The Syndicate

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:44 pm Like what Mafia looks at a wagon formed on them and thinks the best possible defense would be to claim they don't know what their role does and admit they haven't used an arguably strong ability yet?
I think we should have Ruri use their ability tonight and lynch someone else. I just find the other claims more suspicious than Ruri's since at least Ruri is claiming a reasonable role imo.
Of course Ruri can't actually say who they target because it's not like we can protect that player with a Random Doctor and they'd need to survive until day 5 to actually be able to use the Cop check.

Didn't Ruri claim before they had a wagon though?

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:08 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:07 pm Why does Ruri have the most votes?

I voted them because they claimed to be a cop giver but hasn't used their power which is ??????????
also that existing with 2 other town cops and a town lie detector feels unlikely

Oh that's right. I can sheep that.

[VOTE: Ruri] aubergine

Why does Ruri have the most votes?

Can someone just vig NAA and we call it good?

:3

I don't feel great about chopping any of the players with votes right now. Except for maybe Michelle.

Guess I'll go look at Scotty spew.

@Michelle target me tonight if you want.

Given that most roles are probably Modified, it's probably a Modified Jester if it exists.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:18 pm Also, I'm not dying today, so a push today doesn't help my wincon.

doesn't a jester win if yeeted?

What I would like to know is: does everyone else lose if a jester is yeeted?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:50 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:40 pm Also, @Marmot I don't like TWTBW reads because for me, I don't actually believe that I've done anything even remotely wolfy... Yeah, crazy anti-town at times, but no one is more anti-town than the town. I think TWTBW reads occur when people have a warped sense of what is alignment indicative.

I think that's the point of TWTBW, the actions of someone look so anti-town, that they probably are just a town player shooting themselves in the foot, which like you kinda say, happens all the time.

Also

Paopan choosing to lie-detect you claiming vanilla (when Gavial claimed there are no vanilla roles) and lie-detecting a dead player (falcon) do not strike me as coming from a mafiachat.


I didn't call you TWTBW though, why are you talking about you here?

Why can't those claims come from the mafia chat?
Please expand on that

Like alexa said, it shows an utter amount of uncoordination

Or possibly deviance.


But the simplest answer to me is that Paopan wasn't paying attention, not that mafia chose to have Paopan make these wild choices in lie-detecting statements to make it seem TWTBW.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:40 pm Also, @Marmot I don't like TWTBW reads because for me, I don't actually believe that I've done anything even remotely wolfy... Yeah, crazy anti-town at times, but no one is more anti-town than the town. I think TWTBW reads occur when people have a warped sense of what is alignment indicative.

I think that's the point of TWTBW, the actions of someone look so anti-town, that they probably are just a town player shooting themselves in the foot, which like you kinda say, happens all the time.

Also

Paopan choosing to lie-detect you claiming vanilla (when Gavial claimed there are no vanilla roles) and lie-detecting a dead player (falcon) do not strike me as coming from a mafiachat.


I didn't call you TWTBW though, why are you talking about you here?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:59 am im all for suspecting NAA, hes been borderline openwolfing the entire game, which is why i stated he was a jester claim

Did he claim he was jester first, or did you claim he was first?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:48 amWhen is Eod?

Should be in roughly 11 hours based on when the day started

10PM EDT

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:20 am I think Ruri and Marmot are same alignment. That's why I want a Ruri lynch. I'm fine also with Marmot cos he's most like have the same alignment as Ruri. Based on my reads.
Also, I think Sig is also a good kill cos I don't him very much linked onto this game. I feel Sig as someone who is very disconnected. Hence, I think he's a low-key scum.
I kinda suspect Michelle also. I think he's too "clean" to be a townie. Not a priority lynch but be wary of this slot if she's alive in the later stages of the game.

In any case. I will re-read tonight and I hope to give good info by tomorrow. I also want MM and Michelle to check me tonight to confirm my slot, and doctor on me also. So tomorrow. I can be 100% lock town and the info I will give is true, okay?

Despite my failures. I want to blame the interface cos I can't see who died and who is still alive, yet I want to say that there are some ignorance on my part.

Don't blame the interface, blame the host

But why do you think Ruri and I are connected? I looked through your iso, and you haven't talked about me until this mention of linking us.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:25 am Also notes from today: Marmot feels like fake-solving

It was late and I had trouble formulating thoughts, that could be part of it.

@Michelle can I get a read on Paopan

Oh Michelle is talking about Paopon too

Paopon is like... TWTBW

Do we have any ideas on what the "Lie" is in the OP?

Oooh gotcha. Thanks

Wasn't Wilgy killed?

Ruri is posting a lot more this game than I recall them posting in our last game together, where they were town. They had 19 posts by Day 3 (and none between then and their chop on Day 5). Here they have 35 so far.

But they seem mostly confused and has claimed recently. I don't know what their claim means, but I guess they don't either. If not for the claim, I'd slot them as null//mild scumlean, but I'll believe the claim for now.

Well that's a post.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:17 am NotAnAxehole - Jester
Ruri - Reliable Giver Cop (They claim to have no idea how their role works so we can only speculate as to what that means)
MafiaMenace - X-Shot Cop (red checked Scotty, has not claimed number of shots just that they are limited)
Jackofhearts2005 - Random Doctor (heals a random player each night)
LinearPoint - Loyal Bodydouble (Bodyguard only the things that are not kills are transferred to me from my target)
Michelle - Insane Cop (red checked Alexa [meaning town])
Marmot - Something that happens D5
Paopan - Lie Detector
sig - No Claim
Alexa - 1-shot Vigilante (Shot Falcon N1)
Son of Anarch - Oracle

Notably the setup says there are only 2 roles with no modifiers.
Currently SoA and Paopan claim no Modifiers when we have 1 role with no modifiers dead.
It's possible the lie is there is more than 2, but it's worth noting that is technically a counterclaim.

I'm willing to bet most people are claiming their real role, it's a matter of figuring out which roles aren't Town.

NotAnAxehole - Jester
Ruri - Reliable Giver Cop (They claim to have no idea how their role works so we can only speculate as to what that means)
MafiaMenace - X-Shot Cop (red checked Scotty, has not claimed number of shots just that they are limited)
Jackofhearts2005 - Random Doctor (heals a random player each night)
LinearPoint - Loyal Bodydouble (Bodyguard only the things that are not kills are transferred to me from my target)
Michelle - Insane Cop (red checked Alexa [meaning town])
Marmot - Something that happens D5
Paopan - Lie Detector
sig - No Claim
Alexa - 1-shot Vigilante (Shot Falcon N1)
Son of Anarch - Oracle

Notably the setup says there are only 2 roles with no modifiers.
Currently SoA and Paopan claim no Modifiers when we have 1 role with no modifiers dead.
It's possible the lie is there is more than 2, but it's worth noting that is technically a counterclaim.

I'm willing to bet most people are claiming their real role, it's a matter of figuring out which roles aren't Town.

There's supposedly a lie detector, so I'm looking for very specific wording.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:21 am Especially since they seem interested in finding scum and seem to think I'm 3rd party.

Are you third party?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:46 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:03 pm Nope, you're just a wolf NAA

This thunder dome with NAA seems…forced tbh

I don’t see him operating any differently today than yesterday

sticking a pin in this

Well, NAA and Michelle are probably not both Scotty's teammates

Did NAA claim or no? I'm confused.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:04 am I mean Sig and NAA are also dodging claiming, so I can't force you to.
But since you are here what are your thoughts on Michelle, Paopan, and Ruri right now?

I had an initial Day 1 scumread on Michelle, though I don't recall why atm, will look it up.

No thoughts on the others at this moment.

Thanks

Well, I guess for the second option, I will focus more on ISOs then just reading the thread front to back.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:04 am I mean Sig and NAA are also dodging claiming, so I can't force you to.
But since you are here what are your thoughts on Michelle, Paopan, and Ruri right now?

Not a clue, haven't read back yet.

My main goal was to put together a claim list and organize info. Has that been done yet?

Otherwise I'll focus on reading the thread and players.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:53 am Hello, it is I, a marmot

Hi Marmot, got a role? You're one of the only 3 people who haven't claimed anything.

I will resolve on Day 5, should I just wait or claim now?

Hello, it is I, a marmot

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:42 pm @sig @Marmot @Ruri

hello you might be in danger today
and if you're not going to post/engage and obvtown yourselves you should probably claim

I said I'd be on tonight (and I live in west coast so that means in like 3 hours from now)

Won't be on until later tonight, please don't end day before I can hop on

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Superkill

I think Mac's post was a joke about LC, not tmi

Brad = Lime Coke

I hard claim the entire mafia team.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:05 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:59 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:00 am Side note: I still think we keep an eye on SoA as the game progresses, the info he presented today, if it is false, is info that will make things harder for town if it's believed.

Can you write one of those big mech info posts the tryhards sometimes write for me please?

I'm about to head to work, but I'll do it Day 3 (or later today if we haven't hammered yet)

It would be useful to make it before hammer please

Wish I could, but we're one vote away and I work outside.

But, you know, if y'all want to chill the rest of this day phase or if someone else wants to put it together, go for it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:59 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:00 am Side note: I still think we keep an eye on SoA as the game progresses, the info he presented today, if it is false, is info that will make things harder for town if it's believed.

Can you write one of those big mech info posts the tryhards sometimes write for me please?

I'm about to head to work, but I'll do it Day 3 (or later today if we haven't hammered yet)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:02 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:43 pm 14 alive, 8 needed to hammer.
Keep in mind Doublevote, Loved, and Hated can exist.

I've never heard of Loved before.

I assume that's just the opposite of Hated?

What are either of these things?


Also, sig said something about vote manips earlier.

Side note: I still think we keep an eye on SoA as the game progresses, the info he presented today, if it is false, is info that will make things harder for town if it's believed.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:55 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:47 am Oh and btw, here's a readlist.

OH MY GOD SO TOWNY HOW DOES HE DO IT?
Lime Coke

Strong Townread
Alexa
Michelle
Scotty

Townleaning
LinearPoint
MafiaMenace
Axe
Marmot

Lol but its not your readlist.

Yeah, my reads will probably deviate from this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:46 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:03 pm Nope, you're just a wolf NAA

This thunder dome with NAA seems…forced tbh

I don’t see him operating any differently today than yesterday

sticking a pin in this

Oh that's right, I did have a slight wolfread on Michelle Day 1

Meh.

Oh and btw, here's a readlist.

OH MY GOD SO TOWNY HOW DOES HE DO IT?
Lime Coke

Strong Townread
Alexa
Michelle
Scotty

Townleaning
LinearPoint
MafiaMenace
Axe
Marmot

nOrMaL MaFiA

If I hosted a bastard game, I probably would include just one VT.

Thanks for waiting for me.

I skimmed for my name. I don't have any info to share at this moment, so we can yeet Scotty to the moon whenever.