The Syndicate

killing someone and then being the first one to point out that they must have been killed to frame you is a bad look

but then marmots decision to specify that day one lynch ties would result in a no lynch would seem really out of place

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:48 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:35 pm So... number of players is getting lower so I decided to finally bother speculating on why Nutella survived the lynch.

When did we decide the lynch wasn't stopped by Cristobal Colon? Or did I miss something?

Also Kyle or Eloh could be Everest. Though I guess they would have voiced a stronger tinfoil against Nutella at ths point if this was the case.
I assumed the lynch was stopped by the "ties on day 1 will result in a no lynch result" rule that Marmot told us about immediately following the lynch that we had never heard of before. Nutella is confirmed civ to me more because of the implication that it was a tie at all.

honestly I think this supports my theory that LC is space mountain and that my dreams are can tell the future, spending a ton of time designing a cool indie role only to have it die on the first lynch is a host's worst nightmare.
Ok so the prevailing theory is "host goof"

Well I'm willing to leave Nutella alive indefinitely then.

well.... kind of. Nutella predicted a tie in a moment which would be impossible unless she was the role she probably is.

the alternative is she's mafia and lied and got really lucky and just never got called out on it, or she's a role that survives the first attempt on her life (in this game are only civ roles and maybe indie roles) and just lied to us about the tie as a really weird and funny prank.

D!!!!! D and C!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:35 pm So... number of players is getting lower so I decided to finally bother speculating on why Nutella survived the lynch.

When did we decide the lynch wasn't stopped by Cristobal Colon? Or did I miss something?

Also Kyle or Eloh could be Everest. Though I guess they would have voiced a stronger tinfoil against Nutella at ths point if this was the case.

I assumed the lynch was stopped by the "ties on day 1 will result in a no lynch result" rule that Marmot told us about immediately following the lynch that we had never heard of before. Nutella is confirmed civ to me more because of the implication that it was a tie at all.

honestly I think this supports my theory that LC is space mountain and that my dreams are can tell the future, spending a ton of time designing a cool indie role only to have it die on the first lynch is a host's worst nightmare.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:14 am I think the sloon kill on this particular night should make you all reconsider lynching me. One of you said something like...eloh must be mafia "by process of elimination.". Are y'all really satisfied with that kind of lynch at this point? So...here we are... reasons for lynching eloh....
1) she is a busy gal and therefore does not participate intensely
2) her rainbow list on day one was odd
3) looking at the other players, she has to be bad by process of eliminatihon.

Seriously? You can't find anyone else with better reasons?

who is mafia?

RIP Sloonei, you were a good leader and I believe you were a significant part of what's brought us to this point in the game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:11 amHe was ?????

[mention]Marmot[/mention] any particular reason why this piece of information that we don't normally receive anyways was specifically omitted?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:50 am
Boomslang wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:48 pm Super late to the party due to a power outage, but thanks to LC for giving credit where credit is due for player salad :P Making a lasting mark on the community!
I gave it my highest honour: claiming I made it up.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:14 pm wouldn't it be great if an active final wolf skipped their kill so we'd think they were inactive
I totally thought the same thing. If I were bad, I might try it.

I think I've done it before too

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:45 am I'd probably go niju after Eloh.

but Sloonei I asked her if she was mafia and she said no

would she just LIE like that? who could do such a thing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:31 am We all agree to lynch elohcin, right?

yea

I don't mean to steal speedchuck's line, but if I die tonight I don't mind all that much. I think we're already on the fast track to victory.

If I die tonight I get to watch you punks win from purgatory. That's not so bad.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:11 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:06 am Hey, nijuukyugou, are you mafia? I like your avatar.
Thanks! :biggin: Your gif is much better and less epileptic than others' from the past on this site who shall not be named. I am not mafia. Just a lowly Blooper.

I don't like flashy gifs, I like non distracting gifs with transparencies to keep them from being boring rectangles.

Also, huge relief to hear that you're not mafia. Thank goodness.

The Great Wave is like definitely in the top ten of best paintings, and also bloopers are probably in my personally curated top ten list of best video game squids.

Hey, [mention]nijuukyugou[/mention], are you mafia? I like your avatar.

is THAT what a marmot is?????

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm Sloonei, do you think it's a mistake for me to put my LC suspicion on the back burner under the assumption that he's Space Mountain cus he wouldn't play the way he has as mafia and also cus of my Twin Peaks' style prophetic dream?
I think wilgy's ISO has evidence against Long Con being scum, so I don't object to removing him from the pool. I could see him as indie.

but mostly cus of the dream right?

Sloonei, do you think it's a mistake for me to put my LC suspicion on the back burner under the assumption that he's Space Mountain cus he wouldn't play the way he has as mafia and also cus of my Twin Peaks' style prophetic dream?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:09 pm that was your 777th post, and while that's cool as hell, the next cool number isn't for another 6192 posts
if i live through the night i might just get there

all you need is a keyboard and a dream

that was your 777th post, and while that's cool as hell, the next cool number isn't for another 6192 posts

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?
Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu
Do you have an argument against DDL?
Mostly gut feeling, but also cus lately it feels like he's putting more effort into casting suspicion on players who I think are town than anyone else.
which do you think is more likely: DDL is scum, or one of the inactives?

hmmmmm

i guess to me it depends on whether or not DDL's early skirmish with Jay paired with the emotional response was real or manufactured, since most of the sig and nijuukyugou stuff (lack of stuff) is non indicative. there's some other factors regarding sig since he did make some posts and he has been posted about...

I was joking earlier about tricking the mafia into not sending a kill in but like... It really might affect my decision should I live that long.

We have to win this game soon so I can stop posting at 666. I wanna cash in on that good luck.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?
Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu
Do you have an argument against DDL?

Mostly gut feeling, but also cus lately it feels like he's putting more effort into casting suspicion on players who I think are town than anyone else.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?

Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:

long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:23 pm maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that
Well that's not unsportsman like and I've done a similar thing myself once.

My role was a jester who turned into a serial killer if he didn't get lynched day 1. I got lynched day 1 and won the game but another player used a revive on me with made me "unwin" the game so now I had to be a serial killer. I proceeded to spend the whole game without killing anyone so people would think I was still a jester. It was fun because I acted as scummy as possible for a full game. And then I won it again.

Oh my god that's beautiful, that's a wonderful story, can you link me to that game?

maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that

wouldn't it be great if an active final wolf skipped their kill so we'd think they were inactive

yeah but like

If Eloh is mafia and dies leaving a solo mafia sig/nijuu, I don't think we'd see a night kill.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:58 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:25 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:18 pm I want to try an ISO or two. I can of course go to page one and click on a specific player's post. But on my phone, I cannot search said posts for anything specific. And with the number of posts people have it's going to be difficult. But I'm still going to try. I'll start by looking at wilgy (I know several of you have done so already) and seen what kind of connections I can find with others. Worth a shot, I guess. I have about an hour before I have to get ready to leave.
If you're using the chrome app you can tap the 3 dots in the upper right corner and select the "find in page" option, I've been using it a lot.
Yes! I am using the chrome app.... I will try this. Thank you so much!

no problemo

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:18 pm I want to try an ISO or two. I can of course go to page one and click on a specific player's post. But on my phone, I cannot search said posts for anything specific. And with the number of posts people have it's going to be difficult. But I'm still going to try. I'll start by looking at wilgy (I know several of you have done so already) and seen what kind of connections I can find with others. Worth a shot, I guess. I have about an hour before I have to get ready to leave.

If you're using the chrome app you can tap the 3 dots in the upper right corner and select the "find in page" option, I've been using it a lot.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:55 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:47 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:41 amIt's 3 AM and she calls me 'cause I'm still awake. Can you help me unravel my latest mistake? I don't love him, winter just wasn't my season. Yeah we walk through the doors, so accusing their eyes. Like they have any right at all to criticize. Hypocrites, you're all here for the very same reason.
I didn't read the whole post yet but you made some mistakes in the first paragraph so I fixed it a little.
Mafia is like an hourglass glued to the table.

and no one can find the 'no lynnnnch' option now

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:41 amIt's 3 AM and she calls me 'cause I'm still awake. Can you help me unravel my latest mistake? I don't love him, winter just wasn't my season. Yeah we walk through the doors, so accusing their eyes. Like they have any right at all to criticize. Hypocrites, you're all here for the very same reason.

I didn't read the whole post yet but you made some mistakes in the first paragraph so I fixed it a little.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:11 am Long Con and speedchuck are the only people on that wagon I don't firmly read as town, but I feel better about each of them given their votes today, at least in the immediate aftermath. Elohcin is my top suspect right now.
niju and sig (and wilgy) did not vote at all.

what was it about LC's vote that made you feel better about him?

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am If I'm lynched today Long Con is Sutter Buttes.

explain?

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:16 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:15 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:12 am Kylemii, speedchuck. And Quin is a big question mark as well, really. But speedchuck's an old suspicion, and dealing with Kyle today was sketchville as well.
Look dude, I'm just saying if Nutella or even Sloonei asked me the same questions you were asking, I probably would have given a straight answer.
I don't know what the difference really is, because Long Con would still know your answer.

The difference is the source. It changes the motivation behind asking the question.

If a family member asks you about your homeowners insurance policy you'd probably answer them. If your shady neighbor who has a garage full of gasoline and matches asks the same question you probably think twice.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:12 am Kylemii, speedchuck. And Quin is a big question mark as well, really. But speedchuck's an old suspicion, and dealing with Kyle today was sketchville as well.

Look dude, I'm just saying if Nutella or even Sloonei asked me the same questions you were asking, I probably would have given a straight answer.

Wilgy should have at least voted for Quin, as one of his supposed top suspects and also his only chance at living

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:24 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:07 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:05 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:04 am Wtf is going on
You tell us
I just got here dude. Why aren't we lynching Dunya, Sig, Quin or LC?
these two posts represent all of wilgy's thoughts on the situation. Total incredulousity and player salad.

This doesn't even make sense as a response to current thread events. At the time he posted this Quin had 3 votes compared to his 4.

Did Wilgy just leave???

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:08 amYour problem seems to be close-mindedness combined with prideful ignorance.

Also, probably true but it doesn't mean that I'm wrong.

[mention]Quin[/mention]
Do you suspect Wilgy or are you just voting him for self defense?

I'm interested in hearing Wilgy's response to the last few pages.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:08 amYour problem seems to be close-mindedness combined with prideful ignorance.

What you would do with the information if I told you what Quin said made me trust him more? What would you do with the information if I told you it made me trust him less?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:53 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:51 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:46 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:34 am

Does Quin's statement make you more or less suspicious of him?
LC, I've been pretty clear in stating that I don't trust you.
So that means you won't answer my question about Quin?
I'm not answering it because it's *your* question.

Sorry. That came off as more rude than I meant it to be. I only wanted it to be a little bit rude.

I'm not answering your question because it's the kind of question you, Long Con, would use to gain information for later personal use. There's no conceivable way a "yes" or a "no" to whether Quin's declaration made me trust him more would have an impact on your views on Quin.

The only thing to gain from a yes or a no is aid for role placement.

also I'm voting for wilgy

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:51 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:46 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:34 am

Does Quin's statement make you more or less suspicious of him?
LC, I've been pretty clear in stating that I don't trust you.
So that means you won't answer my question about Quin?

I'm not answering it because it's *your* question.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:34 am

Does Quin's statement make you more or less suspicious of him?

LC, I've been pretty clear in stating that I don't trust you.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:21 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:40 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:33 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:22 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:18 pm Kyle is no longer a suspect.
Why not?
I've got a civ role in mind for him.
Kyle, does this make any sense to you?
LC, what benefit this question provide?
Let's say you're Civ. Quin says he thinks he knows your role. Does this make you lean back and say "I'm glad Quin knows my role", or does it make you say "Huh? How the hell could he know my role? There's literally no way he could have figured it out from the thread talk!"

If it's the second one, then maybe something weird and interesting is afoot, you know?

I gave you this one, because I'm Canadian. Next time, if you wanna ask me a question, how about you treat me like an equal and answer mine first?

Specifying whether or not my role is knowable or even insinuating what contexts that information is obtainable from, if it even is obtainable, would help the mafia narrow down where the remaining civvie roles are positioned.

I'm not interested in taking part in that.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:18 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:14 am Maybe I'm crazy but I can't see LC as a civvie in this game. He has to be mafia or indie.

The indie part is what keeps me from voting for him.
If it helps, the indie role looks like it can only win with town, according to the OP. So the indie is basically town with an extra win condition.

Indy>=town.

But I could see LC as a civvie. 'Could' being the key word.

linki: you're kidding, right sloon?

Yeah, that's why indie would prevent me from voting for him.

Maybe it's fucking me up because in the lucid mafia dream I had LC was lynched and flipped Space Mountain and it just made perfect sense to me.

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