The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 9:21 pm when did wolbre move his vote?

Within the last minute. I reloaded at 9:04 and I saw that changed

[mention]wolbre04[/mention] why?

jack had 4 votes when I voted but now there's only 3

when did wolbre move his vote?

and now we wait i guess

no. [VOTE: novasalinever] aubergine

actually [VOTE: Dom] aubergine

mathematically speaking, Jack is getting lynched. so I'm aubergining [VOTE: novasalinever] aubergine to expand the sniper's domain

in 30 words or less

remind me the deal with wolbre

don't kinkshame me :\

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pmKyle trending down but that’s largely cause I want him to vote earlier.

voting with mere seconds to spare before the poll closes is the only way i can feel anything anymore

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:57 pm Excuse me, I thought this indicated you don't find it easy to believe:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:40 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:01 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:17 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:17 pm @juliets when you get a sec I'd be curious to hear what you think about my Epignosis theory

I see it as a possibility Kyle but if he is one of the two I lean to the round-faced independent. I just don't think he's bad.

but why

I think if he were bad he would have voted for me and tried to get others to as well. Also, it doesn't behoove him not to explain himself like his vote for you or address JJJ's points because it outwardly makes him look more suspicious. I think if he were bad he would try to look civ.

why would an unlynchable Epignosis care about how he looked?

no, Juliets seemed certain that Epignosis couldn't be the unlynchable mafia role because if he were that role then he'd care that acting the way he did would make him more suspicious looking.

i think being especially hard to remove from the playing field would incentivize especially reckless tactics and gameplay choices that would ordinarily be really bad strategies, that's why i asked Juliets that question.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm This whole "you're going for a mislynch" thing is so bogus. I had Jack as a civilian read 48 hours ago. I don't need to cook up some convoluted plan to make Jack my specific target if I am pursuing a mislynch. My read turned because I don't believe in it anymore.

Again, Epi looked so bad, 3 people said they thought he was the unlynchable mafia member.

You exaggerate this. It was basically just you saying that, with JJJ slightly saying he considered it. Juliets and Kyle didn't think so. No one else talked about it.

I was actually leaning towards epi being the knock-off pheonix wright role basically up until his death.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:30 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:27 pm jack when did you start suspecting epignosis?

Idk, man. Apparently, there was a Jimmy case but all I remember is him being super unhelpful and stubborn....which in hindsight is a bad reason to vote.

so it was a sort of gradually growing suspicion that expanded as he continued being Wilgy-like?

why didn't you mention it earlier than you did?

jack when did you start suspecting epignosis?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:25 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:22 pmjack...

Kyle...

please.... hold me closer

jack...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:07 pm @Kylemii

So why aren’t you voting for me?

i always vote at the very last minute cus i love the indescribable rush i get from almost being late every single time

and cus i haven't made up my mind yet, hence the questions

Is inh known for disappearing as a badman

these are the parts that I am bothered by:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 4:46 pm I guess I’ll go ahead and [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

I tend to give Epi some leeway for bs cases, head butting and general grumpiness/laziness but I expect something to come of it eventually.

I like Jimmy's rainbow (save Juliets, who I’m not sure why people are voting for) and the Epi case but I can’t shake a bad feeling about him. Driving me up the wall over here. Waiting for the shoe to drop. Just not sure what kinda shoe it is.

Linki: I’ll read those Nova beefs in a bit. Nova is in one ear out the other for me.

you guess you'll vote for epi, implying it's a thing you ended up doing instead of making an active choice to do so. you acknowledge that epi is known for similar behavior except that it's usually less so and more directed. you mention having a bad feeling about epi that you can't shake, but the bad feeling was never actually mentioned before this post, most of your posts about epi before this are soft circumstantial defenses of epi relating to meta or his relationship to jjj

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:22 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:15 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:13 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:11 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:10 pm I'm not 100% sure of either of you.

I'm 100% sure of Avito's alignment.

I was talking about a Day 2 read.

Epignosis is tied for the tally lead.

He doesn't like a lynch of sprityo, his tie buddy.

He doesn't like a lynch of juliets, the only other person in decent range.

Is he a mafioso?

I never give up no matter my alignment so I don’t know what to do with a player who does.

Game theory say scum going for pitty (or in this case confusion?) but that doesn’t bear out irl.

Either way, it’s annoying.

but then strike 2 here, in response to jjj pointing out that Epignosis is acting in a way which is specifically not self-protective or at least avoiding the path of least resistance, you claim that epi is giving up/allowing himself to be lynched or going for pity or whatever which seems like it's both avoiding the actual question jay asked as well as avoiding the ugly idea that "hey maybe the guy I voted for has some visible civ qualities"

this post prepares for Epi's lynch in the "he was acting bad so he deserved to be lynched, why should I be to blame?" way, instead of the "am i considering all angles to this?" way, and that's why i dislike it.

do you think a mafia jay goes through all this effort and comes to such a very specific conclusion just to lynch a single player

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 6:28 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 6:27 pm Jack, jay isnt on you because you didn't know epi was civ, he suspects you because you seem like you actually did. You approached his lynch and his behavior as if you already knew and were preparing for the correct conclusion. it seemed like you were trying to justify a vote for epignosis rather than actually believing that epignosis was the best recipient for a vote.

i don't like the way you've responded to Jay's case on you and somewhat related, I also don't like the way you've turned around on Mac and jay, these are things that don't seem like civ-things to me

Okay but why do they think that?

I don't know so I'm left with "I don't think they think that."

i think it's cus of ur posts

Jack, jay isnt on you because you didn't know epi was civ, he suspects you because you seem like you actually did. You approached his lynch and his behavior as if you already knew and were preparing for the correct conclusion. it seemed like you were trying to justify a vote for epignosis rather than actually believing that epignosis was the best recipient for a vote.

i don't like the way you've responded to Jay's case on you and somewhat related, I also don't like the way you've turned around on Mac and jay, these are things that don't seem like civ-things to me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 6:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:46 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:44 pm Jackofhearts2005 please ignore everyone else for a second and answer my more important and more interesting question instead of their relatively unimportant and boring ones

Did you ask me a question?

i thought i did? maybe not.

anyways plz pretend for me that you are the only one choosing who gets lynched today, you can't pick joe and you can't pick Mac, who would you choose?

Probably a quiet player.

I have some reason to believe DDL, LC, Juliets, Scotty and you are town. You've ruled out JJJ and Mac.

I'm left with a choice between Dom, INH, Marmot, Nova, PW, Wolbre.

I probably shoot Dom cause Jimmy wants to shoot INH. Maaaaaybe Wolbre since Scotty said there was maybe some teammate behavior there.

what makes you trust ddl and scotty?

so like the thing is...

who do you want lynched today, other than jay or mac

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:45 pm 1) No, he didn't. He proposed a strategy that ended with him having the most votes. It's right there. He counts the votes with 4 on Epi and 3 on DDL and says "I don't care about being lynched."

I have at times engaged in strategies as a civilian that caused me to end up with the most votes. Indeed, every civilian who has ever been lynched employed some kind of strategy which contributed to their destruction. That is not the same as throwing in the towel.

Nononono.

Epi didn't have a bad plan that resulted in his lynch. Epi's plan was to get lynched. He said, "Juliets, let's make sure I have 4 votes and DDL has 3. I don't care if I get lynched."

Your case is that I didn't really think Epi gave up when he said "I don't care if I get lynched."

That makes no sense at all.

Now tell me that's not your case, don't clarify anything and ask me for more reads.

Epi was trying to get lynched?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:46 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:44 pm Jackofhearts2005 please ignore everyone else for a second and answer my more important and more interesting question instead of their relatively unimportant and boring ones

Did you ask me a question?

i thought i did? maybe not.

anyways plz pretend for me that you are the only one choosing who gets lynched today, you can't pick joe and you can't pick Mac, who would you choose?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] please ignore everyone else for a second and answer my more important and more interesting question instead of their relatively unimportant and boring ones

MacHaus

the mac house

the.....

house of mac

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] if you and only you had a choice of who would be lynched today who would you pick, and don't start jay. promise me you will say someone other than jay, it's boring if you say jay.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] my current thoughts

juliets and long con are civs, Mac is also a civ, I am a civ.

jay is either a civ or extremely bad but I think probably civ

jack doesn't look good right now. some prodding here would be good

Dom, pennywise, and...inh are absent and should be vig killed as soon as feasible, I think.

The other 5 players off the top of my head I don't have reads on yet. I should probably fix that.

Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
novaselinenever
Scotty
wolbre04

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:03 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Tone. I always look for your tone.

am i shining?

Kyle you have been so under the radar here. Would you pleae do me a courtesy and give me some of your thoughts?

yeah

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Tone. I always look for your tone.

How eerie. You are talking to a parallel universe version of yourself.

Please explain.

You and Kyle are the same person.

explain?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Tone. I always look for your tone.

am i shining?

may i ask? is it can or may?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:03 pm Seeing as I don’t know if I can trust you right now, JJJ, I don’t feel inclined to switch to jack. I’m in my stubborn form. Probably engorged from all the Thai food I had last night but still

plz tell me about your feelings for jay

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 12:38 pm I also think sig was killed because he suspected wolbre. Couple that with JjJ’s catch of wolbre’s “townslip” makes me feel more sure

what is ur proposed relationship between jay and wolbre

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 3:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 3:49 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:46 am [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

It's 2018 bro get with the times.

I'm mad at myself for not seeing this when you saw it.

seeing what

Mac hated one of Jack's posts that I'm beefing with today well before I did.

i know but which post?

except majora's mask

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 11:41 am Ganondorf is in this game?

ganondorf is in every game

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:46 am [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

It's 2018 bro get with the times.

I'm mad at myself for not seeing this when you saw it.

seeing what

but i bet ice arrows would work too

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:26 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:24 am @JaggedJimmyJay how do I beat fireblight ganon?

I've only played Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time, so I don't know that one.

the answer was ice arrows

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:21 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:18 am i paused the fireblight ganon boss battle in order to read ur isos don't feel down

I appreciate it. In so doing you've helped to uncover the dark truth that Jackofhearts2005 is himself Ganondorf, the Great King of Evil, the Dark Lord, he who contains the wretched beast Ganon in the Dark World under the great pyramid.

spoilers :\

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] how do I beat fireblight ganon?

i dislike the interpretation of epi wanting a more ideal lynch than the ones that would have been easier to get as being equivalent to giving up

i paused the fireblight ganon boss battle in order to read ur isos don't feel down