think I am right, then why would I not be true to myself.
because speedchuck isn't jack and being right about jack several months ago in some random game doesn't make you more or less likely to be right about Speedchuck in a different game.

So if I could not vote for Chuck, I might vote for you. Just being honest here. Give me some names, Kyle, and it might change.
seriously svs?
Srsly, and I am not the only one it seems.

And I know he isn't Jack, my point was that I doubted my self and I should not have. And I know what tunnelvision is, this is not it.

disagreeing with you doesnt make me mafia

tunneling is assuming you're right about something and ignoring all evidence indicating that your opinion might be wrong.

I have 4 more pages to catch up on. brb

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:03 pmTunnelvisions would be days and days of going after the same person, not 12 hours.

the only player allowed to argue semantics with me is epignosis. you're looking down a tunnel at Speedchuck where you're only seeing how his actions make sense in a baddie's perspective. there are other perspectives, can you really say you're considering them all?

Plus the last time I felt like this about Jack in (I forget the theme, he was Nutellas teammate) and I kept dropping it becasue "tunnelvision" and I was right, he was bad. So if I think I am right, then why would I not be true to myself.

because speedchuck isn't jack and being right about jack several months ago in some random game doesn't make you more or less likely to be right about Speedchuck in a different game.

So if I could not vote for Chuck, I might vote for you. Just being honest here. Give me some names, Kyle, and it might change.

seriously svs?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:48 pmI am thinking critically about it, Kyle. This is a game where we pick apart the minutiae of each others posts, after all. All you are saying is, "Anyone but Chuck".

I'm not saying you aren't. what I am asking is that you be careful of letting yourself get tunnel vision. Idk if this is still how you are but the svs that I remember rarely changed her mind once she decided on things, but that's what I'm asking for. if you couldn't lynch Speedchuck today then who would you lynch?

Give me an alternative. Ambray is not coming back, she's in Europe. Chuck started off with one vote as a penalty for not voting yesterday. So he has 2 votes that aren't going anywhere. Nutella is coming back, too. (linki, no she is here)

Who else do you propose?

I'll do my best to answer this when I get home. it'll be about 20 minutes.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 pmYeah you said that before about how you thought Speedchuck was a bad lynch. I am beginning to feel like a bad person for actually having suspects... in a Mafia game. Has having suspects gone out of fashion while I was not playing?

Suspecting people is incredibly cool but thinking critically about all angles of every situation and sometimes getting really anxious about it is also very cool, some might say, even cooler.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:26 pmEdit~ Who DO you think would make a good lynch today?

i'm not sure. this game hasn't quite gotten it's gnarled claws latched into my brain stem yet.

but speedchuck really isn't on the list of priority lynches, he's a town-read for me. i don't really like any of the other vote recipients either but i think speed's lynch seems like the worst.

i have to get to guitar lesson but afterwards i'll spend more time answering your question on who we should lynch. this is a 2 lynch day and i think it's important we do this right. this could be a good opportunity to hit the mafia but it also has obvious potential for disaster. i don't want to take this phase lightly, i'll be back in an hour and a half.

reviewing the roles.... despite Caleb being a neutral role he's actually really anti town. 1 day out of every set of 4 nights is going to fuck with our info roles and give them faulty reads. Caleb has a lot of damage potential just by existing

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:35 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:51 pm @laplulie i noticed while isoing that there've been a couple people asking you for suspects that you haven't gotten around to answering yet, do you have any?
hey, my name is not paulie although that woulda been cool. I suppose the tags aren't working in favours as I'm not really seeing much notifications following up to me.
right now it's DFaraday, I've explained why in response to svs..I believe

do you have any suspects other than DF?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:11 pmMostly gut, his suspicions feel manufactured, like he is suspecting people becasue he needs suspects. It's a tone thing; I do not believe him to be sincere.

i don't think i see speed's posts the same way you do, he's mentioned that he's been distracted by MK mafia and i do believe that's true. I think his lines of suspicion have been reasonable, even when i didn't necessarily agree with them, the only suspects he put forward that seemed contrived were the tranq and ambray thing, and even that i'm struggling to see a mafia motivation for. aside from that his thoughts have been agreeable, and the back and forth between you two kind of comes off as a misunderstanding over types of post lynch analysis.

i don't think speedchuck would make a good lynch today. the whole thing gives off the flavor of a mis-lynch in the making.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:11 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:02 pm i don't understand svs's issues with speedchuck

svs can you explain your suspicion?
Mostly gut, his suspicions feel manufactured, like he is suspecting people becasue he needs suspects. It's a tone thing; I do not believe him to be sincere.

You said you wanted to read Marmots posts to see why someone would kill him. Did you read any of the other NK victims posts to see why they might have been killed, or just
Marmot?

no, just marmot. marmot has a higher than average chance of being mafia because of the fact that he was able to be killed by spike.

i don't understand svs's issues with speedchuck

svs can you explain your suspicion?

[mention]laplulie[/mention] i noticed while isoing that there've been a couple people asking you for suspects that you haven't gotten around to answering yet, do you have any?

okay yeah i don't see anything particularly telling in marmot's posts, not much to work with there

i'm taking a shower, gonna get on a computer after so I can do some ISO's. i'm gonna start with dfaraday, juliets, speedchuck, and svs let me know if there's anyone else I should cover

could someone make an iso link for marmot? i'm on mobile and idk how to do it :x

linki: oh.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:26 pm I agree with speed that lap is town, but I agree with svs that speed is sus.

I think DF simply misread the drusilla-spike recruitment sentence (like switched the pronouns in his mind or something and interpreted it backwards) and I think he is unlikely to be on the vampire team

hey @Kylemii what are your thoughts?

Hey, sorry. My attention has been largely focused on a different game which is currently at a somewhat critical juncture. For about 2/3 of the next 5.5 hours this game will be my #1 priority.

earlier i wanted to look through marmot's posts to see if I can see what spike might have seen in him so i'm going to start there.

Juliets friend could you give me a link to 2 games you've played the most recently?

I don't really know for sure if Dawn counts as a human in terms of Spikes brain thingy.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:05 am If that's the case then it's basically worst case scenario is he killed a civ that seems to have anti-town potential.

Anya is a demon or.... ex demon? so she could probably be killed by spike, also Dawn was like.... a cosmic entity made into human form, i don't remember if spike was able to hurt her.

chance seems good that spike hit an indy or mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:44 amWillow (or do witches count as humans?)

if they go by the same rules as they do in the show then willow is probably safe to cross off the list. Witches are basically just humans who read the right blogs. Also according to the wiki, Willow was actually the first person the chip prevented Spike from attacking.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:03 amJackofhearts was killed by the Vampires.

Marmot has been killed by Spike.

Timmer has been killed by Riley.

DrWilgy has been killed by Glory.

holy shit

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:09 pm I just now realized the trio is the no player option.
I hadn't noticed either! That is full of awesome. They are kind of my favorite.

what? no way they're The Worst.

I just now realized the trio is the no player option.

was the previous buffy game with the dark willow role a black rock long con game? I remember from stories that that role became a big deal. Would BRLC make homage to that?

.....dark willow might be too obvious of an answer actually

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:45 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:41 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:37 am I voted Angelous cause I watched his show a bit.

Maybe that's a bad idea since he's in this game and bad.

Dark Willow a bad choice for similar reasons. Who is a better choice Buffy watchers?
what similar reasons make willow seem like a bad choice?

you watched angel but not buffy? :-?
What if it gives her a penalty for the day?

Someone else in the house watched something that was on before or after Angel so I watched it a bit. Maybe Charmed? Terrible show.

but what's similar about the reason? "what if it gives her a penalty" is the opposite reason

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:14 amWith just over 50 percent of voters, punishments will apply. +1 vote on day 2 to any player who did not vote.

we need to keep this in mind tomorrow

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:37 am I voted Angelous cause I watched his show a bit.

Maybe that's a bad idea since he's in this game and bad.

Dark Willow a bad choice for similar reasons. Who is a better choice Buffy watchers?

what similar reasons make willow seem like a bad choice?

you watched angel but not buffy? :-?

willow is at least a civ role

rip loop, that was maybe the worst possible result? I guess there are some ways we could use the double lynch productively... we definitely need better voter turnout for day 2.

voted Dark Willow cus it's the most objectively correct answer. May change if some reasoning is presented for what option might be good. Also who would ever pick the master or the trio?

[mention]Loop[/mention] you have to post sometimes

Loop just dropped in and voted for Wilgy

so it's either Wilgy or Loop rn...

I don't really have a strong reason to see any of the current vote getters as civ... other than Mac and maybe rabbit they're mostly low-contrib.

there are also only 7 votes on the board, with 12 minutes left

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:12 pm Eye me all you want.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:20 pm (one for each eye)

i knew something was missing,

this finally feels like mafia again

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:10 pmIt's moreso the lack of entertaining me and then answering her instead? You're either teammates or you hate me. Knowing that you love me, it's gotta be the former.

well i obviously love you, but i didn't see your line of questioning as being something I could personally contribute to so i opted instead to wait and see how other people responded to it.

[mention]nutella[/mention] wasn't loop the one you thought might be your boyfriend the other day on discord? did you ever find out for sure?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?

I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?

Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?
explain
What's to explain? I am speculating that you are teammates?

why would explaining a jayterm to Juliets that she didn't know the meaning of make us teammates?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:31 pmSo you answered what it is but not my question that provoked hers?

I'm more interested in her response to your assertion. I didn't think it seemed important to validate your memory of things Jay says. Literally speaking her post seems like it might be categorized as player salad, do you think it's meaningful?

Interesting. Teammie helping teammie?

explain

maybe never posting anything ever is a shiny new avant garde method of playing mafia

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm The game is about to start so I'm going to go ahead and vote though I may change it later. Per my earlier post I am looking at DFaraday, JackofHearts and Dr. Wilgy. DF has been participating so I'm going to rule him out for that. Dr. Wilgy has only posted one completely off topic post but I guess he's been known to do that according to Kyle (I guess I just haven't noticed) so that leaves Jack who hasn't posted at all. I'm going to go ahead and vote for Jack but does anyone know anything about why he's not here? Like is he on vacation or anything? Maybe my vote will pressure him to participate. I'll try to keep up with reading posts during the game but I don't expect to post.
If Jimmy were here, would he call this player salad?
I don't know what that means...

Player Salad is a thing Jay says when players talk about or mention a bunch of players they might vote for or suspect all at once, I think the idea is that doing it allows a mafia voting flexibility later on.

loop didn't post anything in the sign up thread either.....

Jack is playing but hasn't posted at all?

2 hours left and only 4/20 votes are on the board

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:36 pm The lynch poll ends at 5am my time. As for my vote, i'm considering players that didn't vote in the night poll:

DFaraday
DrWilgy
Illyria
Jackofhearts2005

Or rabbit

tranq sdid you explain why missing the d0 poll would be symptomatic of mafia behavior, or is it a participation thing, or is it actually an excuse to vote for rabbit

Who is Loop? what is Loop's history?

Dr. Wilgy being a wild boy doesn't mean he should be removed from scrutiny. Wilgy is a player who um.... he's often inscrutable because of the way he plays and often ends up being taken out of or put into the pool of suspicion by process of elimination.

informing people of the usage of sodium nitrate out of the blue isn't necessarily an alignment indicator for him, but level of effort from him can be.

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