The Syndicate

It played out more like the movie Saw than a game of mafia.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:57 pm Oh right

Well hopefully it wasnt too negative!

Oh no, it wasn't negative at all, but it was arguably a novel. <3

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:56 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:55 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:52 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:33 pm I'm glad tutuu isn't playing in this game or she'd have a fucking novel prepared about this.

Whaa

When i criticize stuff i do it on the spot (if i was playing i would have done it itt), i never criticize stuff post game or in graveyard chats

I think she meant you would have prepared it during the game and posted it post-game.

I wouldnt! :P

But, but, that's what you did in Bread Mafia.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:52 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:33 pm I'm glad tutuu isn't playing in this game or she'd have a fucking novel prepared about this.

Whaa

When i criticize stuff i do it on the spot (if i was playing i would have done it itt), i never criticize stuff post game or in graveyard chats

I think she meant you would have prepared it during the game and posted it post-game.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:47 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:44 pm Wow!!! I can't think of a better game to get evicted Night 1.

WTF G-Man! Also, kudos to you for trolling every single one of your players.

Now I regret killing you instead of leaving you alive to suffer

I mean, I was still scratching my head as to why the hell I died Night 1 up until game end, and kept checking in just to figure out who the mafia was that would have done that. That would never happen... in a normal mafia game.

Wow!!! I can't think of a better game to get evicted Night 1.

WTF G-Man! Also, kudos to you for trolling every single one of your players.

What I was doing was posting a werewolf in response to your case on me, which concludes that I'm wolf. Anyway, I appreciate the effort, although that amount at this point in the game does seem like busy work, as someone else pointed out. The thing I don't understand is why you didn't factor Alison's roleclaim into your reads, but you did for Epi. Can you talk about that one?


How did you conclude that I was most likely wolf?

Fancy new term for a thing that existed already.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:07 pm should’ve asked earlier but what is “ POE “

Process of Elimination.

Rather then specifically looking for the scummiest player among all players in the game to vote, it's a process to eliminate players from your POE pool that look townie and vote among those who are left. So POE just refers to that smaller subset of players.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:06 pm Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

As of that post he wasn’t. That was the immediate aftermath of Nanook’s flip. Why should Epignosis have been a confident civilian read at that moment?

He is one now after going into his token confirmation bias routine last night.

Yeah, I see you changed your mind later.

At this point, Epi had claimed, so yeah I would've expected that to be factored in.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:34 am two doctors + strong PRs (cop and whatever JJJ is) means there's a strongman somewhere.

if I get strongmanned I want you to remember #270 as my legacy.

Post 270 says you're ignoring mech shit. And this post is not doing that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:08 am I slept on it and my top suspect is Marmot. I’ll continue trying to squeeze out interactions later.

I hope you ask for consent before you start squeezing people

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:59 pm Well this is awkward-

I am in need of a replacement player, but I cannot see who voted 'maybe' in the sign-up thread. If any of you spectators were my maybes and/or you'd like to join the fray, please PM me pronto!

I fixed the issue, you should be able to see them now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:18 pm Okay then.

I don't really know what to do with this game at the moment. People I would call confident civilian reads:

Scirrus
Poison

Less confident, but civilian reads:

Long Con
fingersplints

That's where I stand for now. I will see if I can squeeze any kind of analytic meaning out of this thread during the night. I'd like to try blind interactions to see who fits together and who doesn't -- it's manageable with a small roster, but I also expect difficulty with lack of content.

Epi's not a confident civilian read right now? Is he still... nothing?

Apologies that I couldn't be around at EOD. I left a sort of legacy when I did because I had the most votes at the time, and didn't anticipate being able to be active very much after that point.

Catching up now.


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Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:53 pm Epi is a fine wagon. I rather protect marmot

I don't know why you want to protect me so badly, but I can live with this pocket. For now!!!


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Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:46 am chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

What reasonable conclusions are these? I just sheeped Chard bc I had no read on you and was bored.

Why is JJJ's vote on you scummier than mine?

Would you have suspected Nanook to have be more involved in the game by now?

You sheeped chard yes, but I liked the manner in which you did it tone-wise

I liked less the manner that JJJ did it. Considering the thoughts he'd put into players to that point, he'd not put much into my slot.

Per Nanook, maybe slightly, but I voted Epi over him because I did expect Epignosis to be more involved, but obviously I'm wrong on Nanook, and probably wrong on Epi


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Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:48 pm Does anyone have a reason that Epignosis should not be chopped today?

@Scirrus where are you at on Marmot at this point?

@Long Con what's up bruddaman

*exasperated shrug*

I'm glad we have open nights.

Ok so I don't find Marmots focus and questions towny at all and I have no idea why he townreads me

But I'm trying to think about the claim thing bc I missed upon my first readthrough. Do you find it unlikely that the vanilla claim could be some sort of gambit? Idk if that's something people do here. I've seen vanilla town fakeclaim PR's to get out of a yeet but would this be a good strategy the other way around? Like, say Marmot was mafia and claims later on that he's a PR and just fakeclaimed vanilla to avoid getting NK'd or something. Is that a tactic that you don't really see flying?

I'm mostly entertaining this bc I don't find most of his play towny

As evidenced by your read of me, I don't need to claim VT to avoid an NK.


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I think there were three wagons on Day 1, and JJJ was involved in all of them, to different extents. This is just an observation. I expect this from him at either alignment. Downside is, it does look like all three of us are town, so if JJJ's town too, he's got some re-reading to do.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:34 am I lost a close friend today and my head isn’t in a place for any mafia. I’ll try and come around if I feel up for it later but I likely won’t be posting until tomorrow.

I'm sorry to hear that splints. Take all the time you need.

Did Nanook really get CFD'd twice in one day?

I'll read up tomorrow and hopefully find answers to the questions I have.

Referencing JJJ's attitude as "The attitude" rather than "Your attitude" is not a direct address to another player, but a comment on the idea. Yes it looked like a response to JJJ's post, but to me, it looked like an umbrella statement of that idea that did not specifically mention JJJ, and thus, an attempt at shade JJJ as a byproduct.

Actually, I'm putting my vote there.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:41 pm A little WIFOM to indulge: Marmot claimed vanilla about 8 hours before EOD under only superficial pressure.

I believe him. If he’s mafia he’s already robbed himself of the ability to fake claim later, and for what benefit? For me to make this read as a result? That’s the kind of WIFOM I tend to find weak. I don’t think Marmot should be today’s chop.

Separate notes:

Epignosis shitting in my corn flakes indicates little about his alignment. We’ve gotten into Day 1 fights many times before in just about every alignment permutation: c/c, c/m, m/c (don’t believe we’ve ever been m/m). So at face value: whatever. From a more nuanced view: his suspicion of me is based on junk. If he holds onto it all day then murder him.

Between these two, I'd rather murder Nanook. They've said similar things in their discussion on the topic of "solving players vs solving mech stuff", but Nanook has done so in far fewer, less stance-taking words.

That said, looking at Epignosis's ISO, I'm a lot less excited about it now. He's made 6 posts, 5 of them are interactions with JJJ, and the other was fluff.

Enrique wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 pm The content is right there, making up 90% of the post where only one line references your misyeeting. Is my impression of you wrong?

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I was confused yes, but the votes came before that, not after. So you're not technically right, but I suppose that scenario could play out, and you'd be right.

I think I misread the intention in your post, and thought the reason you were avoiding voting for me was because of your statement that I'm a common mischop.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:25 pm Gaming mechanics IS playing mafia and the attitude that mechanics are somehow separate from the “real” game is continually baffling to me

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME who was this post directed at? It looked like shading to me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:46 am chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

What were their conclusions about you? Did they write those conclusions into posts?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:46 amJJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Eh? What did I say I was uncomfortable about? Are you referring to my opener thing about post count? It’s not uncomfortable to make 20 posts

Your takes on the votes on you confuse me. I don’t think any of the three of us explained much of anything; we just threw votes down because why not.

But chardonnay and Scirrus came to reasonable “conclusions” while I “leave something to be desired”. I’m going to need you to expand if you could.

I don’t really care that chardonnay was in my “nothings”. So what.

Why was chard in your nothings is my question, and why did you follow his vote?

You started the game off with the statement that 10 posts feels like too much. Maybe it was a joke, maybe it wasn't, you tell me. Then here you are taking on a leader-like role in the game. My problem is that I don't trust your intentions. I know I'm town (and I'm vanilla, so Idc if I'm chopped today either), but I don't read your posts and see an intention to figure out if I'm town or not.

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I don't have a strong reason to townread Grogu, but I will shield them for shielding me.

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Enrique wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:45 pm Civilians need to be careful with their... OUR wording too!

Gonna be real though, I hate to see Marmot go on Day 1 so often, and if his weird understanding of the early votes for him is the thing that cements the wagon around him, I would like to avoid that lynch. I don’t see it as a scum maneuver, just a casual confusion.

To elaborate based on my own gameplay: my first post yesterday was going to talk about how at my first superficial read I didn’t get what chardonnay was doing/saying. So I re-read his posts and I thought, yeah, this makes sense, it’s actually fine, and decided to drop it from my own post. Maybe I wouldn’t word it as his vote deriving from “reasonable conclusions” but I think this is what Marmot means... the thread char spins isn’t hard to follow. Marmot does not share that view about Jay.

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You and I haven't played together in a while, but I am not a common early misyeet like I used to be. Actually, I've played like a dozen games in my return to mafia last year, and I don't think I've been yeeted before Day 4 even once.

That said, I'd prefer if you opted to read me for my content instead of shielding me for being a common misyeet. There's no read involved there.

chard and Scirrus came to reasonable conclusions with their votes for me. I townread them.

Epignosis is trying to solve JJJ. I'll give him a townread for that. I want this to happen.

JJJ is posting in a manner he previously stated was uncomfortable. Not sure if that was a joke or a real feeling. He can surely explain. His vote for me is leaves a bit to be desired. Mild annoyance, he followed chardonnay's vote despite chard being listed in his "nothing" section.

Nanook shaded Jay for talking about game mechanics. No other reads. Big meh.


Nothing noteworthy from other players in my eyes as of yet (except for Grogu's TownWatch LLC, which I'm in the midst of applying for).

Oh word, I get the early wagon. Good stuff everyone.

Now let's try actually catching scum.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:27 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:21 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:41 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:32 ami wanna TR LC for not caring about town blocs and stuff

Do you town read LC for not caring about town blocs and stuff?

hmmm, yes, yes i do.

dont think epi is scummy btw, i forgot to mention that in my catch up quote post. Dont really have a read there yet.

how do you feel about marmot?

I have no compelling reason to call Marmot a civilian. I wouldn't say I have much reason to call him mafia either. If I reach enough I could gripe about:

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:23 pm I'm establishing my own towncore of players not in a traditional towncore.

It'd be a nice way to ingratiate oneself to a developing "core" without actually doing anything. I am not terribly compelled by that; it's a gripe Marmot can talk about. As I build (build? deconstruct? unbuild?) my process of elimination pool, he remains in it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:24 am I'm still nothing, eh Trebek?

Yes, as far as I care.

What's my gripe?

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:45 pm Marmot do you want to be part of ToWnWaTcH LLC?

Sounds scary, sign me up!!

I'm establishing my own towncore of players not in a traditional towncore.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:06 am Hello all, glad to see the game has started. I haven’t had a chance to read everything yet, but have done some quick skimming. A lot is how I remember, but some will take a little getting used to.

What is new to you right now and what hasn't changed?


@Enrique SR = scumread

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:50 am I'll make a huge impact with this post.

You've left a crater in my heart. A crater-sized impact

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:46 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:42 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:39 pm I must be going through changes, because somehow ten posts sounds like a lot right now.

Hi Mafia people. Hello. Let's do good and be real good and have a good time doing good.

I look forward to the day when you can make a single post each day, and still manage to convey more than nutella does in 300 posts.

ouch.

#300posterslivesmatter

Good luck making it to 300 posts this game!!!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:39 pm I must be going through changes, because somehow ten posts sounds like a lot right now.

Hi Mafia people. Hello. Let's do good and be real good and have a good time doing good.

I look forward to the day when you can make a single post each day, and still manage to convey more than nutella does in 300 posts.

This is a post that exists in a game of mafia. It takes up exactly one of the many posts that are yet to come. No more. No less.