From the shadows.Epignosis wrote:You don't have to explain yourself, you little fucking demon rodent from hell.
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From the shadows.Epignosis wrote:You don't have to explain yourself, you little fucking demon rodent from hell.
Hey Golden, what did you think of OM?Golden wrote:Yeah, Epi, are you happy with that totally unfair and discriminatory result? Answer!
On a more serious note:Epignosis wrote:You don't have to explain yourself, you little fucking demon rodent from hell.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't mean that in a hostile way or that Epignosis doesn't know how to run a game, or something like that. Quite the contrary. But if the rules allow for a certain activity or behavior, I am happy to engage in it. I wasn't being an asshat (I don't think?) I wasn't pseudo-role outing or info-dropping. I realize the spirit of the game was to enforce the idea of quality over quantity in our posts, but I'm not a spirited mafia player. I'm a demon.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well, aside from that little part?Epignosis wrote:I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.![]()
That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :PGolden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.
Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.
Which means I'm gonna have to take extra care to specify the rules in games I run.
I don't mean that in a hostile way or that Epignosis doesn't know how to run a game, or something like that. Quite the contrary. But if the rules allow for a certain activity or behavior, I am happy to engage in it. I wasn't being an asshat (I don't think?) I wasn't pseudo-role outing or info-dropping. I realize the spirit of the game was to enforce the idea of quality over quantity in our posts, but I'm not a spirited mafia player. I'm a demon.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well, aside from that little part?Epignosis wrote:I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.![]()
That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :PGolden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.
Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.
Which means I'm gonna have to take extra care to specify the rules in games I run.
Well, aside from that little part?Epignosis wrote:I would change one thing: You get modkilled for posting over 4.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, if you were to create another game like this, is there anything you would change? I'm curious how it all panned out from your point of view.
Bitches be tryna make me count an' shit.
That's what I'm here for. Hosts ain't gonna learn if we don't bend the rules. :PGolden wrote:Epi - I'd definitely play again. I'd be more relaxed about how much content I had. And I'd support a modkill for anyone who posts more than 4 times, MM found the loophole in your rules far too quickly.
Also, if I could change one thing, it would be the number of players. It plays as fast as a speed game anyway, I think you could definitely do it with 20-25. I think you almost need the time with so few posts per day.
I tried to get me lynched on Day 1, but nobody agreed with it.Hedgeowl wrote:I was ticked at you TH, but with MP and Elo gone I thought it was a lost cause anyway.
Freakin Suicide Girl, TH! Lol.
So, MM was my last woman left?I would have prob tried to lynch you too.
Keep quiet you, I'll do the talking.Turnip Head wrote:I must atone for my transgressions.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It's unfortunate to see you go this way TH.
Anything you want to talk about while we wait for Epignosis?
You're doing it again today! Avoiding the lynch wagon!Hedgeowl wrote:I just voted for DREAM, which was not my intention today, but with 2 votes on me it was the safer choice. My choice would be MM or splint today based on their votes avoiding MP's lynch. (Yes, I fall into this category too, but if I were a baddie and voted as late as I did I would have voted MP, cause he was doomed already. I've done it before and so have many here.)
Splints, I don't understand your reasons for voting me this game. Could someone make a case at least?
And TH, what is up my man? Your posts are funny, but not building any cases. Get it the game.
Best first post ever!DREAM wrote:I meant to check inbut I got high
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These day/night cycles are moving much faster than I had anticipated. I've been reading and it definitely requires another read. I'll be looking at the voting and amongst other things.
Make your own noise, dude. You've got 4 posts, make them count!Turnip Head wrote:Tumbleweeds on parade
I can see this sentiment echoed, and just have to ask: why such a simple post, especially after already posting a simple post?Ricochet wrote:
Hi MovingPictures07. I suspected your lack of posting because you are a bigger post whore than I am, and I'm a pretty big one. Also, you explained your reason for it, so it is water under the proverbial bridge now.MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay game! I expected to have to more catch up on... but I guess I shouldn't have. Lol.
Golden, nice meta list. I appreciate the shout-out, but I absolutely hate that emotional outbursts have become my 'thing' lately. I have every intention to ensure that will no longer be the case. I also echo that I don't agree with MM's decision, even though I can understand the logic.
MM, why do you suspect me for not posting yet when I haven't been the only one? I've been busy trying to catch up on PhD stuff because I blew my whole weekend playing Economics (no regrets).
I really don't know what I will do with my vote and I anticipate this lynch will probably be very random.
With as precious as each post is (to some people), why did you take two posts to comment on my strategy post, even though the second of these posts was pretty much off-topic? In your first post, you disagreed with it (in an echo of Golden) while commenting that you understood the logic behind it. But then you made sure to comment on the "Rainbow Sockman" portion of it next. My belief is that you didn't even read my strategy to begin with, but that you were just agreeing with Golden because he is Golden. I suspect you for this.MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, MM, I lol'ed over "Rainbow Sock Mode".
I guess this is my 2nd post.
Lol that you apologize for asking questions, then immediately ask another one.MovingPictures07 wrote:Oops, duly noted, DH. I totally forgot that asking questions will lose a lot of purpose here, I didn't even think of that while I asked it.
ika, why do you think that? (you don't have to answer in a separate post, I suppose)
This game is insanely restrictive to me; I can't handle it. I'll just post this one more time I guess and will have to post all of my reads and make my final vote with my last post.
That's okay, I don't understand you either.Elohcin wrote:Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah. You sound like Chrlie Brown's teacher in this post.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Posting again because I feel the need to.
Four is not a limit persay. If I get lynched in a landslide today, nothing is to stop me from flipping to Rainbow Sock Mode and vomitting all over this thread.
And of course, if there is a landslide lynch on one player, that will give every other player another 5-10 posts they can make during the day without being lynched. In fact, I will volunteer myself for the lynch if anyone wants to try to get a little more volume out of their Day 1. This will let me post as much as I want, and let everyone else get some extra mileage out of their Day 1 before Day 2 starts.
Prelude vote set to Metalmarsh89.
Post #4.
I am not bad.thellama73 wrote:Same question to every player: are you bad?
I agree that Rico's posts are the least fruitful. I would be okay voting him or MM at this point. MM b/c his posts are off the wall. I'm having a hard time taking him seriously and that screams mafia to me.
I disagree that we cannot ask questions to one another or as one another to elaborate. We may just have to wait a little bit for the answers as the responding player will most likely not answer until he/she has other things to say and will just add their response to that post.
What does everyone else think of MM and Rico at this point?
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Just you wait. One of these days, I'll become a great big doodie.Epignosis wrote:Just one: Being a little turd who posts more than he is supposed to.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, does any player have a special power or ability that is not listed in the original post?
I'll let you work out who has that ability.
In an ideal world, it would work, but I understand it is not perfect.Hedgeowl wrote:This is my favorite thing I have read so far! So are you suggesting we all post at the same time, to avoid people waiting to post based on what other people say? (What I am doing right now apparently!)Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think this idea in general is a good one, and hopefully some people will come in and post similarly. It doesn't even have to be meta, it could be something as simple as a brief observation this game. I would not be surprised if some players are waiting to post after they see some other players post so they can have something to talk about, and I think that is unfair to the rest of the players to use that strategy. I could see the thread being steered by the late posters. I am getting my thoughts into the thread early, because I think it's bad to allow for late action to happen like that, because it is easily and often orchestrated by the baddies.Golden wrote:I really encourage those who haven't posted yet to start posting. I don't know what inspired me to do this - perhaps all the meta talk in economics mafia, perhaps it's just because with only 4 posts I have some psychotic need to feel like each one has a genuine purpose. But I thought I'd post a brief synopsis of how well I know each player and my perceptions of how loud or quiet they are when they have no posting restrictions. I'll grade my perception of their posting habits in 5 groups - low, low/moderate, moderate, moderate/high, and high. Also giving some idea of how well I feel I've got to grips with their style.
It looks like maybe you just mean we shouldn't all wait to post at the end and let baddies control the vote towards the end, but I imagine, there will be more votes without an explanation post in this game due to us all running out of posts.
I commended you! And I wasn't even the only one to use that word.Golden wrote:I will be flabbergasted if I end up getting railroaded on day one in two consecutive games for more or less exactly the same thing. STOP VOTING ME FOR BEING ME, PEOPLE! I thought this game might be a nice break from the last game where people said I was posting a lot but basically only writing fluff and not really engaging with people. In a game when we got four posts per game, I'm going to damn well make sure that every single one of them provides content, even if other people like to think that content doesn't matter.
I would have to agree, and would like to point the same thing out to Elohcin (go ahead and vote for me though).Golden wrote:I've never understood this argument 'x is providing a whole lot of content, but I don't personally find the content useful, therefore I think x is bad.' It doesn't make sense. If you don't even think the content is useful, how the heck, then, would I get any civilian cred for posting it????? It's a line that gets trailed out over and over, and civilians keep getting lynched based on it. But what would the baddie reason be for me to do it? It just doesn't make sense~
That's the strategy I often use.Golden wrote:A justification for how my posts are less useful than Rico's??? REALLY? Sockman said something in Economics about how he is afraid to get paranoid and make imaginary mafia teams in his head. I have no fear - in fact, keeping a clear 'theory of the game' in mind that fits with my suspicions is my MO. I'm much more likely to vote for someone if I think I can see who their team might be. Take my certainty on Aces in Roger Rabbit for example - how much more convinced was I when I had a theory of exactly how things were going down (a correct theory in that case, I might add).
Turnip Head wrote:Wow I was not expecting to come home to such a busy thread. TL;DR. Y'all post too much tbh.
Golden, you get one post to tell me who you think I should vote for!
I do think he is civilian, but I don't think he is waffling at all.Neverwhere wrote:For what its worth, I think Golden seems civvie. It all looks like the usual Golden Waffle to me![]()
I just had to speed read through an entire page of posts and I don't know most people here yet, so I think I'll need to give it another read through to get some ideas and get a grips wth people. So far LC is sticking out to me, but that may just be because he was mentioned a few times.
Also, as an aside my internet is completely on the fritz at the moment. It's not working 85% of the time. If I go really quiet or fail to vote it's not on purpose, I just can't access site. If this becomes a problem, I understand.
Whoa!Golden wrote:You know what Missing Person? Nope.
Listen to those who know me. You want to contribute to scum reads, your best place to start is to listen. I got lynched in Economics because newbies wanted me to give a read on every single player and others latched on to it. They claimed I was observing the game, but not being part of it. Newsflash: it's not the way I play. I'm not giving someone a town read or a mafia read when I have no opinion at all. I don't play these dumb games of gut reads, they are completely meaningless. You think I couldn't game that system if I was bad? Anyone could. I've never seen anyone reliably catch mafia that way.
Right now, I have no read on 90% of players. I've given you my read. I think Rico and Hedge could be teamies, and I think Hedge used her vote as a pre-emptive strike. I solve the game my way, no-one elses. And if you don't like that this makes me civ, I'll say again, go read day one of economics. I don't have anything to prove to you, you have something to prove to everyone else. If you aren't willing to listen to those who know me best, and if you aren't willing to do the time to see if this correlates with my civilian game when you don't know the first thing about me, then it is YOU who isn't trying to solve this thing. Do you want to take on board the references I've made? Want to fact check? Nah, you still just want to say I'm not contributing. Get real. I've given my genuine reads, which is more than what well over half of the people in this game have done.
Your count doesn't need to be right, because I'm POSTING THE NUMBER OF POSTS EVERY TIME and I posted big green x's in my last post, so whats all this with 'if my count is right'?
If I get lynched today on the back of people who don't me and think they are all that, well the worst that can happen is exactly what happened in economics. People learn to know me better. If it stops you reading me as scum next time, all the better. In the mean time, I'll say it again. Listen to those who know me. Because if you think that long list gives you any sense of my alignment one way or the other, you are only fooling yourself.
It's incredibly tiresome for me to have to fight the same argument about my play style every game. It's not hard. Go read economics mafia. If you aren't willing to do the time, don't claim it's my mafia game. End of story.
I'd honestly vote Missing Person, except I think Rico is the best bet. I just honestly can't be bothered with this kind of attitude, like I need to play someone else's game to be civ. Like I have something to prove to someone who doesn't know me on day one. What a daft concept.
Grrr... I have to vote before I go to bed. I won't be around at 3am for end of poll. I'd probably vote in self defence again, but obviously that won't be happening....
Ps TH, I would have said you should have self voted. Revenge and all of that.
I'll vote Missing Person. Consider it a warning vote. If I die, you will see I am civ and know for our future battles - I am not taking any prisoners. If someone wants to force me to play their way, I do not believe they have my best interests at heart.
I still think Rico/Hedge could be good bets, though, but Missing Person's idea that I should need to play his way to prove I'm civ is much more pingworthy for me.
Done.
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Do it! Vote for me! It will be fun!Roxy wrote:Metalnewtboy - you have 4 posts no more why would you (in what seemed) purposely post over that amount and give yourself a vote? Something about doing that twitches my nose and it makes me want to vote you.
So far I could vote for MM, LC or Ricochet.
I don't disagree about Long Con. I dunno about Ricochet, but the lack of content is the reason for that.thellama73 wrote:Stop voting for Golden, you guys. He is not bad. I want to vote for Rico, because I think his determined unhelpfulness is a double bluff (no baddie would play like that!) but I am not above a Golden save if necessary. Long Con is probably bad, so not a terrible choice there.
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Since you only get "4" posts, why would you not cram everything you can into one post? I think accusing players of doing so in this game won't hold any water.Missing Person wrote:You play your way, I play mine. I play off general tendencies until I pick up on patterns I see. The way that wall looked was just as filler to look productive.
So you'd rather lynch yourself then risk lynching Golden?Missing Person wrote:As far as reading another game just to see if this townclears you to me, not gonna. Simply put, I know myself, and I know I could look through games you have played to cherry pick a case against you. I'd rather not, I'll take the risk of getting lynched for not going through TS history rather than risk pushing a mislynch on a civ if you are.
Sorry. I get crazy ideas and do whatever I want with them.fingersplints wrote:I also don't find MM almost trying to go over the count helpful, but I don't know that it makes me suspicious. I just don't understand his motivation. It doesnt seem like it would be beneficial from a civvie or mafia perspective.
Well then you just post 4 times and lay your head down to sleep, old man.Golden wrote:I don't support or encourage MM's theory of the game. Sure, you may well be able to use that strategy, but it doesn't seem in the spirit of the game, it seems sort of like an exploit. (Although it is completely an MM thing to do to let himself die for those purposes.)
As far as I'm concerned, this game is completely vanilla, aside from the role with the obvious power. Perhaps Epignosis can elaborate on that?Golden wrote:More importantly, though, I have no proof that a mafia couldn't have some kind of lynch switch or lynch immunity, and I'm not inclined to trust 'racking up votes on myself' as a good strategy.
I think this idea in general is a good one, and hopefully some people will come in and post similarly. It doesn't even have to be meta, it could be something as simple as a brief observation this game. I would not be surprised if some players are waiting to post after they see some other players post so they can have something to talk about, and I think that is unfair to the rest of the players to use that strategy. I could see the thread being steered by the late posters. I am getting my thoughts into the thread early, because I think it's bad to allow for late action to happen like that, because it is easily and often orchestrated by the baddies.Golden wrote:I really encourage those who haven't posted yet to start posting. I don't know what inspired me to do this - perhaps all the meta talk in economics mafia, perhaps it's just because with only 4 posts I have some psychotic need to feel like each one has a genuine purpose. But I thought I'd post a brief synopsis of how well I know each player and my perceptions of how loud or quiet they are when they have no posting restrictions. I'll grade my perception of their posting habits in 5 groups - low, low/moderate, moderate, moderate/high, and high. Also giving some idea of how well I feel I've got to grips with their style.
It should be noted, that at this point, ika has already voted for Long Con.Golden wrote:ika - never played with Ika
Is this game going to be the first time you see my baddie game? Stay tuned for more information.Golden wrote:MetalMarsh89 - I've only played with MM a few times. I already feel I understand his style completely. It's also already fairly clear that MM is a strong candidate for most likely to blow his 4 post limit. HIGH poster! I haven't seen MMs baddie game yet, but from what others say I'm anticipating it will be hard to distinguish.
I am surprised that MovingPictures07 has not posted even once yet, but I see he has not posted all day in Economics Mafia either, so he may just be busy with schoolwork. Maybe he is just being transparent.Golden wrote:MovingPictures07 - played a reasonable amount with this MP. High poster. Looking forward to seeing if he can pull off an emotional outburst in four poststhink I have a pretty good understanding of this MPs style and a decent read on him.
Always gotta watch out for Ricochet. He has played 3 games here (and thus, 3 games ever), all of them as baddies, and won two of them (and I was on his team in both of those games). The one he didn't win was a game with a crazy role-switching setup anyway.Golden wrote:Ricochet - never played with Rico. Watched him a little in... Death Note? Impression was he is a moderate poster.
You read my mind.S~V~S wrote:Are spammers allowed to post more than 4 times a day?